Re: [expert] * does not select all files
I have noticed that cp -a not only will copy hidden files but the -a causes it to act differently than any other form of cp. The man page says cp -a is the equivalent of cp -dpR but it is not at all the same. For one thing, cp -a copies the .hidden files. For another, any other form of cp would use a command line like: cp source_dir/ target_dir/ where target_dir has been already created. If you do the same with cp -a you will end up with a target_dir that is empty except for a subdirectory that has the same name as the source_dir! This is completely different than I have ever seen cp act. The way to copy all files in a tree is to use the command: cp -a source_dir target_dir where target_dir has NOT been created yet. Then cp -a will create the target_dir and recursively copy all files including .hidden ones. Note that I always use \cp -a source_dir target_dir where the \ in front of cp defeats any options you may have in a cp alias. In fact my cp is aliased to cp -ipdv to preserve any links and also to preserve the date-time and other attributes of the copied file - otherwise it's very confusing when your copy has the current date and time. The above is just some stuff I had to figure out on my own because the cp command acts differently in a non-intutive way depending on the options and is very non-intutive when by default it creates a copy with the current date and time. Larry Alkoff N2LA Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] * does not select all files
another way to copy ALL files as well as permissions on a directory to another (besides those already mentioned by other listers) is to use 'tar': cd /directory_to_copy tar cf - . | (cd /directory_to_put_the_files; tar xpf - ) what is your program trying to do anyway? just moving files? --- George Petri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Does anyone know why * misses hidden files such as .kderc? What is the reasoning for that? I mean to select ALL files, now I have to specify (in bash, of course): * *.[a-zA-Z] to my programs e.g. cp * *.[a-zA-Z] /somefolder. It is also a pain to type! Is there a better way to select ALL files? Thanks, George -- 9:52pm up 25 min 2 users, load average: 27.65, 51.29, 28.79 (now loading 40 khexedit's on a Pentium II...) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] * does not select all files
- Original Message - From: Gregor Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 12:08 AM Subject: RE: [expert] * does not select all files On 13-Aug-2001 George Petri wrote: Hi! Does anyone know why * misses hidden files such as .kderc? What is the reasoning for that? I mean to select ALL files, now I have to specify (in bash, of course): * *.[a-zA-Z] to my programs e.g. cp * *.[a-zA-Z] /somefolder. It is also a pain to type! Is there a better way to select ALL files? cp .* * /somefolder should work But doesn't .* also select .. as well? I once did chmod -R root.root .* * and ended up changing the ownership of the parent directory which was not the desired effect. Thanks, george Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] * does not select all files
On Monday 13 August 2001 09:42, George Petri wrote: Hi! Does anyone know why * misses hidden files such as .kderc? What is the reasoning for that? I mean to select ALL files, now I have to specify (in bash, of course): * *.[a-zA-Z] to my programs e.g. cp * *.[a-zA-Z] /somefolder. It is also a pain to type! Is there a better way to select ALL files? Thanks, George Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: try echo .[^.]* * and you will see that gives you all the files except . and .. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] * does not select all files
On 13-Aug-2001 George Petri wrote: Hi! Does anyone know why * misses hidden files such as .kderc? What is the reasoning for that? I mean to select ALL files, now I have to specify (in bash, of course): * *.[a-zA-Z] to my programs e.g. cp * *.[a-zA-Z] /somefolder. It is also a pain to type! Is there a better way to select ALL files? cp .* * /somefolder should work -- E-Mail: Gregor Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13-Aug-2001 Time: 16:07:04 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] * does not select all files
I take that back, files starting with 2 dots would still be hidded. The only way is to do it is: echo .[^.]* ..[^.]* ...* * Try it. Create these files .bozo ..bozo ...bozo bozo and you will see that displays them all, but does not display . and .. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] * does not select all files
Or, try: cp -a .??* destination Ric *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/13/2001 at 12:39 PM root wrote: I take that back, files starting with 2 dots would still be hidded. The only way is to do it is: echo .[^.]* ..[^.]* ...* * Try it. Create these files .bozo ..bozo ...bozo bozo and you will see that displays them all, but does not display . and .. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] * does not select all files
On Monday 13 August 2001 12:26, root wrote: On Monday 13 August 2001 09:42, George Petri wrote: Hi! Does anyone know why * misses hidden files such as .kderc? What is the reasoning for that? I mean to select ALL files, now I have to specify (in bash, of course): * *.[a-zA-Z] to my programs e.g. cp * *.[a-zA-Z] /somefolder. It is also a pain to type! Is there a better way to select ALL files? Thanks, George try echo .[^.]* * and you will see that gives you all the files except . and .. Hmmm, I always use cp -a to preserve links and such. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] * does not select all files
On Monday 13 August 2001 18:45, civileme wrote: On Monday 13 August 2001 12:26, root wrote: On Monday 13 August 2001 09:42, George Petri wrote: Hi! Does anyone know why * misses hidden files such as .kderc? What is the reasoning for that? I mean to select ALL files, now I have to specify (in bash, of course): * *.[a-zA-Z] to my programs e.g. cp * *.[a-zA-Z] /somefolder. It is also a pain to type! Is there a better way to select ALL files? Thanks, George try echo .[^.]* * and you will see that gives you all the files except . and .. Hmmm, I always use cp -a to preserve links and such. Civileme That is good if you want to copy recursively all files but I think the question was how to reference all files in a directory. The cp was just an example he gave. Here is another example: for i in .[^.]* ..[^.]* ...* * ; do mv $i $i.old done This would rename everything (including directory names) to a name with the suffic .old. The only 2 files that would not be renamed would be . and .. This would not act recursively. If one wanted to do that, find would be better suited. Thanks. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] * does not select all files
On Monday 13 August 2001 13:52, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Or, try: cp -a .??* destination Ric *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/13/2001 at 12:39 PM root wrote: I take that back, files starting with 2 dots would still be hidded. The only way is to do it is: echo .[^.]* ..[^.]* ...* * Try it. Create these files .bozo ..bozo ...bozo bozo and you will see that displays them all, but does not display . and .. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Sorry to disagree, but .??* would miss a filename like .X. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
