[FairfieldLife] Re: TM technique versus TM Program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I practise the TM Program. That is to say that for 20 minutes twice a day I sit down and practise the TM Technique. But -- equally importantly -- after I practise the TM technique I then go into the field of activity and engage in action according to my own needs, desires and wants. My actions and how I conduct myself in my field of activity are dictated by my conscience, my culture, how I was brought up, my traditions -- religious and otherwise -- and, of course, common sense and rationality. Shemp, I gots to say that your English is very enjoyable to read! I'm not in a position to evaluate its correcteness, but in my ears it often kinda flows very effortlessly, so to speak, despite my minor visual defect, that occasionally tends to make my reading quite frustrating, especially when I try to read faster than the defect allows me to. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM technique versus TM Program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I practise the TM Program. That is to say that for 20 minutes twice a day I sit down and practise the TM Technique. But -- equally importantly -- after I practise the TM technique I then go into the field of activity and engage in action according to my own needs, desires and wants. My actions and how I conduct myself in my field of activity are dictated by my conscience, my culture, how I was brought up, my traditions -- religious and otherwise -- and, of course, common sense and rationality. Shemp, I gots to say that your English is very enjoyable to read! I'm not in a position to evaluate its correcteness, but in my ears it often kinda flows very effortlessly, so to speak, despite my minor visual defect, that occasionally tends to make my reading quite frustrating, especially when I try to read faster than the defect allows me to. He does write well. This was a very nicely done piece. (Knows how to use dashes too; not everyone does.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM technique versus TM Program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you %100 - you are totally correct and the major problem with the movement is what you have mentioned. Silence and activity together completes the TM programme which for most followers the active part or daily life is swept out of it. Define most followers. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Have youse tried /sudoku/?
http://www.sudoku.com/home.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Experience: Fatal Flood
Jim wrote: Bush is a rich, country club kid, and that is what drives his actions, or lack of actions. And he wants to validate himself with the rich and powerful, so he pretends to be powerful by: 1. throwing other people's money at the rich and powerful, 2. weakening social, economic and environmental controls to the rich becoming irresponsibly more so, and 3. throwing away other people's lives to accomplish the aims of the rich and powerful, so they will accept him. Its all pretty short-sighted from my point of view, but it isn't racist. Shortsighted it is, and an understatement at that. Did anyone else get to see that article on the official website of the Project for a New American Century which indicated that the Bush Administration considered 20 million American lives an acceptable loss in a *winnable* nuclear war? I saw that article on the website around about 2002, as I recall. Long since removed, obviously... So what's a paltry 2,000 in Iraq, and 7-800 in New Orleans? Not only that, but what's the point of worrying about the environment when the Second Coming is imminent, eh? http://www.mindfully.org/Heritage/2003/Bush-War-On-Nature6jan03.htm Difficult as it may be to believe, many of the right-wing conservatives who have great influence in the Bush administration and now in Congress are governed by a higher power. In his book The Carbon Wars, Greenpeace activist Jeremy Leggett tells how he stumbled upon this otherworldly agenda. During Kyoto Protocol climate change negotiations, Leggett candidly asks Ford Motor Co. executive John Schiller how opponents of the pact could believe there is no problem with a world of a billion cars intent on burning all the oil and gas available on the planet. The executive asserts first that scientists get it wrong when they say fossil fuels have been sequestered underground for eons. The earth, he says, is just 10,000 years old -- not 4.5 billion years old, the age widely accepted by scientists. Then Schiller drops the bomb: You know, the more I look, the more it is just as it says in the Bible. The Book of Daniel, he tells Leggett, predicts that increased earthly devastation will mark the End Time and return of Christ. Paradoxically, Leggett notes, many fundamentalists see dying coral reefs, melting ice caps and other environmental destruction not as an urgent call to action but as God's will. Within the religious right worldview, the wreck of the earth is Good News! Some true believers, interpreting biblical prophecy, are sure they will be saved from the horrific destruction brought by ecosystem collapse. They'll be raptured: rescued from earth by God, who will then rain down seven ghastly years of misery on unbelieving humanity. During this tribulation, a powerful ruler led by Satan and called the antichrist will rule the world. Then Jesus will come in glory to defeat Satan's forces at the battle of Armageddon. His return marks the Millennium, when the Lord restores the earth to its green pristine condition, and the faithful enjoy a thousand years of peace and prosperity. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you repeat the question in more detail. I have the answer. What is it that's uncertain in Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inspired by re-reading A Brief History of Time: What is it that's uncertain in HUP? (I just learned that Niels Bohr preferred undeterminacy, or stuff.) Hereabouts uncertainty is translated to something that's rather inaccuracy! :0 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM technique versus TM Program
the ones do not work out there in the mid of life like every body else and have forgotten of the real world out there. I remember oncea friend was complaining not being able to cope with outside world and not being able to pass a crowded street. very very nice - very nice - isnt it!sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you %100 - you are totally correct and the major problem with the movement is what you have mentioned. "Silence and activity" together completes the TM programme which for most followers the active part or daily life is swept out of it. Define "most followers."__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM technique versus TM Program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the ones do not work out there in the mid of life like every body else and have forgotten of the real world out there. I remember once a friend was complaining not being able to cope with outside world and not being able to pass a crowded street. very very nice - very nice - isnt it! So you're saying that there are more people practicing TM in Fairfield, IA than in the entire rest of the world combined? sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you %100 - you are totally correct and the major problem with the movement is what you have mentioned. Silence and activity together completes the TM programme which for most followers the active part or daily life is swept out of it. Define most followers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Kirkwood community college cedar rapids iowa Maharishi mahesh yogi - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group FairfieldLife on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Yagna by Choice -- They knew all about me and my life
