Re: [expert] sound in 9.2

2003-11-06 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 05:43, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
 Jack Coates wrote:
  You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an
  actual problem, but here goes :-)
  
  Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading
  to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock
  2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both
  using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, run sound server with realtime
  priority is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not
  KDE).
  
  XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the
  only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make
  much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the use realtime priority flag is
  set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under
  heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's use
  realtime priority flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying
  on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). 
  
  I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810
  laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally
  perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static
  and frequently played at the wrong frequency.
  
  Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music
  and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux
  fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building.
 
 Con Kolivas wrote about how renicing X to -10, as is currently done by 
 default, can cause choppiness in the 2.6 kernels and, further in the 
 thread, he recommends not doing it for any kernel.  Don't know if this 
 will help your situation but might be a heads up.  His subsequent post 
 also details how to change this setting.
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html
 
 Rolf

Got my hopes up, but I use gdm and it doesn't nice X. Oh well. I also
discovered that the -mm kernel panics in the ieee1394 module during
shutdown on my laptop and swsusp still doesn't work. Maybe if I did a
clean install...
-- 
Jack Coates
Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] sound in 9.2

2003-11-06 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:32, Jack Coates wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 05:43, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
  Jack Coates wrote:
   You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an
   actual problem, but here goes :-)
   
   Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading
   to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock
   2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both
   using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, run sound server with realtime
   priority is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not
   KDE).
   
   XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the
   only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make
   much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the use realtime priority flag is
   set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under
   heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's use
   realtime priority flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying
   on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). 
   
   I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810
   laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally
   perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static
   and frequently played at the wrong frequency.
   
   Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music
   and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux
   fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building.
  
  Con Kolivas wrote about how renicing X to -10, as is currently done by 
  default, can cause choppiness in the 2.6 kernels and, further in the 
  thread, he recommends not doing it for any kernel.  Don't know if this 
  will help your situation but might be a heads up.  His subsequent post 
  also details how to change this setting.
  http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html
  
  Rolf
 
 Got my hopes up, but I use gdm and it doesn't nice X. Oh well. I also
 discovered that the -mm kernel panics in the ieee1394 module during
 shutdown on my laptop and swsusp still doesn't work. Maybe if I did a
 clean install...

spoke too soon, only the laptop uses gdm. not nicing X does help on the
desktop, though it still isn't perfect. next step may be to try ALSA on
that one...
-- 
Jack Coates
Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] sound in 9.2

2003-11-05 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Jack Coates wrote:
You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an
actual problem, but here goes :-)
Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading
to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock
2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both
using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, run sound server with realtime
priority is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not
KDE).
XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the
only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make
much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the use realtime priority flag is
set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under
heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's use
realtime priority flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying
on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). 

I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810
laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally
perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static
and frequently played at the wrong frequency.
Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music
and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux
fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building.
Con Kolivas wrote about how renicing X to -10, as is currently done by 
default, can cause choppiness in the 2.6 kernels and, further in the 
thread, he recommends not doing it for any kernel.  Don't know if this 
will help your situation but might be a heads up.  His subsequent post 
also details how to change this setting.
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html

Rolf


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Re: [expert] sound in 9.2

2003-11-04 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:06:26 -0800
Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment:

 You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an
 actual problem, but here goes :-)
 
 Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading
 to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock
 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both
 using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, run sound server with realtime
 priority is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not
 KDE).
 
 XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the
 only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make
 much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the use realtime priority flag is
 set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under
 heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's use
 realtime priority flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying
 on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). 
 
 I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810
 laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally
 perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static
 and frequently played at the wrong frequency.
 
 Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music
 and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux
 fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building.

Funny you should mention!

I have been playing with the 2.6 test 9.4 kernel, and have noticed it even
more.  I have 9.2 Cooker (2.4.22-21mdk) , which is really just 9.2  since
the freeze has been on.  This is a desktop with a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
card (cs46xx),  5.1 Dolby Digital to a kickin' set of Altec Lancing speakers
/ subwoofer.  I _can_ rattle the window!  but that is another story.

I'm all ALSA.  I can stream 128k audio off the net with no problems, but I
have some oggs that get funky and choppy, but not always.  No lockups at
all.  There are some issues with gstreamer-alsa based players, and ChangeLog
shows fixs have just released.  I've played with a bunch of music manager
software - it is uses gstreamer I have a serious sound problems; if it uses
xmms, then the minor issue mentioned, if it uses alsaplayer, smooth as silk.

Anyone else?

Tim

-- 
 _
( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail
 x registered Linux user # 329428
/ \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net


pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature