Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-27 Thread Vincent Danen

On Wed Feb 28, 2001 at 01:35:06PM +1300, Mark Derricutt wrote:

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Current Linux kernel 2.4.1-15mdk uptime: 10 days 4 hours 58 minutes.
> 
> I see you're running 2.4.1-15mdk - are there any mandrake rpm's for this? 
> also, I'm wanting to run it cause of the ATA/100 support, is there anyway 
> for me to make an install Mandrake using this new kernel package?  i.e. 
> make a bootdisc that uses it, and burn a custom Mandrake CD with the new 
> kernel package on it?

Sure, simple answer for all your questions is:  Cooker.  The RPM came
from cooker (at 2.4.2-3mdk now, but I haven't upgraded yet), and you
can download ISO's of cooker with that kernel and do the install with
it.

Cooker works very nice for me here...

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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-27 Thread Mark Derricutt

--On Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:35 AM -0700 Vincent Danen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It still doesn't make much sense to me.  So people have to put a
> yellow sticky on their monitor to know what times they can send
> messages to the list?

Is that GMT time as well :P  Dont forget us international people :)

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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-27 Thread Vincent Danen

On Tue Feb 27, 2001 at 06:47:57PM -0700, Praedor Tempus wrote:

> Do you know of any compelling reason to upgrade from 2.4.1-15 to 2.4.2?  I am 
> running 2.4.1-16mdk and seem to only see a few network cards and the like 
> added to the supported list in the 2.4.2 kernel.  I don't think there is any 
> improvement to any of the internals, really, or am I wrong?

You're asking the wrong guy...  I'm pretty much an idiot when it comes
to the kernel.  No, I don't think there's a major reason to upgrade to
2.4.2, at least not that I know of.  From my understanding (and this
may have been corrected by now), there is a problem with mounting
loopback filesystems with the 2.4.2 kernels...  whethere this is still
the case or not, I do not know.  I don't typically update kernels in
cooker each time a new one comes out, but I will probably update to
the 2.4.2 kernels soon (for testing purposes, etc.).

I could be wrong though...  like I said, I'm not too big on the
kernel... I don't pay much attention to it.

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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-27 Thread Praedor Tempus

Do you know of any compelling reason to upgrade from 2.4.1-15 to 2.4.2?  I am 
running 2.4.1-16mdk and seem to only see a few network cards and the like 
added to the supported list in the 2.4.2 kernel.  I don't think there is any 
improvement to any of the internals, really, or am I wrong?

On Tuesday 27 February 2001 17:51, Vincent Danen wrote:
> On Wed Feb 28, 2001 at 01:35:06PM +1300, Mark Derricutt wrote:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Current Linux kernel 2.4.1-15mdk uptime: 10 days 4 hours 58 minutes.
> >
> > I see you're running 2.4.1-15mdk - are there any mandrake rpm's for this?
[...]
> Sure, simple answer for all your questions is:  Cooker.  The RPM came
> from cooker (at 2.4.2-3mdk now, but I haven't upgraded yet), and you
> can download ISO's of cooker with that kernel and do the install with
> it.
>
> Cooker works very nice for me here...



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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-27 Thread Mark Derricutt

--On Monday, February 26, 2001 8:09 PM -0700 Vincent Danen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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>
> Current Linux kernel 2.4.1-15mdk uptime: 10 days 4 hours 58 minutes.

I see you're running 2.4.1-15mdk - are there any mandrake rpm's for this? 
also, I'm wanting to run it cause of the ATA/100 support, is there anyway 
for me to make an install Mandrake using this new kernel package?  i.e. 
make a bootdisc that uses it, and burn a custom Mandrake CD with the new 
kernel package on it?


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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-27 Thread Christopher Molnar

On Tuesday 27 February 2001 12:35, you wrote:
> On Mon Feb 26, 2001 at 10:18:32PM +, KompuKit wrote:
> > Thats why I asked subscribers to only send mail to the list at the
> > specified times...
> > ONLYthat way the turn around rate will always be good.
> > Plus, in a short whileI will be going 24/7 I'll let them know when.
> > thanks for your suggestion
>
> It still doesn't make much sense to me.  So people have to put a
> yellow sticky on their monitor to know what times they can send
> messages to the list?
>
> You might be better off waiting to do this until it is available 24/7
> so users don't end up getting frustrated and/or un-sub-scri-bing

I read the first message on this earlier this morning and never got a moment 
to reply until now. How come you want to start another help list?  As far as 
I know there is in exsistance:

mail lists:
expert
newbie
cooker

newsgroup:
alt.linux.os.mandrake

Web Sites:
MandrakeExpert.com
forum

(to many more to list here)

As you split more and more forums for help out the peopel who provide the 
help will split up and in actuality the turn around time for help will 
decrease. I know I will not be able to subscribe to to many more email lists 
before I need to give up. Not sure if anyone is doing any favors by starting 
more lists.

