Re: [expert] sound in 9.2
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 05:43, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Jack Coates wrote: You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an actual problem, but here goes :-) Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, run sound server with realtime priority is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not KDE). XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the use realtime priority flag is set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's use realtime priority flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810 laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static and frequently played at the wrong frequency. Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building. Con Kolivas wrote about how renicing X to -10, as is currently done by default, can cause choppiness in the 2.6 kernels and, further in the thread, he recommends not doing it for any kernel. Don't know if this will help your situation but might be a heads up. His subsequent post also details how to change this setting. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html Rolf Got my hopes up, but I use gdm and it doesn't nice X. Oh well. I also discovered that the -mm kernel panics in the ieee1394 module during shutdown on my laptop and swsusp still doesn't work. Maybe if I did a clean install... -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sound in 9.2
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:32, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 05:43, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Jack Coates wrote: You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an actual problem, but here goes :-) Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, run sound server with realtime priority is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not KDE). XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the use realtime priority flag is set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's use realtime priority flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810 laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static and frequently played at the wrong frequency. Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building. Con Kolivas wrote about how renicing X to -10, as is currently done by default, can cause choppiness in the 2.6 kernels and, further in the thread, he recommends not doing it for any kernel. Don't know if this will help your situation but might be a heads up. His subsequent post also details how to change this setting. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html Rolf Got my hopes up, but I use gdm and it doesn't nice X. Oh well. I also discovered that the -mm kernel panics in the ieee1394 module during shutdown on my laptop and swsusp still doesn't work. Maybe if I did a clean install... spoke too soon, only the laptop uses gdm. not nicing X does help on the desktop, though it still isn't perfect. next step may be to try ALSA on that one... -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sound in 9.2
Jack Coates wrote: You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an actual problem, but here goes :-) Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, run sound server with realtime priority is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not KDE). XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the use realtime priority flag is set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's use realtime priority flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810 laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static and frequently played at the wrong frequency. Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building. Con Kolivas wrote about how renicing X to -10, as is currently done by default, can cause choppiness in the 2.6 kernels and, further in the thread, he recommends not doing it for any kernel. Don't know if this will help your situation but might be a heads up. His subsequent post also details how to change this setting. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sound in 9.2
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:06:26 -0800 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an actual problem, but here goes :-) Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, run sound server with realtime priority is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not KDE). XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the use realtime priority flag is set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's use realtime priority flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810 laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static and frequently played at the wrong frequency. Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building. Funny you should mention! I have been playing with the 2.6 test 9.4 kernel, and have noticed it even more. I have 9.2 Cooker (2.4.22-21mdk) , which is really just 9.2 since the freeze has been on. This is a desktop with a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card (cs46xx), 5.1 Dolby Digital to a kickin' set of Altec Lancing speakers / subwoofer. I _can_ rattle the window! but that is another story. I'm all ALSA. I can stream 128k audio off the net with no problems, but I have some oggs that get funky and choppy, but not always. No lockups at all. There are some issues with gstreamer-alsa based players, and ChangeLog shows fixs have just released. I've played with a bunch of music manager software - it is uses gstreamer I have a serious sound problems; if it uses xmms, then the minor issue mentioned, if it uses alsaplayer, smooth as silk. Anyone else? Tim -- _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature