Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?

2003-11-18 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3729 days Rob Blomquist wrote:

> So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you 
> use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know, cause 
> I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer.

  I urpmi...I've been urpmi'ing since 8.1 (or 8.2). Some times strange
  things happen with some packages, like happened with the kde split
  of 9.1-9.2 but if you pay attention, it's usually easy to fix
  afterwards. 

  Vox

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Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?

2003-11-18 Thread Angelo Naselli

--- Rob Blomquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> With the upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, the Mandrake
> upgrade worked pretty well, 
> seeming to upgrade the stuff that needed, leaving
> alone the stuff that 
> didn't.
I cannot say the same thing because i had some porblem
with kde menus, but i came from 8.2 before and 
something of kde 2.2 survived.

> 
> Now, 9.1 to 9.2 club, that was a fiasco. I finally
> moved my /home to a new 
> partition, and blasted out /boot and /, installing
> in clean partitions. But 
> what was left over was uploading all the little
> programs I like, say 
> bidwatcher, KSetiSpy, Audacity, and the like, and
> nuking all the stuff I 
> don't: devfs and supermount to name two. Then
> configuring a new hosts file, 
> and setting up fstab to mount all the drives like I
> want them.
I had a lot of problem me either. I had to use grub
instead of linux when installation finished because
of errors i don't understood. (see my mail of upgrade:
no answers)
I couldn't use kde because of riva tnt2 card. I had to
rebuild the driver, but no kernel source was present,
so i had to download the one on the update site. To do

so i had to use old kernel -of course it worked 
perfectly!
Now my hd works with pio mode 16 bit and all seems to
be slower. 
I patched the installation to allow installing
security updates during installation, but now all 
my pakages have check signature fail! The key
printed is the same of mine, but lower case!
I upgraded k3b (rel. 10), and i cannot use it
because of k3bsetup disappeared (i didn't found on
kde control centre and no where else)
I upgraded to 9.2 last sunday today it's the third
day! what can i find more? 

> 
> So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe
> you don't. Or maybe you 
> use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not
> interfere. I wanna know, cause 
> I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my
> computer.
I'd like to know too. 

thanks
Angelo


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Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?

2003-11-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 21:06, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Monday 17 November 2003 11:48 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > OK, my #1 problem with running Linux is dealing with upgrades.
> >
> > With the upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, the Mandrake upgrade worked pretty well,
> > seeming to upgrade the stuff that needed, leaving alone the stuff that
> > didn't.
> >
> > Now, 9.1 to 9.2 club, that was a fiasco. I finally moved my /home to a new
> > partition, and blasted out /boot and /, installing in clean partitions. But
> > what was left over was uploading all the little programs I like, say
> > bidwatcher, KSetiSpy, Audacity, and the like, and nuking all the stuff I
> > don't: devfs and supermount to name two. Then configuring a new hosts file,
> > and setting up fstab to mount all the drives like I want them.
> >
> > So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you
> > use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know,
> > cause I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer.
> >
> I upgraded my desktop machine using urpmi against a local copy of the dist 
> tree.  It went very smoothly and I really had no problems.  First thing I did 
> was urpmi itself 'urpmi urpmi', then the kernel 'urpmi kernel' then reboot, 
> then everything else using the --auto-select switch, 'urpmi --auto-select'.


Actually for me the upgrade for 9.1 to 9.2 of so far 4 boxes was the
only time I've ever had a successful upgrade, on any Linux.  I did what
was suggested above plus a bit more.  The details from my efforts + a
number of others have been combined into the TWiki 

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UrpmiUpgrade

Know issues with the 9.1 to 9.0 path are here as well, hopefully
everyone who contributed to this one was/is thorough.

James
 




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Re: [expert] How do you upgrade?

2003-11-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 17 November 2003 11:48 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> OK, my #1 problem with running Linux is dealing with upgrades.
>
> With the upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, the Mandrake upgrade worked pretty well,
> seeming to upgrade the stuff that needed, leaving alone the stuff that
> didn't.
>
> Now, 9.1 to 9.2 club, that was a fiasco. I finally moved my /home to a new
> partition, and blasted out /boot and /, installing in clean partitions. But
> what was left over was uploading all the little programs I like, say
> bidwatcher, KSetiSpy, Audacity, and the like, and nuking all the stuff I
> don't: devfs and supermount to name two. Then configuring a new hosts file,
> and setting up fstab to mount all the drives like I want them.
>
> So the big question is how do you upgrade? Or maybe you don't. Or maybe you
> use urpmi to pull off an upgrade that does not interfere. I wanna know,
> cause I love linux, but I don't want to be a slave to my computer.
>
I upgraded my desktop machine using urpmi against a local copy of the dist 
tree.  It went very smoothly and I really had no problems.  First thing I did 
was urpmi itself 'urpmi urpmi', then the kernel 'urpmi kernel' then reboot, 
then everything else using the --auto-select switch, 'urpmi --auto-select'.
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