[expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-09 Thread Anne Wilson
Over a long period I have seen commands given for finding 
informationabout a system, for instance this morning there was cat 
/proc/bus/usb/devices.  It seems to me that those of us with aging 
grey cells, and maybe others as well, would be glad of a list of 
these really useful commands.

Could someone either put a list on the TWiki site, or post a list here 
that I could add?  Thanks

Anne
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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-09 Thread KevinO
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Anne Wilson wrote:
> Over a long period I have seen commands given for finding
> informationabout a system, for instance this morning there was cat
> /proc/bus/usb/devices.  It seems to me that those of us with aging
> grey cells, and maybe others as well, would be glad of a list of
> these really useful commands.
>
> Could someone either put a list on the TWiki site, or post a list here
> that I could add?  Thanks
>
> Anne
>
Where would you start? The command line is where it's at. It is where
everything is.

There have been whole books written about the proc filesystem, learning Bash,
books on common filters like sed, grep, awk etc..

There is so much that you can do, where would you start.

I have used single command lines to download and parse an XML file, and
generate a w3c compliant XHTML file and stick it on a webserver. On one line,
without any external temp file storage or data files. (It is a long line,
output is here) http://www.kevino.org/slashdot.html


You find things out by looking at how the system is running, by looking at the
parts of the operating system.

Just listing where things(files) are kept would be daunting.

Open a terminal window, or go to a virtual console, and at the prompt type a
 key:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:50am-Intel_2011>>
Display all 3401 possibilities? (y or n)

That's 3400 commands, not combinations of commands, or options, etc..

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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-09 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 06:53, KevinO wrote:
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> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Over a long period I have seen commands given for finding
> > informationabout a system, for instance this morning there was cat
> > /proc/bus/usb/devices.  It seems to me that those of us with aging
> > grey cells, and maybe others as well, would be glad of a list of
> > these really useful commands.
 it would like this if you want to see all the commands available to a
user login a text console and, "hit tab".


> >
> > Could someone either put a list on the TWiki site, or post a list here
> > that I could add?  Thanks
> >
> > Anne
> >
> Where would you start? The command line is where it's at. It is where
> everything is.
> 
> There have been whole books written about the proc filesystem, learning Bash,
> books on common filters like sed, grep, awk etc..
> 
> There is so much that you can do, where would you start.
> 
> I have used single command lines to download and parse an XML file, and
> generate a w3c compliant XHTML file and stick it on a webserver. On one line,
> without any external temp file storage or data files. (It is a long line,
> output is here) http://www.kevino.org/slashdot.html
> 
> 
> You find things out by looking at how the system is running, by looking at the
> parts of the operating system.
> 
> Just listing where things(files) are kept would be daunting.
> 
> Open a terminal window, or go to a virtual console, and at the prompt type a
>  key:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:50am-Intel_2011>>
> Display all 3401 possibilities? (y or n)
> 
> That's 3400 commands, not combinations of commands, or options, etc..
> 
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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 11:53 am, KevinO wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Over a long period I have seen commands given for finding
> > informationabout a system, for instance this morning there was
> > cat /proc/bus/usb/devices.  It seems to me that those of us with
> > aging grey cells, and maybe others as well, would be glad of a
> > list of these really useful commands.
> >
> > Could someone either put a list on the TWiki site, or post a list
> > here that I could add?  Thanks
> >
> > Anne
>
> Where would you start? The command line is where it's at. It is
> where everything is.
>

No - I think you misunderstand me.  We already have links to places 
for people to learn bash.  What I was thinking was a digest of 
troubleshooting commands, the kind that show you what you have 
connected on your system, what processes are running, and so on.

It's not intended to be a substitute for learning the wider issues, 
but to help in the stress of a troubleshooting process.

>
> I have used single command lines to download and parse an XML file,
> and generate a w3c compliant XHTML file and stick it on a
> webserver. On one line, without any external temp file storage or
> data files. (It is a long line, output is here)
> http://www.kevino.org/slashdot.html
>
As a side-issue, I have to get close to the page and squint to read 
that page, Kevin.  For those with less than perfect vision, dark blue 
text on black is not easy.
>
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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 12:08 pm, ed tharp wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 06:53, KevinO wrote:
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> > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > Over a long period I have seen commands given for finding
> > > informationabout a system, for instance this morning there was
> > > cat /proc/bus/usb/devices.  It seems to me that those of us
> > > with aging grey cells, and maybe others as well, would be glad
> > > of a list of these really useful commands.
>
>  it would like this if you want to see all the commands available
> to a user login a text console and, "hit tab".
>
Ed, overkill is as bad as no info at all when you're in a stress 
situation - and troubleshooting soon gets that way   I wasn't 
meaning *all* commands available, just the ones that are often given 
as help in troubleshooting.

