Re: SV: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie

2000-05-19 Thread Alan Shoemaker

MahmuthI do!  And you should care as well.

Alan


Mahmuth ahthumbha The III wrote:
> 
> --
> > Från: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Ämne: Re: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie
> > Datum:  den 19 maj 2000 20:59
> >
> > Good points! I would add to your "stop screaming" that
> > people who wish help will be MORE likely to receive help if
> > A) they ask nicely, and
> > B) if they post their request in PLAIN, ASCII TEXT!
> >
> > Why the latter suggestion? Because more than one "expert"
> > here has stated that they find it extremely difficult to
> > read HTML in the mail client of choice: KMail.  Since
> > Mandrake defaults to KDE as the desktop / window manager of
> > choice, KMail is the obvious mail client of choice for a
> > large number of users.
> >
> > Unfortunately, many of the people who come to this list for
> > help are posting either from Netscape, Outlook Express or
> > Eudora Light. All three default to HTML posting. At least
> > with Outlook Express one doesn't have to wade through all
> > the clutter of the HTML source code.
> >
> > Brand me an "elitest" if you wish, but I, for one, feel
> > that if someone is coming to ME for help (most of the time,
> > I'll admit, I just lurk here ) they darn well better ask
> > in plain text.
> >
> > I've been guilty of sending out "nastynotes" in the past,
> > but more often than not, I've taken the time to explain WHY
> > people should post in plain text. Unfortunately some people
> > on this list (and others) have taken it as a personal
> > affront that I try and change their posting preferences.
> > Well, doggone it, THEY'RE the ones asking for help!
> > Besides, I have been (lately) unfailingly polite and kind
> > in asking people to stop posting in HTML. If they can't
> > take a nice request for plain text, I'm guessing they
> > aren't "Linux People" in the first place.
> >
> > MOST people I've sent plain-text requests to have been
> > quite polite about it, either saying they forgot to change
> > their preferences or that they didn't realize that
> > Netscape/Eudora/OE defaulted to HTML and quickly changed
> > their preferences.
> >
> > I guess what I'm saying is it all boils down to politeness
> > -- be polite when asking for help, not only in your tone,
> > but also in your MANNER of posting.
> >
> > My $0.02.
> >   John
> >
> Who cares!




Re: SV: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie

2000-05-19 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 19 May 2000, you wrote:
> > I guess what I'm saying is it all boils down to politeness
> > -- be polite when asking for help, not only in your tone,
> > but also in your MANNER of posting.
> > 
> > My $0.02.
> > John
> > 
> Who cares!
>
Hmm...perhaps people who'd like to see this list return to
some form of civility? My suggestion (to you and others who
have an attitude similar to yours) is this: if you don't
like this list, remove yourself from this list!
John




SV: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie

2000-05-19 Thread Mahmuth ahthumbha The III



--
> Från: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ämne: Re: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie
> Datum:  den 19 maj 2000 20:59
> 
> Good points! I would add to your "stop screaming" that
> people who wish help will be MORE likely to receive help if
> A) they ask nicely, and
> B) if they post their request in PLAIN, ASCII TEXT!
> 
> Why the latter suggestion? Because more than one "expert"
> here has stated that they find it extremely difficult to
> read HTML in the mail client of choice: KMail.  Since
> Mandrake defaults to KDE as the desktop / window manager of
> choice, KMail is the obvious mail client of choice for a
> large number of users.
> 
> Unfortunately, many of the people who come to this list for
> help are posting either from Netscape, Outlook Express or
> Eudora Light. All three default to HTML posting. At least
> with Outlook Express one doesn't have to wade through all
> the clutter of the HTML source code.
> 
> Brand me an "elitest" if you wish, but I, for one, feel
> that if someone is coming to ME for help (most of the time,
> I'll admit, I just lurk here ) they darn well better ask
> in plain text.
> 
> I've been guilty of sending out "nastynotes" in the past,
> but more often than not, I've taken the time to explain WHY
> people should post in plain text. Unfortunately some people
> on this list (and others) have taken it as a personal
> affront that I try and change their posting preferences.
> Well, doggone it, THEY'RE the ones asking for help!
> Besides, I have been (lately) unfailingly polite and kind
> in asking people to stop posting in HTML. If they can't
> take a nice request for plain text, I'm guessing they
> aren't "Linux People" in the first place.
> 
> MOST people I've sent plain-text requests to have been
> quite polite about it, either saying they forgot to change
> their preferences or that they didn't realize that
> Netscape/Eudora/OE defaulted to HTML and quickly changed
> their preferences.
> 
> I guess what I'm saying is it all boils down to politeness
> -- be polite when asking for help, not only in your tone,
> but also in your MANNER of posting.
> 
> My $0.02.
>   John
> 
Who cares!