Re: [expert] Devfsd
On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 03:26 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > I am not a big fan of devfs, and had problems with it under Mandrake > 9.0 and 9.1. I see that the upgrade of 9.2 gave me devfsd and I now > have mixed devfs and normal entries on my system. > > Is it possible to uninstall the devfsd package and still run > Mandrake? Or have the problems with devfs and supermount been fixed > with USB connections? My problems were around a digital camera and my > Handspring Visor. > > Rob What about simply changing your boot stanza in /etc/lilo.conf from devfs=mount to devfs=nomount? Arn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Devfsd
I am not a big fan of devfs, and had problems with it under Mandrake 9.0 and 9.1. I see that the upgrade of 9.2 gave me devfsd and I now have mixed devfs and normal entries on my system. Is it possible to uninstall the devfsd package and still run Mandrake? Or have the problems with devfs and supermount been fixed with USB connections? My problems were around a digital camera and my Handspring Visor. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Devfsd
I am not a big fan of devfs, and had problems with it under Mandrake 9.0 and 9.1. I see that the upgrade of 9.2 gave me devfsd and I now have mixed devfs and normal entries on my system. Is it possible to uninstall the devfsd package and still run Mandrake? Or have the problems with devfs and supermount been fixed with USB connections? My problems were around a digital camera and my Handspring Visor. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Devfsd
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 7:07 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Monday 22 September 2003 09:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Whilst troubleshooting my problems with GnomeMeeting, (having > > been told by the GM list that devfsd was probably the cause of my > > trouble) I came across this: > > > > > > The following addition needed to be added to '/etc/fstab': > > > > none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 > > > > This line causes usbdevfs to dump the condition of USB into > > /proc/bus/usb, as it changes, to keep it up to date. > > > > The following deletion had to be made in '/etc/fstab': > > > > none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 > > > > This line needed to be removed because devfsd controls > > '/dev/pts', too, > > and there had been reports to the author that the two running > > together caused problems. So, use one or the other, but not both. > > I find it interesting that the Mandrake install would not have > > dealt with this considering this is a condition that was there > > from the very beginning. > > > > > > Would anyone care to comment on that? > > > > Anne > > Anne, I'm just curious - have you tried it yet, to see if it makes > a diff? No - I've mulled it over. I just wondered if anyone knows enough about devfs to tell me if it would be disastrous. Otherwise, I might try it tomorrow. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Devfsd
On Monday 22 September 2003 09:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > Whilst troubleshooting my problems with GnomeMeeting, (having been > told by the GM list that devfsd was probably the cause of my trouble) > I came across this: > > > The following addition needed to be added to '/etc/fstab': > > none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 > > This line causes usbdevfs to dump the condition of USB into > /proc/bus/usb, as it changes, to keep it up to date. > > The following deletion had to be made in '/etc/fstab': > > none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 > > This line needed to be removed because devfsd controls '/dev/pts', > too, > and there had been reports to the author that the two running together > caused problems. So, use one or the other, but not both. I find it > interesting that the Mandrake install would not have dealt with this > considering this is a condition that was there from the very > beginning. > > > Would anyone care to comment on that? > > Anne Anne, I'm just curious - have you tried it yet, to see if it makes a diff? -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Devfsd
Whilst troubleshooting my problems with GnomeMeeting, (having been told by the GM list that devfsd was probably the cause of my trouble) I came across this: The following addition needed to be added to '/etc/fstab': none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 This line causes usbdevfs to dump the condition of USB into /proc/bus/usb, as it changes, to keep it up to date. The following deletion had to be made in '/etc/fstab': none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 This line needed to be removed because devfsd controls '/dev/pts', too, and there had been reports to the author that the two running together caused problems. So, use one or the other, but not both. I find it interesting that the Mandrake install would not have dealt with this considering this is a condition that was there from the very beginning. Would anyone care to comment on that? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Devfsd and related issues
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 1:26 pm, Mike Rambo wrote: > You're right about devfs - at least in my experience anyway. When I > first tried using my Handspring with mdk 8.1 I found then that the > only way to get it to work reliably (or sometimes at all) was to > disable devfs. I have no idea why Mandrake has insisted on staying > with it all this time when it's as broken as it is. From what I see > on the linux kernel list it would appear devfs will be going away > anyway. The original maintainer has went away and nobody else seems > to have done much with it either aside from cutting away major > parts of it. > > That aside, if you check the archives from the 8.1/8.2 time frame > there should be some threads where this exact thing was discussed > and a few solutions found. Thanks for all the info. I'll pass that to my friend with the Visor. He has promised to do me a report for the TWiki if he gets it sorted Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Devfsd and related issues
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 14:50, Anne Wilson wrote: > I have been struggling with GnomeMeeting for some time now, getting > all the help I can from this list, then from the GM mailing list. > The end of that conversation was that devsd was the likely problem, > and I would need to talk to someone who really understands Mandrake's > implementation of it. > > A friend of mine has been having a similar fight with his Handspring > Visor. Again, he has asked all he can for help. It appears that > this is also a devfsd problem. Apparently some aspects of using > Gnome-pilot on 9.1 were not properly implemented, as it was 'very You're right about devfs - at least in my experience anyway. When I first tried using my Handspring with mdk 8.1 I found then that the only way to get it to work reliably (or sometimes at all) was to disable devfs. I have no idea why Mandrake has insisted on staying with it all this time when it's as broken as it is. From what I see on the linux kernel list it would appear devfs will be going away anyway. The original maintainer has went away and nobody else seems to have done much with it either aside from cutting away major parts of it. That aside, if you check the archives from the 8.1/8.2 time frame there should be some threads where this exact thing was discussed and a few solutions found. I did finally get both of those versions to sync my Handspring by disabling devfs and a couple of other (forgotten) things. I don't recall that Gnome-pilot was involved but I could be wrong on that too. I did make one half hearted attempt at getting the sync working with 9.0 one time but gave up when it took more than a few minutes because I don't really need the sync anyway. On the whole my impression is that usb stuff, palm type device syncing at least, is still pretty immature with Linux. I've never seen it work out of the box - at least on Mandrake. I've never tried it with the k12os/RH systems I maintain (most cuz they're all servers) so I can't way whether it's Linux in general or something specific to Mandrake. I just found this in my email history. Maybe it'll help... Add to or fix in lilo.conf... append=" devfs=nomount" ...run lilo and reboot. The config on my two 8.1 systems is like this: *add to /etc/modules* usbcore usb-uhci usbserial visor (depending on your system you may need usb-ohci instead of usb-uhci) *in /etc/sysconfig/usb* VISOR=yes My /etc/modules.conf also has... alias usb-interface0 usb-uhci ...although I think mdk8.1 set that up at install time - I don't remember doing it. Last I created a symlink from /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 to /dev/visor and set up jpilot to use it. After all that just start jpilot, hit the hot sync button on the visor USB cradle, and click the sync button in jpilot. FWIW, just in the way of information, the one 8.1 system we've gotten devfs to work on uses usb-ohci. On that system, with devfs enabled, if you watch the /dev/usb directory carefully you'll see the ttyUSBx entries pop up briefly when you hit the hot sync botton on the USB cradle. One of my co-workers uses that system. Somehow he happened to get everything to work right one time using the gnome pilot conduit settings in the gnome control center and it's been fine since. Note that the gnome control center must be used to set up the gnome pilot conduits although once they're set up they seem to work fine in KDE thereafter. He sync's his visor everyday to jpilot. That said though, it has been much easier for me to just sort of hard code this stuff as I've illustrated above instead of trying to get the devfs stuff to work. Maybe Richard Gooch (lkml) will someday get devfs working smoothly and it'll be the best thing since sliced bread but it appears not ready for prime time right now IMHO. -- Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: In order to control energy costs the light at the end of the tunnel has been shut off until further notice... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Devfsd and related issues
