Re: [expert] Fast user switching
I need to lock the other user from using my account and I'd like not to use 2x times the memory of a single Xfree session!. Actually I'looking at gdm. I'm trying to increase the username font size. Olaf At 23.15 21/11/2002, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olaf Marzocchi wrote on Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 09:30:58PM +0100 : In Windows XP I'm are able to switch between users without closing the apps. With enough ram (I have 256 MB on my p4 1800), the whole thing is fast and pretty useful: you don't have to close apps (when I surf I keep open at least 7 windows and/or tabs) and both people can work inside their environment. Since you are seemingly better at Linux than the other person, you let them login from the kdm screen. For YOU to get into X, you just press Ctrl-Alt-F2, login as your regular user, and run 'startx [ desktop ] -- :1'. This will start up a second X session with a second desktop running as your user. To get to the first user's desktop, press Ctrl-Alt-F7. To get to your desktop, press Ctrl-Alt-F8. Note that there is *** NO *** security when doing it this way. He could watch you press those keys and quite easily switch over to your desktop when you're not looking and smoke your home directory (and I'm not talking 420 either). Blue skies... Todd olaf@ kjws.com for every kind of mail, except spam! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fast user switching
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olaf Marzocchi wrote on Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 09:30:58PM +0100 : In Windows XP I'm are able to switch between users without closing the apps. With enough ram (I have 256 MB on my p4 1800), the whole thing is fast and pretty useful: you don't have to close apps (when I surf I keep open at least 7 windows and/or tabs) and both people can work inside their environment. Since you are seemingly better at Linux than the other person, you let them login from the kdm screen. For YOU to get into X, you just press Ctrl-Alt-F2, login as your regular user, and run 'startx [ desktop ] -- :1'. This will start up a second X session with a second desktop running as your user. To get to the first user's desktop, press Ctrl-Alt-F7. To get to your desktop, press Ctrl-Alt-F8. Note that there is *** NO *** security when doing it this way. He could watch you press those keys and quite easily switch over to your desktop when you're not looking and smoke your home directory (and I'm not talking 420 either). Blue skies... Todd - -- | MandrakeSoft USA | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mandrakesoft.com | Sometimes you get experience.| | http://www.mandrakelinux.com |--unknown origin | Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE93Vr2lp7v05cW2woRAuZTAJ9peN/jLq09KovW0dXd9l5bDXnZ5wCeKHqD ERpQm8IpWUYOu897wVv0+lg= =Y+ML -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fast user switching
It is not at all difficult to configure the runlevel 5 (or 4 if you're so inclined) to open TWO X sessions simultaneously, with kdm/gdm/xdm/whateverdm included. Then you just switch with CRTL-ALT-F7/8. You might lock the screen when leaving a session if your brother have a tendency of nosing around. Wooky Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olaf Marzocchi wrote on Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 09:30:58PM +0100 : In Windows XP I'm are able to switch between users without closing the apps. With enough ram (I have 256 MB on my p4 1800), the whole thing is fast and pretty useful: you don't have to close apps (when I surf I keep open at least 7 windows and/or tabs) and both people can work inside their environment. Since you are seemingly better at Linux than the other person, you let them login from the kdm screen. For YOU to get into X, you just press Ctrl-Alt-F2, login as your regular user, and run 'startx [ desktop ] -- :1'. This will start up a second X session with a second desktop running as your user. To get to the first user's desktop, press Ctrl-Alt-F7. To get to your desktop, press Ctrl-Alt-F8. Note that there is *** NO *** security when doing it this way. He could watch you press those keys and quite easily switch over to your desktop when you're not looking and smoke your home directory (and I'm not talking 420 either). Blue skies... Todd - -- | MandrakeSoft USA | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mandrakesoft.com | Sometimes you get experience.| | http://www.mandrakelinux.com |--unknown origin | Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE93Vr2lp7v05cW2woRAuZTAJ9peN/jLq09KovW0dXd9l5bDXnZ5wCeKHqD ERpQm8IpWUYOu897wVv0+lg= =Y+ML -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Discussing this document with a US citizen may be an offence. From the disclaimer of Security Holes Fixed in Linux 2.4.19, by RH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fast user switching
