Re: SV: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie
MahmuthI do! And you should care as well. Alan Mahmuth ahthumbha The III wrote: > > -- > > Från: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ämne: Re: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie > > Datum: den 19 maj 2000 20:59 > > > > Good points! I would add to your "stop screaming" that > > people who wish help will be MORE likely to receive help if > > A) they ask nicely, and > > B) if they post their request in PLAIN, ASCII TEXT! > > > > Why the latter suggestion? Because more than one "expert" > > here has stated that they find it extremely difficult to > > read HTML in the mail client of choice: KMail. Since > > Mandrake defaults to KDE as the desktop / window manager of > > choice, KMail is the obvious mail client of choice for a > > large number of users. > > > > Unfortunately, many of the people who come to this list for > > help are posting either from Netscape, Outlook Express or > > Eudora Light. All three default to HTML posting. At least > > with Outlook Express one doesn't have to wade through all > > the clutter of the HTML source code. > > > > Brand me an "elitest" if you wish, but I, for one, feel > > that if someone is coming to ME for help (most of the time, > > I'll admit, I just lurk here ) they darn well better ask > > in plain text. > > > > I've been guilty of sending out "nastynotes" in the past, > > but more often than not, I've taken the time to explain WHY > > people should post in plain text. Unfortunately some people > > on this list (and others) have taken it as a personal > > affront that I try and change their posting preferences. > > Well, doggone it, THEY'RE the ones asking for help! > > Besides, I have been (lately) unfailingly polite and kind > > in asking people to stop posting in HTML. If they can't > > take a nice request for plain text, I'm guessing they > > aren't "Linux People" in the first place. > > > > MOST people I've sent plain-text requests to have been > > quite polite about it, either saying they forgot to change > > their preferences or that they didn't realize that > > Netscape/Eudora/OE defaulted to HTML and quickly changed > > their preferences. > > > > I guess what I'm saying is it all boils down to politeness > > -- be polite when asking for help, not only in your tone, > > but also in your MANNER of posting. > > > > My $0.02. > > John > > > Who cares!
Re: SV: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie
On Fri, 19 May 2000, you wrote: > > I guess what I'm saying is it all boils down to politeness > > -- be polite when asking for help, not only in your tone, > > but also in your MANNER of posting. > > > > My $0.02. > > John > > > Who cares! > Hmm...perhaps people who'd like to see this list return to some form of civility? My suggestion (to you and others who have an attitude similar to yours) is this: if you don't like this list, remove yourself from this list! John
SV: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie
-- > Från: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: Re: [expert] OT: Linux Newbie > Datum: den 19 maj 2000 20:59 > > Good points! I would add to your "stop screaming" that > people who wish help will be MORE likely to receive help if > A) they ask nicely, and > B) if they post their request in PLAIN, ASCII TEXT! > > Why the latter suggestion? Because more than one "expert" > here has stated that they find it extremely difficult to > read HTML in the mail client of choice: KMail. Since > Mandrake defaults to KDE as the desktop / window manager of > choice, KMail is the obvious mail client of choice for a > large number of users. > > Unfortunately, many of the people who come to this list for > help are posting either from Netscape, Outlook Express or > Eudora Light. All three default to HTML posting. At least > with Outlook Express one doesn't have to wade through all > the clutter of the HTML source code. > > Brand me an "elitest" if you wish, but I, for one, feel > that if someone is coming to ME for help (most of the time, > I'll admit, I just lurk here ) they darn well better ask > in plain text. > > I've been guilty of sending out "nastynotes" in the past, > but more often than not, I've taken the time to explain WHY > people should post in plain text. Unfortunately some people > on this list (and others) have taken it as a personal > affront that I try and change their posting preferences. > Well, doggone it, THEY'RE the ones asking for help! > Besides, I have been (lately) unfailingly polite and kind > in asking people to stop posting in HTML. If they can't > take a nice request for plain text, I'm guessing they > aren't "Linux People" in the first place. > > MOST people I've sent plain-text requests to have been > quite polite about it, either saying they forgot to change > their preferences or that they didn't realize that > Netscape/Eudora/OE defaulted to HTML and quickly changed > their preferences. > > I guess what I'm saying is it all boils down to politeness > -- be polite when asking for help, not only in your tone, > but also in your MANNER of posting. > > My $0.02. > John > Who cares!