Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users

2002-11-30 Thread Woody Green
Add the umask option.  umask modifies the virtual (ntfs does not support
UNIX style permissions) permission bits in inverse octal form.  eg: Where
read+execute would be 5 in chmod, in umask it is 2 (7-5).  The first number
specifies the owning user's permissions, the second, owning group, the
third, everyone else.

 Woody

/dev/hdb7 /mnt/windowsLH ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=222 0 0
/dev/hde1 /mnt/windowsXP ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=222 0 0



Azrael said:
>
> Anyone able to tell me how to make the ntfs partitions visible to all
> users?
>
> thanks
>
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Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users

2002-11-28 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 07:11, Lars Nordin wrote:
> To answer several questions, the NTFS read problem only applies when the disk 
> is attached to the system as a normal disk (i.e. via IDE, SCSI (and may be 
> even a SAN)) and not over the network.
> 
> Think of it this way, when you export a filesystem via samba do the clients 
> care that the underlying filesystem is ext2, ext3, reiser, XFS, FAT, etc.? 
> No, because samba hides all that; the client makes smb filesystem calls. It 
> is the same when a Linux system mounts a samba or NFS drive, it makes smb or 
> NFS filesystem calls and nevers knows about the underlying filesystem on the 
> server.

Forgive me for asking what, Yes, I will admit is a stupid question, but
sometimes the boss likes to see someone else saying what I tell him. 
Since I'm not an MCSE I don't know squat *grin*.

James

> 
> On Wednesday 27 November 2002 05:43 pm, Todd Lyons wrote:
> > Azrael wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26:26PM + :
> > > could anyone tell me how to make my NTFS partitions visible to all users
> > > (or at least 1 specific user), and writable by at least root.
> > > am guessing changing 'ro' to 'rw' does makes them writable.. but will
> > > seek help rather than make errors :)
> >
> > NO!
> >
> > Do NOT mount it rw.  ntfs support in linux is only read capable.  If you
> > attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs filesystem so badly
> > that it cannot be recovered.  Do *NOT* mount it rw.  If you want to
> > share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition.
> >
> > Blue skies...   Todd
> 
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Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users

2002-11-28 Thread Azrael

Anyone able to tell me how to make the ntfs partitions visible to all users?

thanks

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Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users

2002-11-28 Thread Ray Warren
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 12:50:24PM +, Kenneth Walker wrote:
> Does this apply to smbmount to a shared NT4 machine  ?
> 
When You use smbmount You are actually talking to the operating system
on the other box which does the actual disk writes,so it doesn't matter
whether the other system is using ntfs,vfat,fat ext2, etc.
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Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users

2002-11-28 Thread Lars Nordin
To answer several questions, the NTFS read problem only applies when the disk 
is attached to the system as a normal disk (i.e. via IDE, SCSI (and may be 
even a SAN)) and not over the network.

Think of it this way, when you export a filesystem via samba do the clients 
care that the underlying filesystem is ext2, ext3, reiser, XFS, FAT, etc.? 
No, because samba hides all that; the client makes smb filesystem calls. It 
is the same when a Linux system mounts a samba or NFS drive, it makes smb or 
NFS filesystem calls and nevers knows about the underlying filesystem on the 
server.

On Wednesday 27 November 2002 05:43 pm, Todd Lyons wrote:
> Azrael wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26:26PM + :
> > could anyone tell me how to make my NTFS partitions visible to all users
> > (or at least 1 specific user), and writable by at least root.
> > am guessing changing 'ro' to 'rw' does makes them writable.. but will
> > seek help rather than make errors :)
>
> NO!
>
> Do NOT mount it rw.  ntfs support in linux is only read capable.  If you
> attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs filesystem so badly
> that it cannot be recovered.  Do *NOT* mount it rw.  If you want to
> share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition.
>
> Blue skies... Todd


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RE: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users

2002-11-28 Thread Kenneth Walker
Does this apply to smbmount to a shared NT4 machine  ?

I'm using LM8.1

I've been Tar'in files to it but am not sure if its ntfs or Fat, but i'm now
gonna ask.

> NO!
> 
> Do NOT mount it rw.  ntfs support in Linux is only read capable.  If you
> attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs file system so badly
> that it cannot be recovered.  Do *NOT* mount it rw.  If you want to
> share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition.

many thanks

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Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users

2002-11-27 Thread Azrael
I was under the belief that NTFS was writable under linux, and that it 
simply required a scandisk under windows, not that it actually did any 
real damage.

Still.. writing isn't as important as it being readable to users.. how 
do I do that?

Todd Lyons wrote:
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Azrael wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26:26PM + :


could anyone tell me how to make my NTFS partitions visible to all users 
(or at least 1 specific user), and writable by at least root.
am guessing changing 'ro' to 'rw' does makes them writable.. but will 
seek help rather than make errors :)


NO!

Do NOT mount it rw.  ntfs support in linux is only read capable.  If you
attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs filesystem so badly
that it cannot be recovered.  Do *NOT* mount it rw.  If you want to
share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition.

Blue skies...			Todd
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Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users

2002-11-27 Thread James Sparenberg
Todd,

   Question on this one ... In Samba if I share there, do I run into the
same limitations.  In other words if I samba mount a directory that is
shared via a lose2k or or any other ntfs do I have the same rw
restrictions or am I ok in this case?

James


On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 14:43, Todd Lyons wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> Azrael wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26:26PM + :
> > 
> > could anyone tell me how to make my NTFS partitions visible to all users 
> > (or at least 1 specific user), and writable by at least root.
> > am guessing changing 'ro' to 'rw' does makes them writable.. but will 
> > seek help rather than make errors :)
> 
> NO!
> 
> Do NOT mount it rw.  ntfs support in linux is only read capable.  If you
> attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs filesystem so badly
> that it cannot be recovered.  Do *NOT* mount it rw.  If you want to
> share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition.
> 
> Blue skies... Todd
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>MandrakeSoft USA   http://www.mandrakesoft.com
>   cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp  #for great justice
>Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.4mdk
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)
> 
> iD8DBQE95UqYlp7v05cW2woRAi9IAKCPB51RdHi2/J0RkhnILZSuMsvilQCfVLjw
> p1vKlct5jn8p2ujvlYt3LE8=
> =q31r
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users

2002-11-27 Thread Todd Lyons
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Azrael wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26:26PM + :
> 
> could anyone tell me how to make my NTFS partitions visible to all users 
> (or at least 1 specific user), and writable by at least root.
> am guessing changing 'ro' to 'rw' does makes them writable.. but will 
> seek help rather than make errors :)

NO!

Do NOT mount it rw.  ntfs support in linux is only read capable.  If you
attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs filesystem so badly
that it cannot be recovered.  Do *NOT* mount it rw.  If you want to
share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition.

Blue skies...   Todd
- -- 
   MandrakeSoft USA   http://www.mandrakesoft.com
  cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp  #for great justice
   Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.4mdk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQE95UqYlp7v05cW2woRAi9IAKCPB51RdHi2/J0RkhnILZSuMsvilQCfVLjw
p1vKlct5jn8p2ujvlYt3LE8=
=q31r
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


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