Re: [expert] New video card advice
Thanks so much Todd; it seems so easy. -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) El Sáb 12 Oct 2002 02:49, Todd Flinders escribió: > After you install the GeForce4, download and install the Nvidia drivers for > Mandrake 9.0 either from the Mandrake Club or a contrib directory. Then > run XFdrake or edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 by hand (XFdrake is probably > preferred). Then you should be able to start X. > > When X is running, bring up a terminal and type: > glxinfo | grep render > > You should see: > direct rendering: Yes > > On Friday 11 October 2002 04:41 pm, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I have decided what video card buy: a NVIDIA Geforce4; I have seen 5 > > different models: > > > > GeForce4 MX 460 > > GeForce4 MX 440 w/AGP 8x > > GeForce4 MX 440 > > GeForce4 MX 440-SE > > GeForce4 MX 420 > > > > All with 64MB Ram, being the first the most powerfull. -- > > > > Does anyone have experienced with one of this card and Mandrake 8.2 or > > 9.0? > > > > Could you recommend me any of them? > > > > Is possible with a 9.0 installed using a Voodoo3 3000 change the video > > card and install the new one or do I need to install again Mandrake 9, > > then the NVIDIa files and then the Config XFree86 files changes? > > > > Thanks a lot in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New video card advice
After you install the GeForce4, download and install the Nvidia drivers for Mandrake 9.0 either from the Mandrake Club or a contrib directory. Then run XFdrake or edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 by hand (XFdrake is probably preferred). Then you should be able to start X. When X is running, bring up a terminal and type: glxinfo | grep render You should see: direct rendering: Yes On Friday 11 October 2002 04:41 pm, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: > Dear friends, > I have decided what video card buy: a NVIDIA Geforce4; I have seen 5 > different models: > > GeForce4 MX 460 > GeForce4 MX 440 w/AGP 8x > GeForce4 MX 440 > GeForce4 MX 440-SE > GeForce4 MX 420 > > All with 64MB Ram, being the first the most powerfull. -- > > Does anyone have experienced with one of this card and Mandrake 8.2 or 9.0? > > Could you recommend me any of them? > > Is possible with a 9.0 installed using a Voodoo3 3000 change the video card > and install the new one or do I need to install again Mandrake 9, then the > NVIDIa files and then the Config XFree86 files changes? > > Thanks a lot in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New video card advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a G4 Ti4200. I just replaced my ATI Radeon DDR with it and the new card is great. I built and installed the latest NVidia drivers (RPM) on my Mandrake 8.2 system and it works beautifully. Very fast. Also, all the opengl apps/games that were crapping out or crashing X with the Radeon work without hitch now (I believe there must be a Radeon-based driver issue somewhere). praedor On Friday 11 October 2002 06:41 pm, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: > Dear friends, > I have decided what video card buy: a NVIDIA Geforce4; I have seen 5 > different models: > > GeForce4 MX 460 > GeForce4 MX 440 w/AGP 8x > GeForce4 MX 440 > GeForce4 MX 440-SE > GeForce4 MX 420 [...] > > Does anyone have experienced with one of this card and Mandrake 8.2 or 9.0? - -- Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor...the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded with patriotism, will offer up all their rights unto the leader and gladly so. --unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9p2Un1i/6R1B/Yh0RAoMjAJ0Vb502Z4luNRrjubGw629QbbLX5gCfUL9k B7MwSKO7908g8AVrHsBwnws= =5Ygv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] New video card advice
Dear friends, I have decided what video card buy: a NVIDIA Geforce4; I have seen 5 different models: GeForce4 MX 460 GeForce4 MX 440 w/AGP 8x GeForce4 MX 440 GeForce4 MX 440-SE GeForce4 MX 420 All with 64MB Ram, being the first the most powerfull. -- Does anyone have experienced with one of this card and Mandrake 8.2 or 9.0? Could you recommend me any of them? Is possible with a 9.0 installed using a Voodoo3 3000 change the video card and install the new one or do I need to install again Mandrake 9, then the NVIDIa files and then the Config XFree86 files changes? Thanks a lot in advance -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New video card advice
