Re: [expert] Xwindow display quality. fonts
Chances are what you're talking about is anti-aliasing, where the edges of a piece of text are blended into the background to prevent th appearance of pixelization. It will be a part of all KDE apps within a couple of months, and GNOME apps sometime afterwards (around nine months, IIRC). Mike Neal Lippman wrote: > One thing I have noticed is that the "quality" of my display, by which I mean > the sharpness of text on the screen and the quality of the fonts, just > doesn't seem as good under X as it does under Windows booted on the same > system. (For reference, I am using KDE 2.0, mdk 7.2 with kernel upgraded to > 2.4.1, and X 3.3.x - haven't had a chance yet to wrestle with installing > 4.0.2, but that's on my list). I have the x font server running. Video card > is an nVidia GeForce II MX. But again, it's not a hardware issue per se, > because I am comparing X to windows on the same system. > > Why is the quality so much worse under X than windows? Is this just a matter > of not having tweaked my x settings - I deliberately haven't because a) I AM > planning to get to X 4.0.2 REAL SOON NOW and b) the monitor I am using isn't > going to be permanent on this system as soon as I get the dough collected for > a new one, so maybe I just need some more tweaking. However, I find it hard > to believe that the basic defaults of X are so much inferior to the defaults > under Windows, which I understand tends to run monitors at the lowest end of > their tolerances anyway. > > Another issue: X comes with a limited set of not-very-nice appearing fonts, > while I seem to have hundreds of nice looking fonts under windows with Office > 2K intalled. I assume there is somewhere that I can get a nicer selection of > fonts for X...perhaps the 100dpi font RPM for X 4.0.2 is where I should be > looking. > > Any ideas / suggestions? If it would help, I could upload my x config file > too... > > Neal -- -- Mike MacCana Support Consultant C Y B E R S O U R C E Level 9, 140 Queen St Melbourne 3000 Ph : +61 3 9642 5997 Fax: +61 3 9642 5998
Re: [expert] Xwindow graphic
Try drakxconf, should be in /usr/sbin/. M. Ti Nu wrote: > > Hi > > I am using Mandrake 7.1, I am using Trident Blade 3D video card and a > generic monitor. Although I config it right (I think) but I still get > a very bad graphic. Does anyone know the way to chose the best > graphic for it ( When I install, the installation graphic was very > great). Also does anyone know how to change those video card setting > inside xwindows. I tried to find drakconf but it seem does not exist > ($ which drakconf gave me the no result). though the > installation I already checked on the drakconf during the > installation, So what should I do. > > > > Thank > > -- > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com . > > --- > Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: > Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- Michael Proto [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mp3.com/protologic "What, me worry?" -A.E.Newman Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Xwindow
Stephen F Bosch wrote: > > Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > > Stephen Bosch wrote: > > > > > > Better yet, use ssh to make your console connections to the remote > > > machine. ssh will do two nice things: > > > > > > 1) ssh will by default set your DISPLAY variable when you connect > > > 2) ssh does display forwarding so that all your X traffic is encrypted, > > > too. > > > > Strangely, I've never gotten this to work either to a remote machine or > > locally. Never fully investigated, except to ensure forwarding was enabled... > > [time passes...] > > I just tried again and it worked... as root. > > >From the same command window, I get: > > [pfortin@bones Security]$ ssh -X bones > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: > > Last login: Sun Sep 10 00:24:56 2000 > > [pfortin@bones pfortin]$ emacs junk > > channel 0: istate 4 != open > > channel 0: ostate 64 != open > > Error: Couldn't find per display information > > [pfortin@bones pfortin]$ > > > > I can't find the above error string in any of the binaries/libraries. > > > > Does this sound familiar to anyone? > > Well... > > I recently had a problem on one of my machines and finally discovered > that it was because ssh looks in /etc/hosts or something... I had some > bad information in there (grr... it escapes me exactly *what* was > wrong)... A valiant effort; but no... the only anomoly I can find is: sshd: 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.255 fails to allow "ssh [-X] localhost", while: sshd: 127.0.0.0/255.255.255.252 works. Strange since both are valid IP/mask pairs. Even: sshd: 127.0.0.0/255.255.255.254 works. This one is dubious since the mask is really insufficient for [sub]netting; though valid for strict host masking. At any rate, I can ssh fine as either root or pfortin. X only works if I am root; not as pfortin. Sounds like a permissions/authority problem since authentication works. Thanks, Pierre > but you might try examining those things more closely. > > Though my guess is that there is something wrong with your display > forwarding (as opposed to just the variable). > > -Stephen- > > > Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: > Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- Linux (Up 52 days) -- Reboots are for system upgrades... Last reboot reason: Installed new BackUPS power supply. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Xwindow
The guys at www.ltsp.org are using VNC sometimes as a faster way to X serve - Original Message - From: Dave Peat To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:29 PM Subject: RE: [expert] Xwindow I actually use VNC as well, but it is more of a remote control application rather than a Xwindow terminal. Thanks for the info though. Anyone who doesn't know about VNC definately should! It is a pretty good program and as you nentioned, the price is right. Dave Registered User # 184784>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/00 07:54AM >>> I have been using VNC. A tad clunky, but works well and the price is right. http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvncviewer.html -Original Message-[Lyle] From: Dave Peat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:51 AMTo: <Subject: [expert] Xwindow Does anyone know of a Xwindow program that I can use to Xwindow from one Linux box to another. Right now I can use Exceed on Windoze and run a xsession to my Linux box. I want to do the same from one Linux box to another. Thanks, Dave Registered User # 184784
Re: [expert] Xwindow
vnc is not crap - its actually quite a lot faster over a modem connection than pure X when the app has a complicated graphical display. It also has the advantage that if a modem drops out or you want to move to a different machine, the session and all apps are still active on reconnect. Then there's the fact that it can be accessed by any java capable browser so the standalone vnc client is not even required. This works quite well through netscape. VNC is also a bit more secure than X, can use ssh, uses diffent ports so firewall does not have to pierced to at vulnerable X ports ... Oh, its also easier to understand for the inexperianced!, xhost and authorization can be a nightmare for X. BillK Sarang Lakare wrote: > So don't tell us that VNC is good and other crap.. you dont' need it if u > are using Linux/Unix.. > Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Xwindow
Sarang Lakare wrote: > > Dave, > > VNC is for those _crappy_ OSes that do now have XWindows inbuilt.. Linux > and other Unices have XWindows builtin... thus it dosn't matter what > machine u are running the program on.. u can always just telnet/ssh to taht > machine and run the program there, but the display will be on u're screen.. > thats the strength of unix. > > On Windoze, u need to buy a program which can emulate X on u're machine.. > and that way u'll be able to run X apps from a remote machine on u're > machine.. > > So don't tell us that VNC is good and other crap.. you dont' need it if u > are using Linux/Unix.. > > Everybody here is trying to tell you that and you are not able to > understand! My, my, my. Young Mr. Lakare is *so* full of piss & vinegar, and thinks he knows so much... Ron -- +--+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA WWW : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | Most overused words: feel, cool/kewl, fun, myBlah.com| | Most underused word: think | +--+ Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Xwindow
Pierre Fortin wrote: > > Stephen Bosch wrote: > > > > Better yet, use ssh to make your console connections to the remote > > machine. ssh will do two nice things: > > > > 1) ssh will by default set your DISPLAY variable when you connect > > 2) ssh does display forwarding so that all your X traffic is encrypted, > > too. > > Strangely, I've never gotten this to work either to a remote machine or > locally. Never fully investigated, except to ensure forwarding was enabled... > [time passes...] > I just tried again and it worked... as root. > >From the same command window, I get: > [pfortin@bones Security]$ ssh -X bones > [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: > Last login: Sun Sep 10 00:24:56 2000 > [pfortin@bones pfortin]$ emacs junk > channel 0: istate 4 != open > channel 0: ostate 64 != open > Error: Couldn't find per display information > [pfortin@bones pfortin]$ > > I can't find the above error string in any of the binaries/libraries. > > Does this sound familiar to anyone? Well... I recently had a problem on one of my machines and finally discovered that it was because ssh looks in /etc/hosts or something... I had some bad information in there (grr... it escapes me exactly *what* was wrong)... but you might try examining those things more closely. Though my guess is that there is something wrong with your display forwarding (as opposed to just the variable). -Stephen- Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Xwindow
Sarang Lakare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/13/2000 02:16:16 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Dave Peat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>(bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower) Subject: Re: [expert] Xwindow Um.ok no need to get rude people ... there is another setting you will have to look at to export your display properly appart from just doing a manual export ex export DISPLAY=:0.0 do a man on xhost ;-) Lonny Selinger Dave, VNC is for those _crappy_ OSes that do now have XWindows inbuilt.. Linux and other Unices have XWindows builtin... thus it dosn't matter what machine u are running the program on.. u can always just telnet/ssh to taht machine and run the program there, but the display will be on u're screen.. thats the strength of unix. On Windoze, u need to buy a program which can emulate X on u're machine.. and that way u'll be able to run X apps from a remote machine on u're machine.. So don't tell us that VNC is good and other crap.. you dont' need it if u are using Linux/Unix.. Everybody here is trying to tell you that and you are not able to understand! Also, tehre is a way to logon from another machine and display on u're screen as if its connected to taht remote machine.. I am nto sure exactly how.. there are infinite cool things u can do with XWindows! it simply _rocks_ -sarang Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Xwindow
Dave, VNC is for those _crappy_ OSes that do now have XWindows inbuilt.. Linux and other Unices have XWindows builtin... thus it dosn't matter what machine u are running the program on.. u can always just telnet/ssh to taht machine and run the program there, but the display will be on u're screen.. thats the strength of unix. On Windoze, u need to buy a program which can emulate X on u're machine.. and that way u'll be able to run X apps from a remote machine on u're machine.. So don't tell us that VNC is good and other crap.. you dont' need it if u are using Linux/Unix.. Everybody here is trying to tell you that and you are not able to understand! Also, tehre is a way to logon from another machine and display on u're screen as if its connected to taht remote machine.. I am nto sure exactly how.. there are infinite cool things u can do with XWindows! it simply _rocks_ -sarang Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Xwindow
> Does anyone know of a Xwindow program that I can use to Xwindow from one Li= > nux box to another. Right now I can use Exceed on Windoze and run a xsessi= > on to my Linux box. I want to do the same from one Linux box to another. > Thanks, Try here. http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue27/kaszeta.html It's supposed to be about using old PCs, but the concept is the same. MB -- Michael R. Batchelor - Industrial Informatics & Instrumentation, Inc. Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Xwindow
Stephen Bosch wrote: > > "Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)" wrote: > > > XWindows was designed around Unix. Just set the DISPLAY environment > > variable at the command (telnet) prompt before starting the program that > > uses X. The format is host:session where session is usually 0. > > e.g. DISPLAY=192.168.1.5:0 > > > > If the X command gives a display fail error, you need to use xhost (man > > xhost) to allow a connection from the remote computer. > > Better yet, use ssh to make your console connections to the remote > machine. ssh will do two nice things: > > 1) ssh will by default set your DISPLAY variable when you connect > 2) ssh does display forwarding so that all your X traffic is encrypted, > too. Strangely, I've never gotten this to work either to a remote machine or locally. Never fully investigated, except to ensure forwarding was enabled... [time passes...] I just tried again and it worked... as root. >From the same command window, I get: [pfortin@bones Security]$ ssh -X bones [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Last login: Sun Sep 10 00:24:56 2000 [pfortin@bones pfortin]$ emacs junk channel 0: istate 4 != open channel 0: ostate 64 != open Error: Couldn't find per display information [pfortin@bones pfortin]$ I can't find the above error string in any of the binaries/libraries. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Pierre > Easier and more secure. > > -Stephen- > > > Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: > Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- Linux (Up 52 days) -- Reboots are for system upgrades... Last reboot reason: Installed new BackUPS power supply. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] Xwindow
I actually use VNC as well, but it is more of a remote control application rather than a Xwindow terminal. Thanks for the info though. Anyone who doesn't know about VNC definately should! It is a pretty good program and as you nentioned, the price is right. Dave Registered User # 184784>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/00 07:54AM >>> I have been using VNC. A tad clunky, but works well and the price is right. http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvncviewer.html -Original Message-[Lyle] From: Dave Peat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:51 AMTo:
RE: [expert] Xwindow
You don't need a special program. X is DESIGNED to do this: telnet other.machine (or rsh or ssh) export DISPLAY=my.machine:0 xterm (or gimp or whatever) Stew Benedict 11:37am up 2 days, 20:19, 2 users, load average: 1.21, 1.95, 1.91 Have you had your Open Source today? if not, why not!? Stew Benedict http://www.crosswinds.net/~stewb [EMAIL PROTECTED] iMacLinux http://www.imaclinux.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nopehttp://nope.sourceforge.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] XStick http://xstick.sourceforge.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] AYS Enterprises http://www.aysenterprises.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] Xwindow
"Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)" wrote: > XWindows was designed around Unix. Just set the DISPLAY environment > variable at the command (telnet) prompt before starting the program that > uses X. The format is host:session where session is usually 0. > e.g. DISPLAY=192.168.1.5:0 > > If the X command gives a display fail error, you need to use xhost (man > xhost) to allow a connection from the remote computer. Better yet, use ssh to make your console connections to the remote machine. ssh will do two nice things: 1) ssh will by default set your DISPLAY variable when you connect 2) ssh does display forwarding so that all your X traffic is encrypted, too. Easier and more secure. -Stephen- Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re:[expert]Xwindow
This bit from linux.com sounds like what you're looking for. Gene http://linux.com/tuneup/database.phtml/X11/001906.html Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] Xwindow
XWindows was designed around Unix. Just set the DISPLAY environment variable at the command (telnet) prompt before starting the program that uses X. The format is host:session where session is usually 0. e.g. DISPLAY=192.168.1.5:0 If the X command gives a display fail error, you need to use xhost (man xhost) to allow a connection from the remote computer. Matthew Zaleski -Original Message- From: Lyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:55 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] Xwindow I have been using VNC. A tad clunky, but works well and the price is right. http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvncviewer.html -Original Message-[Lyle] From: Dave Peat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:51 AM To: < Subject: [expert] Xwindow Does anyone know of a Xwindow program that I can use to Xwindow from one Linux box to another. Right now I can use Exceed on Windoze and run a xsession to my Linux box. I want to do the same from one Linux box to another. Thanks, Dave Registered User # 184784 Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] Xwindow
I have been using VNC. A tad clunky, but works well and the price is right. http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvncviewer.html -Original Message-[Lyle] From: Dave Peat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:51 AMTo: