Re: [expert] IE & wine
Am Mit, 2002-06-12 um 19.56 schrieb Peter Ruskin: > On Wednesday 12 Jun 2002 15:38, Udo Rader wrote: > > hi list, > > > > for various reasons I need (please note: "need", not "want" ...) to > > have a running IE5.x (or IE6.x) running on my lm 8.2 box. > > > > lacking a windows license it is no option for me to use vmware/win4lin, > > so I decided to give wine a try ... > > > > has anybody got any experience with wine under LM8.2 in general (I > > installed the snapshot from the club-members downloads-page) and with > > installing & running IE on it? > > > > any suggestions are welcome! > > > > thanks > > > > udo > > It works here Udo. I'm using Codeweavers wine (because it works) on 8.2. > I have a native Windows98 partition mounted on /mnt/win/c. So my command > for what you want is... > wine "/mnt/win/c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe" hi peter, thanks for your response, but this is no option for me - I have no legal windows license left, so I have no native stuff installed. udo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] IE & wine
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 22:29, civileme wrote: > Well, crossover office _might_ work but no guarantees. Office and IE > cdo not use standard Windows Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) > of which there are about 60,000. Microsoft used their special knowledge > of the system to make their applications more competitive by talking > directly to the windows kernel(s). The result is that security on > Windows systems goes from fair (at least on NT-based systems like NT4 > W2K and XP) to abysmal when you start using M$ apps, cause those apps > provide superhighways into the kernel in privileged mode. Actually, with the newest version of Crossover Office (just released the other day) IE 5 is now an officially supported program. And of course Office works under Crossover Office. Vince Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] IE & wine
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:29:39 -0800, civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony S. Sykes wrote: > > >Codeweavers crossover office 1.1 is what you need. www.codeweavers.com > >-Original Message- > >From: Udo Rader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:38 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: [expert] IE & wine > > > > > >hi list, > > > >for various reasons I need (please note: "need", not "want" ...) to have > >a running IE5.x (or IE6.x) running on my lm 8.2 box. > > > >lacking a windows license it is no option for me to use vmware/win4lin, > >so I decided to give wine a try ... > > > >has anybody got any experience with wine under LM8.2 in general (I > >installed the snapshot from the club-members downloads-page) and with > >installing & running IE on it? > > > >any suggestions are welcome! > > > >thanks > > > >udo > > > Well, crossover office _might_ work but no guarantees. Office and IE > cdo not use standard Windows Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) > of which there are about 60,000. Microsoft used their special knowledge > of the system to make their applications more competitive by talking > directly to the windows kernel(s). Don't you mean more _anti-competitive_ ? :) > The result is that security on > Windows systems goes from fair (at least on NT-based systems like NT4 > W2K and XP) to abysmal when you start using M$ apps, cause those apps > provide superhighways into the kernel in privileged mode. Which is why the worst thing you can do with an MS operating system is to run MS apps on it... > Anyway, codeweavers did a great job on Office, but there may well be no > way at this time to run IE on a linux system. According to their press release (http://www.codeweavers.com/about/press_releases/?id=20020611), CodeWeavers is now officially supporting both Outlook and IE in CrossOver Office 1.1.0. > Opera can claim to be IE > and often that is good enough. Mozilla, Galeon and Konqueror can do this as well. > Civileme -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "Recently I bought Office XP. It was quite unpleasant feeling giving so much money for so buggy product. ... Solution: Uninstall Office XP and Windows." -- Georgi Guninski, security expert, http://www.guninski.com, 2001-07-12 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] IE & wine
> Anyway, codeweavers did a great job on Office, but there may well be no > way at this time to run IE on a linux system. Opera can claim to be IE > and often that is good enough. > > Civileme > .. well, i did run IE in wine a couple of times, it was a nightmare as a browser, unstable and slower than Opera, but it did work. i even loaded java applets and flash trash in it.. i also got some of the Office suite to open up. it was, to say it in a single word, unusable. ( fonts, opening files, practically nothing worked ) all of this using codeweavers wine. so, the point is i think IE is possible, but office is a longer shot. oh, and by the way, opening MS Word thru wine ( which means opening up the wineserver and all that stuff wine does before the actual program begins to run ) is still WAY faster than OpenOffice. i mean i can open 4 instances of word thru wine while i watch the OpenOffice splash. :o( i think the OO guys have reached a somewhat mature point of usability and should focus on optimisation now.. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] IE & wine
Tony S. Sykes wrote: >Codeweavers crossover office 1.1 is what you need. www.codeweavers.com >-Original Message- >From: Udo Rader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:38 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [expert] IE & wine > > >hi list, > >for various reasons I need (please note: "need", not "want" ...) to have >a running IE5.x (or IE6.x) running on my lm 8.2 box. > >lacking a windows license it is no option for me to use vmware/win4lin, >so I decided to give wine a try ... > >has anybody got any experience with wine under LM8.2 in general (I >installed the snapshot from the club-members downloads-page) and with >installing & running IE on it? > >any suggestions are welcome! > >thanks > >udo > Well, crossover office _might_ work but no guarantees. Office and IE cdo not use standard Windows Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) of which there are about 60,000. Microsoft used their special knowledge of the system to make their applications more competitive by talking directly to the windows kernel(s). The result is that security on Windows systems goes from fair (at least on NT-based systems like NT4 W2K and XP) to abysmal when you start using M$ apps, cause those apps provide superhighways into the kernel in privileged mode. Anyway, codeweavers did a great job on Office, but there may well be no way at this time to run IE on a linux system. Opera can claim to be IE and often that is good enough. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] IE & wine
On Wednesday 12 Jun 2002 15:55, Praedor Tempus wrote: > I generally use either codeweaver's wine or transgaming's wine, for > former because of the very nice tools for installation and setup (and > it tends to work better for me than snapshots from winehq) and the > latter for games - NOTHING beats transgaming for game playing ability. > > I have been able to get IE 4.0 to run under codeweaver wine, had mixed > success with late 2001 versions of wine from winehq. Transgaming isn't > very good at this sort of app in general. I haven't tried more recent > snapshots from winehq. > > As for post-IE 4.0 versions and wine, I was unable to get any of them > to work. IE 4.0 works fine except for the icons on the nav bar being > blacked out. You may have better luck with more recent IE's with a > recent wine...all I can say is try. It is really the only way to find > out. > My IE version 6.0 works fine with Codeweavers. > praedor > > On Wednesday 12 June 2002 09:38 am, Udo Rader wrote: > > hi list, > > > > for various reasons I need (please note: "need", not "want" ...) to > > have a running IE5.x (or IE6.x) running on my lm 8.2 box. > > > > lacking a windows license it is no option for me to use > > vmware/win4lin, so I decided to give wine a try ... > > > > has anybody got any experience with wine under LM8.2 in general (I > > installed the snapshot from the club-members downloads-page) and with > > installing & running IE on it? > > > > any suggestions are welcome! > > > > thanks > > > > udo -- Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Bluebird) for i586 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ 512MB Kernel: 2.4.18-6mdk-pnr-win4lin KDE: 3.0.1 Qt: 3.0.4 up 7 hours 9 minutes. ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] IE & wine
On Wednesday 12 Jun 2002 15:38, Udo Rader wrote: > hi list, > > for various reasons I need (please note: "need", not "want" ...) to > have a running IE5.x (or IE6.x) running on my lm 8.2 box. > > lacking a windows license it is no option for me to use vmware/win4lin, > so I decided to give wine a try ... > > has anybody got any experience with wine under LM8.2 in general (I > installed the snapshot from the club-members downloads-page) and with > installing & running IE on it? > > any suggestions are welcome! > > thanks > > udo It works here Udo. I'm using Codeweavers wine (because it works) on 8.2. I have a native Windows98 partition mounted on /mnt/win/c. So my command for what you want is... wine "/mnt/win/c/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe" I'd attach a screenshot as proof but my screen resolution is 1280x1024 and the attachment would be too big. -- Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Bluebird) for i586 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ 512MB Kernel: 2.4.18-6mdk-pnr-win4lin KDE: 3.0.1 Qt: 3.0.4 up 7 hours 1 minute. ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] IE & wine
I generally use either codeweaver's wine or transgaming's wine, for former because of the very nice tools for installation and setup (and it tends to work better for me than snapshots from winehq) and the latter for games - NOTHING beats transgaming for game playing ability. I have been able to get IE 4.0 to run under codeweaver wine, had mixed success with late 2001 versions of wine from winehq. Transgaming isn't very good at this sort of app in general. I haven't tried more recent snapshots from winehq. As for post-IE 4.0 versions and wine, I was unable to get any of them to work. IE 4.0 works fine except for the icons on the nav bar being blacked out. You may have better luck with more recent IE's with a recent wine...all I can say is try. It is really the only way to find out. praedor On Wednesday 12 June 2002 09:38 am, Udo Rader wrote: > hi list, > > for various reasons I need (please note: "need", not "want" ...) to have > a running IE5.x (or IE6.x) running on my lm 8.2 box. > > lacking a windows license it is no option for me to use vmware/win4lin, > so I decided to give wine a try ... > > has anybody got any experience with wine under LM8.2 in general (I > installed the snapshot from the club-members downloads-page) and with > installing & running IE on it? > > any suggestions are welcome! > > thanks > > udo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] IE & wine
udo, Codeweavers crossover office 1.1 is what you need. www.codeweavers.com Tony. -Original Message- From: Udo Rader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] IE & wine hi list, for various reasons I need (please note: "need", not "want" ...) to have a running IE5.x (or IE6.x) running on my lm 8.2 box. lacking a windows license it is no option for me to use vmware/win4lin, so I decided to give wine a try ... has anybody got any experience with wine under LM8.2 in general (I installed the snapshot from the club-members downloads-page) and with installing & running IE on it? any suggestions are welcome! thanks udo -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd, unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] IE & wine
Codeweavers crossover office 1.1 is what you need. www.codeweavers.com -Original Message- From: Udo Rader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] IE & wine hi list, for various reasons I need (please note: "need", not "want" ...) to have a running IE5.x (or IE6.x) running on my lm 8.2 box. lacking a windows license it is no option for me to use vmware/win4lin, so I decided to give wine a try ... has anybody got any experience with wine under LM8.2 in general (I installed the snapshot from the club-members downloads-page) and with installing & running IE on it? any suggestions are welcome! thanks udo -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd, unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Codeweavers.url Description: Codeweavers.url Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
