RE: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Daryl Johnson

No, sadly, all the windows password encryptions are working ok - as verified
by just using ordinary shares.  It's when I try to set up my linux box as
the domain controller that the problem arises.

As far as I can be certain it is fairly and squarely down to the gotcha
whereby the nt4 net logon service fails to start owing to the domain already
being controlled by the samba server.  Since this is required to do the
logon...

In fairness it is mentioned in the gotchas text but I was hoping for a work
around - or for someone to say that they were using their linux boxes as pdc
with nt4 clients without any problems.

Daryl Johnson
Proplan Associates
07710 908817


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Tharp
> Sent: 09 April 2001 11:49
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
>
>
> could this be a problem with windows encrypted password? one set (win 9x
> default I believe) set to encrypt the password to linux and the other
> passing the password "in the clear" so to speak?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 4:05 AM
> Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha
>
>
> > I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am
> using samba as
> > the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy
> with this.
> I
> > have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on
> account
> > of the net logon service failing to start.
> >
> > Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for
> Samba
> > v3
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Daryl
> >
> > Daryl Johnson
> > Proplan Associates
> >
> >
>
>
>





Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Andrew George

On Mon,  9 Apr 2001 20:11, Chris Slater-Walker wrote:
> The last time I looked (Samba 2.07) it was _not_ capable of functioning as
> a PDC or BDC for NT/Win2000 clients - only Win9x. I think you will find
> that this functionality is due for release with Samba 2.1
>
> Chris Slater-Walker
>
Err...2.0.7 will function well as a PDC for anything before w2k, with the 
exception that it can't replicate the database (so it can't act as a BDC or 
talk to any BDC's).
Samba TNG and 2.2 can act as a PDC on win2k


> - Original Message -
> From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:05 AM
> Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha
>
> > I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba
> > as the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with
> > this.
>
> I
>
> > have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on
>
> account
>
> > of the net logon service failing to start.
> >
> > Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for
>
> Samba
>
> > v3
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Daryl
> >
> > Daryl Johnson
> > Proplan Associates




Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Ed Tharp

could this be a problem with windows encrypted password? one set (win 9x
default I believe) set to encrypt the password to linux and the other
passing the password "in the clear" so to speak?
- Original Message -
From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 4:05 AM
Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha


> I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as
> the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this.
I
> have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on
account
> of the net logon service failing to start.
>
> Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for
Samba
> v3
>
> regards
>
> Daryl
>
> Daryl Johnson
> Proplan Associates
>
>





Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Andrew George

On Mon,  9 Apr 2001 18:05, Daryl Johnson wrote:
> I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as
> the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. 
> I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on
> account of the net logon service failing to start.
>
> Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba
> v3

Umm...you have done all the encrypted/cleartext password stuff when you set 
up Samba?
ie...which did you do...told NT to run Clear passwords or told 95 to run 
encrypted?




Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Chris Slater-Walker

The last time I looked (Samba 2.07) it was _not_ capable of functioning as a
PDC or BDC for NT/Win2000 clients - only Win9x. I think you will find that
this functionality is due for release with Samba 2.1

Chris Slater-Walker

- Original Message -
From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:05 AM
Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha


> I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as
> the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this.
I
> have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on
account
> of the net logon service failing to start.
>
> Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for
Samba
> v3
>
> regards
>
> Daryl
>
> Daryl Johnson
> Proplan Associates
>
>





Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Mattias Segerdahl

Try booting the ordinary wmlinuz kernel and see if it works... Check your lilo.conf 
for more information..

// Mattias

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From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [expert] Samba Gotcha


> I'm using medium security - how would I know the differencebetween kernels?
> 
> Daryl Johnson
> Proplan Associates
>  
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mattias Segerdahl
> > Sent: 09 April 2001 09:13
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
> > 
> > 
> > Are you booting the secure or nonsecure kernel?
> > 
> > The secure kernel dosn't handle samba very well since it dosn't 
> > allow access to the shared memory..
> > 
> > // Mattias
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:05 AM
> > Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha
> > 
> > 
> > > I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am 
> > using samba as
> > > the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy 
> > with this.  I
> > > have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the 
> > domain on account
> > > of the net logon service failing to start.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to 
> > waiting for Samba
> > > v3
> > > 
> > > regards
> > > 
> > > Daryl
> > > 
> > > Daryl Johnson
> > > Proplan Associates
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> >





RE: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Daryl Johnson

I'm using medium security - how would I know the differencebetween kernels?

Daryl Johnson
Proplan Associates
 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mattias Segerdahl
> Sent: 09 April 2001 09:13
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
> 
> 
> Are you booting the secure or nonsecure kernel?
> 
> The secure kernel dosn't handle samba very well since it dosn't 
> allow access to the shared memory..
> 
> // Mattias
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:05 AM
> Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha
> 
> 
> > I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am 
> using samba as
> > the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy 
> with this.  I
> > have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the 
> domain on account
> > of the net logon service failing to start.
> > 
> > Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to 
> waiting for Samba
> > v3
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > Daryl
> > 
> > Daryl Johnson
> > Proplan Associates
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 




Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Mattias Segerdahl

Are you booting the secure or nonsecure kernel?

The secure kernel dosn't handle samba very well since it dosn't allow access to the 
shared memory..

// Mattias
- Original Message - 
From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:05 AM
Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha


> I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as
> the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this.  I
> have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account
> of the net logon service failing to start.
> 
> Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba
> v3
> 
> regards
> 
> Daryl
> 
> Daryl Johnson
> Proplan Associates
> 
>