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[bascule]

i've looked at 'man xmodmap', to be honest all i can see are ways to get one 
combination of keys to stand in for other combination of keys, i didn't see a 
way to assign 'commands' to keys, am i missing something?

bascule

On Wednesday 16 January 2002 5:12 pm, you wrote:
> So sprach »bascule« am 2002-01-16 um 14:30:34 + :
> > clpboard stuff, but speaking of key-bindings, i could really do with a
> > way of assigning keys to the kmix volume control, something like vol-up =
> > numpad8, vol-down = numpad2 would be good, and a mute toggle would be
> > dandy too:-) oh well...
>
> xmodmap is your friend!  Or, if you're using sawfish, you can even
> adjust that quite simple in the gnome control center.
>
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[kwan]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, mike wrote:

> Of course, with Opera you can just open a new page.  It is funny that
> Konqueror seems to be the only borowser with a button that allows you to
> clear the address box. I wonder why Netscape and Opera don't have it?
>
You can clear the URL field with CTRL-U on both Netscape and Konqueror.
This works in both the "Open Location" dialog and the location field.
Not as handy as a button, but beats the select/delete sequence.




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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[mike]

Of course, with Opera you can just open a new page.  It is funny that 
Konqueror seems to be the only borowser with a button that allows you to 
clear the address box. I wonder why Netscape and Opera don't have it?

mg


On Tuesday 15 January 2002 16:27, Phillip wrote:
> Not to help, just to chime in:
> In order for me to copy from email (Kmail) to browser (usually Opera)
> [to avoid use of Konqueror] I FIRST must erase anything in the loc.
> bar, then use the mouse buttons. Otherwise it does nothing.
> Just a "gripe."
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Tuesday 15 January 2002 01:50 pm, Dave Sherman profoundly uttered:
>
>  On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 10:53, Paul Sue wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Why doesn't copy/cut & paste seem to work consistently?  For
>  > example, why can't I copy from my browser to my Evolution Compose
>  > Message box? Or from my e-mail to my eterm?  I've tried using the
>  > Control keys as well as well as from the menu and the clipboard
>  > icons.
>  >
>  > I think the problem seems to occur under both gnome and kde.
>  >
>  > Thanks foer any suggestions,
>  >
>  > Paul
>
>  Paul,
>
>  I have no such problems, so it may be an issue with your particular
>  install.
>
>  On the other hand (and I think this is more likely), you may be
>  doing it "wrong". For example, the standard X Window method of
>  copying and pasting takes two steps:
>  1. Highlight the text you want to copy. This will automatically
>  place the text in a clipboard buffer.
>  2. Place your cursor where you want to paste the text, and click the
>  middle mouse button. In most programs, you can simply put your mouse
>  pointer where you want to paste, and when you click the middle mouse
>  button, the cursor will automatically move to that position before
>  pasting the text.
>
>  Following the above steps, I was easily able to paste this from
>  Galeon (which is really just Mozilla):
>  http://sildara.dyndns.org/tools/schedule.html
>  and this one from Opera:
>  http://sildara.dyndns.org/tools/schedule.html
>
>  The Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V convention is really a Mac/Windows thing. It
>  is supported by some X Window software (pretty much anything using
>  QT and/or KDE libs, and I think also GTK), but not all. And because
>  different libs even do this Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V stuff differently, those
>  keystroke combinations may not work between some applications. I
>  suspect this is the issue you are running into.
>
>  Just stick with the X Window standard, and you will be fine. I have
>  *never* had a problem with that.
>
>  Dave
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[mike]

You gotta get one, it is great (and more than microsauce makes them now).  I 
guess it should be trivial to get both fingers to work together, but having 
the third button mitigates the fact that I'm a klutz.  And it works with UNIX.

mg



On Tuesday 15 January 2002 14:31, J. Craig Woods wrote:
> At 06:46 PM 1/15/2002 +, Derek Jennings wrote:
> >Are you cutting and pasting the Unix way?
> >Use left mouse button to highlight text and press mouse wheel to paste.
> >
> >It works across almost all Linux apps.
> >
> >derek
>
> That is funny. I have been in UNIX for over 10 years, and I have never
> owned a mouse with a wheel. To the lost soul trying to cut and paste, try
> your keystrokes:
>
> CTRL + C = COPY
> CTRL + V = PASTE
>
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Alexander Skwar]

So sprach »bascule« am 2002-01-16 um 14:30:34 + :
> clpboard stuff, but speaking of key-bindings, i could really do with a way of 
> assigning keys to the kmix volume control, something like vol-up = numpad8, 
> vol-down = numpad2 would be good, and a mute toggle would be dandy too:-) oh 
> well...

xmodmap is your friend!  Or, if you're using sawfish, you can even
adjust that quite simple in the gnome control center.

