RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-05 Thread Laura Stran

umask=0 will let everyone read, write, and execute
umask=22 is a bit safer (IMO) and only lets root (the owner and group) read, 
write, and execute but leaves others with only read and execute permissions. 
its more secure that way.  your choice, of course, what access rights you 
wish to give... btw, umask permissions work by subtracting from mode 777 
(rwxrwxrwx)  so umask=22  sets the permissions as mode 755 (rwxr-xr-x)

From: Mike MacCana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:09:24 +1100 (EST)

You need to specify a default permission [called a umask] for it when you
mount it...

From my filesystem table...

/dev/hda2 /mnt/windows vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0

Mike

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On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Zelck, Guy wrote:

 
  
   "Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
   
I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to
   get permissions
to write to it.
   
Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?
  
   The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.
  
  Not true, you can specify an option to set the mode of the dirs and 
files
  created on the vfat. I work this way. It's documented in mount I guess 
cause
  I found it on my system.
  So if the mode allows it, everyone can write.
 
 


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RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-05 Thread Laura Stran

umask=0 will let everyone read, write, and execute
umask=22 is a bit safer (IMO) and only lets root (the owner and group) read, 
write, and execute but leaves others with only read and execute permissions. 
its more secure that way.  your choice, of course, what access rights you 
wish to give... btw, umask permissions work by subtracting from mode 777 
(rwxrwxrwx)  so umask=22  sets the permissions as mode 755 (rwxr-xr-x)

From: Mike MacCana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:09:24 +1100 (EST)

You need to specify a default permission [called a umask] for it when you
mount it...

From my filesystem table...

/dev/hda2 /mnt/windows vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0

Mike

--
Mike MacCana   Support Consultant
   C Y B E R S O U R C E
Level 9, 140 Queen St Melbourne 3000
Ph : +61 3 9642 5997 Fax: +61 3 9642 5998

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Zelck, Guy wrote:

 
  
   "Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
   
I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to
   get permissions
to write to it.
   
Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?
  
   The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.
  
  Not true, you can specify an option to set the mode of the dirs and 
files
  created on the vfat. I work this way. It's documented in mount I guess 
cause
  I found it on my system.
  So if the mode allows it, everyone can write.
 
 


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RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-05 Thread Laura Stran

umask=0 will let everyone read, write, and execute
umask=22 is a bit safer (IMO) and only lets root (the owner and group) read, 
write, and execute but leaves others with only read and execute permissions. 
its more secure that way.  your choice, of course, what access rights you 
wish to give... btw, umask permissions work by subtracting from mode 777 
(rwxrwxrwx)  so umask=22  sets the permissions as mode 755 (rwxr-xr-x)

From: Mike MacCana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:09:24 +1100 (EST)

You need to specify a default permission [called a umask] for it when you
mount it...

From my filesystem table...

/dev/hda2 /mnt/windows vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0

Mike

--
Mike MacCana   Support Consultant
   C Y B E R S O U R C E
Level 9, 140 Queen St Melbourne 3000
Ph : +61 3 9642 5997 Fax: +61 3 9642 5998

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Zelck, Guy wrote:

 
  
   "Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
   
I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to
   get permissions
to write to it.
   
Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?
  
   The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.
  
  Not true, you can specify an option to set the mode of the dirs and 
files
  created on the vfat. I work this way. It's documented in mount I guess 
cause
  I found it on my system.
  So if the mode allows it, everyone can write.
 
 


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RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition(correction)

2001-01-05 Thread Laura Stran

snip
umask=22 is a bit safer (IMO) and only lets root (the owner and group)
 
  ((i ment owner))

read, write, and execute but leaves (group ) others with only read and 
executepermissions. its more secure that way.  your choice, of course, what 
access rights you wish to give... btw, umask permissions work by subtracting 
from mode 777 (rwxrwxrwx)  so umask=22  sets the permissions as mode 755 
(rwxr-xr-x)

snip


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RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-04 Thread Zelck, Guy


 
 "Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
  
  I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to 
 get permissions
  to write to it.
  
  Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?
 
 The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.
 
Not true, you can specify an option to set the mode of the dirs and files
created on the vfat. I work this way. It's documented in mount I guess cause
I found it on my system.
So if the mode allows it, everyone can write.




RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-04 Thread Sevatio Octavio

To enable Write to FAT partitions:
addd to /etc/fstab an entry for your FAT line that is "umask=0".

This will then allow non-root users to write to FAT.

Seve

 Original Message 

On 1/4/01, 12:53:22 AM, "Zelck, Guy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding 
RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition:


 
  "Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
  
   I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to
  get permissions
   to write to it.
  
   Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?
 
  The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.
 
 Not true, you can specify an option to set the mode of the dirs and files
 created on the vfat. I work this way. It's documented in mount I guess 
cause
 I found it on my system.
 So if the mode allows it, everyone can write.




RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-04 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN

Use the umask=0 option in /etc/fstab

-Original Message-
From: Zelck, Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition



 
 "Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
  
  I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to 
 get permissions
  to write to it.
  
  Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?
 
 The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.
 
Not true, you can specify an option to set the mode of the dirs and files
created on the vfat. I work this way. It's documented in mount I guess cause
I found it on my system.
So if the mode allows it, everyone can write.




RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-04 Thread Mike MacCana

You need to specify a default permission [called a umask] for it when you 
mount it...

From my filesystem table...

/dev/hda2 /mnt/windows vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0 

Mike

--
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  C Y B E R S O U R C E
   Level 9, 140 Queen St Melbourne 3000
Ph : +61 3 9642 5997 Fax: +61 3 9642 5998

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Zelck, Guy wrote:

 
  
  "Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
   
   I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to 
  get permissions
   to write to it.
   
   Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?
  
  The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.
  
 Not true, you can specify an option to set the mode of the dirs and files
 created on the vfat. I work this way. It's documented in mount I guess cause
 I found it on my system.
 So if the mode allows it, everyone can write.
 
 




RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-03 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN

Not so if you set umask to 0

-Original Message-
From: Ron Stodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition


"Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
 
 I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to get permissions
 to write to it.
 
 Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?

The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.

-- 
Regards,

Ron. [AU]




RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-03 Thread Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA

I did set the umask of the mount command to umask=0 and it seems to have
cleared the problem right up.

Thank you all for your help.

Jon H.

-Original Message-
From: Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:52 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition


Not so if you set umask to 0

-Original Message-
From: Ron Stodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition


"Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
 
 I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to get permissions
 to write to it.
 
 Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?

The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.

-- 
Regards,

Ron. [AU]





Re: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-03 Thread duane voth

  "Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
  I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to get permissions
  to write to it. Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?

  From: Ron Stodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.


Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN wrote:

 Not so if you set umask to 0

Woah, hold on, do you mean to say that umask now also controls
the permissions of mounted filesystems?!  (and I *presume* that
umask must be set *prior* to running mount)

Why arn't world read/write permissions command line options for mount??
(where they belong!)

duane





Re: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-03 Thread Anton Graham

Submitted 03-Jan-01 by duane voth:

 Woah, hold on, do you mean to say that umask now also controls
 the permissions of mounted filesystems?!  (and I *presume* that
 umask must be set *prior* to running mount)

On filesystems like vfat which do not have support for permissions.  And the
umask is a mount option set in /etc/fstab or as part of a -o parameter to
mount

 Why arn't world read/write permissions command line options for mount??
 (where they belong!)

see above

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RE: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-02 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN

umask=0

-Original Message-
From: Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:27 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition


I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to get permissions
to write to it.

Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?

Jon H.




Re: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-02 Thread Ron Stodden

"Himebaugh, Jon, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" wrote:
 
 I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to get permissions
 to write to it.
 
 Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?

The user that did the mount is the only one with write access.

-- 
Regards,

Ron. [AU]




Re: [expert] Read/Write permissions on a VFAT partition

2001-01-02 Thread duane voth

Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN wrote:

 umask=0

No umask is for setting the default permissions for files you *create*,
it doesn't change the access you have to existing files.

More then likely Jon, you will need to be root to write to the filesystem,
or if there is a way to mount the vfat from a normal user account then that
user will likely have permissions to write to it.

duane

 I have a vfat partition (win98) mounted but cannot seem to get permissions
 to write to it.
 
 Would someone please give me a hint how to do this?
 
 Jon H.