Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
Thanks to all of you. I like booting by winxp boot and got bootpart utility to create my own boot image and new loader inside boot.ini. So, for You, no problem way seems to be using grub instad of lilo when hd is over 60gb and mdk root is inside a logical patition and got another mbr bootmanager . Is that correct? P.S. For Mark, xp have some restoring console commad to repair mbr: fixmbr, fixboot, bootcfg. Just boot from xp cd and choose repair. Thanks again Evaristo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just a quick one, how does one XP or 2000 to replace it's MBR, with Win98 it used to be fdisk /mbr Cheers Mark On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 04:19, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:41:27 -0700 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it safe to reinstall 98 and XP? Win XP and Win 2000 Will Not overwrite an Existing MBR, Win 98 Will. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 03:41 pm, eric huff sent this :- I have also run XP in another partition, and crashed it often, then reinstalled it, and it has never reworked the MBR, just put itself back in with out destruction. Is it safe to reinstall 98 and XP? I was always told it would reformat your entire drive (wether you wanted it to or not). If the command to format has a drive specified, then DOS or any windows O/S will only format that drive. However, even if format is specified, only all windows partitions will be formatted and it will be possible to still boot into Linux through the boot floppy. I have never had any windows operating system touch the Linux partitions. Or so has been my experience. It is as if they don't exist. Which can be very handy. Windows can be reinstalled and then boot floppy into Linux, run lilo as root, and everything will be fine. Normal boot options again. Charlie -- In a grove of tall bamboos Beside an ancient temple Steam rolls from the brazier In fragrant white clouds; I show you the path of Sages Beyond this floating world, But will you understand The lasting taste of spring? - Baisao (1675-1763) This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.0, Kmail v1.4.3 and OpenOffice.org1.0.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
OK. I was under the impression that microsoft had a feautre that no matter what, would clean your entire drive for your convenience. (in other words, it would make sure no linux was left after they were done with it.) Hopefully i'll never have to find out... Is it safe to reinstall 98 and XP? I was always told it would reformat your entire drive (wether you wanted it to or not). If the command to format has a drive specified, then DOS or any windows O/S will only format that drive. However, even if format is specified, only all windows partitions will be formatted and it will be possible to still boot into Linux through the boot floppy. I have never had any windows operating system touch the Linux partitions. Or so has been my experience. It is as if they don't exist. Which can be very handy. Windows can be reinstalled and then boot floppy into Linux, run lilo as root, and everything will be fine. Normal boot options again. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 08:01 am, Evaristo Ferrari sent this :- Hi, I have installed lilo on hda8 mount as root partition and created a boot floppy. TIA Evaristo You couldn't boot from the floppy either? I wonder how much of the hard drive you use for Linux? 80GB might be too large for lilo to boot? Grub might, but I have never had need to use it. I have to admit that I have always placed lilo into the MBR. The boot floppy is the backup, if something goes wrong. Like reinstalling windows and the lilo section of the MBR is wiped, I just boot into Linux with the boot floppy Run lilo, or lilo.conf and all is again well. I have never run a boot partition, have always considered it a waste of space and never needed it. As well I better say that I run a very small win98 partition for a few things that I use. Partition magic being one. I have also run XP in another partition, and crashed it often, then reinstalled it, and it has never reworked the MBR, just put itself back in with out destruction. Maybe because the MBR is in win98, so it doesn't break anything? Boots as normal windows and Linux without change. Sorry that I am unable to be of more help. Charlie. -- In a grove of tall bamboos Beside an ancient temple Steam rolls from the brazier In fragrant white clouds; I show you the path of Sages Beyond this floating world, But will you understand The lasting taste of spring? - Baisao (1675-1763) This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.0, Kmail v1.4.3 and OpenOffice.org1.0.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 12:04, charlie wrote: On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 08:01 am, Evaristo Ferrari sent this :- Hi, I have installed lilo on hda8 mount as root partition and created a boot floppy. TIA Evaristo You couldn't boot from the floppy either? I wonder how much of the hard drive you use for Linux? 80GB might be too large for lilo to boot? Grub might, but I have never had need to use it. I've got an 80GB here... Lilo handles it. I have to admit that I have always placed lilo into the MBR. The boot floppy is the backup, if something goes wrong. Like reinstalling windows and the lilo section of the MBR is wiped, I just boot into Linux with the boot floppy Run lilo, or lilo.conf and all is again well. I have never run a boot partition, have always considered it a waste of space and never needed it. As well I better say that I run a very small win98 partition for a few things that I use. Partition magic being one. I have also run XP in another partition, and crashed it often, then reinstalled it, and it has never reworked the MBR, just put itself back in with out destruction. Maybe because the MBR is in win98, so it doesn't break anything? Boots as normal windows and Linux without change. Sorry that I am unable to be of more help. Charlie. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
