Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
Beautiful. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:30 AM, "Doug Coleman" wrote: > 1) Factor loads a ~/.factor-rc file every time it starts. You can put > things there: > > USE: tools.scaffold > scaffold-factor-rc > > Click it, edit it and add: > > USING: prettyprint.config namespaces ; > 16 number-base set-global > > > > 2) Alternately, there's a boot rc file that gets loaded after bootstrap: > > USE: tools.scaffold > scaffold-factor-boot-rc > > Click it, edit it and add: > > USING: prettyprint.config namespaces ; > 16 number-base set-global > > To load it without bootstrapping, call 'run-bootstrap-init' and then > 'save' your image. > > > Doug > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Michael Clagett wrote: >> Thanks. I knew it had to be something like that. And if I want it to be >> the default every time I load the Listener, I'm sure there must be a way to >> set that up? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:01 AM, "John Benediktsson" wrote: >> >> If you want all numbers to print in hex, the easiest way is: >> >> ``` >> IN: scratchpad 16 number-base set-global >> ``` >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Michael Clagett >> wrote: >>> >>> Quick question. Any way of having the data and retain stack panes of the >>> Walker display values in hex? >>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400 From: arc...@gmail.com To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image? On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett wrote: > Here's an obscure question that is of interest to me in my current > quest, > but probably not to anyone else. So if there is a better forum for me > to > ask such things, I would love to be instructed; until I hear > otherwise, > however, I will continue to use this list. > > Is there any place where I can penetrate the meaning of the following > constants: > > CONSTANT: rt-dlsym 0 > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point 1 > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point-pic 2 > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point-pic-tail 3 > CONSTANT: rt-here 4 > CONSTANT: rt-this 5 > CONSTANT: rt-literal 6 > CONSTANT: rt-untagged 7 > CONSTANT: rt-megamorphic-cache-hits 8 > CONSTANT: rt-vm 9 > CONSTANT: rt-cards-offset 10 > CONSTANT: rt-decks-offset 11 > CONSTANT: rt-exception-handler 12 > CONSTANT: rt-dlsym-toc 13 > CONSTANT: rt-inline-cache-miss 14 > CONSTANT: rt-safepoint 15 > > So far I've only encountered rt-here and I've only seen it encoded > into a > relocation entry and not really used anywhere yet. But this strikes me > as > the kind of thing it would be useful to know as I am slogging through > this > stuff. > > Not a hugely pressing question, as I'm sure I'll muddle through it. > But if > anyone has a moment to illuminate, it would be nice. Those are relocation record types. When the compiler generates code for a word, it also needs to generate relocation entries every time it references another word in a jump or call statement, much like a native C compiler needs to do for symbols in other modules. The VM uses these relocation entries to update the operands of jump and call instructions when code is written to the code heap, when the code heap is compacted, or if code is moved in memory for any reason. The different rt-* constants are used to describe what kind of object a relocation refers to, such as a foreign function in a DLL (dlsym), a word entry point (entry-point-*), the current address (here), etc. -Joe -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> ___ >>> Factor-talk mailing list >>> Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk >>> >> >>
Re: [Factor-talk] cannot add new word to factor file
You have to add the word to the file in a text editor. Then you can press f2 or "palindrome" reload. I'll make the tutorial more clear. Doug On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Market 0ne-Source.com wrote: > Hi, > > Going through palindrome sample on Windows XP > > "resource:work" "palindrome" scaffold-vocab > > palindrome directory created > palindrome.factor created, edited > > New word palindrome created and tested > but palindrome.factor does not add definition at file end > > Any suggestion ? > > Thanks, > > Arb > > > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Factor-talk mailing list > Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
1) Factor loads a ~/.factor-rc file every time it starts. You can put things there: USE: tools.scaffold scaffold-factor-rc Click it, edit it and add: USING: prettyprint.config namespaces ; 16 number-base set-global 2) Alternately, there's a boot rc file that gets loaded after bootstrap: USE: tools.scaffold scaffold-factor-boot-rc Click it, edit it and add: USING: prettyprint.config namespaces ; 16 number-base set-global To load it without bootstrapping, call 'run-bootstrap-init' and then 'save' your image. Doug On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Michael Clagett wrote: > Thanks. I knew it had to be something like that. And if I want it to be > the default every time I load the Listener, I'm sure there must be a way to > set that up? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:01 AM, "John Benediktsson" wrote: > > If you want all numbers to print in hex, the easiest way is: > > ``` > IN: scratchpad 16 number-base set-global > ``` > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Michael Clagett > wrote: >> >> Quick question. Any way of having the data and retain stack panes of the >> Walker display values in hex? >> >> > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400 >> > From: arc...