[expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-01 Thread David E. Fox
What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only
seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power
to my HD drives.

And that was with an older system.

Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the
shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup
and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These
processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at
present it is over 20.

Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks
each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of 
course, they are.

Oh well, reboot time again.


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Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-02 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 15:53, David E. Fox wrote:
> What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only
> seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power
> to my HD drives.
> 
> And that was with an older system.

hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins.

> 
> Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the
> shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup
> and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These
> processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at
> present it is over 20.
> 

lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up
at 4 or 5?

> Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks
> each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of 
> course, they are.
> 
> Oh well, reboot time again.
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-02 Thread David E. Fox
> hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins.

Well, it was gremlins in the other system -- actually the power cable to the
drives was a bit flaky, so anything that would access the drive (ex. df, ls,
etc.) would hang, with a corresponding linear increase in the overall
load average.

This time, it's different -- and it seems to have gone away in the last
urpmi --auto-select.

> lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up
> at 4 or 5?

msec is standard; I don't raise it higher. root would hang as well as a user.
No difference there.

Reboot & urpmi seems to have fixed this problem -- now there's no kicker 
panel on my kde. D&*thing came up in twm :(

> Jack Coates
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Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-02 Thread ed tharp
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 23:00, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 15:53, David E. Fox wrote:
> > What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only
> > seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power
> > to my HD drives.
> > 
> > And that was with an older system.
> 
> hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins.
what does 'df' say 



> 
> > 
> > Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the
> > shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup
> > and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These
> > processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at
> > present it is over 20.
> > 
> 
> lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up
> at 4 or 5?
> 
> > Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks
> > each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of 
> > course, they are.
> > 
> > Oh well, reboot time again.
> > 
> > 
> > David E. Fox  Thanks for letting me
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