RE: [expert] Back to Red Hat - ?

1999-11-29 Thread Vanco, Donald 



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 I've only used Mandrake.  How is Red Hat different from Mandrake?
Based solely on my experience:
RedHat 6.1 - lots of install anomalies (partitioning issues, wants you to
configure X before a single package is install {really nice if it should
hang!})
RedHat 6.1 - misses lots of packages on install (grep, cpio, tar, bzip2,
find, rpm - to name a few off a very long list)
RedHat 6.1 - SMP kernel works (MDK 6.1 did not)
RedHat 6.1 - PCMCIA works (MDK 6.1 did not)
MDK 6.1 - KDE (RH 6.1 Gnome - ugh)
Both start way too many daemons (every box I own is not, in fact, a mail
server) and have fairly bloated installs (lots of mail, chat, and news
clients)
Getting PCMCIA to work (with more recent code) and compiling my own SMP
kernel were cake

Other than that they are pretty much the same IMHO.  I got tired of RH
forcing me to piece over every install that I now run Mandrake with a bunch
of stuff from the RH 6.1 PowerTools CD.
YMMV
Don

[expert] Back to Red Hat

1999-11-27 Thread Henrik Edlund 

Looks like I am heading back to Red Hat Linux. I am getting tired
of Mandrake not releasing security updates. Sigh. Mandrake was
good, but they seem to have lost the edge now...

-- 
Henrik Edlund
http://www.edlund.org/

  "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Naturally they became heroes."
  Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator

Re: [expert] Back to Red Hat - ?

1999-11-27 Thread Sevatio Octavio 

I've only used Mandrake.  How is Red Hat different from Mandrake?

Seve

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Subject: [expert] Back to Red Hat


Looks like I am heading back to Red Hat Linux. I am getting tired
of Mandrake not releasing security updates. Sigh. Mandrake was
good, but they seem to have lost the edge now...

-- 
Henrik Edlund
http://www.edlund.org/

  "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Naturally they became heroes."
  Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator

Re: [expert] Back to Red Hat - ?

1999-11-27 Thread Civileme 

Sevatio Octavio wrote:

 I've only used Mandrake.  How is Red Hat different from Mandrake?

 Seve

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 From: Henrik Edlund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Saturday, November 27, 1999 7:08 AM
 Subject: [expert] Back to Red Hat

 Looks like I am heading back to Red Hat Linux. I am getting tired
 of Mandrake not releasing security updates. Sigh. Mandrake was
 good, but they seem to have lost the edge now...
 
 --
 Henrik Edlund
 http://www.edlund.org/
 
   "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 Naturally they became heroes."
   Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator
 
 

1.  Red Hat is compiled for 386 on up
2.  The directories are all in the same places, and some of the code is
common
3.  A lot of people get very concerned when RedHat has a security
release and Mandrake doesn't, out of the mistaken impression that
Mandrake=RedHat plus some stuff, which ceased to be true with 5.3.
4.  RedHat is Gnome-Centric though it does have KDE as a bolt-on
5.  The "Borders" option in screen setup is set by default to flip to
other screens when your mouse arrow hits the edge.
6.  RedHat's tech support is the least hospitable experience I can
remember in recent years.  Caldera was better, and they ignored me :-}
7.  RedHat is much better capitalized, but then so is Microsoft.
8.  Both packages come with great bloat and cannot be said to be
attractive to general public users.  A growing discontent at the number
of daemons these distros launch by default is resulting in further
splintering of distributions.  There are several now that offer
downloadable "difference" packages to RedHat.  None offer "difference"
packages for Mandrake.
9.  RedHat distributions with the "RedHat" label cost more than any
Mandrake dsistribution I can buy.
10.  Mandrake does seem a little more dilatory with the security
releases, but then they do have to check to see if their system has the
same vulnerability, and then prepare an update, which may be an entirely
different coding job.
11.  RedHat is the favored target of exploit hunters(after Microsoft),
since it is perceived to be the "standard" or the "biggest" by most of
them, therefore most exploits are discovered first on RedHat.

I am sure I have left out more than I have covered, but that should be a
beginning of an answer to your question.

Civileme