RE: [expert] Strange screen on console
It sounds like your keymap got hosed. Can you log in as Linux single? Or into emergency mode? If so check your keymap, if I remember correctly it's /etc/keymap. I am at work currently. If you want I can send you a copy of my key map. Just send your request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac -Original Message- From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 4:17 PM To: Expert mailing list Subject: [expert] Strange screen on console Hi all! I've got a weired problem. When I press aTAB on a bash prompt, bash lists all the files starting with a. But the output is not nice and orderly in 2 or maybe 3 columns, but instead it looks like this: (attention: VERY long lines!) -- aasavefont allneededaskrunlevel aatest amd at ab amd2ldif atd abiword amd2sun atktopbm ac am-eject atobm access amq atq accton amstex atrm aclocal anacron atrun actived animate au2h actmerge another_clock_applet audiocompose actsync anytopnm audiofile-config actsyncd apachectl audiosend addftinfoapm aumix addr apmd autoconf addr2lineapmsleep autoexpect address-conduit-capplet appletviewer autoheader addressesappres automake addtosmbpass apropos automount adduser apxs automount2amd adduserdrake ar autopasswd addxface arch autoreconf adjtimex archive autoscan adnshost ark autoupdate adnslogres arp autovbox adnsresfilteras avmcapictrl adnstest as86 aweset afmtodit asciitopgm awk aktion ascii-xfr [root 16:10:27 ~]# a -- What's going on here? And also when I try to login on the console prompt right after booting I cannot really type, ie. keys get all messed up and when I press return I see a ^M, the line advances but the output stays at the same column. What in the world did I mess up? Could it be that this has something to do with that I installed / hooked up a new monitor? Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
RE: [expert] Zip Drive Compatibility
I am using the Syquest 1G Zip system which is parallel. Send your request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to remind me and I can forward the info on what is required to mount a parallel Zip drive under Linux Mac -Original Message- From: Joe Heafner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Zip Drive Compatibility Jay Summet wrote: I would suggest an IDE or SCSI model. I have a parallel port zip drive, and have yet to be able to get it working under Linux. There are drivers that claim to work, but I haven't gotten them working. (Also, SCSI and IDE are MUCH faster than parallel port for data transfer). I assume you want to be able to move the drive from machine to machine, so an internal IDE wouldn't be optimal (unless you got one for each machine), and a SCSI model would require a scsi adaptor in each computer that you want to use it with. This is the route I'd suggest if you want to use the same drive on more than one computer. Having a SCSI interface on a computer is always nice, you never know what cool SCSI peripherals you might find at a garage sale ;. I need to move between my linux desktop box and my notebook, neither of which has scsi adapters at the moment. Speed isn't an issue for me. If you can get parallel port support working under Linux, that would work well for you, BUT, I'd suggest you buy your zip drive from somewhere that will let you take it back if you are unable to get it working with linux. Absolutely! -- Joe Heafner -- Astronomy/Physics Instructor 828-327-7000, ext. 4246 My Book http://www.willbell.com/new/fundephcomp.htm My Home Page http://home.interpath.com/heafnerj/ CVAC Home Page http://home.interpath.com/heafnerj/cvac.html Linux! Why did it take me so long to try it?
RE: [expert] troubles with star office
You need to cp the StarOffice file to a local directory i.e. /opt or /home/username Mac -Original Message- From: James Sparenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] troubles with star office All, I've got a box with Mandrake 7.1 that I'm trying to install Star Office on. But I've run into the following problem. It seems that whenever I type the ./setup command after going into the directory on the cdrom it keeps giving me a Permission denied error. I've checked permissions and they are read execute. I'm logged into kde as root. (I've also done a ctrl/alt/f3 and tried it from the command line logged in as root) and I get the same permission denied error. No other errors are present. Since I can navigate to the directory on the cdrom I know it's mounted and I've checked permissions up the chain and they are all in line. In short I'm having trouble finding any difference between this box and another one that I have already installed Star Office on. Any suggestions? Thanks for your time. James I haven't gotten a copy of this letter in about an hour so I am resending I apologize if you are receiving this twice.