There I've set a key to increase the volume by having it execute this
command:

aumix -v+10 -S

To decrease volume, I've set:

aumix -v-10 -S

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[bascule]

i must admit that i don't personally have a need for that sort of intense 
clpboard stuff, but speaking of key-bindings, i could really do with a way of 
assigning keys to the kmix volume control, something like vol-up = numpad8, 
vol-down = numpad2 would be good, and a mute toggle would be dandy too:-) oh 
well...

bascule


On Wednesday 16 January 2002 2:08 pm, you wrote:
>
>
> In a more recent email of the same type, I found an interview with the
> developer of some other KDE product that apparently was released earlier
> but not updated recently, and so has not been in the recent releases.
> It is KHotKeys, see http://dforce.sh.cvut.cz/~seli/en/khotkeys/, and the
> developer is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- if we could do anything to encourage him
> to complete it that would be great.
>
> Randy Kramer



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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[bascule]

aha, this is the ticket!

bascule

On Wednesday 16 January 2002 1:57 pm, you wrote:

> Once again, the X standard is your friend. Ctrl-U will delete a single
> line of text, including the text in your URL box. Click the cursor
> there, but DO NOT highlight the URL, then Ctrl-U to delete the text, and
> middle-click the mouse to paste the new URL.
>
> Dave



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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Randy Kramer]

bascule wrote:
> everyone is right of course, except that i wouldn't mind being able to
> highlight/select a useful url when i see one, go to my browser and highlight
> whatever is in the loc bar hit delete and then paste in my new 'find' and not
> what i just deleted, is there no way to make a 'highlighting' of text
> semi-permanent so that the next highlighting doesn't immediately replace it?
> i think 'klipper' might do this for kde apps but i'm thinking of something
> more 'X'y using the keyboard amd mouse buttons?
> 
bascule,

I wrote to the maintainer of klipper with several suggestions along
these lines.  He sounded willing to implement at least one of them (but
perhaps not the way I would have preferred).  I'm hoping we'll see
something in kde3 (something might already be there -- I'm not ususally
successful loading new software, so I usually wait until a new distro
includes it).

The suggestion he seemed most willing to implement was along the lines
of being able to choose when you wanted text to be sent to the klipper
buffer. I was thinking of by requiring c or x, he seemed to
prefer providing an on/off switch of some sort.

My other suggestions involved assigning keyboard macros to the strings
in the buffer, so that, for example you could paste the string in the
first buffer with something like 1, the second buffer with
2, and so on.  (I didn't specify which shortcut keys to use,
ideally it would be configurable.)

Finally, IIRC, I suggested that he give us a means to create permanent
buffers of text with shortcut keys assigned.  (I suggested up to 100 or
more.)

If you think these ideas are worthwhile, you might wish to reinforce my
request.  (I did not put it in bugzilla because bugzilla expects you to
be using one of the more recent versions of KDE (and Klipper), and I was
(am still) using Mandrake 7.2 (with the MandrakeFreq update of around
20010316).

When I find his name and the original email, I'll post again.  (I found
his name in some email I get from kde, announcing things like interviews
with the developers.)

In a more recent email of the same type, I found an interview with the
developer of some other KDE product that apparently was released earlier
but not updated recently, and so has not been in the recent releases. 
It is KHotKeys, see http://dforce.sh.cvut.cz/~seli/en/khotkeys/, and the
developer is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- if we could do anything to encourage him
to complete it that would be great.

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Dave Sherman]

On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 00:48, bascule wrote:
> everyone is right of course, except that i wouldn't mind being able to 
> highlight/select a useful url when i see one, go to my browser and highlight 
> whatever is in the loc bar hit delete and then paste in my new 'find' and not 
> what i just deleted, is there no way to make a 'highlighting' of text 
> semi-permanent so that the next highlighting doesn't immediately replace it?
> i think 'klipper' might do this for kde apps but i'm thinking of something 
> more 'X'y using the keyboard amd mouse buttons?
> 
> bascule

Once again, the X standard is your friend. Ctrl-U will delete a single
line of text, including the text in your URL box. Click the cursor
there, but DO NOT highlight the URL, then Ctrl-U to delete the text, and
middle-click the mouse to paste the new URL.