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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-09 Thread KevinO
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Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 11:53 am, KevinO wrote:
>
>>Anne Wilson wrote:
> As a side-issue, I have to get close to the page and squint to read
> that page, Kevin.  For those with less than perfect vision, dark blue
> text on black is not easy.
>
Sorry about that. The color has been changed. Thanks for the comment.

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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-09 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 03:06, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Over a long period I have seen commands given for finding 
> informationabout a system, for instance this morning there was cat 
> /proc/bus/usb/devices.  It seems to me that those of us with aging 
> grey cells, and maybe others as well, would be glad of a list of 
> these really useful commands.
> 
> Could someone either put a list on the TWiki site, or post a list here 
> that I could add?  Thanks
> 
> Anne

Anne it's been there for a while!... See my page

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/QuikTips

or the Tips and Tricks from the experts group page.

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/TipsAndTricks

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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 3:47 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 03:06, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Over a long period I have seen commands given for finding
> > informationabout a system, for instance this morning there was
> > cat /proc/bus/usb/devices.  It seems to me that those of us with
> > aging grey cells, and maybe others as well, would be glad of a
> > list of these really useful commands.
> >
> > Could someone either put a list on the TWiki site, or post a list
> > here that I could add?  Thanks
> >
> > Anne
>
> Anne it's been there for a while!... See my page
>
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/QuikTips
>
> or the Tips and Tricks from the experts group page.
>
> http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/TipsAndTricks
>
> James

OK - I missed that, so perhaps I need to look at how we can make it 
more visible when you're looking for something.  Since we are trying 
to reorganise the index at the moment it is a good time to consider 
this.  There's so much useful info on the site now that making it 
more accessible is increasingly important.  If you haven't looked at 
what's going on, start at the NewIndex page.  You will see links to 
discussion on developing the community and the proposed new index.  
The more input we get and the better the end result will be.

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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 9:54 pm, KevinO wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 11:53 am, KevinO wrote:
> >>Anne Wilson wrote:
> >
> > As a side-issue, I have to get close to the page and squint to
> > read that page, Kevin.  For those with less than perfect vision,
> > dark blue text on black is not easy.
>
> Sorry about that. The color has been changed. Thanks for the
> comment.

I didn't want to sound over-critical, but if no-one tells you there's 
a problem you wouldn't know.  I'll pop back and have another look.  
Thanks for being cooperative.

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Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 05:32 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

> OK - I missed that, so perhaps I need to look at how we can make it
> more visible when you're looking for something.  Since we are trying
> to reorganise the index at the moment it is a good time to consider
> this.  There's so much useful info on the site now that making it
> more accessible is increasingly important.  If you haven't looked at
> what's going on, start at the NewIndex page.  You will see links to
> discussion on developing the community and the proposed new index.
> The more input we get and the better the end result will be.
>
> Anne

I've not been to the twiki page in a while  but if its not 
there, how about something like:

search engine
Top 10 subjects
Top 10 questions
FAQ

something like that? Of course, with the brain power on this list all of the 
above and more have probably already been listed. 

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OT- was Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-11 Thread KevinO
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Anne Wilson wrote:
> I didn't want to sound over-critical, but if no-one tells you there's
> a problem you wouldn't know.  I'll pop back and have another look.
> Thanks for being cooperative.
>

Thank you for the constructive advice!

The site is badly in need of attention. Sections to finish, more links to add,
etc...


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Re: WARNING(virus check bypassed): Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-09 Thread David Boles
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 04:54 pm, KevinO wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 11:53 am, KevinO wrote:
> >>Anne Wilson wrote:
> >
> > As a side-issue, I have to get close to the page and squint to read
> > that page, Kevin.  For those with less than perfect vision, dark blue
> > text on black is not easy.
>
> Sorry about that. The color has been changed. Thanks for the comment.

Is this the "latest" virus warning" for the list?
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Not so funny side of spam [was Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring]

2003-09-10 Thread David Rankin
Not so funny side of spam:

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> On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 9:54 pm, KevinO wrote:
> > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 11:53 am, KevinO wrote:
> > >>Anne Wilson wrote:
> > >
> > > As a side-issue, I have to get close to the page and squint to
> > > read that page, Kevin.  For those with less than perfect vision,
> > > dark blue text on black is not easy.
> >
> > Sorry about that. The color has been changed. Thanks for the
> > comment.
>
> I didn't want to sound over-critical, but if no-one tells you there's
> a problem you wouldn't know.  I'll pop back and have another look.
> Thanks for being cooperative.
>
> Anne
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>
>
>






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Re: Not so funny side of spam [was Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring]

2003-09-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 4:59 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> Not so funny side of spam:
>
> Anne started ending up in my deleted items box after filtering
> tiscali.co.uk what also has the reputation of a spam site. Don't
> worry Anne, we will pull you out of the deleted items
>
I'm not too surprised.  I'm not aware that much spam starts from 
tiscali.co.uk, but it seems to me that they make little effort to 
filter it out.

Anne
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