Tom, if you aren't reading anything on this newsgroup, then why are you posting on it? Doesn't that strike you as a tad strange? Perhaps as strange as me posting this for you? --- Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not reading posts, so if you decide to reply, you'll be being catty to other members of the FFL snakepit, not to me. I am posting this because every now and again there is someone wanting to learn something useful. I am eternally grateful to the person who posted out on alt.meditation.transcendental some years ago that if someone felt their life was not moving, they should consider yagyas. I paid dearly to many to burn off enough karma to have been gifted by the appearance of YBC in my life. The analysis of the 6 planets chosen for my crash jump start and for those and other planets chosen for ensuing months was quite short. It filled a page at most. It was however, as though someone had been listening to my every thought all my life as well as observing my triumphs, struggles and defeats. It described how it felt, how it was, how it was going. With words I would use to describe things, if I had had the insight and courage. Like no Jyotish or other reading (I've even had ancient Aztec astrology readings). The more I read the explaination, the more I wonder how do these people know I've been feeling this way?. I've been around the jyotish and yagya block. I'm a post graduate of the junor pundit many of you respect so much, Ben Collins. Been there. Been done by that. This is one real, legitimate class act. Unlike other groups I've graduated from, this group is not stumbling around in the dark and being taken in by an opportunistic priest. This is the real thing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Experience: Fatal Flood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a passive lack of concern based on ignorance of the experience of others that are not privledged. This has always been the curse of America's ruling class. There is no intent to be uncaring, there's just a lack of awareness of the daily grind that most people call life. I tend to agree. I encounter the same thing here in France, where the term upper class means some- thing quite different than it does in America. It's more like in England, in the sense that class is hereditary. No matter how much money you make, you essentially are going to die in the same class that you were born in. Your children may be per- ceived to be upper class, but you will not. In America, you can earn enough money to buy your way into the upper class and be accepted there in your lifetime. However, there is still a vast gulf between that level of the upper class and the level of old money. Old money, in the US, means that your grandfather had money. Old money in France means that your great-great-great-great grandparents had money, and possibly a title. When I meet people here from this background, as nice as they may occasionally be, there is almost always this ignorance of the real lives of the common people and this passive lack of concern that you speak of. It's like what the Buddha must have been like when he was still being kept inside the palace by his parents. He had no IDEA what lay outside the palace gates; those people and their daily existence was just not part of his awareness. And it was not part of his awareness until he snuck out of the palace and encountered reality for the first time. That experience set him on the pathway to compassion. A lot of rich folks on this rock need to sneak out of the fuckin' palace. Their ignorance and their passive lack of concern is adding to the suffering of millions of people's lives. I really like it when I read about someone who is rich and famous doing something that involves gettin' down in the mud and interacting with the common people. It can indicate that this person is open to experience outside his class, outside the walls of the palace. Like when Sean Penn went down to New Orleans recently to help out. I read one account, from a firefighter there who encount- ered him, that shows *just* how down in the mud he got. The firefighter wrote of how Penn dived into the sewage/chemical stew to save people who had been swept away in the current while trying to reach the boat that had come to rescue them. It's easy to hear stories like this and go all cynical about them, like, Oh, that's just a pub- licity stunt. But then you read a little bit further into the matter and you find out that Sean Penn actually used to be a firefighter, back in New York, before he was famous. He had the skills; he cared; he went there to help, by put- ting those skills to use. If George W. Bush, or Tony Blair, of any of the pissy old upper-class men who run the world would just get down in the mud once or twice in their lives, I think the world would be a much better place afterwards. But they won't. They think they're too good for the mud. Fuck that. The mud is too good for them. Unc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Love Story
I found this on another forum, billed as an extract from the latest Mills and Boon novel. Mills and Boon seems to be a Web seller of romantic fiction that also publishes whole novels for free online. If this is any indication of what they are like, I'm going to have to start reading them. - Unc We met in a secluded field, the sun nearly kissing the evening horizon. The warm breeze was full of that earthy, musky scent that only those fortunate enough to live outside the urban rat race know, and a quiet whispering of leaves in the weeping willow overhead added the final touch to the most romantic scene. We lay there, both as nature had intended. I knew I had to have her, and have her now. Without a word being spoken, I moved to a position of dominance. I could feel instantly that this was what she was waiting for as she frantically thrust her pelvis at my approaching organ. I moved slowly at first, inch by inch, until I was fully inside her. Then as the tension rose, we threw caution to the wind and abandoned ourselves to the moment. Although inexperienced, she approached every change of position with enthusiasm, moaning with despair every time I withdrew to prevent myself ending it all too soon. As the sexual tension heightened towards the inevitable mind blowing climax, it was all I could do to hold out any longer. Finally, the moment we had been building up to was upon us, and passed all too quickly. Breathlessly we rolled together in the now damp grass. As the last deep orange glow of the long setting sun melted into the darkness of approaching night, we lay there still entwined in an amorous embrace. I kissed her long and lovingly, and whispered reassuringly how good she had been. She tenderly and sensuously licked my inner ear and whispered, 'Baa' before rejoining the flock. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The American Experience: Fatal Flood
On 9/17/05 7:38 AM, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like it when I read about someone who is rich and famous doing something that involves gettin' down in the mud and interacting with the common people. It can indicate that this person is open to experience outside his class, outside the walls of the palace. Like when Sean Penn went down to New Orleans recently to help out. I read one account, from a firefighter there who encount- ered him, that shows *just* how down in the mud he got. The firefighter wrote of how Penn dived into the sewage/chemical stew to save people who had been swept away in the current while trying to reach the boat that had come to rescue them. In Red Cross Disaster relief, the volunteers seem to be mainly of two types: older people who are retired or near-retired, and wealthier people of some independent means who will just go from disaster to disaster. Since participation on the national level requires a *minimum* two-week commitment, not a lot of people can do this. But a lot of people with the means can and do do this, we just never hear about it. There are karma dakinis at all levels of society. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The American Experience: Fatal Flood
On 9/17/05 4:46 AM, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shortsighted it is, and an understatement at that. Did anyone else get to see that article on the official website of the Project for a New American Century which indicated that the Bush Administration considered 20 million American lives an acceptable loss in a *winnable* nuclear war? I saw that article on the website around about 2002, as I recall. Long since removed, obviously... But old news really. I grew up near one of the primary nuclear hit sites in the US--#7 when I was a kid. This is where the US Army War College was and where all the officers trained in their war games. A close friend in college invited me to his parent's estate and it turned out he his dad was top brass at the college. We played poker with he and his friends. Turns out his dad had spent over ten years studying the possibilities of nuclear war--which was better or more winnable?--a long drawn out nuclear war or a short, quick one. The lurid details were discussed in some detail over cigars and cards. I remember leaving and trembling. Anyways, that was in the late 70's, so they've been working on this a long, long time. Heck these guys even have a hollowed out mountain to go to just north of Camp David... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Experience: Fatal Flood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck these guys even have a hollowed out mountain to go to just north of Camp David... Can you just imagine what the karma of having to use it would be like? It would be like Poe's The Masque of the Red Death. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The American Experience: Fatal Flood
