Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 00:43, Peter Watson wrote: > PS. I missed the most important difference. Kino allows unlimited DV > capture, M$ moviemaker appears to allow the same, but the resultant files > are somehow crippled so that they appear to other applications to be only > 7008 frames long. This severely limits your ability to do any post > processing, such as conversion to MPEG 1/2 in order to master a VCD or > DVD, I don't know how or why this is done but it is typical of M$ to build > in restrictions to otherwise functional software, look at XP Home > networking abilities. The overall result is that moviemaker is really only > a toy and cannot be cosidered for any attempt to produce serious video > output. > > > Regards > Pete Cool! Thanks for the very detailed response! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 94. Hey!! The suns don't do this. --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 16:26, Peter Watson wrote: > No it can do more things IMO:- > > Create titles - do fewer but better effects - export video in more ^ ^^ > > formats(like divx) - show frame numbers (as well as times)when editing > -more flexible editing tools. > > Regards > Pete Ok, that's what I'm looking for. I want to be able to do some of those "better" effects. So, how would I approach that? Moviemaker can take still jpegs and turn them into transitions like a page flip for example. How would I accomplish that on linux? Is that where the gimp would come in? I guess I'm looking for any plugins or whatever that could go into kino. I'm going to play more with kino and cinelerra and see how it works out. Thanks! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< If Microsoft built cars, you could only have one person in the car at a time, unless you bought "Car95" or "CarNT". But, then you would have to buy more seats. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 00:07, Michael Holt wrote: > On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 16:42, Peter Watson wrote: > > Kino will allow you to do some simple video editing and includes > > effects like fades and barn doors also you can create titles etc from > > gifs or jpegs (hint use gimp to create them), it is not as > > comprehensive as premier but miles better than M$ moviemaker. I have > > not usef cinelerra but from what I hear it is very good, probably > > equal or better than premier > > > > > > Regards > > > > Pete > > So are you saying 'miles better' because it's m$? No it can do more things IMO:- Create titles - do fewer but better effects - export video in more formats(like divx) - show frame numbers (as well as times)when editing -more flexible editing tools. Regards Pete Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 16:42, Peter Watson wrote: > Kino will allow you to do some simple video editing and includes effects > like fades and barn doors also you can create titles etc from gifs or > jpegs (hint use gimp to create them), it is not as comprehensive as > premier but miles better than M$ moviemaker. I have not usef cinelerra > but from what I hear it is very good, probably equal or better than > premier > > > Regards > > Pete So are you saying 'miles better' because it's m$? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 19. hey, what does mkfs do? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Nov 2003 23:45, Michael Holt wrote: > Hey all, > M$ has a somewhat new program called 'moviemaker' which you can > download for free for winxp. I would like to know if there is > something comparible for linux. I was asked if I could help with > some video production at my church and they want to use Adobe > Premier. As always, I would like to introduce as much opensource > as possible. I haven't done much video editing, and what I have > done was on Windows, several years ago. I would like something > that could handle both jpeg compilation like moviemaker and also > something that could do video transitions with effects similar to > premier. Being able to make photos 'shatter' into the next photo > or have like a 'page-flip' effect. Same with the video; maybe > being able to 'twist' the video and merge into other footage. > > Any suggestions? > > Things I've looked at already are: > > cinelerra > kino > mjpeg > filmgimp > > As I've said, I don't have much video editing experience; if one > of the programs I've already mentioned does what I've asked, feel > free to point that out :) > > Thanks! Kino will allow you to do some simple video editing and includes effects like fades and barn doors also you can create titles etc from gifs or jpegs (hint use gimp to create them), it is not as comprehensive as premier but miles better than M$ moviemaker. I have not usef cinelerra but from what I hear it is very good, probably equal or better than premier Regards Pete Ardnamurchan Scotland -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/sDCdbAtXXQnVtr0RAnVrAJ9Ypn3PvE/WNSgnS7ic1Tp1Xv9tLQCcDmi0 