Re: [expert] can someone tell me?

2002-07-01 Thread J. Craig Woods

Todd Lyons wrote:
 
 Addendum:
 
 The dns resolver on the client end will randomly pick one of the
 AUTHORITY servers.  The end result is that your server will still get
 on average 1/3 of the requests, so no, it's no ok.  You need to remove
 that dns server from being listed as authoritative.
 


Thanks for the info Todd. I was under the apparently wrong impression
that the client resolver would use the first available server in the
AUTHORITY SECTION, i.e. the first one that is not busy at the time of
the inquiry. I did not understand it to be a purely random process.
Thanks for disabusing me of a long standing misconception. Keep up the
good work. It is nice to see postings from the Mandrake people. I dare
say that civileme has been as busy as a one-legged man in a
ass-kicking contest.

drjung

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Re: [expert] can someone tell me?

2002-06-30 Thread Todd Lyons

Addendum:

J. Craig Woods wrote on Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:42:52PM -0500 :
 
 Since the gtld servers list my dns server as last in the AUTHORITY
 SECTION entry, I think I should be okay even if they have the wrong
 ip address for my dns server. What do you think?

The dns resolver on the client end will randomly pick one of the
AUTHORITY servers.  The end result is that your server will still get
on average 1/3 of the requests, so no, it's no ok.  You need to remove
that dns server from being listed as authoritative.

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Re: [expert] can someone tell me?

2002-06-29 Thread James

Todd,

 You are so very right.  One thing I have found.  During my phase of
getting a .biz domain to be accepted as a nameserver, and moving our
domains away from Netsol (I may have well been the first .biz namserver)
Calling your agent helps.  I've found the people at these smaller
resellers to be very helpful.  It's also amazing how when they contact
Networks without Solutions things happen... fast too.  So don't hesitate
to call and be polite works wonders.  

   Oh and about pachell... yep know what you mean.  2 years with pacbell
234 days down time (9 months free service too!)  9 months with ATT cable
in my new apt.  TOTAL downtime 35 minutes. (other than the @Home fiasco)
  

James

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:42:52 -0500
J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] said with temporary authority

 Todd Lyons wrote:
  
  I try to pick one at random.  If I always pick a, and everybody who
  does things like me always picks a, this could create artificial
  load on a. I'm more or less trying to be environmentally friendly
 
 Hmmm, I like that kind of thinking. We need more like you out here.
 
  Everything works as expected, EXCEPT the ns1.mrball.net entry.  If I
  manually query the register.com domain name servers, I get the
  correct IP.  But everything else will be using the root name
  servers.  The root name servers see the original host record and use
  that.
  
  The problem is simple:  NSI won't remove a host record from their
  registry:
  1) If it's pointed at by another domain.
  2) If you didn't register it with them.
  3) Even if you fix #1 and #2, they still won't remove it.  :
 
 Yep, you are right on. This is my situation completely. Since the gtld
 servers list my dns server as last in the AUTHORITY SECTION entry, I
 think I should be okay even if they have the wrong ip address for my
 dns server. What do you think? If I read you correctly, you are saying
 that even if I remove my personal dns server from the AUTHORITY
 SECTION that the dns servers at Register.com maintain, this info will
 not be changed in the Global Top Level Domain name servers. Man, this
 does not sounds good. So far my web server and email server still work
 as they should but doesn't this spell trouble down the road?
 
 Thanks for your insight on this ToddMeister.
 
 drjung 
 
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Re: [expert] can someone tell me?

2002-06-29 Thread Todd Lyons

J. Craig Woods wrote on Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:42:52PM -0500 :
 
 Yep, you are right on. This is my situation completely. Since the gtld
 servers list my dns server as last in the AUTHORITY SECTION entry, I
 think I should be okay even if they have the wrong ip address for my dns
 server. What do you think? If I read you correctly, you are saying that

As long as your dns is not listed as authoritative for your domain (or
any other domain), you should be fine.  If you ever do need to serve
your own DNS, you'll have to name it different from the previous name.

 even if I remove my personal dns server from the AUTHORITY SECTION that
 the dns servers at Register.com maintain, this info will not be changed
 in the Global Top Level Domain name servers. Man, this does not sounds
 good. So far my web server and email server still work as they should
 but doesn't this spell trouble down the road?

Only for NSI as experienced people are leaving them with alarming
regularity.  Other than that, it's their registry and they're doing with
it what they damn well please.  The hook is if you transfer to us, you
get control over things like this but in practice, it doesn't seem to
work that way.

Blue skies...   Todd
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