On 9/17/05 8:54 AM, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck these guys even have a hollowed out mountain to go to just north of Camp David... Can you just imagine what the karma of having to use it would be like? It would be like Poe's The Masque of the Red Death. I've often thought about it since I was a child. Since I was quite young, I used to have recurring nightmares of nuclear disaster. About 15 years ago, the dreams stopped, but I've since talked to yogis who seen nuclear disasters in visions. One famous himalayan yogi even wrote prayer regarding this: A Prayer to Avert Nuclear War by Chatral Rinpoche Namo Guru Ratnatraya! To the Teacher and the Three Jewels, I bow. True leader of the golden age - Crown of the Sakyas! Second Buddha, Prince of Oddiyana, Lake-Born Vajra, Bodhisattvas - eight closest spiritual heirs, High Nobles, Avalokiteshvara and Manjushri, Vajrapani and the rest! Twenty-one Taras, Host of Noble Elders, Root and lineage lamas, deities, Peaceful and wrathful gods! Dakinis in your three homes! (the earth, the heavens and the emanated worlds!) You who through wisdom or karma have become Defenders of the Doctrine! Guardians of the Directions! Seventy-five Glorious Protectors! You who are clairvoyant, powerful, magical and mighty! Behold and ponder the beings of this age of turmoil! We are beings born at the sorry end of time; An ocean of ill-effects overflow from our universally bad actions. The forces of light flicker, The forces of darkness, a demon army, inflames great and powerful men. And they rise in conflict, armed with nuclear weapons That will disintegrate the earth. The weapon of perverse and errant intentions Has unleashed the hurricane. Soon, in an instant, it will reduce the world And all those in it to atoms of dust Through this ill-omened devils' tool It is easy to see, to hear and think about Ignorant people, caught in a net of confusion and doubt, Are obstinate and still refuse to understand. It terrifies us just to hear about or to remember This unprecedented thing. The world is filled with uncertainty, But there is no means of stopping it, nor place of hope, Other than you, undeceiving Three Jewels and Three Roots, (Buddhas, Teaching and Spiritual Community, Lama, Deity and Dakini) If we cry to you like children calling their mother and father, If we implore you with this prayer, Do not falter in your ancient vows! Stretch out the lightning hand of compassion! Protect and shelter us defenseless beings, and free us from fear! When the mighty barbarians sit in council of war - - barbarians who rob the earth of pleasure and happiness - - barbarians who have wrong, rough, poisonous thoughts. Bend their chiefs and lieutenants To the side of peace and happiness! Pacify on the spot, the armed struggle that blocks us! Turn away and defeat the atomic weapons Of the demons' messengers, And by that power, make long the life of the righteous, And spread the theory and practice of the doctrine To the four corners of this great world! Eliminate root, branch and leaf - even the names Of those dark forces, human and non-human, Who hate others and the teaching! Spread vast happiness and goodness Over this fragile planet! Elevate it truly with the four kinds of glory! And as in the golden age, with all strife gone, Let us be busy only with the dance of pleasure, the dance of joy! We pray with pure thoughts - By the compassion of that ocean the three supreme refuges And the power of the Realm of Truth; The complete sublime truth, Achieve the goal of this, our prayer Magically, just as we have hoped and dreamed! Translated from the Tibetan by Richard Kohn and Lama Tsedrup Tharchin Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice -- They knew all about me and my life
Clearly he is trying to save us from our strangeness. I feel bad for him. It must be dark inside those pointy white hats. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, if you aren't reading anything on this newsgroup, then why are you posting on it? Doesn't that strike you as a tad strange? Perhaps as strange as me posting this for you? --- Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not reading posts, so if you decide to reply, you'll be being catty to other members of the FFL snakepit, not to me. I am posting this because every now and again there is someone wanting to learn something useful. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Experience: Fatal Flood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck these guys even have a hollowed out mountain to go to just north of Camp David... Can you just imagine what the karma of having to use it would be like? It would be like Poe's The Masque of the Red Death. For those who don't know the story: http://eserver.org/books/poe/masque_of_the_red_death.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Experience: Fatal Flood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip A close friend in college invited me to his parent's estate and it turned out he his dad was top brass at the college. We played poker with he and his friends. Turns out his dad had spent over ten years studying the possibilities of nuclear war--which was better or more winnable?--a long drawn out nuclear war or a short, quick one. The lurid details were discussed in some detail over cigars and cards. I remember leaving and trembling. Anyways, that was in the late 70's, so they've been working on this a long, long time. Oh, gee, I remember it from the '60s. It was a cold war thing. Dr. Strangelove came out in 1964, after all, so it was already well established by then. There was also the whole duck and cover thing back in the '50s, for that matter. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM technique versus TM Program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the ones do not work out there in the mid of life like every body else and have forgotten of the real world out there. I remember once a friend was complaining not being able to cope with outside world and not being able to pass a crowded street. This effect has a standard solution. Ask any good teacher or if no success, the sufferer should go to one of the old time teachers; someone who did TTC in the early seventies. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM technique versus TM Program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the ones do not work out there in the mid of life like every body else and have forgotten of the real world out there. I remember once a friend was complaining not being able to cope with outside world and not being able to pass a crowded street. This effect has a standard solution. Ask any good teacher or if no success, the sufferer should go to one of the old time teachers; someone who did TTC in the early seventies. One informal (and likely not TMO-approved) solution, according to a teacher friend of that vintage, was to go out and have a couple of rare hamburgers. Instant grounding, apparently. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM technique versus TM Program
--- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the ones do not work out there in the mid of life like every body else and have forgotten of the real world out there. I remember once a friend was complaining not being able to cope with outside world and not being able to pass a crowded street. This effect has a standard solution. Ask any good teacher or if no success, the sufferer should go to one of the old time teachers; someone who did TTC in the early seventies. Uns. I was on the first TTC (LaAntilla) in the fall of '72 where MMY cut way back on the rounding (only 6 and 6). He seemed to be pleased with the results. Space cases were kept to a minimum. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Love Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this on another forum, billed as an extract from the latest Mills and Boon novel. Mills and Boon seems to be a Web seller of romantic fiction that also publishes whole novels for free online. If this is any indication of what they are like, I'm going to have to start reading them. - Unc ---snipping purient content- So you're 'baa'sically saying that it's a well written love story? JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Love Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this on another forum, billed as an extract from the latest Mills and Boon novel. Mills and Boon seems to be a Web seller of romantic fiction that also publishes whole novels for free online. If this is any indication of what they are like, I'm going to have to start reading them. - Unc ---snipping purient content- So you're 'baa'sically saying that it's a well written love story? Either that or I was just mutton you on... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice -- They knew all about me and my life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, if you aren't reading anything on this newsgroup, then why are you posting on it? Doesn't that strike you as a tad strange? Perhaps as strange as me posting this for you? Kind of like running into your neighbors yard, pulling your pants down, taking a dump, and then runnning back in your yard before anyone can confront you about it. My thumbnail analysis - Someone said Tom suffered abuse as a child. Isn't typical that emotional development gets arrested at the time of the abuse - kind of like some girls who retain that little girl voice even well past that stage. Emotionally Tom seems immature. Fortunately he is not around to read this, so it really can't be considered bad taste. lurk __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice -- They knew all about me and my life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, if you aren't reading anything on this newsgroup, then why are you posting on it? Doesn't that strike you as a tad strange? Perhaps as strange as me posting this for you? Kind of like running into your neighbors yard, pulling your pants down, taking a dump, and then runnning back in your yard before anyone can confront you about it. My thumbnail analysis - Someone said Tom suffered abuse as a child. Isn't typical that emotional development gets arrested at the time of the abuse - kind of like some girls who retain that little girl voice even well past that stage. Emotionally Tom seems immature. Fortunately he is not around to read this, so it really can't be considered bad taste. You guys may be being a little tough on Tom. There is an aspect of selfless service in these dump posts. He's trying to turn us on to a bigger, better yagya provider. It may be shit, but it's good shit. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you repeat the question in more detail. I have the answer. What is it that's uncertain in Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? Before you do the experiment, the position, direction, and spin of the particle cannot be known because it is only when the observer observes the atom that it has the characteristics you observe. In other words, it really was not a particle until it is concretized by an observation, and the observer had a part in it's state/creation. It was really just a potential in the field, and it had infinite possible trajecteries and spin, but it cannot be known ahead of time which it would take. It is uncertain. Only after observation can one see which trajectory it took. It could take any. Even after it is observed, one cannot really say it is a concrete item. It is really a wave with no real boundaries within the quantum ocean that it arises from. Therefore, the characteristics of the universe are dependent on the characteristics of the observer, (as Maharishi has stated). OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you repeat the question in more detail. I have the answer. What is it that's uncertain in Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? Before you do the experiment, the position, direction, and spin of the particle cannot be known because it is only when the observer observes the atom that it has the characteristics you observe. In other words, it really was not a particle until it is concretized by an observation, and the observer had a part in it's state/creation. It was really just a potential in the field, and it had infinite possible trajecteries and spin, but it cannot be known ahead of time which it would take. It is uncertain. Only after observation can one see which trajectory it took. It could take any. Even after it is observed, one cannot really say it is a concrete item. It is really a wave with no real boundaries within the quantum ocean that it arises from. Therefore, the characteristics of the universe are dependent on the characteristics of the observer, (as Maharishi has stated). Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM technique versus TM Program
Well to give a very very short deffenition: 1- you need rest and activity 2- too much rest without enough activity, keeps you out of balance- and the same is true forlots ofactivity 3-People who keep on meditating 7 to 8 hours a day without much physical activity will end up havingproblems copping with the active life around them-which meansdoing tm tech only 4- Once you are able to adjust yourselfin a balanced conditionbetween rest and activity, then you have created a physical reality as is taught in ttc courses - and that is TM programme 5- I do not live in Iowa - but what I mentioned covers the whole TM population of the world either practicing or have left the programme aside. 6- This is the most important issue that once you have a good grip of it you are on a good evolutionary ride else are wasting your time. sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the ones do not work out there in the mid of life like every body else and have forgotten of the real world out there. I remember once a friend was complaining not being able to cope with outside world and not being able to pass a crowded street. very very nice - very nice - isnt it!So you're saying that there are more people practicing TM in Fairfield, IA than in the entire rest of the world combined? sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you %100 - you are totally correct and the major problem with the movement is what you have mentioned. "Silence and activity" together completes the TM programme which for most followers the active part or daily life is swept out of it.Define "most followers." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Kirkwood community college cedar rapids iowa Maharishi mahesh yogi - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKSVisit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Kirkwood community college cedar rapids iowa Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice -- They knew all about me and my life
--- Peter wrote: Tom, if you aren't reading anything on this newsgroup, then why are you posting on it? I, for one, had expressed interest in how his yagyas were working. I believe a few others also asked to be kept informed. - Patrick Gillam Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM technique versus TM Program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jamshad Ghanbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well to give a very very short deffenition: 1- you need rest and activity 2- too much rest without enough activity, keeps you out of balance- and the same is true for lots of activity 3-People who keep on meditating 7 to 8 hours a day without much physical activity will end up having problems copping with the active life around them- which means doing tm tech only 4- Once you are able to adjust yourself in a balanced condition between rest and activity, then you have created a physical reality as is taught in ttc courses - and that is TM programme 5- I do not live in Iowa - but what I mentioned covers the whole TM population of the world either practicing or have left the programme aside. 6- This is the most important issue that once you have a good grip of it you are on a good evolutionary ride else are wasting your time. 7. #Õs 1-6 so loaded with assumption that they become scarcely intelligible. -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice -- They knew all about me and my life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, if you aren't reading anything on this newsgroup, then why are you posting on it? Doesn't that strike you as a tad strange? Perhaps as strange as me posting this for you? Kind of like running into your neighbors yard, pulling your pants down, taking a dump, and then runnning back in your yard before anyone can confront you about it. My thumbnail analysis - Someone said Tom suffered abuse as a child. Isn't typical that emotional development gets arrested at the time of the abuse - kind of like some girls who retain that little girl voice even well past that stage. Emotionally Tom seems immature. Fortunately he is not around to read this, so it really can't be considered bad taste. You guys may be being a little tough on Tom. There is an aspect of selfless service in these dump posts. He's trying to turn us on to a bigger, better yagya provider. It may be shit, but it's good shit. Oh please, I can't imagine anyone here trusting a thing Pall says. The guy, if anything, is an advertisement to stay away from yagyas. He wants something to make him feel better without having to go though the hard work of actually changing his own behavior. He thinks yagyas are a magic wand and one day he's going to wake up better. Forget it. You have to do the hard work. No one is going to do it for you. Selfless service? Oh I see, in between his racist rants we are supposed to see some selfless service poking through? I don't think so. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Hurricane press release
Title: Hurricane press release Did I see a TMO press release here the other day claiming that Katrina was Natures retribution for our failure to raze all cities and rebuild in accord with SV, and that other cities would soon be destroyed as well? Or was that a spoof someone wrote? Or was I dreaming? I just caught a glimpse of it quoted in someones response, then I deleted it, then I began to wonder if that was for real? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fed response to Katrina faster than after Andrew and...
In a message dated 9/12/05 1:31:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this is horrible news to you because you hate Republicans and all... What's wrong with hating Republicans? I have to agree here. There is nothing wrong with hating republicans. In fact I think more democrats and liberals should become absorbed in their hatred for Bush and republicans and show it with all of their might. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya has to go...
In a message dated 9/14/05 7:27:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now *that's* hilarious!!! A couple of things occurred to me when I saw it- 1) I hope he wasn't ineptly flirting with C'leeza, like Prince Charles did with Camilla, telling her he wanted to be her tampax!? (...eeeww), and 2) He has really slipped in the public mind for this picture to be taken, and then published. I heard from a later report that the photographer admitted he doctored the photo. He could not read what it said so he toyed with ideas and filled it in. But another interesting note here is that W is left handed, and the photo shows a right hand. Now could you imagine what could happen if a photographer had filled in on blank paper "North Korea has had it's last chance. We begin bombing in two weeks", and the press ran with the story? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Kirkwood community college cedar rapids iowa Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Love Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this on another forum, billed as an extract from the latest Mills and Boon novel. Mills and Boon seems to be a Web seller of romantic fiction that also publishes whole novels for free online. If this is any indication of what they are like, I'm going to have to start reading them. - Unc ---snipping purient content- So you're 'baa'sically saying that it's a well written love story? Either that or I was just mutton you on... I'll have to run that by Dr.Pete ;-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Full Moon
In Vedic astrology (Jyotish) this Full Moon is called Kumbha-Purnima, and it is the midpoint of the year in the Lunar calendar. Vedic astrology is very deep, and many thousands of years ago, accurately predicted present-day events, including political corruption, environmental degradation, and the extraordinary worldwide transformations we are going through today. Within the historical cycles (Satya-yuga, Dvarapa-yuga, Treta-yuga and Kali-yuga) there are sub-cycles of similar nature. The first sub-cycle of any yuga is the same as the yuga itself. So the first sub-cycle of Kali-yuga is Kali. Now that 5,000 years of Kali-yuga have passed, we are entering the next sub-cycle, Satya. So spiritual things will be emphasized. But first we have to pass through the sandhya, or transition phase, which inevitably requires the dissolution of the social structures and practices of the previous period. This is called pralaya, or devastation. This knowledge is contained in the Vedic scripture Brahma-vidya. So we have known this was coming for quite some time now... The Esoteric Teaching is the most ancient original source material on Yoga and Meditation in the world. For many years, the actual history and methods of Yoga, Meditation and Tantra have been hidden behind a smokescreen of disinformation and deception deliberately created to confuse and defeat anyone who tried to research these esoteric subjects. As a result, Yoga teachings and practices in the West, and even in India, have become completely distorted from the original. The Brotherhood of the Esoteric Teaching is a secret resistance movement against the worldwide conspiracy to pollute and disempower the sacred truths of the Vedas. Finally, the time has come to release these confidential truths and expose the sinister movement that keeps them from benefiting the whole world with peace, prosperity and enlightenment. The Introductory Seminar, The Hidden History of Yoga and Tantra, tells the complete story and introduces you directly to the original source materials of Yoga, Meditation and Tantra. No other school or teaching of Yoga does this. Why not? To get access to the preliminary video series of the Seminar, visit the site and join our online discussion group. http://www.esotericteaching.org om namo bhagavate vasudevaya David Bruce Hughes Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice -- They knew all about me and my life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bostonbob53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh please, I can't imagine anyone here trusting a thing Pall says. The guy, if anything, is an advertisement to stay away from yagyas. He wants something to make him feel better without having to go though the hard work of actually changing his own behavior. He thinks yagyas are a magic wand and one day he's going to wake up better. Forget it. You have to do the hard work. No one is going to do it for you. I agree with you completely. In my case, I recognized I had issues, (don't really know anyone who doesn't), and I was determined to make progress on them. Meditation offered a respite from the daily battle. Never for a moment did I believe that the solution lied outside myself. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you repeat the question in more detail. I have the answer. What is it that's uncertain in Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? Before you do the experiment, the position, direction, and spin of the particle cannot be known because it is only when the observer observes the atom that it has the characteristics you observe. In other words, it really was not a particle until it is concretized by an observation, and the observer had a part in it's state/creation. It was really just a potential in the field, and it had infinite possible trajecteries and spin, but it cannot be known ahead of time which it would take. It is uncertain. Only after observation can one see which trajectory it took. It could take any. Even after it is observed, one cannot really say it is a concrete item. It is really a wave with no real boundaries within the quantum ocean that it arises from. Therefore, the characteristics of the universe are dependent on the characteristics of the observer, (as Maharishi has stated). Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Good question. There is no such thing as simultaneous observation though. It is similar to that space problem posed that if you always travel just half the remaining distance to an object, you will never reach the object. Same thing: No matter how closely two observers attempt to observe an object at the same time, they will never observe it at exactly the same time, and hence will always see the characteristics of the object differently. If you watch your own reality carefully, you will see through direct observation that what appears to be a seamless series of events witnessed by you, forming a unified vision of the world, is, in fact, a series of rapidly changing snapshots of the world, interspersed by an equal number of direct observations of infinity, of infinite potential. I am not speaking of theory here, but of direct observation. So there is too much infinity, or infinite interference if you will, for two observers to observe something at exactly the same time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurricane press release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I see a TMO press release here the other day claiming that Katrina was Nature¹s retribution for our failure to raze all cities and rebuild in accord with SV, and that other cities would soon be destroyed as well? Or was that a spoof someone wrote? Or was I dreaming? I just caught a glimpse of it quoted in someone¹s response, then I deleted it, then I began to wonder if that was for real? ** What is President Bush's position on Roe vs. Wade? He doesn't care how people get out of New Orleans. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya has to go...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/14/05 7:27:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now *that's* hilarious!!! A couple of things occurred to me when I saw it- 1) I hope he wasn't ineptly flirting with C'leeza, like Prince Charles did with Camilla, telling her he wanted to be her tampax!? (...eeeww), and 2) He has really slipped in the public mind for this picture to be taken, and then published. I heard from a later report that the photographer admitted he doctored the photo. He could not read what it said so he toyed with ideas and filled it in. But another interesting note here is that W is left handed, and the photo shows a right hand. Now could you imagine what could happen if a photographer had filled in on blank paper North Korea has had it's last chance. We begin bombing in two weeks, and the press ran with the story? So, I assume the picture was accurate, and you assume it wasn't. I don't know what was accurate anymore in this case, and I lay a lot of that responsibility on Bush's cadre, for continually spinning 'the news' as it relates to them. (Now, when it may have spun the other way, it is a big deal?) For example, I heard on CNN last night that during Bush's '$$$' speech in New Orleans, showing a backdrop of lights on, that the streetlights in the French Quarter came on 30 minutes before his motorcade arrived, and oops! went out 30 minutes after he left. So one thing we can agree on is it is irresponsible at best and dangerous at worst to continually distort reality for your own ends. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice -- They knew all about me and my life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bostonbob53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, if you aren't reading anything on this newsgroup, then why are you posting on it? Doesn't that strike you as a tad strange? Perhaps as strange as me posting this for you? Kind of like running into your neighbors yard, pulling your pants down, taking a dump, and then runnning back in your yard before anyone can confront you about it. My thumbnail analysis - Someone said Tom suffered abuse as a child. Isn't typical that emotional development gets arrested at the time of the abuse - kind of like some girls who retain that little girl voice even well past that stage. Emotionally Tom seems immature. Fortunately he is not around to read this, so it really can't be considered bad taste. You guys may be being a little tough on Tom. There is an aspect of selfless service in these dump posts. He's trying to turn us on to a bigger, better yagya provider. It may be shit, but it's good shit. Oh please, I can't imagine anyone here trusting a thing Pall says. The guy, if anything, is an advertisement to stay away from yagyas. He wants something to make him feel better without having to go though the hard work of actually changing his own behavior. He thinks yagyas are a magic wand and one day he's going to wake up better. Forget it. You have to do the hard work. No one is going to do it for you. Selfless service? Oh I see, in between his racist rants we are supposed to see some selfless service poking through? I don't think so. Uh...I know that I left off the emoticons and all, but my comment was supposed to be lighthearted, a joke, a riff on the olde Cheech and Chong definition of good shit. That said, I honestly think there is some truth to it. As bent as Tom can be in some ways, another part of him, the lesha vidya teacher left in us all, is still trying to share something he's found valuable. Me, I think yagyas are pretty much as you described them above. But that's just us. Some people believe in them thoroughly. I think that seeing what they can do for as hard a nut to crack as Tom is worth watching. And reading. I hope he continues to post his updates. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurricane press release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I see a TMO press release here the other day claiming that Katrina was Nature¹s retribution for our failure to raze all cities and rebuild in accord with SV, and that other cities would soon be destroyed as well? Or was that a spoof someone wrote? Or was I dreaming? Yes. I just caught a glimpse of it quoted in someone¹s response, then I deleted it, then I began to wonder if that was for real? You are making progress, Grasshopper. But I think that the segment quoted here recently was from my parody of a TMO press release, not the real thing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you repeat the question in more detail. I have the answer. What is it that's uncertain in Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? Before you do the experiment, the position, direction, and spin of the particle cannot be known because it is only when the observer observes the atom that it has the characteristics you observe. In other words, it really was not a particle until it is concretized by an observation, and the observer had a part in it's state/creation. It was really just a potential in the field, and it had infinite possible trajecteries and spin, but it cannot be known ahead of time which it would take. It is uncertain. Only after observation can one see which trajectory it took. It could take any. Even after it is observed, one cannot really say it is a concrete item. It is really a wave with no real boundaries within the quantum ocean that it arises from. Therefore, the characteristics of the universe are dependent on the characteristics of the observer, (as Maharishi has stated). Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Technically speaking there is no such thing as 2 observers in an experiment. There is an experiment and an observed outcome. In addition, the speed at which observation occurs, I doubt two observers could observe the same thing at the same time. In an experimental situation, the outcome is measured. Once measured, that is it's state. The same is true of two observers. Consciousness is not limited to one brain. Once an observation is made in infinitesimally small time, then that is it's state. No 2 observers can observe the same manifestation simultaneously. The particle takes its cue from that which observes it, and the almost infinite speed and almost infinitely small dimensions incrementally unfolded over space , at which observation occurs, cannot allow for two observers . Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you repeat the question in more detail. I have the answer. What is it that's uncertain in Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? Before you do the experiment, the position, direction, and spin of the particle cannot be known because it is only when the observer observes the atom that it has the characteristics you observe. In other words, it really was not a particle until it is concretized by an observation, and the observer had a part in it's state/creation. It was really just a potential in the field, and it had infinite possible trajecteries and spin, but it cannot be known ahead of time which it would take. It is uncertain. Only after observation can one see which trajectory it took. It could take any. Even after it is observed, one cannot really say it is a concrete item. It is really a wave with no real boundaries within the quantum ocean that it arises from. Therefore, the characteristics of the universe are dependent on the characteristics of the observer, (as Maharishi has stated). Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Technically speaking there is no such thing as 2 observers in an experiment. There is an experiment and an observed outcome. In addition, the speed at which observation occurs, I doubt two observers could observe the same thing at the same time. In an experimental situation, the outcome is measured. Once measured, that is it's state. The same is true of two observers. Consciousness is not limited to one brain. Once an observation is made in infinitesimally small time, then that is it's state. No 2 observers can observe the same manifestation simultaneously. The particle takes its cue from that which observes it, and the almost infinite speed and almost infinitely small dimensions incrementally unfolded over space , at which observation occurs, cannot allow for two observers . OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Good question. There is no such thing as simultaneous observation though. It is similar to that space problem posed that if you always travel just half the remaining distance to an object, you will never reach the object. Antelope Freeway, one-sixty-four mile. Anyone get that? :-) Same thing: No matter how closely two observers attempt to observe an object at the same time, they will never observe it at exactly the same time, and hence will always see the characteristics of the object differently. Ah, but what is the same time? What, for that matter, is time? Quantum mechanically speaking, that is. If you watch your own reality carefully, you will see through direct observation that what appears to be a seamless series of events witnessed by you, forming a unified vision of the world, is, in fact, a series of rapidly changing snapshots of the world, interspersed by an equal number of direct observations of infinity, of infinite potential. Exactly why I love film and am writing a book about film and its relationship to the spiritual quest. I am not speaking of theory here, but of direct observation. So there is too much infinity, or infinite interference if you will, for two observers to observe something at exactly the same time. Thanks for your answers. Really. I bailed from the TM movement before I could catch too much of the quantum mechanics is to TM as... stuff. But I do love hearing this stuff when it's expressed as eloquently as you do it. I guess what I was wondering about was whether quantum mechanics has dealt with what the Buddhists would call interdependent origination. That is, millions of observers perceiving the same potential at once, and the potential having to react to being pulled in millions of directions at once. Is there one composite movie, or many? Unc, watching The Purple Rose of Cairo. Perhaps those of you who know the movie can tell. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you repeat the question in more detail. I have the answer. What is it that's uncertain in Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? Before you do the experiment, the position, direction, and spin of the particle cannot be known because it is only when the observer observes the atom that it has the characteristics you observe. In other words, it really was not a particle until it is concretized by an observation, and the observer had a part in it's state/creation. It was really just a potential in the field, and it had infinite possible trajecteries and spin, but it cannot be known ahead of time which it would take. It is uncertain. Only after observation can one see which trajectory it took. It could take any. Even after it is observed, one cannot really say it is a concrete item. It is really a wave with no real boundaries within the quantum ocean that it arises from. Therefore, the characteristics of the universe are dependent on the characteristics of the observer, (as Maharishi has stated). Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Good question. There is no such thing as simultaneous observation though. It is similar to that space problem posed that if you always travel just half the remaining distance to an object, you will never reach the object. Same thing: No matter how closely two observers attempt to observe an object at the same time, they will never observe it at exactly the same time, and hence will always see the characteristics of the object differently. If you watch your own reality carefully, you will see through direct observation that what appears to be a seamless series of events witnessed by you, forming a unified vision of the world, is, in fact, a series of rapidly changing snapshots of the world, interspersed by an equal number of direct observations of infinity, of infinite potential. I am not speaking of theory here, but of direct observation. So there is too much infinity, or infinite interference if you will, for two observers to observe something at exactly the same time. Yep, Jim hit the nail on the head here. Good explanation. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurricane press release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I see a TMO press release here the other day claiming that Katrina was Nature¹s retribution for our failure to raze all cities and rebuild in accord with SV, and that other cities would soon be destroyed as well? Or was that a spoof someone wrote? Or was I dreaming? Yes. I just caught a glimpse of it quoted in someone¹s response, then I deleted it, then I began to wonder if that was for real? You are making progress, Grasshopper. But I think that the segment quoted here recently was from my parody of a TMO press release, not the real thing. Kinda creepy that several folks saw it as legit...Though you are a good writer. This just reminded me of a dream I had last night. Maharishi was in it, and publicaly he was just acting crazy, making loony pronouncements and signing off on the most rediculous plans. Privately he was laughing uproariously, enjoying himself thoroughly. Don't know what that meant, if anything, though this reminded me of the dream. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurricane press release
on 9/17/05 2:14 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinda creepy that several folks saw it as legit...Though you are a good writer. This just reminded me of a dream I had last night. Maharishi was in it, and publicaly he was just acting crazy, making loony pronouncements and signing off on the most rediculous plans. Privately he was laughing uproariously, enjoying himself thoroughly. Don't know what that meant, if anything, though this reminded me of the dream. Don't forget Jennifer's comment that when she was alone with Maharishi, he sometimes used to deride the westerners as gullible fools for believing all the things he was telling them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Funniest religious joke
From the Toronto Star: Ship of Fools, the online Christian humour mag, has finally wrapped up The Laugh Judgment, a competition to find the funniest and most offensive religious jokes. While we won't risk unemployment by repeating the worst offender, we invite you to visit http:/www.shipoffools.com and read it for yourself. Here is what readers voted the funniest joke of the bunch: I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. I ran over and said: Stop. Don't do it. Why shouldn't I? he asked. Well, there's so much to live for! Like what? Are you religious? He said, Yes. I said, Me, too. Are you Christian or Buddhist? Christian. Me, too. Are you Catholic or Protestant? Protestant. Me, too. Are you Episcopalian or Baptist? Baptist. Wow. Me, too. Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord? Baptist Church of God. Me, too. Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God? Reformed Baptist Church of God. Me, too. Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915? He said: Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915. I said: Die, heretic scum, and pushed him off. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Good question. There is no such thing as simultaneous observation though. It is similar to that space problem posed that if you always travel just half the remaining distance to an object, you will never reach the object. Antelope Freeway, one-sixty-four mile. Anyone get that? :-) Firesign Theatre; Love those guys! We're all bozos on this bus. Ah, but what is the same time? What, for that matter, is time? Quantum mechanically speaking, that is. In my experience, time is memory. So the independent observer is a fiction created by ourselves to independently 'create' time for ourselves, through our memory. If two observers maintain the fiction of being separate from each other, they will never observe the same thing. On the other hand, two observers can observe something at the same time if each is aware of the other as themselves; wholeness recognizing itself. Then there is only one time, one memory, and one observation. The linkage or 'glue' occurs through the simultaneous recognition of infinite Reality within both observers. ... Great rap! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antelope Freeway, one-sixty-four mile. Anyone get that? :-) Firesign Theatre; Love those guys! We're all bozos on this bus. Those guys were the original Secret Buddhists. I remember when their album 'Everything You Know Is Wrong' came out, I just loved the title, and took it as kind of an early walking mantra. Shows how 'brilliant' I was in those da(ze)... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Monsoons Mad Cows
Letter from Rod Richards on Purusha in Uttar Kashi: Dear Ken, A couple guys from here who were on LOA at just the right time returned from the Guru Purnimah celebration and told us that it was really extraordinary and sublime. We got bits and pieces of it on our satellite dish here, but missed a lot due to awkward transmission timings for India. It seemed to be the high point in our long tradition of wonderful meetings and celebrations spent with Maharishi over the years. A huge wave of expansion for the Movement, as Maharishi put it. Maharishi invited the NC Purusha group to stay on in a new facility hopefully being built nearby him. It seems they will permanently relocate there if the building goes as planned, so that may be a big change for them. If the building permission does not come in a timely way, then they are up in the air again at the SCA. So far, no one seems to know of anything definite coming up in Europe, but we'll see what happens in these next few months. Building on the Vlodrop site itself- while it remains a possibility- may take a long time to get approved. All the Europeans here say that the local building permits approvals, especially on the German side of the border, can be very difficult and time consuming to come by. I hope it happens soon. As for us, we never go out of the ashram here except for medical or visa necessities. It seems that those of us in India (now about 105) are on the more inward