Re: [expert] Xwindow graphic

2000-10-29 Thread Michael Proto

Try drakxconf, should be in /usr/sbin/.


M.

Ti Nu wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I am using Mandrake 7.1, I am using Trident Blade 3D video card and a
 generic monitor.  Although I config it right (I think) but I still get
 a very bad graphic.  Does anyone know the way to chose the best
 graphic for it ( When I install, the installation graphic was very
 great).  Also does anyone know how to change those video card setting
 inside xwindows.  I tried to find drakconf but it seem does not exist
 ($ which drakconf   gave me the no result).   though the
 installation I already checked on the drakconf during the
 installation, So what should I do.
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-14 Thread Pierre Fortin

Stephen F Bosch wrote:
 
 Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
  Stephen Bosch wrote:
  
   Better yet, use ssh to make your console connections to the remote
   machine. ssh will do two nice things:
  
   1) ssh will by default set your DISPLAY variable when you connect
   2) ssh does display forwarding so that all your X traffic is encrypted,
   too.
 
  Strangely, I've never gotten this to work either to a remote machine or
  locally.  Never fully investigated, except to ensure forwarding was enabled...
  [time passes...]
  I just tried again and it worked...  as root.
  From the same command window, I get:
  [pfortin@bones Security]$ ssh -X bones
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
  Last login: Sun Sep 10 00:24:56 2000
  [pfortin@bones pfortin]$ emacs junk
  channel 0: istate 4 != open
  channel 0: ostate 64 != open
  Error: Couldn't find per display information
  [pfortin@bones pfortin]$
 
  I can't find the above error string in any of the binaries/libraries.
 
  Does this sound familiar to anyone?
 
 Well...
 
 I recently had a problem on one of my machines and finally discovered
 that it was because ssh looks in /etc/hosts or something... I had some
 bad information in there (grr... it escapes me exactly *what* was
 wrong)...

A valiant effort; but no...  the only anomoly I can find is:
   sshd: 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.255
fails to allow "ssh [-X] localhost", while:
   sshd: 127.0.0.0/255.255.255.252
works.  Strange since both are valid IP/mask pairs.  Even:
   sshd: 127.0.0.0/255.255.255.254
works.  This one is dubious since the mask is really insufficient for
[sub]netting; though valid for strict host masking.

At any rate, I can ssh fine as either root or pfortin.
X only works if I am root; not as pfortin.

Sounds like a permissions/authority problem since authentication works.

Thanks,
Pierre

 but you might try examining those things more closely.
 
 Though my guess is that there is something wrong with your display
 forwarding (as opposed to just the variable).
 
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RE: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Lyle



I have been using VNC. A 
tad clunky, but works well and the price is right. http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvncviewer.html

  -Original Message-[Lyle] From: 
  Dave Peat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 
  13, 2000 8:51 AMTo: Subject: [expert] 
  Xwindow
  Does anyone know of a Xwindow program that I can use to 
  Xwindow from one Linux box to another. Right now I can use Exceed on 
  Windoze and run a xsession to my Linux box. I want to do the same from 
  one Linux box to another.
  Thanks,
  Dave
  
  Registered User # 
184784


RE: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)

XWindows was designed around Unix.  Just set the DISPLAY environment
variable at the command (telnet) prompt before starting the program that
uses X.  The format is host:session where session is usually 0.
e.g. DISPLAY=192.168.1.5:0

If the X command gives a display fail error, you need to use xhost (man
xhost) to allow a connection from the remote computer.

Matthew Zaleski

-Original Message-
From: Lyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:55 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] Xwindow


I have been using VNC.  A tad clunky, but works well and the price is right.
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvncviewer.html
-Original Message-[Lyle]   
From: Dave Peat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:51 AM
To: 
Subject: [expert] Xwindow


Does anyone know of a Xwindow program that I can use to Xwindow from one
Linux box to another.  Right now I can use Exceed on Windoze and run a
xsession to my Linux box.  I want to do the same from one Linux box to
another.
Thanks,
Dave

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Re:[expert]Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Eugene C. Zesch

This bit from linux.com sounds like what you're looking for.
Gene



http://linux.com/tuneup/database.phtml/X11/001906.html



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Re: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Stephen Bosch



"Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)" wrote:
 
 XWindows was designed around Unix.  Just set the DISPLAY environment
 variable at the command (telnet) prompt before starting the program that
 uses X.  The format is host:session where session is usually 0.
 e.g. DISPLAY=192.168.1.5:0
 
 If the X command gives a display fail error, you need to use xhost (man
 xhost) to allow a connection from the remote computer.

Better yet, use ssh to make your console connections to the remote
machine. ssh will do two nice things:

1) ssh will by default set your DISPLAY variable when you connect
2) ssh does display forwarding so that all your X traffic is encrypted,
too.

Easier and more secure.

-Stephen-



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RE: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Stew Benedict


You don't need a special program.  X is DESIGNED to do this:

telnet other.machine (or rsh or ssh)
export DISPLAY=my.machine:0
xterm  (or gimp or whatever)

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RE: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Dave Peat



I actually use VNC as well, but it is more of a remote control 
application rather than a Xwindow terminal. Thanks for the info 
though. Anyone who doesn't know about VNC definately should! It is a 
pretty good program and as you nentioned, the price is right.
Dave
Registered User # 184784 
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I have been using VNC. A 
tad clunky, but works well and the price is right. http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvncviewer.html

  -Original Message-[Lyle] From: 
  Dave Peat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 
  13, 2000 8:51 AMTo: Subject: [expert] 
  Xwindow
  Does anyone know of a Xwindow program that I can use to 
  Xwindow from one Linux box to another. Right now I can use Exceed on 
  Windoze and run a xsession to my Linux box. I want to do the same from 
  one Linux box to another.
  Thanks,
  Dave
  
  Registered User # 
184784


Re: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Pierre Fortin

Stephen Bosch wrote:
 
 "Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)" wrote:
 
  XWindows was designed around Unix.  Just set the DISPLAY environment
  variable at the command (telnet) prompt before starting the program that
  uses X.  The format is host:session where session is usually 0.
  e.g. DISPLAY=192.168.1.5:0
 
  If the X command gives a display fail error, you need to use xhost (man
  xhost) to allow a connection from the remote computer.
 
 Better yet, use ssh to make your console connections to the remote
 machine. ssh will do two nice things:
 
 1) ssh will by default set your DISPLAY variable when you connect
 2) ssh does display forwarding so that all your X traffic is encrypted,
 too.

Strangely, I've never gotten this to work either to a remote machine or
locally.  Never fully investigated, except to ensure forwarding was enabled...  
[time passes...]
I just tried again and it worked...  as root.
From the same command window, I get:
[pfortin@bones Security]$ ssh -X bones
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
Last login: Sun Sep 10 00:24:56 2000
[pfortin@bones pfortin]$ emacs junk
channel 0: istate 4 != open
channel 0: ostate 64 != open
Error: Couldn't find per display information
[pfortin@bones pfortin]$

I can't find the above error string in any of the binaries/libraries.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Pierre

 Easier and more secure.
 
 -Stephen-
 
   
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Re: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Michael R. Batchelor

 Does anyone know of a Xwindow program that I can use to Xwindow from one Li=
 nux box to another.  Right now I can use Exceed on Windoze and run a xsessi=
 on to my Linux box.  I want to do the same from one Linux box to another.
 Thanks,

Try here. http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue27/kaszeta.html

It's supposed to be about using old PCs, but the concept is the same.
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Re: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Sarang Lakare

Dave,

VNC is for those _crappy_ OSes that do now have XWindows inbuilt.. Linux
and other Unices have XWindows builtin... thus it dosn't matter what
machine u are running the program on.. u can always just telnet/ssh to taht
machine and run the program there, but the display will be on u're screen..
thats the strength of unix.

On Windoze, u need to buy a program which can emulate X on u're machine..
and that way u'll be able to run X apps from a remote machine on u're
machine..

So don't tell us that VNC is good and other crap.. you dont' need it if u
are using Linux/Unix..

Everybody here is trying to tell you that and you are not able to
understand!

Also, tehre is a way to logon from another machine and display on u're
screen as if its connected to taht remote machine.. I am nto sure exactly
how.. there are infinite cool things u can do with XWindows! it simply
_rocks_

-sarang



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Re: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread lselinger








Sarang Lakare [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/13/2000 02:16:16 PM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  
 cc:  Dave Peat [EMAIL PROTECTED](bcc: Lonny
  Selinger/SaskPower) 
  
  
  
 Subject: Re: [expert] Xwindow
  









Um.ok no need to get rude people ... there is another setting you will
have to look at to export your display properly appart from just doing a
manual export  ex export DISPLAY=IP:0.0   do a man on xhost  ;-)

Lonny Selinger


Dave,

VNC is for those _crappy_ OSes that do now have XWindows inbuilt.. Linux
and other Unices have XWindows builtin... thus it dosn't matter what
machine u are running the program on.. u can always just telnet/ssh to taht
machine and run the program there, but the display will be on u're screen..
thats the strength of unix.

