Re: [expert] managing numerous passwords

2000-01-26 Thread Phil Edwards

On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Harondel J. Sibble wrote:

 
 Now presently, I keep all my passwords in a pgp encrypted file on one of
 my boxes (backed up to tape and another box) and am curious what methods
 people use to keep the password list from growing out of hand. Also
 especially when you are admining/maintaining a network of co-located
 machines. Do you use say a few passwords that are randomly distributed
 between machines, a different password for each machine, or what.
 

Although I can't claim to know a great deal about it, the usual solution in
cases like this is to designate one of your machines as an NIS server - all the
user info (including passwords) is then held on the one machine and the rest of
the network refers to that server for authentication information.

That, I'm afraid, is about the sum total of my knowledge of NIS :-(

I got a copy of "Redhat 6 Unleashed" for Christmas, but I haven't got the the
chapter on NIS yet..

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Re: [expert] managing numerous passwords

2000-01-26 Thread Ramon Gandia

Harondel J. Sibble wrote:

  (curious) what methods
  people use to keep the password list from growing out of hand. Also
  especially when you are admining/maintaining a network of co-located
  machines. Do you use say a few passwords that are randomly distributed
  between machines, a different password for each machine, or what.
 
Phil Edwards replied:

 Although I can't claim to know a great deal about it, the usual solution in
 cases like this is to designate one of your machines as an NIS server

I think the low-tech method is best.  Get too fancy, NIS, rsync
and other stuff, and if something breaks, it all falls down like
a string of dominoes. I think that passwords should be kept in
one of three places:  your head, a 3x5 card in the safe, or a
laminated card in your wallet.

It also helps if YOUR non-root accounts, regardless of the
username
have the same password.  YOu may wish to have the root passwords
all the same, or follow some scheme that is obvious only to you.
Howver, all this is moot if you have a wallet-size card.

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Re: [expert] managing numerous passwords

2000-01-26 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, you wrote:
 Harondel J. Sibble wrote:
 
   (curious) what methods
   people use to keep the password list from growing out of hand. Also
   especially when you are admining/maintaining a network of co-located
   machines. Do you use say a few passwords that are randomly distributed
   between machines, a different password for each machine, or what.
  
 Phil Edwards replied:
 
  Although I can't claim to know a great deal about it, the usual solution in
  cases like this is to designate one of your machines as an NIS server
 
 I think the low-tech method is best.  Get too fancy, NIS, rsync
 and other stuff, and if something breaks, it all falls down like
 a string of dominoes. I think that passwords should be kept in
 one of three places:  your head, a 3x5 card in the safe, or a
 laminated card in your wallet.
 
 It also helps if YOUR non-root accounts, regardless of the
 username
 have the same password.  YOu may wish to have the root passwords
 all the same, or follow some scheme that is obvious only to you.
 Howver, all this is moot if you have a wallet-size card.
 
What really helps is if you use a small number of passwords
for all machines (one to three) using SSH... and limit
allowed ssh connections to a few specific machines. :-)
Then, you really only need to know a couple or three
passwords. :-)
John



[expert] managing numerous passwords

2000-01-25 Thread Harondel J. Sibble


Okay, most of us know how important good passwords are as a first line to
keeping the system secure, but what happens when one has multiple systems
they maintain and each system has multiple passwords. Now the list of
passwords one has to remember rapidly gets out of hand.  A few months back
when PC Magazine had their hack the website contest (the had NT, Linux and
Mac web servers up), they mentioned in closing that the amount of
passwords they had to maintain was completely unwieldly and they
eventually setup a laptop with all the passwords, knowing that if the
laptop walked away, the game was up.

Now presently, I keep all my passwords in a pgp encrypted file on one of
my boxes (backed up to tape and another box) and am curious what methods
people use to keep the password list from growing out of hand. Also
especially when you are admining/maintaining a network of co-located
machines. Do you use say a few passwords that are randomly distributed
between machines, a different password for each machine, or what.

TIA

Harondel J. Sibble 
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