@gmail.com >> > To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net >> > Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot >> > image? >> > >> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett >> > wrote: >> > > Here's an obscure question that is of interest to me in my current >> > > quest, >> > > but probably not to anyone else. So if there is a better forum for me >> > > to >> > > ask such things, I would love to be instructed; until I hear >> > > otherwise, >> > > however, I will continue to use this list. >> > > >> > > Is there any place where I can penetrate the meaning of the following >> > > constants: >> > > >> > > CONSTANT: rt-dlsym 0 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point 1 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point-pic 2 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point-pic-tail 3 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-here 4 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-this 5 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-literal 6 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-untagged 7 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-megamorphic-cache-hits 8 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-vm 9 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-cards-offset 10 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-decks-offset 11 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-exception-handler 12 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-dlsym-toc 13 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-inline-cache-miss 14 >> > > CONSTANT: rt-safepoint 15 >> > > >> > > So far I've only encountered rt-here and I've only seen it encoded >> > > into a >> > > relocation entry and not really used anywhere yet. But this strikes me >> > > as >> > > the kind of thing it would be useful to know as I am slogging through >> > > this >> > > stuff. >> > > >> > > Not a hugely pressing question, as I'm sure I'll muddle through it. >> > > But if >> > > anyone has a moment to illuminate, it would be nice. >> > >> > Those are relocation record types. When the compiler generates code >> > for a word, it also needs to generate relocation entries every time it >> > references another word in a jump or call statement, much like a >> > native C compiler needs to do for symbols in other modules. >> > The VM uses these relocation entries to update the operands of jump >> > and call instructions when code is written to the code heap, when the >> > code heap is compacted, or if code is moved in memory for any reason. >> > The different rt-* constants are used to describe what kind of object >> > a relocation refers to, such as a foreign function in a DLL (dlsym), a >> > word entry point (entry-point-*), the current address (here), etc. >> > >> > -Joe >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Live Security Virtual Conference >> > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> > Discussions >> > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> > malware >> > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> > ___ >> > Factor-talk mailing list >> > Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk >> >> >> -- >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> ___ >> Factor-talk mailing list >> Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk >> > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > thre
Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
Thanks. I knew it had to be something like that. And if I want it to be the default every time I load the Listener, I'm sure there must be a way to set that up? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:01 AM, "John Benediktsson" wrote: > If you want all numbers to print in hex, the easiest way is: > > ``` > IN: scratchpad 16 number-base set-global > ``` > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Michael Clagett wrote: > Quick question. Any way of having the data and retain stack panes of the > Walker display values in hex? > > > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400 > > From: arc...@gmail.com > > To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot > > image? > > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett > > wrote: > > > Here's an obscure question that is of interest to me in my current quest, > > > but probably not to anyone else. So if there is a better forum for me to > > > ask such things, I would love to be instructed; until I hear otherwise, > > > however, I will continue to use this list. > > > > > > Is there any place where I can penetrate the meaning of the following > > > constants: > > > > > > CONSTANT: rt-dlsym 0 > > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point 1 > > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point-pic 2 > > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point-pic-tail 3 > > > CONSTANT: rt-here 4 > > > CONSTANT: rt-this 5 > > > CONSTANT: rt-literal 6 > > > CONSTANT: rt-untagged 7 > > > CONSTANT: rt-megamorphic-cache-hits 8 > > > CONSTANT: rt-vm 9 > > > CONSTANT: rt-cards-offset 10 > > > CONSTANT: rt-decks-offset 11 > > > CONSTANT: rt-exception-handler 12 > > > CONSTANT: rt-dlsym-toc 13 > > > CONSTANT: rt-inline-cache-miss 14 > > > CONSTANT: rt-safepoint 15 > > > > > > So far I've only encountered rt-here and I've only seen it encoded into a > > > relocation entry and not really used anywhere yet. But this strikes me as > > > the kind of thing it would be useful to know as I am slogging through this > > > stuff. > > > > > > Not a hugely pressing question, as I'm sure I'll muddle through it. But if > > > anyone has a moment to illuminate, it would be nice. > > > > Those are relocation record types. When the compiler generates code > > for a word, it also needs to generate relocation entries every time it > > references another word in a jump or call statement, much like a > > native C compiler needs to do for symbols in other modules. > > The VM uses these relocation entries to update the operands of jump > > and call instructions when code is written to the code heap, when the > > code heap is compacted, or if code is moved in memory for any reason. > > The different rt-* constants are used to describe what kind of object > > a relocation refers to, such as a foreign function in a DLL (dlsym), a > > word entry point (entry-point-*), the current address (here), etc. > > > > -Joe > > > > -- > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > ___ > > Factor-talk mailing list > > Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Factor-talk mailing list > Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk > > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Factor-talk mailing list > Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats.
Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
If you want all numbers to print in hex, the easiest way is: ``` IN: scratchpad 16 number-base set-global ``` On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Michael Clagett wrote: > Quick question. Any way of having the data and retain stack panes of > the Walker display values in hex? > > > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400 > > From: arc...@gmail.com > > To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot > image? > > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett > wrote: > > > Here's an obscure question that is of interest to me in my current > quest, > > > but probably not to anyone else. So if there is a better forum for me > to > > > ask such things, I would love to be instructed; until I hear otherwise, > > > however, I will continue to use this list. > > > > > > Is there any place where I can penetrate the meaning of the following > > > constants: > > > > > > CONSTANT: rt-dlsym 0 > > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point 1 > > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point-pic 2 > > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point-pic-tail 3 > > > CONSTANT: rt-here 4 > > > CONSTANT: rt-this 5 > > > CONSTANT: rt-literal 6 > > > CONSTANT: rt-untagged 7 > > > CONSTANT: rt-megamorphic-cache-hits 8 > > > CONSTANT: rt-vm 9 > > > CONSTANT: rt-cards-offset 10 > > > CONSTANT: rt-decks-offset 11 > > > CONSTANT: rt-exception-handler 12 > > > CONSTANT: rt-dlsym-toc 13 > > > CONSTANT: rt-inline-cache-miss 14 > > > CONSTANT: rt-safepoint 15 > > > > > > So far I've only encountered rt-here and I've only seen it encoded > into a > > > relocation entry and not really used anywhere yet. But this strikes me > as > > > the kind of thing it would be useful to know as I am slogging through > this > > > stuff. > > > > > > Not a hugely pressing question, as I'm sure I'll muddle through it. > But if > > > anyone has a moment to illuminate, it would be nice. > > > > Those are relocation record types. When the compiler generates code > > for a word, it also needs to generate relocation entries every time it > > references another word in a jump or call statement, much like a > > native C compiler needs to do for symbols in other modules. > > The VM uses these relocation entries to update the operands of jump > > and call instructions when code is written to the code heap, when the > > code heap is compacted, or if code is moved in memory for any reason. > > The different rt-* constants are used to describe what kind of object > > a relocation refers to, such as a foreign function in a DLL (dlsym), a > > word entry point (entry-point-*), the current address (here), etc. > > > > -Joe > > > > > -- > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. > Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in > malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > ___ > > Factor-talk mailing list > > Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk > > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Factor-talk mailing list > Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk > > -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
[Factor-talk] cannot add new word to factor file
Hi, Going through palindrome sample on Windows XP "resource:work" "palindrome" scaffold-vocab palindrome directory created palindrome.factor created, edited New word palindrome created and tested but palindrome.factor does not add definition at file end Any suggestion ? Thanks, Arb -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
Quick question. Any way of having the data and retain stack panes of the Walker display values in hex? > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400 > From: arc...@gmail.com > To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot > image? > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett > wrote: > > Here's an obscure question that is of interest to me in my current quest, > > but probably not to anyone else. So if there is a better forum for me to > > ask such things, I would love to be instructed; until I hear otherwise, > > however, I will continue to use this list. > > > > Is there any place where I can penetrate the meaning of the following > > constants: > > > > CONSTANT: rt-dlsym 0 > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point 1 > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point-pic 2 > > CONSTANT: rt-entry-point-pic-tail 3 > > CONSTANT: rt-here 4 > > CONSTANT: rt-this 5 > > CONSTANT: rt-literal 6 > > CONSTANT: rt-untagged 7 > > CONSTANT: rt-megamorphic-cache-hits 8 > > CONSTANT: rt-vm 9 > > CONSTANT: rt-cards-offset 10 > > CONSTANT: rt-decks-offset 11 > > CONSTANT: rt-exception-handler 12 > > CONSTANT: rt-dlsym-toc 13 > > CONSTANT: rt-inline-cache-miss 14 > > CONSTANT: rt-safepoint 15 > > > > So far I've only encountered rt-here and I've only seen it encoded into a > > relocation entry and not really used anywhere yet. But this strikes me as > > the kind of thing it would be useful to know as I am slogging through this > > stuff. > > > > Not a hugely pressing question, as I'm sure I'll muddle through it. But if > > anyone has a moment to illuminate, it would be nice. > > Those are relocation record types. When the compiler generates code > for a word, it also needs to generate relocation entries every time it > references another word in a jump or call statement, much like a > native C compiler needs to do for symbols in other modules. > The VM uses these relocation entries to update the operands of jump > and call instructions when code is written to the code heap, when the > code heap is compacted, or if code is moved in memory for any reason. > The different rt-* constants are used to describe what kind of object > a relocation refers to, such as a foreign function in a DLL (dlsym), a > word entry point (entry-point-*), the current address (here), etc. > > -Joe > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Factor-talk mailing list > Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk
