Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-02 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 15:53, David E. Fox wrote:
 What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only
 seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power
 to my HD drives.
 
 And that was with an older system.

hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins.

 
 Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the
 shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup
 and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These
 processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at
 present it is over 20.
 

lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up
at 4 or 5?

 Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks
 each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of 
 course, they are.
 
 Oh well, reboot time again.
 
 
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Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-02 Thread David E. Fox
 hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins.

Well, it was gremlins in the other system -- actually the power cable to the
drives was a bit flaky, so anything that would access the drive (ex. df, ls,
etc.) would hang, with a corresponding linear increase in the overall
load average.

This time, it's different -- and it seems to have gone away in the last
urpmi --auto-select.

 lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up
 at 4 or 5?

msec is standard; I don't raise it higher. root would hang as well as a user.
No difference there.

Reboot  urpmi seems to have fixed this problem -- now there's no kicker 
panel on my kde. D*thing came up in twm :(

 Jack Coates
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Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-02 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 23:00, Jack Coates wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 15:53, David E. Fox wrote:
  What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only
  seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power
  to my HD drives.
  
  And that was with an older system.
 
 hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins.
what does 'df' say 



 
  
  Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the
  shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup
  and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These
  processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at
  present it is over 20.
  
 
 lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up
 at 4 or 5?
 
  Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks
  each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of 
  course, they are.
  
  Oh well, reboot time again.
  
  
  David E. Fox  Thanks for letting me
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[expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-01 Thread David E. Fox
What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only
seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power
to my HD drives.

And that was with an older system.

Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the
shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup
and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These
processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at
present it is over 20.

Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks
each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of 
course, they are.

Oh well, reboot time again.


David E. Fox  Thanks for letting me
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