Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.3 for 9.1 : go or no-go ?

2003-09-12 Thread AAW
On Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:27 am, Praedor Tempus wrote:
> My desktop is lightening fast (Athlon XP2700+, 256MB
> RAM, NVIDIA Ti4200) and of course KDE starts quickly,
> at least as fast as the previous KDE version.  I HAVE
> run into an intermittent problem, however, and I
> assume it is a memory leak in the OpenGL screensavers.
>  I would set one of the nifty new OpenGL screensavers
> to work and it would be fine for a while (a day, a
> couple days) but then I would find the system locked
> up hard.  No keyboard inputs possible and the system
> would not accept a network connection so I could try
> to kill X remotely.  I have had to hard reboot.  I
> have since switched to just "blank screen" and have
> thus far not had any problems...of course, I could go
> home today and find my system locked up again but in
> any case, none of this occurred until after I updated
> my KDE.

This is strictly a shot in the dark, but you might try reinstalling the 
proprietary NVIDIA drivers (if you have them installed). I've seen that 
behavior myself in the past and eventually traced it to having 
installed a Mesa rpm (libMesaGL1, IIRC) after installing the drivers. 
The rpm was adding back OpenGL .so files that NVIDIA's install routine 
had moved out of way to avoid conflicts.

HTH,
Arn




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Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.3 for 9.1 : go or no-go ?

2003-09-11 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Praedor Tempus wrote:

Don't know if it's "just me" but...I installed the the
Club 3.1.3 rpms on my desktop, and the texstar rpms on
my laptop.  The texstar KDE 3.1.3 system is gawd-awful
slow on my laptop, much slower than the original KDE
that came with 9.1, at least with regards to initial
startup.  Takes a LNG time for my desktop to
finally come up (Thinkpad 1412, Celeron 366, 128MB
RAM). 

My desktop is lightening fast (Athlon XP2700+, 256MB
RAM, NVIDIA Ti4200) and of course KDE starts quickly,
at least as fast as the previous KDE version.  I HAVE
run into an intermittent problem, however, and I
assume it is a memory leak in the OpenGL screensavers.
I would set one of the nifty new OpenGL screensavers
to work and it would be fine for a while (a day, a
couple days) but then I would find the system locked
up hard.  No keyboard inputs possible and the system
would not accept a network connection so I could try
to kill X remotely.  I have had to hard reboot.  I
have since switched to just "blank screen" and have
thus far not had any problems...of course, I could go
home today and find my system locked up again but in
any case, none of this occurred until after I updated
my KDE.
praedor
--- Brant Fitzsimmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
 

Alex Fisher wrote:

   

Greg Meyer wrote:



 

On Saturday 06 September 2003 06:47 am, Stefano
   

Pogliani wrote:
   

  

   

Would it be ok now to migrate to KDE 3.1.3 for
 

MDK 9.1 or is it still
   

"unstable" ?
In case of "yes", which is the most stable source
 

: TexStar or the Mdk
   

Club ?



 

I am using Texstar's packages and they work great.
   

Unfortunately, I think
   

the qa on them is better than those packages
   

available from Club.
   

  

   

And where do I get these packages?

 

Go here http://www.zarb.org/~nanardon/ and set up
your urpmi sources.  
Make sure you get the Texstar resource.

--
Brant Fitzsimmons
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are you sure the lockups can be attributed to KDE?  You said you tried 
the OpenGL screensavers so it appears that you have installed the nVidia 
drivers from nVidia.  I had strange lockups all the time until I 
re-installed 9.1 and didn't re-install the nVidia drivers.  I haven't 
even tried the drivers again because of the newfound stability I am 
experiencing.  Same KDE, no lockups.  I'm only forced to shutdown when a 
thunderstorm comes through.

Maybe you could try the original drivers that come with Mandrake to rule 
out the possibility of a video problem.

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Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.3 for 9.1 : go or no-go ?

2003-09-11 Thread Praedor Tempus
Don't know if it's "just me" but...I installed the the
Club 3.1.3 rpms on my desktop, and the texstar rpms on
my laptop.  The texstar KDE 3.1.3 system is gawd-awful
slow on my laptop, much slower than the original KDE
that came with 9.1, at least with regards to initial
startup.  Takes a LNG time for my desktop to
finally come up (Thinkpad 1412, Celeron 366, 128MB
RAM). 

My desktop is lightening fast (Athlon XP2700+, 256MB
RAM, NVIDIA Ti4200) and of course KDE starts quickly,
at least as fast as the previous KDE version.  I HAVE
run into an intermittent problem, however, and I
assume it is a memory leak in the OpenGL screensavers.
 I would set one of the nifty new OpenGL screensavers
to work and it would be fine for a while (a day, a
couple days) but then I would find the system locked
up hard.  No keyboard inputs possible and the system
would not accept a network connection so I could try
to kill X remotely.  I have had to hard reboot.  I
have since switched to just "blank screen" and have
thus far not had any problems...of course, I could go
home today and find my system locked up again but in
any case, none of this occurred until after I updated
my KDE.

praedor
--- Brant Fitzsimmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Alex Fisher wrote:
> 
> >Greg Meyer wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>On Saturday 06 September 2003 06:47 am, Stefano
> Pogliani wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Would it be ok now to migrate to KDE 3.1.3 for
> MDK 9.1 or is it still
> >>>"unstable" ?
> >>>In case of "yes", which is the most stable source
> : TexStar or the Mdk
> >>>Club ?
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>I am using Texstar's packages and they work great.
>  Unfortunately, I think
> >>the qa on them is better than those packages
> available from Club.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >And where do I get these packages?
> >
> 
> Go here http://www.zarb.org/~nanardon/ and set up
> your urpmi sources.  
> Make sure you get the Texstar resource.
> 
> -- 
> Brant Fitzsimmons
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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> 
> Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 |
> http://counter.li.org/
> AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel
> 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk
> KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client
> Uptime:
>  12:10:00 up 4 days, 23:26,  1 user,  load average:
> 0.42, 0.39, 0.27
>
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> 
> "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is
> ridiculed.
> Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is
> accepted as being
> self-evident."
>   -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
> 
> 
> 
> > Want to buy your Pack or Services from
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Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.3 for 9.1 : go or no-go ?

2003-09-11 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Alex Fisher wrote:

Greg Meyer wrote:

 

On Saturday 06 September 2003 06:47 am, Stefano Pogliani wrote:
   

Would it be ok now to migrate to KDE 3.1.3 for MDK 9.1 or is it still
"unstable" ?
In case of "yes", which is the most stable source : TexStar or the Mdk
Club ?
 

I am using Texstar's packages and they work great.  Unfortunately, I think
the qa on them is better than those packages available from Club.
   

And where do I get these packages?

Go here http://www.zarb.org/~nanardon/ and set up your urpmi sources.  
Make sure you get the Texstar resource.

--
Brant Fitzsimmons
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[expert] Re: KDE 3.1.3 for 9.1 : go or no-go ?

2003-09-11 Thread Alex Fisher
Greg Meyer wrote:

> On Saturday 06 September 2003 06:47 am, Stefano Pogliani wrote:
>> Would it be ok now to migrate to KDE 3.1.3 for MDK 9.1 or is it still
>> "unstable" ?
>> In case of "yes", which is the most stable source : TexStar or the Mdk
>> Club ?
>> 
> I am using Texstar's packages and they work great.  Unfortunately, I think
> the qa on them is better than those packages available from Club.

And where do I get these packages?
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