awCYwS2kxIYfvFZeLtdogoM= =Nie3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:26, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 08:05, Michael Holt wrote: > > James Sparenberg mused: > > > > > There was/is one that was by many considered to be studio quality > > > called > > > broadcast 2000 You can find the files here > > > > > > http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/orphaned/broadcast2000/ > > > > > > in source form and If you go to rpmfind or rpm.pbone.net you might > > > find > > > a src rpm as well. > > > > > > James > > > > Thanks James, > > I d/l'd it and am going to start playing with it now. I'm curious > > though; cinelerra is supposed to be the replacement for bcast2k > > and I googled around for bcast; do you know why they stopped > > supporting bcast? > > Some of what they where doing was patented after the fact and they felt > that the chances of running into expensive lawsuits wasn't worth the > risk. > > James Ahh, I see. Thanks James -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ===< Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 08:05, Michael Holt wrote: > James Sparenberg mused: > > > There was/is one that was by many considered to be studio quality > > called > > broadcast 2000 You can find the files here > > > > http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/orphaned/broadcast2000/ > > > > in source form and If you go to rpmfind or rpm.pbone.net you might > > find > > a src rpm as well. > > > > James > > Thanks James, > I d/l'd it and am going to start playing with it now. I'm curious > though; cinelerra is supposed to be the replacement for bcast2k > and I googled around for bcast; do you know why they stopped > supporting bcast? Some of what they where doing was patented after the fact and they felt that the chances of running into expensive lawsuits wasn't worth the risk. James > > Thanks again Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
James Sparenberg mused: > There was/is one that was by many considered to be studio quality > called > broadcast 2000 You can find the files here > > http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/orphaned/broadcast2000/ > > in source form and If you go to rpmfind or rpm.pbone.net you might > find > a src rpm as well. > > James Thanks James, I d/l'd it and am going to start playing with it now. I'm curious though; cinelerra is supposed to be the replacement for bcast2k and I googled around for bcast; do you know why they stopped supporting bcast? Thanks again -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 15:45, Michael Holt wrote: > Hey all, > M$ has a somewhat new program called 'moviemaker' which you can > download for free for winxp. I would like to know if there is > something comparible for linux. I was asked if I could help with > some video production at my church and they want to use Adobe > Premier. As always, I would like to introduce as much opensource > as possible. I haven't done much video editing, and what I have > done was on Windows, several years ago. I would like something > that could handle both jpeg compilation like moviemaker and also > something that could do video transitions with effects similar to > premier. Being able to make photos 'shatter' into the next photo > or have like a 'page-flip' effect. Same with the video; maybe > being able to 'twist' the video and merge into other footage. > > Any suggestions? > > Things I've looked at already are: > > cinelerra > kino > mjpeg > filmgimp > > As I've said, I don't have much video editing experience; if one > of the programs I've already mentioned does what I've asked, feel > free to point that out :) > > Thanks! There was/is one that was by many considered to be studio quality called broadcast 2000 You can find the files here http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/orphaned/broadcast2000/ in source form and If you go to rpmfind or rpm.pbone.net you might find a src rpm as well. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] movies, jpegs, etc
Hey all, M$ has a somewhat new program called 'moviemaker' which you can download for free for winxp. I would like to know if there is something comparible for linux. I was asked if I could help with some video production at my church and they want to use Adobe Premier. As always, I would like to introduce as much opensource as possible. I haven't done much video editing, and what I have done was on Windows, several years ago. I would like something that could handle both jpeg compilation like moviemaker and also something that could do video transitions with effects similar to premier. Being able to make photos 'shatter' into the next photo or have like a 'page-flip' effect. Same with the video; maybe being able to 'twist' the video and merge into other footage. Any suggestions? Things I've looked at already are: cinelerra kino mjpeg filmgimp As I've said, I don't have much video editing experience; if one of the programs I've already mentioned does what I've asked, feel free to point that out :) Thanks! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