I have also run XP in another partition, and crashed it often, then reinstalled it, and it has never reworked the MBR, just put itself back in with out destruction. Is it safe to reinstall 98 and XP? I was always told it would reformat your entire drive (wether you wanted it to or not). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:41:27 -0700 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it safe to reinstall 98 and XP? Win XP and Win 2000 Will Not overwrite an Existing MBR, Win 98 Will. Charles -- ... If I had heart failure right now, I couldn't be a more fortunate man!! - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.1mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, eric huff wrote: I have also run XP in another partition, and crashed it often, then reinstalled it, and it has never reworked the MBR, just put itself back in with out destruction. Is it safe to reinstall 98 and XP? I was always told it would reformat your entire drive (wether you wanted it to or not). 98 should be no problem, except that it will overwrite your MBR (which means you'll need to boot from a floppy and rerun /sbin/lilo, or boot to the rescue system on MDK CD #1, and reinstall LILO from the menu there). With XP, it depends on the disc you have to reinstall from; if it's a full XP version, it's essentially the same as with 98. If it's one of those G-D Recovery Disk versions, then all it is capable of is returning the HD to the condition it was in when the system was originally purchased - which means XP filling the entire thing. If you run it, and Linux is currently on the same HD, then that Linux installation is toast. :( Just another feature brought to you by your friends at Micro$haft ... who think that you should buy the OS at least twice, if you actually plan on using it at all, and at least once even if you don't ... :( -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rourke Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 08:41, eric huff wrote: I have also run XP in another partition, and crashed it often, then reinstalled it, and it has never reworked the MBR, just put itself back in with out destruction. Is it safe to reinstall 98 and XP? I was always told it would reformat your entire drive (wether you wanted it to or not). XP seems to understand partitions. 98 likes to take the whole drive.. I've had some luck doing a repair... not much... but some, with 98. James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
just a quick one, how does one XP or 2000 to replace it's MBR, with Win98 it used to be fdisk /mbr Cheers Mark On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 04:19, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:41:27 -0700 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it safe to reinstall 98 and XP? Win XP and Win 2000 Will Not overwrite an Existing MBR, Win 98 Will. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
Hi, I have installed lilo on hda8 mount as root partition and created a boot floppy. TIA Evaristo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:19 am, Evaristo Ferrari sent this :- just install mdk 9.1 download edition and I chose not hda lilo install. First reboot got lilo prompt and login mdk 9.1 Second rebot got lilo 999 error. You didn't make a boot floppy? You installed on the Mandrake partition? Is that correct? Or did you create a boot partition? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
Evaristo Ferrari wrote: Hi, I have installed lilo on hda8 mount as root partition and created a boot floppy. TIA Evaristo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:19 am, Evaristo Ferrari sent this :- just install mdk 9.1 download edition and I chose not hda lilo install. First reboot got lilo prompt and login mdk 9.1 Second rebot got lilo 999 error. When you install grub or lilo to the beginning of a partition other than the mbr, you need to have a bootloader in the mbr that chainloads the bootloader on your other partition. I don't understand how you got one good reboot, however. In /usr/share/doc/lilo-doc-22.4.1 there is a User_Guide that contains: The LILO boot sector is designed to be usable as a partition boot sector. (I.e. there is room for the partition table.) Therefore, the LILO boot sector can be stored at the following locations: boot sector of a Linux floppy disk. (/dev/fd0, . . .) MBR of the first hard disk. (/dev/hda, /dev/sda, . . .) boot sector of a primary Linux file system partition on the first hard disk. (/dev/hda1, . . .) partition boot sector of an extended partition on the first hard disk. (/dev/hda1, . . .)3 It can t be stored at any of the following locations: boot sector of a non-Linux floppy disk or primary partition. a Linux swap partition. boot sector of a logical partition in an extended partition.4 on the second hard disk. (Unless for backup installations, if the current first disk will be removed or disabled, or if some other boot loader is used, that is capable of loading boot sectors from other drives.) This indicates lilo can't be installed on a logical partition, which is what hda8 is. I use grub and it does not have this limitation. I have grub in the mbr and booting from three different disks, including chain loading a grub for 9.1 that is installed on the boot sector of hdg7. I don't know what you are trying to accomplish but it is possible that you could get lilo working by booting CD1 to a rescue session (press F1 when the screen says to press F1 for other options). There is a menu option to reinstall the bootloader and this might work for you, I don't know. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
Hi, just install mdk 9.1 download edition and I chose not hda lilo install. First reboot got lilo prompt and login mdk 9.1 Second rebot got lilo 999 error. I make a clear installation with no particolar modules, a part from lilo, in a ext3 partition at very end of a maxtor 80gb hd. Where I was wrong? TIA Evaristo -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk 9.1 lilo corrupt mbr with 80 gb hd
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:19 am, Evaristo Ferrari sent this :- just install mdk 9.1 download edition and I chose not hda lilo install. First reboot got lilo prompt and login mdk 9.1 Second rebot got lilo 999 error. You didn't make a boot floppy? You installed on the Mandrake partition? Is that correct? Or did you create a boot partition? -- Due to circumstances beyond my control, I am master of my fate and captain of my soul. Ashley Brillaint This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.0, Kmail v1.4.3 and OpenOffice.org1.0.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
