Re: [expert] Not so graceful exit from Word97/Wine

2001-05-22 Thread Dave Sherman

Benjamin,

Congratulations on finally getting wine to run Word 97. It sounds like it 
was a valiant effort and noble experiment, but perhaps not worth pursuing 
at this time. I am thining Codeweavers might find documentation of your 
efforts interesting, perhaps even helpful in their development.

Dave

On Tuesday 22 May 2001 02:52, thus spake Benjamin Sher:
> Dear friends:
>
>  First, my thanks again to all of you who took out time from their busy
> schedules to respond to my Word97/Wine query.
>
> I added all of my Windows True Type fonts to Linux. You do that
> automatically in LM 8.0 (available since LM 7.1 or 7.2) in K, 
> Configuration, Other, Drakfont. Just select all of your Windows fonts,
> click OK and, bingo, they are now part of LM 8.0.
>
> I decided to repeat this process (guessing correctly that I had to do
> this again AFTER installing Wine and I was right!). I went back to
> MSWord right afterwards and saw no font error messages (the infamous
> trebuchet font message) during launch this time and found all of my TT
> fonts there, every one of them, even the Cyrillic fonts (I am a Russian
> translator). Amazing.
>
> I did not see any icon issues. Remember that I chose all native dlls,
> where possible and for Window mode: Desktop = 1024 x 768. The perfect
> choice, I think. MS Word appeared in half-size. I then expanded it and
> because of the desktop size, it looked for all the world just like the
> real thing.
>
> Well, I did a little more research at Wine headquarters
> (http://www.winehq.org) under Search: Word97, etc. I found from the
> correspondence that no one has succeeded in getting Word97 to work in
> anything even close to a satisfactory way. I was lucky to be able to use
> my mouse and keyboard and even print preview but no printing, no saving,
> and no other menu entries were really accessible except the one that was
> put there by Wine itself. So, perhaps the man (Jim) from
> codeweavers-wine tech support was right after all.
>
> So, unless Wine makes dramatic progress or someone has the magic key, I
> think I'll just consider this an interesting experiment. Let's hope
> Codeweavers or Wine itself succeed in making it work in time for Wine
> 1.0 or whenever. Until such time, I bid this project my fond adieu.
>
> All my thanks again for your kind help.
>
> Benjamin

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Re: [expert] Not so graceful exit from Word97/Wine

2001-05-22 Thread Michael Scottaline



Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Well, I did a little more research at Wine headquarters 

> (http://www.winehq.org) under Search: Word97, etc. I found from the 

> correspondence that no one has succeeded in getting Word97 to work in 

> anything even close to a satisfactory way. I was lucky to be able to use my 

> mouse and keyboard and even print preview but no printing, no saving, and no 

> other menu entries were really accessible except the one that was put there 

> by Wine itself. So, perhaps the man (Jim) from codeweavers-wine tech support 

> was right after all.

> 

> So, unless Wine makes dramatic progress or someone has the magic key, I think 

> I'll just consider this an interesting experiment. Let's hope Codeweavers or 

> Wine itself succeed in making it work in time for Wine 1.0 or whenever. Until 

> such time, I bid this project my fond adieu.

> 

> All my thanks again for your kind help.

===
Hi Benjamin,
 Sounds as if you made a valiant effort.  Thanks for sharing your experiences with 
us.
It seems to me that any adjustments that might need to be made in SO when opening a 
Word .doc (I very rarely need to make any), would require less
effort than fighting w/ Wine at this point.
Abiword works fairly well w/ rather simple .doc documents,
but is much less effective w/ anything complex (columns, tables, etc.)
Good Effort, Benjamin,
Mike


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[expert] Not so graceful exit from Word97/Wine

2001-05-22 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

 First, my thanks again to all of you who took out time from their busy 
schedules to respond to my Word97/Wine query.

I added all of my Windows True Type fonts to Linux. You do that automatically 
in LM 8.0 (available since LM 7.1 or 7.2) in K,  Configuration, Other, 
Drakfont. Just select all of your Windows fonts, click OK and, bingo, they 
are now part of LM 8.0.

I decided to repeat this process (guessing correctly that I had to do this 
again AFTER installing Wine and I was right!). I went back to MSWord right 
afterwards and saw no font error messages (the infamous trebuchet font 
message) during launch this time and found all of my TT fonts there, every 
one of them, even the Cyrillic fonts (I am a Russian translator). Amazing.

I did not see any icon issues. Remember that I chose all native dlls, where 
possible and for Window mode: Desktop = 1024 x 768. The perfect choice, I 
think. MS Word appeared in half-size. I then expanded it and because of the 
desktop size, it looked for all the world just like the real thing.

Well, I did a little more research at Wine headquarters 
(http://www.winehq.org) under Search: Word97, etc. I found from the 
correspondence that no one has succeeded in getting Word97 to work in 
anything even close to a satisfactory way. I was lucky to be able to use my 
mouse and keyboard and even print preview but no printing, no saving, and no 
other menu entries were really accessible except the one that was put there 
by Wine itself. So, perhaps the man (Jim) from codeweavers-wine tech support 
was right after all.

So, unless Wine makes dramatic progress or someone has the magic key, I think 
I'll just consider this an interesting experiment. Let's hope Codeweavers or 
Wine itself succeed in making it work in time for Wine 1.0 or whenever. Until 
such time, I bid this project my fond adieu.

All my thanks again for your kind help.

Benjamin


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