Re: [expert] Fujitsu MO640 SCSI drive troubles

2000-05-30 Thread Thomas Lockhart

> If you do, you may gain disk drive space, or, more likely, you will lose
> space (more inter-record gaps for the amount of data).
> Somebody at JPL must know more about SCSI drives than I do. :-)

Maybe. But don't count on it ;)

afaik this is not a viable option for this drive; it is MO and may have
some physical registering on the platter for the sectors. And if it were
possible, it wouldn't have been necessary to patch the 2.0.x kernel to
use the drive.

Thanks for the suggestions. I do have a contact in Japan, and will ask
him to skim the Japanese web sites for info. Will report back...

 - Tom

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Re: [expert] Fujitsu MO640 SCSI drive troubles

2000-05-30 Thread Charles Curley

On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 08:13:27PM +, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
-> > Tom, have you considered reformatting the drive to use 512 byte sectors
-> > like the rest of the world?
-> 
-> afaik that is not an option. The drive has 2048byte physical sectors;
-> until Fujitsu built that drive the largest sector size was 1024bytes
-> which is why the 2.0.x kernels required patching to use the drive.
-> 
-> The drive uses 512byte sectors when mounting the backward-compatible
-> 230MB disks.
-> 
-> Unfortunately, most of the references to the drive in the context of
-> Linux are in Japanese (from an Altavista search) so I haven't been able
-> to find an answer yet...

Sorry, it's the physical sectors I had in mind. On your SCSI host adapter
(HA) BIOS, you may find an option to reformat. Cool so far, but you will
get 2048 sectors. First, you need to send a command to the drive to tell
it to use 512 byte sectors. Then you tell the drive to format itself. Then
you go home for the night.

It's really low level stuff, and I have never done it with a PC HA. I've
always used custom disk drive test equiptment (when I worked at Maxtor) or
the Atari ST to do it.

First thing to do is get a spec for the appropriate verion of SCSI your
drive claims to support. See if commands to set the sector size and format
are required. Format I believe has been required since SCSI I. I forget
now whether the command to set the sector size is a required command or a
Maxtor extension.

If you do, you may gain disk drive space, or, more likely, you will lose
space (more inter-record gaps for the amount of data).

Somebody at JPL must know more about SCSI drives than I do. :-)

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Re: [expert] Fujitsu MO640 SCSI drive troubles

2000-05-30 Thread Thomas Lockhart

> Tom, have you considered reformatting the drive to use 512 byte sectors
> like the rest of the world?

afaik that is not an option. The drive has 2048byte physical sectors;
until Fujitsu built that drive the largest sector size was 1024bytes
which is why the 2.0.x kernels required patching to use the drive.

The drive uses 512byte sectors when mounting the backward-compatible
230MB disks.

Unfortunately, most of the references to the drive in the context of
Linux are in Japanese (from an Altavista search) so I haven't been able
to find an answer yet...

   - Tom

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Caltech/JPL
Interferometry Systems and Technology




Re: [expert] Fujitsu MO640 SCSI drive troubles

2000-05-26 Thread Charles Curley

On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 03:05:28AM +, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
-> I've finally upgraded my home machine to Mdk-7.0-2 from RH-5.2 (I've
-> been running my laptop and a couple of other machines on it for a few
-> months).
-> 
-> I am having trouble accessing my Fujitsu MO640 disk drive. My old
-> RH-5.2/Linux-2.0.3x kernels required patching to use it, but the 2.2.x
-> kernels have support for 2048 byte sectors built in. The kernel reports
-> reasonable info when I boot with a disk in the drive. cfdisk reports the
-> correct sector count and disk size, but says something about a "partial
-> partition" when writing a new partition table. mkfs fails miserably,
-> throwing SCSI errors when it tries to read sectors *way* off the end of
-> the disk. Needless to say, mount fails even on existing disks. I saw a
-> thread from some time ago (kernel circa 2.2.9) indicating that getting
-> consistant info for the disk size and sector size might be problematic,
-> but it did not report a solution.
-> 
-> Has anyone had recent success with this drive? Any hints or suggestions
-> on parameters to specify or change which might get this working? After
-> doing a clean install, all of my backup files are on this drive... :/


Tom, have you considered reformatting the drive to use 512 byte sectors
like the rest of the world?


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[expert] Fujitsu MO640 SCSI drive troubles

2000-05-25 Thread Thomas Lockhart

I've finally upgraded my home machine to Mdk-7.0-2 from RH-5.2 (I've
been running my laptop and a couple of other machines on it for a few
months).

I am having trouble accessing my Fujitsu MO640 disk drive. My old
RH-5.2/Linux-2.0.3x kernels required patching to use it, but the 2.2.x
kernels have support for 2048 byte sectors built in. The kernel reports
reasonable info when I boot with a disk in the drive. cfdisk reports the
correct sector count and disk size, but says something about a "partial
partition" when writing a new partition table. mkfs fails miserably,
throwing SCSI errors when it tries to read sectors *way* off the end of
the disk. Needless to say, mount fails even on existing disks. I saw a
thread from some time ago (kernel circa 2.2.9) indicating that getting
consistant info for the disk size and sector size might be problematic,
but it did not report a solution.

Has anyone had recent success with this drive? Any hints or suggestions
on parameters to specify or change which might get this working? After
doing a clean install, all of my backup files are on this drive... :/

TIA

   - Tom

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Thomas Lockhart
Caltech/JPL
Interferometry Systems and Technology