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Michel Clasquin]

On Wednesday 16 January 2002 08:48, bascule wrote:
> everyone is right of course, except that i wouldn't mind being able to
> highlight/select a useful url when i see one, go to my browser and
> highlight whatever is in the loc bar hit delete and then paste in my new
> 'find' and not what i just deleted, is there no way to make a
> 'highlighting' of text semi-permanent so that the next highlighting
> doesn't immediately replace it? i think 'klipper' might do this for kde
> apps but i'm thinking of something more 'X'y using the keyboard amd
> mouse buttons?

I generally keep a text editor open (nedit, gedit, kedit, take your pick). 
Resize it to just one or two lines and stick it in an unobtrusive corner 
and you can move lines of text back and forth very quickly. Or you can 
look into those "yellow post-it notes" apps - I haven't found one yet that 
works right for me, but the search continues!

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[James Sparenberg]

or press left and right mouse button to simulate the middle button. 
on a non wheel mouse if you are using a Mac MousePray? *grin*

James 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:31:49 -0600
"J. Craig Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 06:46 PM 1/15/2002 +, Derek Jennings wrote:
> >Are you cutting and pasting the Unix way?
> >Use left mouse button to highlight text and press mouse wheel to
paste.
> >
> >It works across almost all Linux apps.
> >
> >derek
> 
> That is funny. I have been in UNIX for over 10 years, and I have
never 
> owned a mouse with a wheel. To the lost soul trying to cut and
paste, try 
> your keystrokes:
> 
> CTRL + C = COPY
> CTRL + V = PASTE
> 
> J. Craig Woods
> UNIX/NT SA
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> 
> 
> 



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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[bascule]

everyone is right of course, except that i wouldn't mind being able to 
highlight/select a useful url when i see one, go to my browser and highlight 
whatever is in the loc bar hit delete and then paste in my new 'find' and not 
what i just deleted, is there no way to make a 'highlighting' of text 
semi-permanent so that the next highlighting doesn't immediately replace it?
i think 'klipper' might do this for kde apps but i'm thinking of something 
more 'X'y using the keyboard amd mouse buttons?

bascule
> >

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> The middle button pastes what you copy to clipboard with
> highlighting--with 3 button emulation (standardly supplied with two
> button mouse drivers) you achieve this by clicking right and left
> buttons with some semblance of simultaneity.
>
> The Middle button means to most browsers when you middle-click a
> hyperlink to "open in a new window".
>
> The wheel just scrolls something which is default equipped with a
> scrollbar.  Some folks think it is useful, but I am not one of them.
>
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Tuesday 15 January 2002 11:16 pm, you wrote:
> At 08:08 PM 1/15/2002 -0500, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> >On Tuesday 15 January 2002 07:03 pm, you wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 18:29, J. Craig Woods wrote:
> > > > After decades of computer work, I am still unsure of why I would need
> > > > a wheel or middle button. Does this kind of junk really do something
> > > > useful?
> > >
> > > Very. For scrolling, especially.
> > >
> > > Once I started using one, I didn't want to go back to non-wheeled.
> >
> >Not only is a wheel mouse a great convenience (especially when scrolling
> >through great long bottom-posted e-mails :^) ), I have found that it
> >reduces the pain from tendons inflamed by too many years of doing this
> > kind of stuff and a ton of pencil pushing. By alternating between the
> > wheel, scroll bars and cursor keys during my computer sessions, I take a
> > lot less ibuprofen. Beer consumption, however, remains essentially
> > constant. Regards,
> >Carroll
>
> You guys have given some great input on this thread. Hell, I am convinced!
> At this point, I am not sure how I have made it without a mouse wheel...
>
> Thanks,
>
> J. Craig Woods
> UNIX/NT SA
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[John Haywood]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:16, you wrote:
> You guys have given some great input on this thread. Hell, I am convinced!
> At this point, I am not sure how I have made it without a mouse wheel...

...and in the interest of completenesss

(or complete & utter overkilll)

get a logitech USB optical scroller & you'll get a red light in the base of 
your mouse, which is *essential* to cut 'n' paste operations!!!

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Phillip]

On Tuesday 15 January 2002 04:40 pm, Dave Sherman profoundly uttered:


They say it is like MS Office' special clipboard 


Yet another "feature" of Mcrap I detest. Pops up and annoys me at the 
most inopportune times.

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[J. Craig Woods]

At 08:08 PM 1/15/2002 -0500, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
>On Tuesday 15 January 2002 07:03 pm, you wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 18:29, J. Craig Woods wrote:
> > > After decades of computer work, I am still unsure of why I would need a
> > > wheel or middle button. Does this kind of junk really do something
> > > useful?
> >
> > Very. For scrolling, especially.
> >
> > Once I started using one, I didn't want to go back to non-wheeled.
>
>Not only is a wheel mouse a great convenience (especially when scrolling
>through great long bottom-posted e-mails :^) ), I have found that it
>reduces the pain from tendons inflamed by too many years of doing this kind
>of stuff and a ton of pencil pushing. By alternating between the wheel,
>scroll bars and cursor keys during my computer sessions, I take a lot less
>ibuprofen. Beer consumption, however, remains essentially constant.
>Regards,
>Carroll

You guys have given some great input on this thread. Hell, I am convinced! 
At this point, I am not sure how I have made it without a mouse wheel...

Thanks,

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Tuesday 15 January 2002 07:03 pm, you wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 18:29, J. Craig Woods wrote:
> > After decades of computer work, I am still unsure of why I would need a
> > wheel or middle button. Does this kind of junk really do something
> > useful?
>
> Very. For scrolling, especially.
>
> Once I started using one, I didn't want to go back to non-wheeled.

Not only is a wheel mouse a great convenience (especially when scrolling 
through great long bottom-posted e-mails :^) ), I have found that it 
reduces the pain from tendons inflamed by too many years of doing this kind 
of stuff and a ton of pencil pushing. By alternating between the wheel, 
scroll bars and cursor keys during my computer sessions, I take a lot less 
ibuprofen. Beer consumption, however, remains essentially constant.
Regards,
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Ken Thompson]

On Tuesday 15 January 2002 04:29 pm, you wrote:
> At 07:43 PM 1/15/2002 +, Derek Jennings wrote:
> >Well if you have no mouse wheel try the middle button..
> >Now you have learned something.
>
> Well I guess I am just plain SOL: I do not have a mouse with a middle
> button, and, no, I did not enable any kind of middle button emulation.
> After decades of computer work, I am still unsure of why I would need a
> wheel or middle button. Does this kind of junk really do something useful?
>
> signed curious,
>
> J. Craig Woods
> UNIX/NT SA
> -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-

Well, as far as I'm concerned the wheel is the best thing since pockets on 
pants.
After getting used to it I feel handicapped without one to scroll either on 
the web or within an application. Cut & paste is one heck of a lot easier 
because I don't have to think about making sure to get both buttons pressed 
at the same time .
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Michael Leone]

On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 18:29, J. Craig Woods wrote:

> After decades of computer work, I am still unsure of why I would need a 
> wheel or middle button. Does this kind of junk really do something useful?

Very. For scrolling, especially.

Once I started using one, I didn't want to go back to non-wheeled.

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Alexander Skwar]

So sprach »J. Craig Woods« am 2002-01-15 um 17:29:03 -0600 :
> wheel or middle button. Does this kind of junk really do something useful?

Yes, it does.  For one, pasting with the middle button is very easy ;)
How else do you paste?  Also very useful is a feature in
Netscape/Opera/Mozilla(/Konqueror?), where when you middle click on a
link, it opens the link in a new window.

For another one, scrolling pages with the wheel is also very nifty.

If I'd have to decide between the two, I'd always chose the middle
button and discard the wheel, though.

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Kyle McDonald - Eagle CAD]

J. Craig Woods wrote:

> At 07:43 PM 1/15/2002 +, Derek Jennings wrote:
> 
>> Well if you have no mouse wheel try the middle button..
>> Now you have learned something.
> 
> 
> Well I guess I am just plain SOL: I do not have a mouse with a middle 
> button, and, no, I did not enable any kind of middle button emulation. 
> After decades of computer work, I am still unsure of why I would need a 
> wheel or middle button. Does this kind of junk really do something useful?


Xwindows has, as far back as I can remember (around X11R3 or so)
always had multiple (Primary, secondary, etc.) clipboards or
'selections' as I think they call them.

Selections is probably a better term because I don't think X ever
really puts the data in any type of third-party clipboard. Instead
the most common thing I've seen is that the data is just selected
in one app and then when the user requests the dat to pasted, it is
sucked straight out of the first app that still has it selected.

