Re: [expert] Mozilla and Personal Security Mangler
On 20 Dec, Pete Jordan wrote: Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have reinstalled Mozilla 0.6 and am trying to make it work with secure web pages. I tried installing the PSM but am not permitted as a user to do so, so I did it as root. Has anyone actually managed to get the PSM installed and working properly? Have you been able to do so as a user or start the thing as a user? No problems here, but I build Mozilla from CVS and never install it. You might be best off picking up a new nightly distribution as PSM is now built with Mozilla so (with any luck) it will work out of the box. Uhm.. not quite. I get nightly builds once in a while. You need to get PSM separately. There's an option for this under one of the menus. I usually install it as myself so I don't have all these permission issues. I think the reason this occurs is because plugins are no longer stored in eac user's directory. So one thing you can do is, after you've installed Mozilla, use the browser that is launched to install all the plugins you need (I usually get PSM and the Java plugin). L -- MY EMAIL ADDRESS HAS CHANGED -- UPDATE YOUR ADDRESSBOOK Laurent Duperval "Montreal winters are an intelligence test, Netergy Networks - Java Centerand we who are here have failed it." Phone: (514) 282-8484 ext. 228 -Doug Camilli mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penguin Power!
Re: [expert] Mozilla and Personal Security Mangler
How do you do that? If I try to install Mozilla as a user, I am not permitted since it wants to install to /usr/local/mozilla and in a normal, basic setup, users are not permitted to write to or alter /usr/local directories or files. It is not an option to install it into my home directory, I want the browser to be usable to any and all users and it is horrendously inefficient to require that each user install their own copy of Mozilla. As a result, I always install it as superuser. If I try to install the PSM as a user, it fails because it wants to place the PSM into /usr/local/mozilla/psm, a non-user-writeable directory. The only way I have been able to install the PSM is as superuser. I must then change the permissions on the /usr/local/mozilla/psm directory to be user read-writeable or PSM wont work for users (and attempting to open up the PSM as a user locks up Mozilla - so far for every version since 0.6 that I have tried UNLESS /usr/local/mozilla/psm is set world read-writeable). Last I checked too, the PSM is no longer downloadable. The site that I would be directed to for downloading it now says that it is built into current releases and I don't get a link for downloading. I have more recent source for mozilla now and will try building and installing that, but I don't yet see how this will fix the problems unless the default permissions of the psm directory are auto-changed by doing this. I will be building as user but to install the binary I must be superuser (again, so I can install to /usr/local/mozilla)... On Friday 22 December 2000 06:12, you wrote: On 20 Dec, Pete Jordan wrote: Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have reinstalled Mozilla 0.6 and am trying to make it work with secure web pages. I tried installing the PSM but am not permitted as a user to do so, so I did it as root. [...] No problems here, but I build Mozilla from CVS and never install it. You might be best off picking up a new nightly distribution as PSM is now built with Mozilla so (with any luck) it will work out of the box. Uhm.. not quite. I get nightly builds once in a while. You need to get PSM separately. There's an option for this under one of the menus. I usually install it as myself so I don't have all these permission issues. I think the reason this occurs is because plugins are no longer stored in eac user's directory. [...] -- Praedor Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain. ---
Re: [expert] Mozilla and Personal Security Mangler
On 22 Dec, Praedor Tempus wrote: How do you do that? If I try to install Mozilla as a user, I am not permitted since it wants to install to /usr/local/mozilla and in a normal, basic setup, users are not permitted to write to or alter /usr/local directories or files. It is not an option to install it into my home directory, I want the browser to be usable to any and all users and it is horrendously inefficient to require that each user install their own copy of Mozilla. As a result, I always install it as superuser. Right. After you've installed the browser using the installer (you do use the installer, right?), a mozilla browser is automatically launched. Using that browser, install all the plugins you need. Yeah, it's a pain in the rump but until the installer figures out how to upgrade without removing previously installed plugins, you're stuck with it. If I try to install the PSM as a user, it fails because it wants to place the PSM into /usr/local/mozilla/psm, a non-user-writeable directory. The only way I have been able to install the PSM is as superuser. I must then change the permissions on the /usr/local/mozilla/psm directory to be user read-writeable or PSM wont work for users (and attempting to open up the PSM as a user locks up Mozilla - so far for every version since 0.6 that I have tried UNLESS /usr/local/mozilla/psm is set world read-writeable). Hmmm... I didn't know that. Check that it's been reported as a bug in bugzilla or else it'll never get fixed. Last I checked too, the PSM is no longer downloadable. The site that I would be directed to for downloading it now says that it is built into current releases and I don't get a link for downloading. Try the Debug | Install PSM menu option. It worked for me this morning. I have more recent source for mozilla now and will try building and installing that, but I don't yet see how this will fix the problems unless the default permissions of the psm directory are auto-changed by doing this. I will be building as user but to install the binary I must be superuser (again, so I can install to /usr/local/mozilla)... Oh, you build it? Hmmm... I dunno, if the build don't work, try to get a snapshot from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest L -- MY EMAIL ADDRESS HAS CHANGED -- UPDATE YOUR ADDRESSBOOK Laurent Duperval "Montreal winters are an intelligence test, Netergy Networks - Java Centerand we who are here have failed it." Phone: (514) 282-8484 ext. 228 -Doug Camilli mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Penguin Power!
Re: [expert] Mozilla and Personal Security Mangler
Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have reinstalled Mozilla 0.6 and am trying to make it work with secure web pages. I tried installing the PSM but am not permitted as a user to do so, so I did it as root. Has anyone actually managed to get the PSM installed and working properly? Have you been able to do so as a user or start the thing as a user? No problems here, but I build Mozilla from CVS and never install it. You might be best off picking up a new nightly distribution as PSM is now built with Mozilla so (with any luck) it will work out of the box. Pete Jordan