On the GDM part... haven't used it. But on the side of locking screens without killing apps. I'd just use xlock (in kde gnome and others choose the lock icon ) Screen is locked via the screensaver until the correct password is entered and none of your open apps are lost. On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 13:55, Vox wrote: This time Olaf Marzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: Thanks!!! Now I have kdm, to use gdm I have to change something in the runlevel 5, isn't it? You have to change the preferred DM thing...I don't know where you need to change it at, tho...what I did was change the DISPLAYMANAGER= variable in /etc/sysconfig/desktop to gdm and that worked...but I'm sure there's a mdk tool somewhere that does it for you. Vox -- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Fast user switching
In Windows XP I'm are able to switch between users without closing the apps. With enough ram (I have 256 MB on my p4 1800), the whole thing is fast and pretty useful: you don't have to close apps (when I surf I keep open at least 7 windows and/or tabs) and both people can work inside their environment. I'm planning to let use my linux bos to anyone living with me, so I'd like to know whether a similar feature exist or not. I already know I can start xfree many times, but I don't want users to be able to switch from an xfree to another one without being asked for a password. Moreover, each xfree instance requires a lot of memory. Another option is to log out every time and tell the WM to save the session, but when I come back every app has to be launched again and it takes time (remember, I'm going to share my cel400!, not the P4). Could you suggest me a solution? Thanks Olaf ** Configuration: Celeron 400 chipset sis620, 224 MB ram cas2, 40 GB HD IBM GXP 60, integrated audio CMI 8738, ethernet davicom901A, Voodoo Banshee 16 MB (plus the sis 620 integrated, now disabled), LG 8080B CD-RW. hda1 NTFS 8 GB W2K, hda5 Reiser for / 5GB, hda3 swap 392MB, hda7 ReiserFS for /home. Mandrake 9. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fast user switching
This time Olaf Marzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: In Windows XP I'm are able to switch between users without closing the apps. With enough ram (I have 256 MB on my p4 1800), the whole thing is fast and pretty useful: you don't have to close apps (when I surf I keep open at least 7 windows and/or tabs) and both people can work inside their environment. I'm planning to let use my linux bos to anyone living with me, so I'd like to know whether a similar feature exist or not. I already know I can start xfree many times, but I don't want users to be able to switch from an xfree to another one without being asked for a password. Moreover, each xfree instance requires a lot of memory. Another option is to log out every time and tell the WM to save the session, but when I come back every app has to be launched again and it takes time (remember, I'm going to share my cel400!, not the P4). Could you suggest me a solution? gdm has something like this, combined with the New Login program somewhere under the Gnome menu. If you have gdm running, you can just hit that, login as the new user without login out as the previous user and that's it. When you exit the 2nd user, you'll need the password of the original user to get back into his desktop, tho. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. msg61075/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Fast user switching
Thanks!!! Now I have kdm, to use gdm I have to change something in the runlevel 5, isn't it? Olaf At 21.46 16/11/2002, you wrote: This time Olaf Marzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: In Windows XP I'm are able to switch between users without closing the apps. With enough ram (I have 256 MB on my p4 1800), the whole thing is fast and pretty useful: you don't have to close apps (when I surf I keep open at least 7 windows and/or tabs) and both people can work inside their environment. I'm planning to let use my linux bos to anyone living with me, so I'd like to know whether a similar feature exist or not. I already know I can start xfree many times, but I don't want users to be able to switch from an xfree to another one without being asked for a password. Moreover, each xfree instance requires a lot of memory. Another option is to log out every time and tell the WM to save the session, but when I come back every app has to be launched again and it takes time (remember, I'm going to share my cel400!, not the P4). Could you suggest me a solution? gdm has something like this, combined with the New Login program somewhere under the Gnome menu. If you have gdm running, you can just hit that, login as the new user without login out as the previous user and that's it. When you exit the 2nd user, you'll need the password of the original user to get back into his desktop, tho. Vox olaf@ kjws.com for every kind of mail, except spam! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fast user switching
This time Olaf Marzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: Thanks!!! Now I have kdm, to use gdm I have to change something in the runlevel 5, isn't it? You have to change the preferred DM thing...I don't know where you need to change it at, tho...what I did was change the DISPLAYMANAGER= variable in /etc/sysconfig/desktop to gdm and that worked...but I'm sure there's a mdk tool somewhere that does it for you. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. msg61078/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
