Re: [expert] Opera-BETA really an ALPHA

1999-12-25 Thread Davor Cengija

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Ramon Gandia wrote:

>WH Bouterse wrote:
>> 
>> Yes it is almost as buggy as Mozilla releases,
>> but at least they got it out the door
>> for public testing. !!!
>
>Well, it might work with Mandrake 6.1, but it definetely
>fails to run on Mandrake 5.3 and RedHat 5.2

{mandrake}[opera-19991224]$ ldd opera
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40008000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40026000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400d5000)
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 (0x400e2000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40128000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000)
{mandrake}[opera-19991224]$ 
{mandrake}[opera-19991224]$ file opera
opera: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked (uses 
shared libs), not stripped
{mandrake}[opera-19991224]$
>
>When I get home tonite I will try it on my LM 6.1 box
>and see what it does.

Works on Mandrake 6.1  pretty fine (except the opera internal
bugs).
>
>Public Betas are good, that is how they get feedback.
>Like my problem.  They can either supply libc6.1 or 
>libc6.2 versions, or they can statically link the
>libraries and bloat their code by beacoup megabytes.

{mandrake}[opera-19991224]$ ls -l opera
-rwxr-xr-x1 davordavor 5285076 Dec 23 16:08 opera
{mandrake}[opera-19991224]$ 

It's 5M now, statically linked version could be 10M or more...
way to much.
>
>PS:  the KDE browser as well as KMail simply Suck.

Browser is OK, but it has some very annoying 'features' - form
submitting procedure, for example.
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Davor Cengija
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Re: [expert] Opera-BETA really an ALPHA

1999-12-25 Thread Davor Cengija

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, WH Bouterse wrote:

>Yes it is almost as buggy as Mozilla releases,
>but at least they got it out the door 
>for public testing. !!!

True. Very buggy, almost unuseable. But it seems we're going
to get another pretty useful browser.
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Davor Cengija
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Re: [expert] Opera-BETA really an ALPHA

1999-12-24 Thread Ramon Gandia

WH Bouterse wrote:
> 
> Yes it is almost as buggy as Mozilla releases,
> but at least they got it out the door
> for public testing. !!!

Well, it might work with Mandrake 6.1, but it definetely
fails to run on Mandrake 5.3 and RedHat 5.2

When I get home tonite I will try it on my LM 6.1 box
and see what it does.

Public Betas are good, that is how they get feedback.
Like my problem.  They can either supply libc6.1 or 
libc6.2 versions, or they can statically link the
libraries and bloat their code by beacoup megabytes.

I sure wish that Netscape had just upgraded and fixed
their 3.04 version.  It was trim, slim, fast, and the 
email is still a joy.  Communicator was -and still is-
a bloated thing geared chiefly to put advertising on your
desktop.

Lets give Opera some slack and see how they shape up in the
next few months.

PS:  the KDE browser as well as KMail simply Suck.

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[expert] Opera-BETA really an ALPHA

1999-12-24 Thread WH Bouterse

Yes it is almost as buggy as Mozilla releases,
but at least they got it out the door 
for public testing. !!!

William Bouterse
Juneau Alaska