Re: [expert] Need someone to point DNS-Correction
Pj wrote: Stephen, Mea Culpa! I plead total ignorance to geek terminology. My ISP frequently uses the term IP to mean internet provider. If perchance IP refers to a different technolory then I would of course be interested to know what it does mean. It's the "IP" in TCP/IP -- or Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol... an abbreviation I often hear is "IP" in place of "IP address" - e.g. "What's your IP" (sounds vaguely like "Breaker, breaker, what's your handle") -Stephen-
Re: [expert] Need someone to point DNS-Correction
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote: Stephen, Mea Culpa! I plead total ignorance to geek terminology. My ISP frequently uses the term IP to mean internet provider. If perchance IP refers to a different technolory then I would of course be interested to know what it does mean. IP==Internet Protocol The following was swiped from http://whatis.com IP (Internet Protocol) The Internet Protocol (IP) is the method or protocol by which data is sent from one computer to another on the Internet. Each computer (known as a host) on the Internet has at least one address that uniquely identifies it from all other computers on the Internet. When you send or receive data (for example, an e-mail note or a Web page), the message gets divided into little chunks called packets. Each of these packets contains both the sender's Internet address and the receiver's address. Any packet is sent first to a gateway computer that understands a small part of the Internet. The gateway computer reads the destination address and forwards the packet to an adjacent gateway that in turn reads the destination address and so forth across the Internet until one gateway recognizes the packet as belonging to a computer within its immediate neighborhood or domain. That gateway then forwards the packet directly to the computer whose address is specified. Because a message is divided into a number of packets, each packet can, if necessary, be sent by a different route across the Internet. Packets can arrive in a different order than the order they were sent in. The Internet Protocol just delivers them. It's up to another protocol, the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) to put them back in the right order. IP is a connectionless protocol, which means that there is no established connection between the end points that are communicating. Each packet that travels through the Internet is treated as an independent unit of data without any relation to any other unit of data. (The reason the packets do get put in the right order is because of TCP, the connection-oriented protocol that keeps track of the packet sequence in a message.) In the Open Systems Interconnection (OSI) communication model, IP is in layer 3, the Networking Layer. The most widely used version of IP today is Internet Protocol Version 4 (IPv4). However, IP Version 6 (IPv6) is also beginning to be supported. IPv6 provides for much longer addresses and therefore for the possibility of many more Internet users. IPv6 includes the capabilities of IPv4 and any server that can support IPv6 packets can also support IPv4 packets.
Re: [expert] Need someone to point DNS-Correction
Thanks John! I knew some of the information but not all. I wonder how popular IP Version 6 (IPv6) is now? Pj
Re: [expert] Need someone to point DNS-Correction
Pj wrote: Thanks John! I knew some of the information but not all. I wonder how popular IP Version 6 (IPv6) is now? Increasingly -- I know Solaris 8 ships with IPv6 support, and Cisco's new IOS supports IPv6... but have you ever looked at it? *cringe* 128 bit hex addresses... god help us -- it's well-designed, but I liked it when I could still look at an IP address and understand it. We'll see it in the biggest nodes before it will appear at the desktop level. -Stephen-
Re: [expert] Need someone to point DNS-Correction
Stephen, It sounds like spoof-er heaven. The addresses are bad enough the way they are. -( Pj Stephen F. Bosch wrote: Pj wrote: Thanks John! I knew some of the information but not all. I wonder how popular IP Version 6 (IPv6) is now? Increasingly -- I know Solaris 8 ships with IPv6 support, and Cisco's new IOS supports IPv6... but have you ever looked at it? *cringe* 128 bit hex addresses... god help us -- it's well-designed, but I liked it when I could still look at an IP address and understand it. We'll see it in the biggest nodes before it will appear at the desktop level. -Stephen-
Re: [expert] Need someone to point DNS-Correction
Ooops I goofed. Your IP should know how to set up the *server* to point to your page and answer page requests properly--providing your site is active: is the page content and all the graphics in your account on the server and does the index page have the correct extension? Pj wrote: If I understand this subject correctly there are two issues: the host and the account holder. They are not necessarily serviced by the same IP, and do not forget: IP's are not all created equal. If you have a hosted, active, paid DNS account anyone anywhere in the world should be able to type in www.yoursiteneame.com and see your page in all it's glory. However there is a caveat writtn in fine print in most IP-Client contracts: It's called site content. The IP agrees to host your site as long as the the content is not purient, and doesnt promote antisocial behavior on the site. Most IP's reserve the right to cancel the account, and delete the page from the server without warning under the conditions as set forth in the contract. SPAM and XXX sites are types of accounts that usually get removed from the server quickly. If this is a new account or if your are moving your business from one IP to another IP time can be a big factor. One IP didn't set up my client's page for almost 6-months even though the IP received the NIC approval within three days after the name was approved. Conversely, because of extenuating circumstances-and with the help of NIC and the new IP-a friend was able to move his very large and active business account and be active in less than 24-hours. I've had accounts under some incredibly bad IP's who simply knew nothing about web page hosting set-up but were too ego-centered to admit it. In short, the IP that hosts your webpage should know how to set up the browser to point to your page and service page requests properly. If your acccount is new, your host should be able to tell you how long it will take to set up your account on his server once he receives notice from NIC or ICANN. My IP will usually do it within 24-hours. If is usually convenient to host your page with a local IP. However, it is not a requirement. You should be able to see your page from your home, office or from a hotel in another country as long as you can get on the web. If you cannot see your page, then you need to find out why. Pj
Re: [expert] Need someone to point DNS-Correction
Pj wrote: Ooops I goofed. Your IP should know how to set up the *server* to point to your page and answer page requests properly--providing your site is active: is the page content and all the graphics in your account on the server and does the index page have the correct extension? You mean ISP, don't you? Again -- not to be an ANALyst, but I think the distinction is important, since IP is also a term. (In fact, you had me completely confused for a moment there.) -Stephen-
Re: [expert] Need someone to point DNS-Correction
Stephen, Mea Culpa! I plead total ignorance to geek terminology. My ISP frequently uses the term IP to mean internet provider. If perchance IP refers to a different technolory then I would of course be interested to know what it does mean. Pj
Re: [expert] Need someone to point DNS-Correction
IP = Internet Protocol - as in TCP/IP ISP = Internet Service Provider --- Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen, Mea Culpa! I plead total ignorance to geek terminology. My ISP frequently uses the term IP to mean internet provider. If perchance IP refers to a different technolory then I would of course be interested to know what it does mean. Pj = Mage Grimau, Strange Unwashed Somewhat Slightly Dazed VoiceMail/Fax: 1-651-328-1145 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
Re: [expert] Need someone to point DNS-Correction
Gotcha! I should have realized that myself. Thanks for the reminder. Pj Mage Grimau wrote: IP = Internet Protocol - as in TCP/IP ISP = Internet Service Provider --- Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen, Mea Culpa! I plead total ignorance to geek terminology. My ISP frequently uses the term IP to mean internet provider. If perchance IP refers to a different technolory then I would of course be interested to know what it does mean. Pj = Mage Grimau, Strange Unwashed Somewhat Slightly Dazed VoiceMail/Fax: 1-651-328-1145
