Re: [expert] Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
> > In fact I'm so used to reiserfs being mounted > > notail,noatime > > Allrighty. We'll see how it does tomorrow when i reboot. It does seem to be quieter. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
> Eric from what I've seen and also from Hans' own mouth with the > current version of Rieserfs it's the preferred method. > In fact I'm so used to reiserfs being mounted > notail,noatime Allrighty. We'll see how it does tomorrow when i reboot. I'm too sleepy right now... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 09:18, Eric Huff wrote: > > I had a similar effect some time ago on a SuSE box. In my case I > > could make that repeating disk access to stop by mounting that > > specific *reiserfs* partition with the 'noatime' option. > > > Is there any problem with setting the fs to noatime? It keeps the > file access time from being updated. > Do any programs rely on that? > > I'll give this a try, too, i think. > > eric Eric from what I've seen and also from Hans' own mouth with the current version of Rieserfs it's the preferred method. Where as not using this is intended to give a faster access time you really have to play around tuning the fs to keep from going nuts. Hans said at a recent lug where he spoke that the next version should do this much more elegantly (I took this to mean it wouldn't drive people nuts.) In fact I'm so used to reiserfs being mounted notail,noatime that like a fool I didn't even ask Bjorn about it. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 05:39, Björn Lundin wrote: > James Sparenberg wrote: > >> > Well, that concludes that Kde really is the culprit, doesn't it. > >> > But what in Kde? > >> > /Björn > >> > > > > err... puncuation would help let me try again. > >> What I see that you use that I don't are, iptables, shorewall, netfs nfs > >> and > >> lisa, linuxconf httpd and atd. I've got nessusd smartd and win4lin, > >> that you don't have. I'm suspicious that Lisa is what is "polling" your > >> HDD but not sure. In my case as well, dm is the only diff between rl 3 > >> and 5. My initial reaction would be, turn off (if possible) the ones > >> you have that I don't, one at a time, then if it doesn't stop the > >> polling, turn it back on and go to the next one. > > Hmm, I removed the ones you don't have, except shorewall, since > I'm directly connected to the internet. Wouldn't want to be without it... > I did shut it off for a minute though, but I still got disc activity every 6 > seconds! I even tried the classical M$ trick (reboot) but still no luck, > but I now finally got rid of some services I don't need, like nfs... > > I also went in to Kde's control center and played with > Compoments|Servicemanager and shut everyting I could off, like KWrite > deamon, and Mount watcher, essentailly everything I could find, but still > no luck > > Everything associated with Lisa is also turned off, on the client side. > > The KAlarm deamon looked suspicouis, but killing it made no difference... > > Starting to kill my processes one by one, starting with 'kded'. > Got lucky, this is the one. Now I can google it, and found: > > " > > kded continually > > accesses the disk about once per second, and as a result, even when > > I'm not "doing anything" so to speak on my computer, my hard drive > > will never spin down. > > I had a similar effect some time ago on a SuSE box. In my case I could > make that repeating disk access to stop by mounting that specific > *reiserfs* partition with the 'noatime' option. > " > > Give this a try... and reboot > > > And YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES > > > That did it :) > > >> As for the 9.1 + texstar combo. Yes love it. That's why my laptop > >> won't be in a hurry to move to 9.2. > > I'm thinking that kernel 2.6 would make me upgrade, so I'll wait for a > stable release that won't make me recompile the kernel. Every time I > tried, I always end up with a new install :( > I'm always doing something wrong! > > Thanks for your patience, all > > /Björn Cool! I may not have had an answer but I hope I helped in finding it. James > > > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
> I had a similar effect some time ago on a SuSE box. In my case I > could make that repeating disk access to stop by mounting that > specific *reiserfs* partition with the 'noatime' option. Is there any problem with setting the fs to noatime? It keeps the file access time from being updated. Do any programs rely on that? I'll give this a try, too, i think. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Noise RESOLVED :))))
James Sparenberg wrote: >> > Well, that concludes that Kde really is the culprit, doesn't it. >> > But what in Kde? >> > /Björn >> > > err... puncuation would help let me try again. >> What I see that you use that I don't are, iptables, shorewall, netfs nfs >> and >> lisa, linuxconf httpd and atd. I've got nessusd smartd and win4lin, >> that you don't have. I'm suspicious that Lisa is what is "polling" your >> HDD but not sure. In my case as well, dm is the only diff between rl 3 >> and 5. My initial reaction would be, turn off (if possible) the ones >> you have that I don't, one at a time, then if it doesn't stop the >> polling, turn it back on and go to the next one. Hmm, I removed the ones you don't have, except shorewall, since I'm directly connected to the internet. Wouldn't want to be without it... I did shut it off for a minute though, but I still got disc activity every 6 seconds! I even tried the classical M$ trick (reboot) but still no luck, but I now finally got rid of some services I don't need, like nfs... I also went in to Kde's control center and played with Compoments|Servicemanager and shut everyting I could off, like KWrite deamon, and Mount watcher, essentailly everything I could find, but still no luck Everything associated with Lisa is also turned off, on the client side. The KAlarm deamon looked suspicouis, but killing it made no difference... Starting to kill my processes one by one, starting with 'kded'. Got lucky, this is the one. Now I can google it, and found: " > kded continually > accesses the disk about once per second, and as a result, even when > I'm not "doing anything" so to speak on my computer, my hard drive > will never spin down. I had a similar effect some time ago on a SuSE box. In my case I could make that repeating disk access to stop by mounting that specific *reiserfs* partition with the 'noatime' option. " Give this a try... and reboot And YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES,YES That did it :) >> As for the 9.1 + texstar combo. Yes love it. That's why my laptop >> won't be in a hurry to move to 9.2. I'm thinking that kernel 2.6 would make me upgrade, so I'll wait for a stable release that won't make me recompile the kernel. Every time I tried, I always end up with a new install :( I'm always doing something wrong! Thanks for your patience, all /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