I have a NVIDIA Geforce 2 200MX and in another box a Geforce 1. Both go smooth and fast in Windows (whatever-version) and linux. The only thing you have to do is replace Mandrake nvidia driver with the nvidia's one to be able to have acceleration, TV out and this kind of nice things. There is a clear "guide for donkeys" (easy, as I got it... after some effort, hehehe O;-) The only thing I didn't get fully working is to get TV output and normal PC monitor independent (when I activate TV out, I get the same picture in my monitor as in my TV). Appart from that, not a complain. Prices have come down, so if you finally go for nvidia I would get a 64 MB DDR (it is a bit faster), maybe a Geforce 4. I think there was a good graphic board comparison at tomshardware, and it should suit you as their perfomance in linux is similar to windows. El dom, 06-10-2002 a las 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > Dear friends, > > My son would like powerfull games runing in my double Win98/Mandrake 9.0 > desktop computer and my wonderfull Voodoo3 3000 is now having some > problems to run properly some of the games hi likes. > > Conclusion: I am thinking about a new video card but, of course I like > one that can run well, including DRI, under both OS (I don't wont lose > my Chromium, Quake III, Tuxracer and so on games under linux). > > I have heard about TNT2, Geforce, Geforce2, Geforce3, Ati Radeon, > Matrox.. and I am very confused. It should be a card with at least > 32 Mb Ram, AGP conection, DRI (aceleration) but I need your advice; > I know that some Nvidia are very good, including TV-output utilities, > but the modules are just binaries; ATI seems, at least until now, to be > more related with the Open Source world and also some of them have > tv-output utilities > > Probably there are lots of expert-list members and people of the > mandrake team > that have good experiencies runing Mandrake 9.0 and some of those cards. > Please, could you help me to select one. > > Thanks so much in advance > > Francisco Alcaraz > Murcia (Spain) > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Diego Dominguez __/\__ | | Andalucia /\ Spain \/ |__ __| \/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger Nueva versión: Webcam, voz, y mucho más ¡Gratis! Descárgalo ya desde http://messenger.yahoo.es Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New video card advice
Hi, I don't know what problems you're having with your Voodoo but I must say thay my Voodoo3 3000 TV out is better than ever. I use 3D accel for visualising molecules and so on. About games, I tested only Tuxracer and it worked wonderfully! I'd suggest you take a second chance with your Voodoo. On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear friends, > > My son would like powerfull games runing in my double Win98/Mandrake 9.0 > desktop computer and my wonderfull Voodoo3 3000 is now having some > problems to run properly some of the games hi likes. > > Conclusion: I am thinking about a new video card but, of course I like > one that can run well, including DRI, under both OS (I don't wont lose > my Chromium, Quake III, Tuxracer and so on games under linux). > > I have heard about TNT2, Geforce, Geforce2, Geforce3, Ati Radeon, > Matrox.. and I am very confused. It should be a card with at least > 32 Mb Ram, AGP conection, DRI (aceleration) but I need your advice; > I know that some Nvidia are very good, including TV-output utilities, > but the modules are just binaries; ATI seems, at least until now, to be > more related with the Open Source world and also some of them have > tv-output utilities > > Probably there are lots of expert-list members and people of the > mandrake team > that have good experiencies runing Mandrake 9.0 and some of those cards. > Please, could you help me to select one. > > Thanks so much in advance > > Francisco Alcaraz > Murcia (Spain) > > > > -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Re: [expert] New video card advice
Thank you Kiran; Yes, Radeon 9700 seems to be the fastets card but probably is apropriate for image-professional and the support under linux might still be defficient. Perhaps for me could be good an intermediate Nvidia; I think 64Mb Ram could be enought form me; I could buy a better and expensive card, but I would never use most of the last characteristic, so why to pay more for utilities I will never use?. Thanks a lot for your very interesting e-mail Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Mensaje Original - Remitente: Kiran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fecha: Lunes, Octubre 7, 2002 0:04 am Asunto: Re: [expert] New video card advice > The voodoo 3 3000 is now an old card (works fine, but old) my > suggestionwould be to figure out how much you want to invest in a > video card and > well... choose from there. From my experience (perhaps limited) nVidia > seems to have better drivers for Linux, but my experience with ATI is > limited to older cards. I heard the Radeon 9700 is the fastest card on > the market now, but like all things wait a while and its obsolete (see > voodoo 3 3000). If I where a rich man I wouldn't have to judge > price/performance I would just buy the best when it came out but... > > --- > Kiran > > On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > My son would like powerfull games runing in my double > Win98/Mandrake 9.0 > > desktop computer and my wonderfull Voodoo3 3000 is now having some > > problems to run properly some of the games hi likes. > > > > Conclusion: I am thinking about a new video card but, of course I > like> one that can run well, including DRI, under both OS (I don't > wont lose > > my Chromium, Quake III, Tuxracer and so on games under linux). > > > > I have heard about TNT2, Geforce, Geforce2, Geforce3, Ati Radeon, > > Matrox.. and I am very confused. It should be a card with at > least> 32 Mb Ram, AGP conection, DRI (aceleration) but I need > your advice; > > I know that some Nvidia are very good, including TV-output > utilities,> but the modules are just binaries; ATI seems, at least > until now, to be > > more related with the Open Source world and also some of them have > > tv-output utilities > > > > Probably there are lots of expert-list members and people of the > > mandrake team > > that have good experiencies runing Mandrake 9.0 and some of those > cards.> Please, could you help me to select one. > > > > Thanks so much in advance > > > > Francisco Alcaraz > > Murcia (Spain) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New video card advice
The voodoo 3 3000 is now an old card (works fine, but old) my suggestion would be to figure out how much you want to invest in a video card and well... choose from there. From my experience (perhaps limited) nVidia seems to have better drivers for Linux, but my experience with ATI is limited to older cards. I heard the Radeon 9700 is the fastest card on the market now, but like all things wait a while and its obsolete (see voodoo 3 3000). If I where a rich man I wouldn't have to judge price/performance I would just buy the best when it came out but... --- Kiran On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear friends, > > My son would like powerfull games runing in my double Win98/Mandrake 9.0 > desktop computer and my wonderfull Voodoo3 3000 is now having some > problems to run properly some of the games hi likes. > > Conclusion: I am thinking about a new video card but, of course I like > one that can run well, including DRI, under both OS (I don't wont lose > my Chromium, Quake III, Tuxracer and so on games under linux). > > I have heard about TNT2, Geforce, Geforce2, Geforce3, Ati Radeon, > Matrox.. and I am very confused. It should be a card with at least > 32 Mb Ram, AGP conection, DRI (aceleration) but I need your advice; > I know that some Nvidia are very good, including TV-output utilities, > but the modules are just binaries; ATI seems, at least until now, to be > more related with the Open Source world and also some of them have > tv-output utilities > > Probably there are lots of expert-list members and people of the > mandrake team > that have good experiencies runing Mandrake 9.0 and some of those cards. > Please, could you help me to select one. > > Thanks so much in advance > > Francisco Alcaraz > Murcia (Spain) > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New video card advice (plus tv card info)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gabriel Phoenix wrote: > I am looking for TV tuner card + video card (probably Nivida) combo > instead of an all in one. Anyone have experiences there? What works and > doesn't work? > I run a Matrox G550 and a Hauppauge WinTV and they work well. It also worked well using other Matrox cards such as G200, Millenium and Millenium II. Some have been PCI and some AGP. Always with a 440BX chipset on the MoBo. - -- KevinO Matz's Law: A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE9oJ4yjBS1mMJB+bQRAnCRAJ9Dv6MFy2+KNl3llD8dN1s1ZNcPlQCgmRTQ 22pBNl9qW+Syigo3P3ZkqDQ= =hCPK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New video card advice (plus tv card info)
On Sunday 06 October 2002 09:01 am, you wrote: > On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 06:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > My son would like powerfull games runing in my double Win98/Mandrake 9.0 > > desktop computer and my wonderfull Voodoo3 3000 is now having some > > problems to run properly some of the games hi likes. > > > > Conclusion: I am thinking about a new video card but, of course I like > > one that can run well, including DRI, under both OS (I don't wont lose > > my Chromium, Quake III, Tuxracer and so on games under linux). > > > > I have heard about TNT2, Geforce, Geforce2, Geforce3, Ati Radeon, > > Matrox.. and I am very confused. It should be a card with at least > > 32 Mb Ram, AGP conection, DRI (aceleration) but I need your advice; > > I know that some Nvidia are very good, including TV-output utilities, > > but the modules are just binaries; ATI seems, at least until now, to be > > more related with the Open Source world and also some of them have > > tv-output utilities > > > > Probably there are lots of expert-list members and people of the > > mandrake team > > that have good experiencies runing Mandrake 9.0 and some of those cards. > > Please, could you help me to select one. > > > > Thanks so much in advance > > > > Francisco Alcaraz > > Murcia (Spain) > > Sorry for tagging on to this message but this is information I am > looking for plus... > > I am looking for TV tuner card + video card (probably Nivida) combo > instead of an all in one. Anyone have experiences there? What works and > doesn't work? > > Thanks > > gabriel any of the "happaugge winTV" cards and any good video card, as long as you have a mobo chipset that "correctly" supports pci timing specs. (ALI-1 ALI-magic and some VIA (I think it was a 686b southbrige, but I ain't sure about that) admit that they don't work. the question is more the Mobo Chipset and TV card than the video card and TVcard, IMHO Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New video card advice (plus tv card info)
On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 06:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear friends, > > My son would like powerfull games runing in my double Win98/Mandrake 9.0 > desktop computer and my wonderfull Voodoo3 3000 is now having some > problems to run properly some of the games hi likes. > > Conclusion: I am thinking about a new video card but, of course I like > one that can run well, including DRI, under both OS (I don't wont lose > my Chromium, Quake III, Tuxracer and so on games under linux). > > I have heard about TNT2, Geforce, Geforce2, Geforce3, Ati Radeon, > Matrox.. and I am very confused. It should be a card with at least > 32 Mb Ram, AGP conection, DRI (aceleration) but I need your advice; > I know that some Nvidia are very good, including TV-output utilities, > but the modules are just binaries; ATI seems, at least until now, to be > more related with the Open Source world and also some of them have > tv-output utilities > > Probably there are lots of expert-list members and people of the > mandrake team > that have good experiencies runing Mandrake 9.0 and some of those cards. > Please, could you help me to select one. > > Thanks so much in advance > > Francisco Alcaraz > Murcia (Spain) Sorry for tagging on to this message but this is information I am looking for plus... I am looking for TV tuner card + video card (probably Nivida) combo instead of an all in one. Anyone have experiences there? What works and doesn't work? Thanks gabriel signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] New video card advice
On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 05:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > but the modules are just binaries; ATI seems, at least until now, to be > more related with the Open Source world and also some of them have > tv-output utilities oh, yeah, probably no one has an opinion on this. if you browse the archives of this list or any other OSS-type list or site, you'll see plenty of debate on this issue. IIRC correctly, the main argument against ATI and for nVidia is that ATI's drivers are community developed because ATI is not supportive to the Community, and nVidia provides relatively high quality binaries, which is rare. And when you consider windows drivers are almost never released as source (excluding creative, of course)... There are good arguments for nVidia to open up their source, but it seems like there are ideological flaws with the way each company deals with drivers. I think in the end, any card post-GeForce2, ATI or nVidia is gonna really fly on just about whatever you throw at it for a while to some. Read some reviews and make a choice, I think either way you're gonna be pleased with a new vid card. anandtech and tomshardware both do reviews with way too much info for the common man (c), but they are well respected and thorough, and tend to show >=GeForce2 on top. But like I said, either is gonna give great performance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] New video card advice
Dear friends, My son would like powerfull games runing in my double Win98/Mandrake 9.0 desktop computer and my wonderfull Voodoo3 3000 is now having some problems to run properly some of the games hi likes. Conclusion: I am thinking about a new video card but, of course I like one that can run well, including DRI, under both OS (I don't wont lose my Chromium, Quake III, Tuxracer and so on games under linux). I have heard about TNT2, Geforce, Geforce2, Geforce3, Ati Radeon, Matrox.. and I am very confused. It should be a card with at least 32 Mb Ram, AGP conection, DRI (aceleration) but I need your advice; I know that some Nvidia are very good, including TV-output utilities, but the modules are just binaries; ATI seems, at least until now, to be more related with the Open Source world and also some of them have tv-output utilities Probably there are lots of expert-list members and people of the mandrake team that have good experiencies runing Mandrake 9.0 and some of those cards. Please, could you help me to select one. Thanks so much in advance Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] New video card advice
Dear friends, My son would like powerfull games runing in my double Win98/Mandrake 9.0 desktop computer and my wonderfull Voodoo3 3000 is now having some problems to run properly some of the games hi likes. Conclusion: I am thinking about a new video card but, of course I like one that can run well, including DRI, under both OS (I don't wont lose my Chromium, Quake III, Tuxracer and so on games under linux). I have heard about TNT2, Geforce, Geforce2, Geforce3, Ati Radeon, Matrox.. and I am very confused. It should be a card with at least 32 Mb Ram, AGP conection, DRI (aceleration) but I need your advice; I know that some Nvidia are very good, including TV-output utilities, but the modules are just binaries; ATI seems, at least until now, to be more related with the Open Source world and also some of them have tv-output utilities Probably there are lots of expert-list members and people of the mandrake team that have good experiencies runing Mandrake 9.0 and some of those cards. Please, could you help me to select one. Thanks so much in advance Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