RE: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK
The ext2 file system will fragment over time, but unlike windows the file / data management structure defrags on the "fly" keep in mind this OS was designed with long periods of uptimein mind. That means it needs to be efficient. UNIX is designed with the same concept in mind. I can't remember the exact contruct details but the allocation of memory blocks on the hard drive is more efficient than the FAT system. Here is what I found with Google: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kristian Köhntopp) Date: Sat Sep 28 16:50:44 DST 1996 Subject: Re: file fragmentation in Linux (EXT2) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Tupy) writes: Your DOS roots are showing. Ext2 doesn't fragment much, and there really isn't that need as there was in DOS. Knowing a little about OS's, I must ask how this is possible? Don't get me wrong, I am open to this concept, but I really am curious how they achieve this? By not cramming every single byte into the first half of the harddisk. Instead, ext2 (and BSD FFS/ufs, Windows NT NTFS and other more sophisticated filesystems) lay out their data carefully, organizing different directories in different parts of the disk and allocate space for growing files in advance to provide contiguous space for growth. Another key concept to understand is that it is not desireable to store every file in one contiguous chunk of data. It is enough to make sure that the chunks of a file are of a resonable size to allow the operating system to access the data fast. Kristian 3.4 Some facts about file systems and fragmentation Disk space is administered by the operating system in units of blocks and fragments of blocks. In ext2, fragments and blocks have to be of the same size, so we can limit our discussion to blocks. Files come in any size. They don't end on block boundaries. So with every file a part of the last block of every file is wasted. Assuming that file sizes are random, there is approximately a half block of waste for each file on your disk. Tanenbaum calls this "internal fragmentation" in his book "Operating Systems". You can guess the number of files on your disk by the number of allocated inodes on a disk. On my disk # df -i Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree %IUsed Mounted on /dev/hda3 64256 12234 5202219% / /dev/hda5 96000 43058 5294245% /var there are about 12000 files on / and about 44000 files on /var. At a block size of 1 KB, about 6+22 = 28 MB of disk space are lost in the tail blocks of files. Had I chosen a block size of 4 KB, I had lost 4 times this space. Data transfer is faster for large contiguous chunks of data, though. That's why ext2 tries to preallocate space in units of 8 contigous blocks for growing files. Unused preallocation is released when the file is closed, so no space is wasted. Noncontiguous placement of blocks in a file is bad for performance, since files are often accessed in a sequential manner. It forces the operating system to split a disk access and the disk to move the head. This is called "external fragmentation" or simply "fragmentation" and is a common problem with DOS file systems. ext2 has several strategies to avoid external fragmentation. Normally fragmentation is not a large problem in ext2, not even on heavily used partitions such as a USENET news spool. While there is a tool for defragmentation of ext2 file systems, nobody ever uses it and it is not up to date with the current release of ext2. Use it, but do so on your own risk. The MS-DOS file system is well known for its pathological managment of disk space. In conjunction with the abysmal buffer cache used by MS-DOS the effects of file fragmentation on performance are very noticeable. DOS users are accustomed to defragging their disks every few weeks and some have even developed some ritualistic beliefs regarding defragmentation. None of these habits should be carried over to Linux and ext2. Linux native file systems do not need defragmentation under normal use and this includes any condition with at least 5% of free space on a disk. The MS-DOS file system is also known to lose large amounts of disk space due to internal fragmentation. For partitions larger than 256 MB, DOS block sizes grow so large that they are no longer useful (This has been corrected to some extent with FAT32). ext2 does not force you to choose large blocks for large file systems, except for very large file systems in the 0.5 TB range (that's terabytes with 1 TB equaling 1024 GB) and above, where small block sizes become inefficient. So unlike DOS there is no need to split up large disks into multiple partitions to keep block size down. Use the 1 KB default block size if possible. You may want to experiment with a block size of 2 KB for some
RE: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK
Disklite keeper was designed to defrag NTFS. And it does need it! If you do not defrag on a regular schedule you will notice a drastic performance drop! Mac -Original Message- From: Civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK "Brash, Matthew" wrote: Supposedly defragging is unnessecary in Linux. The Ext2 file system doesn't get fragmented or something. Can anyone confirm/trash this idea? Confirm. The ext2 filesystem is, in the sense of the FAT-type filesystems fragmented a small amount--and it remains at that amount and does its "defragging" largely on the fly. The FAT system defrag makes files contiguous (occupying successive sectors on disk) and stacks them end-to-end from the beginning of the data area on the disk. When a file is removed, its allocated blocks are returned to the pool of unallocated blocks and used whenever. FAT32 is slightly more efficient in access and LESS efficient on space because it does not handle a 5K file, for example, with any grace at all. But the efficiency in access, which is slight to begin with, becomes terrible as soon as some files change size or some are deleted and others added.Thus we have the defrag. Note that Microsoft does not offer a defragmenter for NTFS... It is supposedly a more efficient system but who knows since they don't pass out the specifications So ext2fs doesn't really need a defragmenter. It is not bound to jamming everything as near as possible to the beginning of the disk to get effciency and most files have their data blocks stacked end-to-end though there will be a sort of checkerboard effect on what is used versus what is free across the disk or disk partition. Windows is based on a close link between the physical storage on the disk and the logical storage there. ext2fs is at a higher level of abstraction, deliberately fragmenting the free space on the disk so files are generally unfragmented.. Recent improvements have made ext2fs even better. rpmfind.net reports success with the journaling ext3 fs, and you can see the Reiserfs is now offered in linux-mandrake. None of those filesystems really need defragmenters. Civileme
RE: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK
-Original Message- From: Brian T. Schellenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK WeiQuan Tian wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version? Thanks in advance, Wei Quan Tian No, the Linux file system is designed properly, so there's no need. -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com. The ext2 file structure defrags on the "fly". Thier is a defrag tool but I don't know of anybody that has used it as of yet. Keep in mind Linux was designed to run for long periods of time with little disk maintainence. Mac
RE: [expert] gcc compile error
You are missing a compiler component or the compiler itself failed to install. Put your Drake CDROM in then open /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS look for gcc files. I am at work on an NT box so I can't give you the actual name. Then as root issue rpm -i gcc_whatever_version.rpm if I remember correctly there are a total of 12 packages just for C / C++ compilers. Mac -Original Message- From: Eugene Grimsdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] gcc compile error Instaling gcc make and automake on a instalation afther the normanl install I get the following error on ./configure - checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. - I used rpm --install to install the files. What did I do wrong and how can I fix this without reinstalling Mandrake 7.02 I know that this program compiles with Mandrake if I do a devoloper instalation. -- Eugene GrimsdellSystem Administrator OSRAM South Africa www.osram.co.za Tell: +27 11 805-1711 Cell: +27 83 491-0955 Fax:+27 11 405-0955
RE: [expert]
Yes it's called "grub" pretty nice although I have only used it once by accident. Mac -Original Message- From: Fran Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 5:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] This may not apply, but doesn't 7.1 use another loader other than LILO? Bambi Greg DeYoung wrote: I know this may not be the forum for this question but I posted it on the newbie list twice, and nobody seems to be able to give me an answer of what is happening. I know this not a unique problem, because I saw two other posts with the same problem. Please Help. Thanks, Greg DeYoung I just downloaded the new 7.1 and installed on my computer on the second hard drive. I'm running: Shuttle MB w/Celeron 500 128MB RAM IDE/33 1 - 6GB IDE 1 - 8GB IDE Voodo3 2000 AGP 5X DVD ATAPI ZIP Ensoniq Audio PCI I configured a 5GB partition as the Linux partition in the first slot of the second drive. Then I configured a 256MB Linux Swap. I'm also running System Commander 2000 as a boot manager. I installed 7.1 in expert mode and installed it to the first partition on the second hard drive. I set the LILO to boot from that partition. I also tried to do the same install only using GRUB in the same configuration. When I boot up into System Commander and choose the mandrake Linux to boot it will start to boot into the linux partition, and leave System Commander. Then I get the first letter of LILO "L" then a constant stream of 01 01 01 01 01 01 and it just continues. I have to reset the machine to get out of it. Anyone have any idea what is happening. I'm assuming it is a bad LILO install, but I reinstalled three times. Please Help... Thanks, Greg DeYoung __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
RE: [expert] ext2 under windows
I believe samba solves that problem? Mac -Original Message- From: Wayne Petherick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 6:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] ext2 under windows I have not yet been able to shake windows for a few tasks and I was wondering whether you can get any software to read ext2 filesystems under windows. I often DL stuff under Linux, boot into windows and then forget to xfer the stuff over which means a reboot blah blah blah. Any software to handle this task? Thanks, Wayne
RE: [expert] Re: DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)
well i am not sure how you got my e-mail but i'll play! Linux Mandrake user 10 months now. I am up to V7.0 from 6.0 and lovin it! Realistically though the only reason to upgrade is security or hardware functionallity, but then all you need to do is upgrade the required libs. If your kernel does it's job now without flaw or error then there is no real reason for a complete upgrade. well in my opinion that is. i do have a question for you though, how do i fix a broken DNS resolve? Ok here is the scenario... AMD K6-2 500 PC-100 196MB SDRAM 3COM NIC system up for 29+ days after new board install. network connectivity via cable modem, road runner is the ISP. good fast connetion until yesterday morning around 0600! here is what i can do: I can ping localhost I can ping an IP 24.24.244.24 I can obtain an IP with either the ifup eth0 or /etc/rc.d/init.d/network start commands I CAN'T resolve a DNS i.e - ping www.linux-mandrake.com, will not resolve the IP. all ISP information is correct the NIC is configured correctly and has been running for 28 days without error or conflict. my ISP has reset my account and when I ifup eth0 or /etc/rc.d/init.d/network start i can get an IP and it has been verified by my ISP as correct. I have read all my books (A whole heap of them!) and cannot seem to find an answer that works or addresses my issues. I DO NOT want to shut the system down. I am in an uptime competition with my neighbors NT machine. I am, or was running a firewall along with numerous other security implementations, again this system configuration has not changed in the last month! Have any ideas? Mac -Original Message- From: vern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 7:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Re: DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd) I expect to be able to upgrade from a prior version much easier than I did from Mdk 6.1 to Mdk 7.0. I would want to upgrade without having to trash my present setup. I tried to upgrade from 6.1 earlier this year and some things functioned some didn't, I had to do a clean install to get a full functioning version. It seems this would be a "doable thing" with a distro based on RPM's. vern Denis HAVLIK wrote: Hi, folks It feels strange when I have to reply to my own message but... I thought that "upgrade" is an extremely important topic, yet no one wants to discuss it. Does it mean that you are not interested (so we should stop worying about upgrade) or what? I repeat: :~What do you expect from upgrade? cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
