RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-13 Thread Michael Viron
Enterprise (OV-101) is currently owned by the Smithsonian -- you can see
more information on it and the other orbiters at
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/resources/orbiters/orbiters.html .

Michael

At 02:14 AM 2/11/2003 +0800, you wrote:
>good thing it never made it into space...
>
>If it followed the trekkie version, it'd end up being destroyed, partially
>or fully at each outting (movie).
>
>
>So what happened to the Enterprise??
>
>is it at the NASA museum??
>
>
>rgds
>
>Frank
>



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RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-10 Thread Franki
good thing it never made it into space...

If it followed the trekkie version, it'd end up being destroyed, partially
or fully at each outting (movie).


So what happened to the Enterprise??

is it at the NASA museum??


rgds

Frank

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Subject: Re: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.


Yep, it was enterprise.

"Matthew O. Persico" wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:07:40 -0600, David Rankin wrote:
> >Trivia:
> >
> >OV-98 (Drop test vehicle - never flown aside from glide tests pre STS-1)
>
> Wasn't this named Enterprise? I remember a big deal about Trekkers trying
> to get a shuttle named after the ship in Star Trek.
>
> >OV-99 Challenger
> >OV-102 Columbia
> >OV-103 Discovery
> >OV-104 Atlantis
> >OV-105-Endeavor
> >
> >
> >--
> >David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
> >Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
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> >- Original Message -----
> >From: "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:23 PM
> >Subject: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.
> >
> >
> >>Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the
> >>"Columbia" we
> >>should be remembering..
> >>
> >>Challanger happened 17 years ago.
> >>
> >>rgds
> >>
> >>Frank
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James
> >>Sparenberg
> >>Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
> >>To: Expert List
> >>Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.
> >>
> >>
> >>In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.
> >>Please a
> >>moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
> >>problem" can bring.
> >>
> >>I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women
> >>from
> >>many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this
> >>list.
> >>Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that
> >>your
> >>God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.
> >>
> >>
> >>James Sparenberg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-10 Thread David Rankin
Yep, it was enterprise.

"Matthew O. Persico" wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:07:40 -0600, David Rankin wrote:
> >Trivia:
> >
> >OV-98 (Drop test vehicle - never flown aside from glide tests pre STS-1)
>
> Wasn't this named Enterprise? I remember a big deal about Trekkers trying
> to get a shuttle named after the ship in Star Trek.
>
> >OV-99 Challenger
> >OV-102 Columbia
> >OV-103 Discovery
> >OV-104 Atlantis
> >OV-105-Endeavor
> >
> >
> >--
> >David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
> >Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
> >510 Ochiltree Street
> >Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> >(936) 715-9333
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:23 PM
> >Subject: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.
> >
> >
> >>Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the
> >>"Columbia" we
> >>should be remembering..
> >>
> >>Challanger happened 17 years ago.
> >>
> >>rgds
> >>
> >>Frank
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James
> >>Sparenberg
> >>Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
> >>To: Expert List
> >>Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.
> >>
> >>
> >>In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.
> >>Please a
> >>moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
> >>problem" can bring.
> >>
> >>I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women
> >>from
> >>many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this
> >>list.
> >>Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that
> >>your
> >>God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.
> >>
> >>
> >>James Sparenberg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >-
> >---
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-06 Thread Jim C
I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner.  At least they finally got some 
budget.

Franki wrote:
I don't mean to be unsensitive to the tragedy.. but taking that into
account..

I'd be starting to worry alittle if I was a Discovery astronaut...

they seem to be failing in order.


rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Rankin
Sent: Friday, 7 February 2003 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.


Trivia:

OV-98 (Drop test vehicle - never flown aside from glide tests pre STS-1)
OV-99 Challenger
OV-102 Columbia
OV-103 Discovery
OV-104 Atlantis
OV-105-Endeavor


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- Original Message -
From: "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:23 PM
Subject: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.




Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the "Columbia" we
should be remembering..

Challanger happened 17 years ago.

rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg
Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
To: Expert List
Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.


In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.  Please a
moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
problem" can bring.

I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from
many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list.
Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your
God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.


James Sparenberg

















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RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-06 Thread Franki
I don't mean to be unsensitive to the tragedy.. but taking that into
account..

I'd be starting to worry alittle if I was a Discovery astronaut...

they seem to be failing in order.


rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Rankin
Sent: Friday, 7 February 2003 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.


Trivia:

OV-98 (Drop test vehicle - never flown aside from glide tests pre STS-1)
OV-99 Challenger
OV-102 Columbia
OV-103 Discovery
OV-104 Atlantis
OV-105-Endeavor


--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
- Original Message -
From: "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:23 PM
Subject: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.


> Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the "Columbia" we
> should be remembering..
>
> Challanger happened 17 years ago.
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg
> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
> To: Expert List
> Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.
>
>
> In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.  Please a
> moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
> problem" can bring.
>
> I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from
> many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list.
> Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your
> God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.
>
>
> James Sparenberg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






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Re: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-06 Thread Matthew O. Persico
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:07:40 -0600, David Rankin wrote:
>Trivia:
>
>OV-98 (Drop test vehicle - never flown aside from glide tests pre STS-1)

Wasn't this named Enterprise? I remember a big deal about Trekkers trying
to get a shuttle named after the ship in Star Trek.

>OV-99 Challenger
>OV-102 Columbia
>OV-103 Discovery
>OV-104 Atlantis
>OV-105-Endeavor
>
>
>--
>David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
>Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
>510 Ochiltree Street
>Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
>(936) 715-9333
>- Original Message -
>From: "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:23 PM
>Subject: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.
>
>
>>Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the
>>"Columbia" we
>>should be remembering..
>>
>>Challanger happened 17 years ago.
>>
>>rgds
>>
>>Frank
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James
>>Sparenberg
>>Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
>>To: Expert List
>>Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.
>>
>>
>>In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.
>>Please a
>>moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
>>problem" can bring.
>>
>>I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women
>>from
>>many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this
>>list.
>>Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that
>>your
>>God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.
>>
>>
>>James Sparenberg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>-
>---
>
>
>
>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Re: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-06 Thread David Rankin
Trivia:

OV-98 (Drop test vehicle - never flown aside from glide tests pre STS-1)
OV-99 Challenger
OV-102 Columbia
OV-103 Discovery
OV-104 Atlantis
OV-105-Endeavor


--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
- Original Message -
From: "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:23 PM
Subject: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.


> Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the "Columbia" we
> should be remembering..
>
> Challanger happened 17 years ago.
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg
> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
> To: Expert List
> Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.
>
>
> In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.  Please a
> moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
> problem" can bring.
>
> I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from
> many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list.
> Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your
> God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.
>
>
> James Sparenberg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






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RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-02 Thread Mark Belanger
On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 19:36, James Sparenberg wrote:
> No I was sitting when I typed this so I sat corrected

Oh, OK.  I crouch corrected.

-Mark

> 
> James
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 16:04, Mark Belanger wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 17:42, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > I sit corrected and shouldn't type at 6am...I apologize.
> > 
> > Actually, you "stand" corrected.
> > 
> > Maybe you shouldn't type at 6pm either :)
> > 
> > -Mark
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 19:23, Franki wrote:
> > > > Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the "Columbia" we
> > > > should be remembering..
> > > > 
> > > > Challanger happened 17 years ago.
> > > > 
> > > > rgds
> > > > 
> > > > Frank
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg
> > > > Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
> > > > To: Expert List
> > > > Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.  Please a
> > > > moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
> > > > problem" can bring.
> > > > 
> > > > I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from
> > > > many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list.
> > > > Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your
> > > > God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > James Sparenberg
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
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RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-02 Thread James Sparenberg
No I was sitting when I typed this so I sat corrected

James


On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 16:04, Mark Belanger wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 17:42, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > I sit corrected and shouldn't type at 6am...I apologize.
> 
> Actually, you "stand" corrected.
> 
> Maybe you shouldn't type at 6pm either :)
> 
> -Mark
> 
> > 
> > On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 19:23, Franki wrote:
> > > Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the "Columbia" we
> > > should be remembering..
> > > 
> > > Challanger happened 17 years ago.
> > > 
> > > rgds
> > > 
> > > Frank
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg
> > > Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
> > > To: Expert List
> > > Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.  Please a
> > > moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
> > > problem" can bring.
> > > 
> > > I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from
> > > many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list.
> > > Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your
> > > God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > James Sparenberg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-02 Thread Mark Belanger
On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 17:42, James Sparenberg wrote:
> I sit corrected and shouldn't type at 6am...I apologize.

Actually, you "stand" corrected.

Maybe you shouldn't type at 6pm either :)

-Mark

> 
> On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 19:23, Franki wrote:
> > Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the "Columbia" we
> > should be remembering..
> > 
> > Challanger happened 17 years ago.
> > 
> > rgds
> > 
> > Frank
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg
> > Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
> > To: Expert List
> > Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.
> > 
> > 
> > In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.  Please a
> > moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
> > problem" can bring.
> > 
> > I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from
> > many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list.
> > Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your
> > God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.
> > 
> > 
> > James Sparenberg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-02 Thread James Sparenberg
I sit corrected and shouldn't type at 6am...I apologize.

On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 19:23, Franki wrote:
> Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the "Columbia" we
> should be remembering..
> 
> Challanger happened 17 years ago.
> 
> rgds
> 
> Frank
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg
> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
> To: Expert List
> Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.
> 
> 
> In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.  Please a
> moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
> problem" can bring.
> 
> I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from
> many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list.
> Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your
> God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.
> 
> 
> James Sparenberg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.

2003-02-01 Thread Franki
Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the "Columbia" we
should be remembering..

Challanger happened 17 years ago.

rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg
Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM
To: Expert List
Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence.


In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger.  Please a
moment of silence.  And an awareness of the tragic effect a "small
problem" can bring.

I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from
many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list.
Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your
God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost.


James Sparenberg







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