-Chris

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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-27 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Feb 26, 2001 at 10:18:32PM +, KompuKit wrote:

> Thats why I asked subscribers to only send mail to the list at the
> specified times...
> ONLYthat way the turn around rate will always be good.
> Plus, in a short whileI will be going 24/7 I'll let them know when.
> thanks for your suggestion

It still doesn't make much sense to me.  So people have to put a
yellow sticky on their monitor to know what times they can send
messages to the list?

You might be better off waiting to do this until it is available 24/7
so users don't end up getting frustrated and/or un-sub-scri-bing

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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-27 Thread Jesper Holmberg



* On Monday, February 26, KompuKit wrote:
> please adhere to the server times below, before sending
> to this list...

> (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am)

Is this Central European Time? Since there's no indication otherwise,
I'll assume it is and adhere strictly to my assumption.

Jesper


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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-26 Thread John J. LeMay Jr.

** Reply to message from KompuKit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 26 Feb 2001
22:18:32 +


> Thats why I asked subscribers to only send mail to the list at the
> specified times...

You still didn't specify WHAT times! You mention hours, but you don't mention
if those are UTC, US Eastern, Central, Pacific, Mountain, or some local time
zone in the middle of a jungle somewhere! It's a BIG world!

John LeMay Jr.
Senior Enterprise Consultant
NJMC, LLC.


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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-26 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Feb 26, 2001 at 09:03:11PM +, KompuKit wrote:

> I've created a new domo list for mandrakeusers...
> it's an unofficial help list...
> to subscribe:
> send email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> with in the body of it, send the command:
> 
> subscribe mandrakeusers
> 
> 
> please adhere to the server times below, before sending
> to this list...

This isn't a very good idea...  the mail turn around is going to be
slow for a non-24/7 server.  And mail might bounce and so forth... you
really should get a dedicated mail server if you want to run a mailing
list.

If you like, I can setup a mailing list here (something like
[EMAIL PROTECTED]), but I don't understand the
need... is newbie|cooker|expert not enough?

I'd be more than happy to host a mailing list on my server (which is
available 24/7), if you think there is a real need or desire.

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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-26 Thread KompuKit

Thats why I asked subscribers to only send mail to the list at the
specified times...
ONLYthat way the turn around rate will always be good.
Plus, in a short whileI will be going 24/7 I'll let them know when.
thanks for your suggestion

Vincent Danen wrote:
> 
> On Mon Feb 26, 2001 at 09:03:11PM +, KompuKit wrote:
> 
> > I've created a new domo list for mandrakeusers...
> > it's an unofficial help list...
> > to subscribe:
> > send email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > with in the body of it, send the command:
> >
> > subscribe mandrakeusers
> >
> >
> > please adhere to the server times below, before sending
> > to this list...
> 
> This isn't a very good idea...  the mail turn around is going to be
> slow for a non-24/7 server.  And mail might bounce and so forth... you
> really should get a dedicated mail server if you want to run a mailing
> list.
> 
> If you like, I can setup a mailing list here (something like
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]), but I don't understand the
> need... is newbie|cooker|expert not enough?
> 
> I'd be more than happy to host a mailing list on my server (which is
> available 24/7), if you think there is a real need or desire.
> 
> --
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> 1024D/FE6F2AFD   88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7  66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD
>  - Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org
>  - MandrakeSoft, Inc. Security  www.linux-mandrake.com
> 
> Current Linux kernel 2.4.1-15mdk uptime: 10 days 4 hours 58 minutes.

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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-26 Thread John

> <= http://www.kompukit.com =>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 7110071
> Personal WebServer:   http://kompukit.dyndns.org
> WebDesigner:  http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns
> (Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am)
> 
> 

The server runs for these hours WHERE? Wouldn't it
make more sense to post these times in UTC or, better
yet, just have the mail server available 7x24?




[expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-26 Thread KompuKit

I've created a new domo list for mandrakeusers...
it's an unofficial help list...
to subscribe:
send email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

with in the body of it, send the command:

subscribe mandrakeusers


please adhere to the server times below, before sending
to this list...
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Personal WebServer:   http://kompukit.dyndns.org
WebDesigner:  http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns
(Personal Server runs: M-F= 7pm-12am & S+S=12pm-12am)