Also, for as long as I can remember, the standard X11 way of requesting
a 'paste' has been to hit the middle button on the mouse. This hasn't
been much of a problem since historically most UNIX/X11 systems have
had 3 button mice.

The problems different users start to have appear when applications
start to try to implement a more Mac/Windows clipboard cut/copy/paste
mechanism. Most try to avoid the 'normal' X (primary) selection
mechanism, and instead store the cut or copied selection in one of
the alternate X buffers. The reason this causes problems is that
the application you want to paste into needs to know which buffer
the item you want to paste is stored in. This works great for cut
and past in sthe same app or between apps by the same developer.
It can even work if the apps share a development library like
Motif or GTK - But it still causes problems.

I've seen cases where the cut,copy,paste keys on a sun keyboard do
something different than the cut,copy,past menu items, which also
do something different than the highlight, middle mouse paste.

This is good example of an over engineered solution.

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[tester]

J. Craig Woods wrote:

> At 07:43 PM 1/15/2002 +, Derek Jennings wrote:
> 
>> Well if you have no mouse wheel try the middle button..
>> Now you have learned something.
> 
> 
> Well I guess I am just plain SOL: I do not have a mouse with a middle 
> button, and, no, I did not enable any kind of middle button emulation. 
> After decades of computer work, I am still unsure of why I would need a 
> wheel or middle button. Does this kind of junk really do something useful?
> 
> signed curious,
> 
> J. Craig Woods
> UNIX/NT SA
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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The middle button pastes what you copy to clipboard with 
highlighting--with 3 button emulation (standardly supplied with two 
button mouse drivers) you achieve this by clicking right and left 
buttons with some semblance of simultaneity.

The Middle button means to most browsers when you middle-click a 
hyperlink to "open in a new window".

The wheel just scrolls something which is default equipped with a 
scrollbar.  Some folks think it is useful, but I am not one of them.

My favorite mouse is an optical which has a wheel which I would have 
disabled to a normal middle button except my Belkin Omnicube seems to 
have accomplished that task without my inttervention.  My favorite 
pointer is a two-button Logitech optical trackball which has no 
scrolling features but doesn't seem to have sufficient signal strength 
to work through the Omnicube.

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[J. Craig Woods]

At 07:43 PM 1/15/2002 +, Derek Jennings wrote:

>Well if you have no mouse wheel try the middle button..
>Now you have learned something.

Well I guess I am just plain SOL: I do not have a mouse with a middle 
button, and, no, I did not enable any kind of middle button emulation. 
After decades of computer work, I am still unsure of why I would need a 
wheel or middle button. Does this kind of junk really do something useful?

signed curious,

J. Craig Woods
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Phillip]

Not to help, just to chime in:
In order for me to copy from email (Kmail) to browser (usually Opera) 
[to avoid use of Konqueror] I FIRST must erase anything in the loc. 
bar, then use the mouse buttons. Otherwise it does nothing.
Just a "gripe."

Phil



On Tuesday 15 January 2002 01:50 pm, Dave Sherman profoundly uttered:
 On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 10:53, Paul Sue wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > Why doesn't copy/cut & paste seem to work consistently?  For
 > example, why can't I copy from my browser to my Evolution Compose
 > Message box? Or from my e-mail to my eterm?  I've tried using the
 > Control keys as well as well as from the menu and the clipboard
 > icons.
 >
 > I think the problem seems to occur under both gnome and kde.
 >
 > Thanks foer any suggestions,
 >
 > Paul

 Paul,

 I have no such problems, so it may be an issue with your particular
 install.

 On the other hand (and I think this is more likely), you may be
 doing it "wrong". For example, the standard X Window method of
 copying and pasting takes two steps:
 1. Highlight the text you want to copy. This will automatically
 place the text in a clipboard buffer.
 2. Place your cursor where you want to paste the text, and click the
 middle mouse button. In most programs, you can simply put your mouse
 pointer where you want to paste, and when you click the middle mouse
 button, the cursor will automatically move to that position before
 pasting the text.

 Following the above steps, I was easily able to paste this from
 Galeon (which is really just Mozilla):
 http://sildara.dyndns.org/tools/schedule.html
 and this one from Opera:
 http://sildara.dyndns.org/tools/schedule.html

 The Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V convention is really a Mac/Windows thing. It
 is supported by some X Window software (pretty much anything using
 QT and/or KDE libs, and I think also GTK), but not all. And because
 different libs even do this Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V stuff differently, those
 keystroke combinations may not work between some applications. I
 suspect this is the issue you are running into.

