Re: [expert] OT: Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???
Rob Blomquist wrote: Yesterday, I went out and innocently bought an 80Gb drive for a little server I was planning on rebuilding. So I swapped the components from the P-166 into the AMD-K6/2-450 box (FIC VIA-503+ mobo), connected up the drives, and booted into problems. Finally, I was able to have the BIOS detect it as a 8.4Gb disk, but no bigger. The 3rd drive in this box is a 15Gb that is detected and runs great. I have been reading Mark Minasi's 2003 PC Upgrade and Maintenence Guide and he talks about the addressing problems in the IDE/ATA BIOS space. Then he goes on to talking about how autotranslation works to circumvent the BIOS and allow bigger drives to run by the OS detecting the drive itself, and handling the addressing without BIOS support . MInasi says that autotranslation is part of some UNIXes. Basically, I am wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, as when I was able to run this disk as 8.4 Gb, the kernel was able to report the disk model number back during boot. I am now wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, so that if I set up the BIOS correctly, the drive could be detected and run? Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Rob I have one of these boards and use the BIOS version JE4333 available at http://www.fic.com.tw/support/motherboard/faq.aspx?model_id=104#qid210 that enables this board to see drives 65gig and larger. Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] OT: Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???
Yesterday, I went out and innocently bought an 80Gb drive for a little server I was planning on rebuilding. So I swapped the components from the P-166 into the AMD-K6/2-450 box (FIC VIA-503+ mobo), connected up the drives, and booted into problems. Finally, I was able to have the BIOS detect it as a 8.4Gb disk, but no bigger. The 3rd drive in this box is a 15Gb that is detected and runs great. I have been reading Mark Minasi's 2003 PC Upgrade and Maintenence Guide and he talks about the addressing problems in the IDE/ATA BIOS space. Then he goes on to talking about how autotranslation works to circumvent the BIOS and allow bigger drives to run by the OS detecting the drive itself, and handling the addressing without BIOS support . MInasi says that autotranslation is part of some UNIXes. Basically, I am wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, as when I was able to run this disk as 8.4 Gb, the kernel was able to report the disk model number back during boot. I am now wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, so that if I set up the BIOS correctly, the drive could be detected and run? Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???
On Sunday 12 October 2003 09:55 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: Yesterday, I went out and innocently bought an 80Gb drive for a little server I was planning on rebuilding. So I swapped the components from the P-166 into the AMD-K6/2-450 box (FIC VIA-503+ mobo), connected up the drives, and booted into problems. Finally, I was able to have the BIOS detect it as a 8.4Gb disk, but no bigger. The 3rd drive in this box is a 15Gb that is detected and runs great. I have been reading Mark Minasi's 2003 PC Upgrade and Maintenence Guide and he talks about the addressing problems in the IDE/ATA BIOS space. Then he goes on to talking about how autotranslation works to circumvent the BIOS and allow bigger drives to run by the OS detecting the drive itself, and handling the addressing without BIOS support . MInasi says that autotranslation is part of some UNIXes. Basically, I am wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, as when I was able to run this disk as 8.4 Gb, the kernel was able to report the disk model number back during boot. I am now wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, so that if I set up the BIOS correctly, the drive could be detected and run? I believe the answer is yes, that the Linux kernel will be able to address the entire drive. You can test this simply by trying it though, I don't think you have anything to lose. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 19:26, Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 12 October 2003 09:55 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: Yesterday, I went out and innocently bought an 80Gb drive for a little server I was planning on rebuilding. So I swapped the components from the P-166 into the AMD-K6/2-450 box (FIC VIA-503+ mobo), connected up the drives, and booted into problems. Finally, I was able to have the BIOS detect it as a 8.4Gb disk, but no bigger. The 3rd drive in this box is a 15Gb that is detected and runs great. I have been reading Mark Minasi's 2003 PC Upgrade and Maintenence Guide and he talks about the addressing problems in the IDE/ATA BIOS space. Then he goes on to talking about how autotranslation works to circumvent the BIOS and allow bigger drives to run by the OS detecting the drive itself, and handling the addressing without BIOS support . MInasi says that autotranslation is part of some UNIXes. Basically, I am wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, as when I was able to run this disk as 8.4 Gb, the kernel was able to report the disk model number back during boot. I am now wondering if Linux supports autotranslation, so that if I set up the BIOS correctly, the drive could be detected and run? I believe the answer is yes, that the Linux kernel will be able to address the entire drive. You can test this simply by trying it though, I don't think you have anything to lose. Shortcut... download Morphix (a mini knoppix) or the lnxBBC distro. put it on a CD and boot from it with the drive in the box. Then see what Linux sees as far as drive size etc goes. This way you know before you go. Second. Update the BIOS I'm using some ASUS K-7 mobo's here and the award bios update was worth it. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: Big Disks, Old Mobos and Autotranslation???
On September 1993 plus 3693 days Rob Blomquist wrote: Yesterday, I went out and innocently bought an 80Gb drive for a little server I was planning on rebuilding. snip I have an old pentium here with a couple of 80gig HDs and a 1gig HD...all you need to do is install in the small disk so the computer boots from it...once linux is running, it'll see the 80gig HD without a problem...I actually remember (and my roommate confirmed just now) that we have the 80gig disks marked as non-existant in the BIOS...linux checks the IDE controllers while booting and doesn't care about what the BIOS says. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