On Windoze, u need to buy a program which can emulate X on u're machine..
and that way u'll be able to run X apps from a remote machine on u're
machine..

So don't tell us that VNC is good and other crap.. you dont' need it if u
are using Linux/Unix..

Everybody here is trying to tell you that and you are not able to
understand!

Also, tehre is a way to logon from another machine and display on u're
screen as if its connected to taht remote machine.. I am nto sure exactly
how.. there are infinite cool things u can do with XWindows! it simply
_rocks_

-sarang




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Re: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
 Stephen Bosch wrote:
 
  Better yet, use ssh to make your console connections to the remote
  machine. ssh will do two nice things:
 
  1) ssh will by default set your DISPLAY variable when you connect
  2) ssh does display forwarding so that all your X traffic is encrypted,
  too.
 
 Strangely, I've never gotten this to work either to a remote machine or
 locally.  Never fully investigated, except to ensure forwarding was enabled...
 [time passes...]
 I just tried again and it worked...  as root.
 From the same command window, I get:
 [pfortin@bones Security]$ ssh -X bones
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
 Last login: Sun Sep 10 00:24:56 2000
 [pfortin@bones pfortin]$ emacs junk
 channel 0: istate 4 != open
 channel 0: ostate 64 != open
 Error: Couldn't find per display information
 [pfortin@bones pfortin]$
 
 I can't find the above error string in any of the binaries/libraries.
 
 Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Well...

I recently had a problem on one of my machines and finally discovered
that it was because ssh looks in /etc/hosts or something... I had some
bad information in there (grr... it escapes me exactly *what* was
wrong)...

but you might try examining those things more closely.

Though my guess is that there is something wrong with your display
forwarding (as opposed to just the variable).

-Stephen-



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Re: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

Sarang Lakare wrote:
 
 Dave,
 
 VNC is for those _crappy_ OSes that do now have XWindows inbuilt.. Linux
 and other Unices have XWindows builtin... thus it dosn't matter what
 machine u are running the program on.. u can always just telnet/ssh to taht
 machine and run the program there, but the display will be on u're screen..
 thats the strength of unix.
 
 On Windoze, u need to buy a program which can emulate X on u're machine..
 and that way u'll be able to run X apps from a remote machine on u're
 machine..
 
 So don't tell us that VNC is good and other crap.. you dont' need it if u
 are using Linux/Unix..
 
 Everybody here is trying to tell you that and you are not able to
 understand!

My, my, my.  Young Mr. Lakare is *so* full of piss  vinegar,
and thinks he knows so much...

Ron
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Re: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread BillK

vnc is not crap - its actually quite a lot faster over a modem
connection than pure X when the app has a complicated graphical
display.  It also has the advantage that if a modem drops out or you
want to move to a different machine, the session and all apps are still
active on reconnect.  Then there's the fact that it can be accessed by
any java capable browser so the standalone vnc client is not even
required.  This works quite well through netscape.  VNC is also a bit
more secure than X, can use ssh, uses diffent ports so firewall does not
have to pierced to at vulnerable X ports ...  Oh, its also easier to
understand for the inexperianced!, xhost and authorization can be a
nightmare for X.

BillK


Sarang Lakare wrote:

 So don't tell us that VNC is good and other crap.. you dont' need it if u
 are using Linux/Unix..




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Re: [expert] Xwindow

2000-09-13 Thread john bodanske



The guys at www.ltsp.org are using VNC sometimes as a faster 
way to X serve


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dave 
  Peat 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:29 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [expert] Xwindow
  
  I actually use VNC as well, but it is more of a remote 
  control application rather than a Xwindow terminal. Thanks for the info 
  though. Anyone who doesn't know about VNC definately should! It is 
  a pretty good program and as you nentioned, the price is right.
  Dave
  Registered User # 184784 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/00 07:54AM 
  
  I have been using VNC. 
  A tad clunky, but works well and the price is right. http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvncviewer.html
  
-Original Message-[Lyle] 
From: Dave Peat 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 
8:51 AMTo: Subject: [expert] 
Xwindow
Does anyone know of a Xwindow program that I can use to 
Xwindow from one Linux box to another. Right now I can use Exceed on 
Windoze and run a xsession to my Linux box. I want to do the same from 
one Linux box to another.
Thanks,
Dave

Registered User # 
184784