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 12:04, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Tuesday 16 September 2003 02:50 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > To hear 'Too bad for you then..' coming from a > > Mandrake employee is just the pits. > > > > Anne > > I'd have to agree there Anne - unprofessional at best. :-( Yep, At a little more common than one would want. Funny thing. It seems to come not from MDK's own, but rather from the "contributors" A Hell's Angel once told me that the way to tell the difference between the club members and the wanna be's was to look at the level of arrogance. The real club members had nothing to prove. (Have your bike break down on the side of the road. The members help the wanna be's laugh.) Sorry part is ... it reflects on the wrong people. James OK. Now down to brass tacks. What version do you have. What version is in the cooker and have you tried rpm --rebuild on your 9.1 box to create a 9.1 version. source from the gnome site + checkinstall might be the answer here. James -- Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Devfsd and related issues
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 02:50 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > To hear 'Too bad for you then..' coming from a > Mandrake employee is just the pits. > > Anne I'd have to agree there Anne - unprofessional at best. :-( -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Devfsd and related issues
I have been struggling with GnomeMeeting for some time now, getting all the help I can from this list, then from the GM mailing list. The end of that conversation was that devsd was the likely problem, and I would need to talk to someone who really understands Mandrake's implementation of it. A friend of mine has been having a similar fight with his Handspring Visor. Again, he has asked all he can for help. It appears that this is also a devfsd problem. Apparently some aspects of using Gnome-pilot on 9.1 were not properly implemented, as it was 'very difficult'. It seems that they believe that 9.2 rc2 is the answer. When my friend said that he could not consider moving his working machine to 9.2 rc2, the reply was 'Too bad for you then..' I have been very disheartened at my own struggles. The GM posters were very helpful about all their own settings, which I have faithfully matched. It seems likely, then, that they are right, and it is a Mandrake-specific problem. There is one person who answered me that is running 9.1, but he was unable to tell me what might be affecting my system to make it unable to function correctly with the recommended settings. To hear 'Too bad for you then..' coming from a Mandrake employee is just the pits. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] devfsd dropped dead
Tried re-installing the rpm and the update but no dice. When I type "service devfsd start" I get an error about the ioctl number for /dev/devfsd not being right. Ideas? Is this a waste of time? Seems to work fine without it. Thanks, Jim C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] devfsd and cdrom
be prepared for this with 8.1. other msgs on this subject suggests using devfs is for adding a new feature for the kde desktop. not nice for non-kde users. bill On Thursday 27 September 2001 02:24, you wrote: > My /dev/cdrom had changed (after update to 8.1-RC1) to > /dev/cdrom0 -> cdroms/cdrom0 > It worked again when I edited fstab > accordingly. > > -- Bjarne > > Dave Kufta wrote: > > On Tuesday 25 September 2001 06:36 pm, J. C. Woods wrote: > > > Dave Kufta wrote: > > > > I am having difficulty mounting my cdrom, cdrom is creative > > > > CDRW-6424, when I attempt to mount the cdrom I get the following > > > > argument: > > > > > > > > Today is Tue Sep 25 at 17:50:21. Computer is serving > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [/etc]# mount /dev/cdrom > > > > mount: /dev/cdrom: unknown device Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] devfsd and cdrom
My /dev/cdrom had changed (after update to 8.1-RC1) to /dev/cdrom0 -> cdroms/cdrom0 It worked again when I edited fstab accordingly. -- Bjarne Dave Kufta wrote: > > On Tuesday 25 September 2001 06:36 pm, J. C. Woods wrote: > > Dave Kufta wrote: > > > I am having difficulty mounting my cdrom, cdrom is creative CDRW-6424, > > > when I attempt to mount the cdrom I get the following argument: > > > > > > Today is Tue Sep 25 at 17:50:21. Computer is serving > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [/etc]# mount /dev/cdrom > > > mount: /dev/cdrom: unknown device > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] devfsd and cdrom
On Tuesday 25 September 2001 06:36 pm, J. C. Woods wrote: > Dave Kufta wrote: > > I am having difficulty mounting my cdrom, cdrom is creative CDRW-6424, > > when I attempt to mount the cdrom I get the following argument: > > > > Today is Tue Sep 25 at 17:50:21. Computer is serving > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [/etc]# mount /dev/cdrom > > mount: /dev/cdrom: unknown device > > > > There is a symlink /dev/cdrom that points to /dev/scd0, my fstab is as > > such: > > Do you have scsi emulation enabled in your kernel? Do a "lsmod" to see a > module named "ide-scsi". If it is not there, try "modprobe ide-scsi". The output from lsmod shows ide-scsi as well as some others which I'm not sure of. Her is the output: Module Size Used by isofs 18496 0 (autoclean) ipip6224 1 slip9328 2 (autoclean) ppp_synctty 5264 0 (unused) ppp_async 6672 1 ppp_generic19616 3 [ppp_synctty ppp_async] slhc5136 1 [slip ppp_generic] opl3 11904 0 (unused) sb 7728 1 sb_lib 34192 0 [sb] uart401 6352 0 [sb_lib] sound 58400 1 [opl3 sb_lib uart401] soundcore 4208 5 [sb_lib sound] af_packet 12560 2 (autoclean) 3c509 7536 1 (autoclean) ne 6880 1 (autoclean) 83906432 0 (autoclean) [ne] nls_iso8859-1 2880 1 (autoclean) nls_cp850 3632 1 (autoclean) vfat9968 1 (autoclean) fat32192 0 (autoclean) [vfat] ide-scsi8096 0 rtc 5600 0 (autoclean) reiserfs 158304 4 sd_mod 12116 0 (unused) scsi_mod 91836 2 [ide-scsi sd_mod] -- David M. Kufta Konsult Ltd. Wilmington,DE. USA https://n3meq.dynip.com System Info @ n3meq.dynip.com Linux Mandrake release 8.1 (Cooker) for i586 Kernel 2.4.8-22mdk on an i586 7:55pm up 42 min, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.28, 0.19 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] devfsd and cdrom
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:01:03 -0400 Dave Kufta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am having difficulty mounting my cdrom, cdrom is creative CDRW-6424, when I > attempt to mount the cdrom I get the following argument: > > Today is Tue Sep 25 at 17:50:21. Computer is serving > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [/etc]# mount /dev/cdrom > mount: /dev/cdrom: unknown device > Use the command # mount /mnt/cdrom Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] devfsd and cdrom
Dave Kufta wrote: > > I am having difficulty mounting my cdrom, cdrom is creative CDRW-6424, when I > attempt to mount the cdrom I get the following argument: > > Today is Tue Sep 25 at 17:50:21. Computer is serving > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [/etc]# mount /dev/cdrom > mount: /dev/cdrom: unknown device > > There is a symlink /dev/cdrom that points to /dev/scd0, my fstab is as such: > Do you have scsi emulation enabled in your kernel? Do a "lsmod" to see a module named "ide-scsi". If it is not there, try "modprobe ide-scsi". -- J. Craig Woods UNIX SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] devfsd and cdrom
I am having difficulty mounting my cdrom, cdrom is creative CDRW-6424, when I attempt to mount the cdrom I get the following argument: Today is Tue Sep 25 at 17:50:21. Computer is serving [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/etc]# mount /dev/cdrom mount: /dev/cdrom: unknown device There is a symlink /dev/cdrom that points to /dev/scd0, my fstab is as such: /dev/hda6 / reiserfs defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda7 /home reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,nosuid,noauto,exec,user,nodev0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy vfat sync,nosuid,noauto,user,nodev,unhide 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat user,exec,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 1 1 none/dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 /dev/hdc1 /usr reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 /var reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb2 swap swap defaults 0 0 I would appreciate any help or suggestions that anyone may have to offer. Thank you, Dave -- David M. Kufta Konsult Ltd. Wilmington,DE. USA https://n3meq.dynip.com System Info @ n3meq.dynip.com Linux Mandrake release 8.1 (Cooker) for i586 Kernel 2.4.8-22mdk on an i586 5:56pm up 52 min, 2 users, load average: 0.68, 0.52, 0.21 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