 Just stick with the X Window standard, and you will be fine. I have
 *never* had a problem with that.

 Dave


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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Dave Sherman]

On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 10:53, Paul Sue wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Why doesn't copy/cut & paste seem to work consistently?  For example,
> why can't I copy from my browser to my Evolution Compose Message box?
> Or from my e-mail to my eterm?  I've tried using the Control keys as
> well as well as from the menu and the clipboard icons.
> 
> I think the problem seems to occur under both gnome and kde.
> 
> Thanks foer any suggestions,
> 
> Paul

Paul,

I have no such problems, so it may be an issue with your particular
install.

On the other hand (and I think this is more likely), you may be doing it
"wrong". For example, the standard X Window method of copying and
pasting takes two steps:
1. Highlight the text you want to copy. This will automatically place
the text in a clipboard buffer.
2. Place your cursor where you want to paste the text, and click the
middle mouse button. In most programs, you can simply put your mouse
pointer where you want to paste, and when you click the middle mouse
button, the cursor will automatically move to that position before
pasting the text.

Following the above steps, I was easily able to paste this from Galeon
(which is really just Mozilla):
http://sildara.dyndns.org/tools/schedule.html
and this one from Opera:
http://sildara.dyndns.org/tools/schedule.html

The Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V convention is really a Mac/Windows thing. It is
supported by some X Window software (pretty much anything using QT
and/or KDE libs, and I think also GTK), but not all. And because
different libs even do this Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V stuff differently, those
keystroke combinations may not work between some applications. I suspect
this is the issue you are running into.

Just stick with the X Window standard, and you will be fine. I have
*never* had a problem with that.

Dave
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Derek Jennings]

Well if you have no mouse wheel try the middle button..
Now you have learned something.


On Tuesday 15 January 2002 19:31, you wrote:
> At 06:46 PM 1/15/2002 +, Derek Jennings wrote:
> >Are you cutting and pasting the Unix way?
> >Use left mouse button to highlight text and press mouse wheel to paste.
> >
> >It works across almost all Linux apps.
> >
> >derek
>
> That is funny. I have been in UNIX for over 10 years, and I have never
> owned a mouse with a wheel. To the lost soul trying to cut and paste, try
> your keystrokes:
>
> CTRL + C = COPY
> CTRL + V = PASTE
>
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[J. Craig Woods]

At 06:46 PM 1/15/2002 +, Derek Jennings wrote:
>Are you cutting and pasting the Unix way?
>Use left mouse button to highlight text and press mouse wheel to paste.
>
>It works across almost all Linux apps.
>
>derek

That is funny. I have been in UNIX for over 10 years, and I have never 
owned a mouse with a wheel. To the lost soul trying to cut and paste, try 
your keystrokes:

CTRL + C = COPY
CTRL + V = PASTE

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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Derek Jennings]

Are you cutting and pasting the Unix way?
Use left mouse button to highlight text and press mouse wheel to paste.

It works across almost all Linux apps.

derek


On Tuesday 15 January 2002 16:53, Paul Sue wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Why doesn't copy/cut & paste seem to work consistently?  For example,
> why can't I copy from my browser to my Evolution Compose Message box?
> Or from my e-mail to my eterm?  I've tried using the Control keys as
> well as well as from the menu and the clipboard icons.
>
> I think the problem seems to occur under both gnome and kde.
>
> Thanks foer any suggestions,
>
> Paul
>
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Re: [expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Alexander Skwar]

So sprach »Paul Sue« am 2002-01-15 um 08:53:50 -0800 :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Why doesn't copy/cut & paste seem to work consistently?  For example,
> why can't I copy from my browser to my Evolution Compose Message box?
> Or from my e-mail to my eterm?  I've tried using the Control keys as
> well as well as from the menu and the clipboard icons.

This is supposed to work.  However, you've got to make sure that the
application/window from which you are copying *FROM* stays open.  If you
close it, you'll lose the copied text.

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[expert] Weird Problems #3: Copy/Cut and Paste

[Paul Sue]

Hi,

Why doesn't copy/cut & paste seem to work consistently?  For example,
why can't I copy from my browser to my Evolution Compose Message box?
Or from my e-mail to my eterm?  I've tried using the Control keys as
well as well as from the menu and the clipboard icons.

I think the problem seems to occur under both gnome and kde.

Thanks foer any suggestions,

Paul

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