Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users
Add the umask option. umask modifies the virtual (ntfs does not support UNIX style permissions) permission bits in inverse octal form. eg: Where read+execute would be 5 in chmod, in umask it is 2 (7-5). The first number specifies the owning user's permissions, the second, owning group, the third, everyone else. Woody /dev/hdb7 /mnt/windowsLH ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=222 0 0 /dev/hde1 /mnt/windowsXP ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=222 0 0 Azrael said: > > Anyone able to tell me how to make the ntfs partitions visible to all > users? > > thanks > > -- > Azrael > > ("\''/").___..--'''"-._ > `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' > ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' > > Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave > of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it > would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. > > ICQ#52944566 -- Woody --- Gatewood GreenNetwork/System Administrator Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linif.org/ Linux in Idaho Falls Linux User Group --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users
On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 07:11, Lars Nordin wrote: > To answer several questions, the NTFS read problem only applies when the disk > is attached to the system as a normal disk (i.e. via IDE, SCSI (and may be > even a SAN)) and not over the network. > > Think of it this way, when you export a filesystem via samba do the clients > care that the underlying filesystem is ext2, ext3, reiser, XFS, FAT, etc.? > No, because samba hides all that; the client makes smb filesystem calls. It > is the same when a Linux system mounts a samba or NFS drive, it makes smb or > NFS filesystem calls and nevers knows about the underlying filesystem on the > server. Forgive me for asking what, Yes, I will admit is a stupid question, but sometimes the boss likes to see someone else saying what I tell him. Since I'm not an MCSE I don't know squat *grin*. James > > On Wednesday 27 November 2002 05:43 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: > > Azrael wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26:26PM + : > > > could anyone tell me how to make my NTFS partitions visible to all users > > > (or at least 1 specific user), and writable by at least root. > > > am guessing changing 'ro' to 'rw' does makes them writable.. but will > > > seek help rather than make errors :) > > > > NO! > > > > Do NOT mount it rw. ntfs support in linux is only read capable. If you > > attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs filesystem so badly > > that it cannot be recovered. Do *NOT* mount it rw. If you want to > > share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition. > > > > Blue skies... Todd > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users
Anyone able to tell me how to make the ntfs partitions visible to all users? thanks -- Azrael ("\''/").___..--'''"-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 12:50:24PM +, Kenneth Walker wrote: > Does this apply to smbmount to a shared NT4 machine ? > When You use smbmount You are actually talking to the operating system on the other box which does the actual disk writes,so it doesn't matter whether the other system is using ntfs,vfat,fat ext2, etc. Ray Warren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users
To answer several questions, the NTFS read problem only applies when the disk is attached to the system as a normal disk (i.e. via IDE, SCSI (and may be even a SAN)) and not over the network. Think of it this way, when you export a filesystem via samba do the clients care that the underlying filesystem is ext2, ext3, reiser, XFS, FAT, etc.? No, because samba hides all that; the client makes smb filesystem calls. It is the same when a Linux system mounts a samba or NFS drive, it makes smb or NFS filesystem calls and nevers knows about the underlying filesystem on the server. On Wednesday 27 November 2002 05:43 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: > Azrael wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26:26PM + : > > could anyone tell me how to make my NTFS partitions visible to all users > > (or at least 1 specific user), and writable by at least root. > > am guessing changing 'ro' to 'rw' does makes them writable.. but will > > seek help rather than make errors :) > > NO! > > Do NOT mount it rw. ntfs support in linux is only read capable. If you > attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs filesystem so badly > that it cannot be recovered. Do *NOT* mount it rw. If you want to > share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition. > > Blue skies... Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users
Does this apply to smbmount to a shared NT4 machine ? I'm using LM8.1 I've been Tar'in files to it but am not sure if its ntfs or Fat, but i'm now gonna ask. > NO! > > Do NOT mount it rw. ntfs support in Linux is only read capable. If you > attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs file system so badly > that it cannot be recovered. Do *NOT* mount it rw. If you want to > share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition. many thanks Mr Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users
I was under the belief that NTFS was writable under linux, and that it simply required a scandisk under windows, not that it actually did any real damage. Still.. writing isn't as important as it being readable to users.. how do I do that? Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Azrael wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26:26PM + : could anyone tell me how to make my NTFS partitions visible to all users (or at least 1 specific user), and writable by at least root. am guessing changing 'ro' to 'rw' does makes them writable.. but will seek help rather than make errors :) NO! Do NOT mount it rw. ntfs support in linux is only read capable. If you attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs filesystem so badly that it cannot be recovered. Do *NOT* mount it rw. If you want to share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp #for great justice Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.4mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE95UqYlp7v05cW2woRAi9IAKCPB51RdHi2/J0RkhnILZSuMsvilQCfVLjw p1vKlct5jn8p2ujvlYt3LE8= =q31r -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Azrael ("\''/").___..--'''"-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users
Todd, Question on this one ... In Samba if I share there, do I run into the same limitations. In other words if I samba mount a directory that is shared via a lose2k or or any other ntfs do I have the same rw restrictions or am I ok in this case? James On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 14:43, Todd Lyons wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Azrael wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26:26PM + : > > > > could anyone tell me how to make my NTFS partitions visible to all users > > (or at least 1 specific user), and writable by at least root. > > am guessing changing 'ro' to 'rw' does makes them writable.. but will > > seek help rather than make errors :) > > NO! > > Do NOT mount it rw. ntfs support in linux is only read capable. If you > attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs filesystem so badly > that it cannot be recovered. Do *NOT* mount it rw. If you want to > share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition. > > Blue skies... Todd > - -- >MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com > cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp #for great justice >Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.4mdk > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE95UqYlp7v05cW2woRAi9IAKCPB51RdHi2/J0RkhnILZSuMsvilQCfVLjw > p1vKlct5jn8p2ujvlYt3LE8= > =q31r > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] make NTFS visible and writable by users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Azrael wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26:26PM + : > > could anyone tell me how to make my NTFS partitions visible to all users > (or at least 1 specific user), and writable by at least root. > am guessing changing 'ro' to 'rw' does makes them writable.. but will > seek help rather than make errors :) NO! Do NOT mount it rw. ntfs support in linux is only read capable. If you attempt to write to it, you will damage your ntfs filesystem so badly that it cannot be recovered. Do *NOT* mount it rw. If you want to share data between win and lin, you need to use a fat32 partition. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp #for great justice Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-0.4mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE95UqYlp7v05cW2woRAi9IAKCPB51RdHi2/J0RkhnILZSuMsvilQCfVLjw p1vKlct5jn8p2ujvlYt3LE8= =q31r -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com