Re: [Factor-talk] Can't open graphical listener in Ubuntu 12.04

2014-09-16 Thread John Porubek
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 3:37 PM, John Porubek  wrote:
> So I removed one of the libGL.so links and it didn't fix the problem.
> But I can't be sure now from memory if it was the one pointing to
> mesa/libGL.so. Again, I'll check Monday.

I did remove the correct one. After a restart, no difference, same GUI
listener behavior. A quick question wherein I expose my Linux
ignorance: Do I need to restart after making a change like removing a
*.so file, or can I just run ldconfig with no flags?

I didn't give the full story when I first described what is happening.
Sometimes, right after a boot or restart, the GUI listener will work
for a while. However, if I restore a minimized window later on, the
GUI listener disappears. Subsequent attempts to re-open the listener
produce the results I originally described.

FWIW, here's the latest results from $ ldconfig -p | grep "libGL\." :

libGL.so.1 (libc6, OS ABI: Linux 2.4.20) =>
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1
libGL.so (libc6, OS ABI: Linux 2.4.20) =>
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so
libGL.so (libc6, OS ABI: Linux 2.4.20) => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so

This is the same as before, after I put the removed link back, minus
the extraneous stuff. The bottom link points to the one above it,
which in turn points to the one above it. The top one points to
mesa/libGL.so.1.2

I couldn't find glxgears or the package mesa-utils. Are these in Factor?

-John

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Re: [Factor-talk] Can't open graphical listener in Ubuntu 12.04

2014-09-16 Thread mr wzrd
 > I couldn't find glxgears or the package mesa-utils. Are these in 
Factor? -John

Was unable to install *anything* with apt-get from Ubuntu 12.04.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25350405/sudo-apt-get-update-not-working

Seems that the sources list has changed with the move to 14.04.

Solution for me was just to reinstall linux from scratch.

Don't have any particularly special configuration, so reinstallation was 
easy.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD

Installed the Factor binary, which worked out of the box.

   - mrw


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Re: [Factor-talk] Can't open graphical listener in Ubuntu 12.04

2014-09-16 Thread mr wzrd
 > I couldn't find glxgears or the package mesa-utils. Are these in 
Factor? -John

Ideally, would reinstall with something more stable, like the latest 
plain Debian.

Debian, however, doesn't automatically handle  "secure boot mode", 
whereas Ubuntu 14.04 does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot

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Re: [Factor-talk] Can't open graphical listener in Ubuntu 12.04

2014-09-16 Thread mr wzrd
On 09/16/2014 05:44 PM, mr wzrd wrote:
> > I couldn't find glxgears or the package mesa-utils. Are these in 
> Factor? -John
>
> Ideally, would reinstall with something more stable, like the latest 
> plain Debian.

Even more ideally, there would be enough functionality within Factor to 
make the listener the center of the universe, rather than the unix terminal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtvgf_CyiS0#t=12m30s

All these "packages" would just be "vocabularies" to be added to the 
listener's search path.

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Re: [Factor-talk] Can't open graphical listener in Ubuntu 12.04

2014-09-16 Thread Jon Harper
Le 16 sept. 2014 23:17, "John Porubek"  a écrit :
> Do I need to restart after making a change like removing a
> *.so file, or can I just run ldconfig with no flags?
Running "ldconfig" as root is sufficient for the next programs you  start.

> I didn't give the full story when I first described what is happening.
> Sometimes, right after a boot or restart, the GUI listener will work
> for a while. However, if I restore a minimized window later on, the
> GUI listener disappears. Subsequent attempts to re-open the listener
> produce the results I originally described.
Hmmm, that doesn't look like a factor bug...

> FWIW, the latest results from $ ldconfig -p | grep "libGL\." :
>
> libGL.so.1 (libc6, OS ABI: Linux 2.4.20) =>
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1
> libGL.so (libc6, OS ABI: Linux 2.4.20) =>
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so
> libGL.so (libc6, OS ABI: Linux 2.4.20) =>
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so
>
> This is the same as before, after I put the removed link back, minus
> the extraneous stuff. The bottom link points to the one above it,
> which in turn points to the one above it. The top one points to
> mesa/libGL.so.1.2
This looks normal.

>
> I couldn't find glxgears or the package mesa-utils. Are these in Factor?
No, glxgears is a standard program. On ubuntu it comes in mesa-utils (see
http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/mesa-utils/filelist), what distro
are you using?

Cheers,
Jon
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