Re: [expert] KDE 2.1.1 for LM72 -- Success After All!
Benjamin, Thanks for your efforts and persistence in sorting this out. I have some questions that you or someone else might be able to answer: 1. Will the rpms install / work with XFree86.3.x.x? (It looks like the files you listed include only XFree86-4.0.3. One of my machines will only work with XFree86-3.x.x because it has an SiS 5597 video chipset on board.) 2. I upgraded one of my Mandrake 7.2 installations to kde 2.1. There are some problems -- it does not work 100% correctly. Do you think I can use the rpms to upgrade from my current installation to kde 2.1.1, or should I make a "clean" reinstallation of Mandrake 7.2 and start from there? Aside: There has been some speculation that the XFree86-4.0.3 drivers for SiS will work with the SiS 5597. Can anybody actually confirm this? (If there is misinformation, I contributed to it -- I asked on the XFree mailing list about SiS 5597 drivers for 4.0.3. Someone responded saying they believed the 4.0.3 driver worked for the SiS 5597 because there were multiple references to the SiS 5597 in the driver source code. I don't believe that person actually tried it, and I never actually tried it, but I passed the same information to someone else (on the cooker list IIRC). Sorry, my mistake! Thanks, Randy Kramer Benjamin Sher wrote: This site has i586 rpms for LM72 that will allow you to upgrade your current KDE to the final version 2.1.1 I just sucessfully upgraded my KDE 2.1 to KDE 2.1.1 using the instructions and files at Texstar. See my instructions and explanation below.
Re: [expert] KDE 2.1.1 for LM72 -- Success After All!
Randy Kramer wrote: Benjamin, Thanks for your efforts and persistence in sorting this out. --snip -- snip --- Someone responded saying they believed the 4.0.3 driver worked for the SiS 5597 because there were multiple references to the SiS 5597 in the driver source code. I don't believe that person actually tried it, and I never actually tried it, but I passed the same information to someone else (on the cooker list IIRC). Sorry, my mistake! Thanks, Randy Kramer You will probably want to go directly to the source for first hand information. http://xfree86.org/4.0.3/SiS1.html#1 Here it is, in part. This driver was primarily written for the SiS6326 and SiS530 by Alan Hourihane. It also works on 5597/5598 chips, and probably on older SiS862X5 family. The driver supports : Linear Addressing 8/15/16/24 bits per pixel Fully programmable clocks are supported H/W acceleration and cursor support XAA support (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture) Larry -- Sword'sEdge VoiceMail/Fax: (858) 860-6406 x1587
Re: [expert] KDE 2.1.1 for LM72 -- Success After All!
I actually used to mirror their RPM's to my system occasionally, but I've since removed the script, but it should be easily recreatable by anyone familiar with wget. Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: Well, looks like I was wrong again. But this time it's a pleasant surprise. Let's go back to the KDE 2.1.1 upgrade for LM72 site from Texstar at: http://texstar.dyn.dhs.org This site has i586 rpms for LM72 that will allow you to upgrade your current KDE to the final version 2.1.1 I just sucessfully upgraded my KDE 2.1 to KDE 2.1.1 using the instructions and files at Texstar. See my instructions and explanation below. All of these i586 rpms (just issued on April 7) have been built from the Cooker site and made available on LM72 (i.e. using our version 3.0 rpm instead of the version 4 rpm required for Cooker's i586 rpms. Another big news item: The new Mozilla 0.8.1 files have also just been made available as i586 rpms for LM72. But please remember: these are UNsupported rpms. They are NOT officially supported by Mandrake. INSTRUCTIONS: I'll take the blame for my share of the responsiblity for misleading everybody earlier (not once but twice) but the author of Texstar should take his share of the blame, too. When you arrive at Texstar, AVOID any links on the main screen (FTP or HTTP links, etc.). That was my mistake earlier. This is NOT the entrance to the KDE 2.1.1 files. Instead, look at the top left corner of the screen. You will see a penguin (that is NOT a link but should be one). Right below it you will find the link you want: Pclinuxonline. As you can see, it is underlined. Click on it. Now look for the section pertaining to KDE 2.1.1 for LM72. First, download the two freetype2 files freetype2-2.0.2-1mdk.i586.rpm freetype2-devel-2.0.2-1mdk.i586.rpm and install them first. Then create a KDE-2.1.1 directory and download all the files INDIVIDUALLY. I don't think there is any other way. Here is what my directory looks like. I call it KDE-FINAL: [sher@sher07 sher]$ cd KDE-FINAL [sher@sher07 KDE-FINAL]$ ls XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-Xnest-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-devel-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-doc-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-glide-module-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-libs-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-server-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-static-libs-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-xfs-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm arts-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeadmin-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-devel-static-libraries-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-nsplugins-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegames-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegames-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-devel-static-libraries-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-sound-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-sound-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdepim-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdepim-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesdk-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesdk-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesupport-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesupport-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdetoys-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdetoys-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeutils-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeutils-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdevelop-1.4.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdoc-2.1.1-1mdk.noarch.rpm koffice-2.0.1-7mdk.i586.rpm koffice-devel-2.0.1-7mdk.i586.rpm libarts2-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm libarts2-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm libqt2-2.3.0-2mdk.i586.rpm libqt2-devel-2.3.0-2mdk.i586.rpm qt2-Xt-2.3.0-2mdk.i586.rpm qt2-designer-2.3.0-2mdk.i586.rpm qt2-static-libraries-2.3.0-2mdk.i586.rpm [sher@sher07 KDE-FINAL]$ Now, after installing the 2freetype2 files, install the KDE files (all 53 of them, 120.1 meg) as follows: #rpm -Uvh --nodeps --replacefiles *.rpm When I first did an rpm -Uvh *.rpm I got an error message telling me that there was one failed dependency, namely, that kdesu was not installed. That's not true because kdesu is included in kde-base (and is not available separately in LM72). So, there are NO failed dependencies. But some files in KDE2.1.1 must replace certain files in earlier versions of KDE 2 (you must first install KDE 2.0 or KDE 2.01 in order to upgrade to KDE 2.1.1. Installation was a success. All 53 files returned 50 hashes each. There was one error message about a certain font but it said: "skipping." so I am sure everything installed OK. After installation, exit KDE, then in the console do a: #rpm --rebuilddb (rebuilding the database) and #update-menus -v Then reboot and you've got KDE 2.1.1. You can check the Control Center to see the new
Re: [expert] KDE 2.1.1 for LM72 -- Success After All!
Larry, Thanks very much! As an aside, I just wanted you to know that I had made an attempt to go to the source, and found this (probably 1-2 months ago, but it hasn't changed). http://xfree86.org/4.0.2/Status30.html#30 Quoting: Summary: Support for the 86C201, 86C202, 86C215, 86C225, 5597 and 5598 is currently only available in 3.3.6. Sounds like your information is more up to date and deals with 4.0.3, where the information above only deals with 4.0.2 (and 3.3.6), and your information is good news! I had written to xfree once about updating the page I referenced, I don't know whether it's worth trying again. Thanks again! Randy Kramer Larry Sword wrote: You will probably want to go directly to the source for first hand information. http://xfree86.org/4.0.3/SiS1.html#1 Here it is, in part. This driver was primarily written for the SiS6326 and SiS530 by Alan Hourihane. It also works on 5597/5598 chips, and probably on older SiS862X5 family. The driver supports : Linear Addressing 8/15/16/24 bits per pixel Fully programmable clocks are supported H/W acceleration and cursor support XAA support (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)
Re: [expert] KDE 2.1.1 for LM72 -- Success After All!
Larry, Sorry if this is a duplicate -- I tried to send a message like this just a few minutes ago -- it's gone and I can't find it in my sent folder. Anyway, thanks very much for that information. I wanted to let you know that I did try to go to the source, something like 1 to 2 months ago, and found this (and still says this today): http://xfree86.org/4.0.2/Status30.html#30 Which says: Summary: Support for the 86C201, 86C202, 86C215, 86C225, 5597 and 5598 is currently only available in 3.3.6. Clearly, your information is better information because it is based on 4.0.3 instead of 4.0.2, and is also better news! I am writing (again) to xfree86 to suggest that they rearrange the information to be more clear. Thanks, Randy Kramer Larry Sword wrote: You will probably want to go directly to the source for first hand information. http://xfree86.org/4.0.3/SiS1.html#1 Here it is, in part. This driver was primarily written for the SiS6326 and SiS530 by Alan Hourihane. It also works on 5597/5598 chips, and probably on older SiS862X5 family. The driver supports : Linear Addressing 8/15/16/24 bits per pixel Fully programmable clocks are supported H/W acceleration and cursor support XAA support (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)
Re: [expert] KDE 2.1.1 for LM72 -- Success After All!
Below, is a portion of what you had instructed... for installing KDE2.1.1 final. How exactly do you EXIT KDE to go into console mode...? do you exit as if to logout of the system...then when it asks.. select console mode is this how? Benjamin Sher wrote: After installation, exit KDE, then in the console do a: #rpm --rebuilddb (rebuilding the database) and #update-menus -v Then reboot and you've got KDE 2.1.1. You can check the Control Center to see the new version number. -- Registered Linux User: 167369 = http://www.kompukit.com = [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am S+S=12pm-12am) (US EST)
Re: [expert] KDE 2.1.1 for LM72 -- Success After All!
Dear Randy: Thanks for your kind words. Wish I could help you with your specific quesitons. But I am just a newbie. Hope someone on the list is qualified to answer them. Thanks again. Benjamin On Sunday 08 April 2001 17:13, you wrote: Benjamin, Thanks for your efforts and persistence in sorting this out. I have some questions that you or someone else might be able to answer: 1. Will the rpms install / work with XFree86.3.x.x? (It looks like the files you listed include only XFree86-4.0.3. One of my machines will only work with XFree86-3.x.x because it has an SiS 5597 video chipset on board.) 2. I upgraded one of my Mandrake 7.2 installations to kde 2.1. There are some problems -- it does not work 100% correctly. Do you think I can use the rpms to upgrade from my current installation to kde 2.1.1, or should I make a "clean" reinstallation of Mandrake 7.2 and start from there? Aside: There has been some speculation that the XFree86-4.0.3 drivers for SiS will work with the SiS 5597. Can anybody actually confirm this? (If there is misinformation, I contributed to it -- I asked on the XFree mailing list about SiS 5597 drivers for 4.0.3. Someone responded saying they believed the 4.0.3 driver worked for the SiS 5597 because there were multiple references to the SiS 5597 in the driver source code. I don't believe that person actually tried it, and I never actually tried it, but I passed the same information to someone else (on the cooker list IIRC). Sorry, my mistake! Thanks, Randy Kramer -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] KDE 2.1.1 for LM72 -- Success After All!
Dear Kompukit: You can do #rpm --rebuilddb and #update-menus -v both in KDE"s konsole (or any xterm) or you can log out of KDE into the console, and do it there. If you have chosen to boot up to KDE directly (runlevel 5, i.e. graphically), then you should do this in KDE's xterm, then reboot. If you boot up to the console first (runlevel 3), then type startx to log into KDE, then you can perform these commands either in KDE or in the console, then log out back into the console after installation of KDE 2.1.1. and log back in or, to play it safe, just reboot. Benjamin On Sunday 08 April 2001 22:58, you wrote: Below, is a portion of what you had instructed... for installing KDE2.1.1 final. How exactly do you EXIT KDE to go into console mode...? do you exit as if to logout of the system...then when it asks.. select console mode is this how? Benjamin Sher wrote: After installation, exit KDE, then in the console do a: #rpm --rebuilddb (rebuilding the database) and #update-menus -v Then reboot and you've got KDE 2.1.1. You can check the Control Center to see the new version number. -- Registered Linux User: 167369 = http://www.kompukit.com = [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071 Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org WebDesigner: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am S+S=12pm-12am) (US EST) -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] KDE 2.1.1 for LM72 -- Success After All!
Kit, In order to drop out to a console, even though it's not necessary to do the update, just hit CTRL+ALT+F1. that will take you to a console. You will be looking at a console login prompt. Log in as root, and do your stuff. Navigate to the dir with the packages in and issue the command to start the upgrade process. rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm I like to use the --test argument to test for dependency problems first to make sure everything is good to go, then if I don't get anything returned to the command line I remove the --test argument and run the update. After you've done the "rpm --rebuilddb" and "update-menus" you can return to your still running X-windows session by pressing CTRL+ALT+F7. From here, if you're not already there you can log out of your X-windows session to the graphical login screen and restart your computer. Actually, all you should really have to do is start the X server, but sometimes folks feel better if they restart the system entirely. A left over of the Windows world. Nothing to be ashamed of. That's all there is to it. Mark On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, KompuKit wrote: Below, is a portion of what you had instructed... for installing KDE2.1.1 final. How exactly do you EXIT KDE to go into console mode...? do you exit as if to logout of the system...then when it asks.. select console mode is this how? Benjamin Sher wrote: After installation, exit KDE, then in the console do a: #rpm --rebuilddb (rebuilding the database) and #update-menus -v Then reboot and you've got KDE 2.1.1. You can check the Control Center to see the new version number.
[expert] KDE 2.1.1 for LM72 -- Success After All!
Dear friends: Well, looks like I was wrong again. But this time it's a pleasant surprise. Let's go back to the KDE 2.1.1 upgrade for LM72 site from Texstar at: http://texstar.dyn.dhs.org This site has i586 rpms for LM72 that will allow you to upgrade your current KDE to the final version 2.1.1 I just sucessfully upgraded my KDE 2.1 to KDE 2.1.1 using the instructions and files at Texstar. See my instructions and explanation below. All of these i586 rpms (just issued on April 7) have been built from the Cooker site and made available on LM72 (i.e. using our version 3.0 rpm instead of the version 4 rpm required for Cooker's i586 rpms. Another big news item: The new Mozilla 0.8.1 files have also just been made available as i586 rpms for LM72. But please remember: these are UNsupported rpms. They are NOT officially supported by Mandrake. INSTRUCTIONS: I'll take the blame for my share of the responsiblity for misleading everybody earlier (not once but twice) but the author of Texstar should take his share of the blame, too. When you arrive at Texstar, AVOID any links on the main screen (FTP or HTTP links, etc.). That was my mistake earlier. This is NOT the entrance to the KDE 2.1.1 files. Instead, look at the top left corner of the screen. You will see a penguin (that is NOT a link but should be one). Right below it you will find the link you want: Pclinuxonline. As you can see, it is underlined. Click on it. Now look for the section pertaining to KDE 2.1.1 for LM72. First, download the two freetype2 files freetype2-2.0.2-1mdk.i586.rpm freetype2-devel-2.0.2-1mdk.i586.rpm and install them first. Then create a KDE-2.1.1 directory and download all the files INDIVIDUALLY. I don't think there is any other way. Here is what my directory looks like. I call it KDE-FINAL: [sher@sher07 sher]$ cd KDE-FINAL [sher@sher07 KDE-FINAL]$ ls XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-Xnest-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-devel-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-doc-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-glide-module-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-libs-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-server-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-static-libs-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm XFree86-xfs-4.0.3-1.1mdk.i586.rpm arts-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeadmin-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-devel-static-libraries-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-nsplugins-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegames-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegames-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-devel-static-libraries-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-sound-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-sound-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdepim-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdepim-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesdk-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesdk-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesupport-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesupport-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdetoys-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdetoys-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeutils-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeutils-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdevelop-1.4.1-1mdk.i586.rpm kdoc-2.1.1-1mdk.noarch.rpm koffice-2.0.1-7mdk.i586.rpm koffice-devel-2.0.1-7mdk.i586.rpm libarts2-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm libarts2-devel-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm libqt2-2.3.0-2mdk.i586.rpm libqt2-devel-2.3.0-2mdk.i586.rpm qt2-Xt-2.3.0-2mdk.i586.rpm qt2-designer-2.3.0-2mdk.i586.rpm qt2-static-libraries-2.3.0-2mdk.i586.rpm [sher@sher07 KDE-FINAL]$ Now, after installing the 2freetype2 files, install the KDE files (all 53 of them, 120.1 meg) as follows: #rpm -Uvh --nodeps --replacefiles *.rpm When I first did an rpm -Uvh *.rpm I got an error message telling me that there was one failed dependency, namely, that kdesu was not installed. That's not true because kdesu is included in kde-base (and is not available separately in LM72). So, there are NO failed dependencies. But some files in KDE2.1.1 must replace certain files in earlier versions of KDE 2 (you must first install KDE 2.0 or KDE 2.01 in order to upgrade to KDE 2.1.1. Installation was a success. All 53 files returned 50 hashes each. There was one error message about a certain font but it said: "skipping." so I am sure everything installed OK. After installation, exit KDE, then in the console do a: #rpm --rebuilddb (rebuilding the database) and #update-menus -v Then reboot and you've got KDE 2.1.1. You can check the Control Center to see the new version number. My thanks to everyone who helped. Hope I have been of help to others, especially to other newbies like myself. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