and reclusive programme and will probably stay put here for some time to come. Or Maharishi could change it all around; he is restructuring everything these days. He has wanted to gather all the Purusha together near him for a long time though and so it may be that we might go to Europe sooner or later- at least for a short visit. Last week I was assaulted not once, but three times by sinister forces. The first attack was by a scorpion that walked across my foam to get me when I was in morning mediation. I looked up in time and gave him a dirty look and he crawled away to the fellow sitting beside me on the next foam in the meditation hall. He also tried to maintain equanimity, but quickly gave up after a couple of tense minutes and got the bug capture jar that we keep around for just such emergencies and escorted the scorpion outdoors. Then half an hour later an earth quake hit. We don't get many quakes here, and they are usually just a kind of quick jolt and that's it. But this one was a 3-4 second continuing shake that rattled the entire building, the biggest we've head since I've been here. Really big ones that do major damage hit the Himalayas once in about 10 years they say. If this were not enough for one day, a final assault was from a bull. The trails leading up to the ashram and villages in the mountains above us are very narrow and when you encounter someone going in the other direction from you, someone usually has to step aside close against the face of the mountain to let the other pass. That is especially true of a donkey laden with cargo, or any unknown cows or bulls. The general rule of the road is to yield the path to anything that is bigger or has more legs than you do. This is doubly the case if they also have horns. So I was walking down the path after lunch to our stream when I saw two chestnut coloured Brahma bulls that live someplace around here. They are brothers, very big, and not very well behaved. Cows and bulls up here usually stay in groups -or at least in a pair- to protect themselves against leopard attacks. So I got against the mountain side of the trail as far as I could and waited for them to pass me by on the downhill side. But it was not enough to satisfy them. They wouldn't pass with me so close. Cows that have been treated well at home will usually just give you a cursory look, and then just walk on by you. But here the trail was too narrow. Time was getting on so I decided to try to go around the bulls. I figured that these two had been around the ashram area long enough to know us strange westerners in white dhotis, so I thought they might let me by. Wrong. I held out my hand to the lead bull for him to sniff, as you do when meeting a new horse for the first time, and then I started to go by him. As I got past his shoulder, he suddenly swung his head around and knocked me completely off the trail with a hook of one horn. I slid down a steep rocky bank about 12 feet but somehow managed to stay more or less upright. It was not that this was completely unexpected. I spent a lot of time on a farm as a boy growing up in Virginia and have been around bulls before and know that they are immensely strong - and unpredictable. My dhoti got some new holes in it and my legs some good bruises and scratches, but all in all I was quite lucky. On most other parts of the trail it would have been a much longer and more dangerous fall..like all the way down the mountain for a final Vedic immersion in
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Love Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this on another forum, billed as an extract from the latest Mills and Boon novel. Mills and Boon seems to be a Web seller of romantic fiction that also publishes whole novels for free online. If this is any indication of what they are like, I'm going to have to start reading them. - Unc ---snipping purient content- So you're 'baa'sically saying that it's a well written love story? Unc's been hitting the ole secret sauce lately... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you repeat the question in more detail. I have the answer. What is it that's uncertain in Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? Before you do the experiment, the position, direction, and spin of the particle cannot be known because it is only when the observer observes the atom that it has the characteristics you observe. In other words, it really was not a particle until it is concretized by an observation, and the observer had a part in it's state/creation. It was really just a potential in the field, and it had infinite possible trajecteries and spin, but it cannot be known ahead of time which it would take. It is uncertain. Only after observation can one see which trajectory it took. It could take any. Even after it is observed, one cannot really say it is a concrete item. It is really a wave with no real boundaries within the quantum ocean that it arises from. Therefore, the characteristics of the universe are dependent on the characteristics of the observer, (as Maharishi has stated). Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Simultaenaity is impossible. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Funniest religious joke
My favorite from this site: St. Peter decides to take the day off to go fishing, so Jesus offers to keep an eye on the Pearly Gates. He is not sure what to do, so Peter tells him to find out a bit about people as they arrive in Heaven, and this will help him decide if he can let them in. After a while, Jesus sees a little old man with white hair approaching who looks very, very familiar. He asks the old man to tell him about himself. The old man says, I had a very sad life. I was a carpenter and had a son who I lost at a relatively young age, and although he was not my natural child, I loved him dearly. Jesus wells up with emotion. He throws his arms around the old man and cries, Daddy! The old man replies, Pinocchio? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Funniest religious joke
That's an Emo Phillips joke. He's a very funny guy: http://www.emophillips.com/ on 9/17/05 2:49 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Toronto Star: Ship of Fools, the online Christian humour mag, has finally wrapped up The Laugh Judgment, a competition to find the funniest and most offensive religious jokes. While we won't risk unemployment by repeating the worst offender, we invite you to visit http:/www.shipoffools.com and read it for yourself. Here is what readers voted the funniest joke of the bunch: I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. I ran over and said: Stop. Don't do it. Why shouldn't I? he asked. Well, there's so much to live for! Like what? Are you religious? He said, Yes. I said, Me, too. Are you Christian or Buddhist? Christian. Me, too. Are you Catholic or Protestant? Protestant. Me, too. Are you Episcopalian or Baptist? Baptist. Wow. Me, too. Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord? Baptist Church of God. Me, too. Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God? Reformed Baptist Church of God. Me, too. Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915? He said: Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915. I said: Die, heretic scum, and pushed him off. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 815-572-5842 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antelope Freeway, one-sixty-four mile. Anyone get that? :-) Firesign Theatre; Love those guys! We're all bozos on this bus. Those guys were the original Secret Buddhists. I remember when their album 'Everything You Know Is Wrong' came out, I just loved the title, and took it as kind of an early walking mantra. Shows how 'brilliant' I was in those da(ze)... Back in the late Sixties, they used to do this stuff LIVE on radio station KPFK in Los Angeles. The Wizard of Oz show. It was then -- and probably is to this day -- the hippest thing ever on radio. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Good question. There is no such thing as simultaneous observation though. It is similar to that space problem posed that if you always travel just half the remaining distance to an object, you will never reach the object. Antelope Freeway, one-sixty-four mile. Anyone get that? :-) Same thing: No matter how closely two observers attempt to observe an object at the same time, they will never observe it at exactly the same time, and hence will always see the characteristics of the object differently. Ah, but what is the same time? What, for that matter, is time? Quantum mechanically speaking, that is. If you watch your own reality carefully, you will see through direct observation that what appears to be a seamless series of events witnessed by you, forming a unified vision of the world, is, in fact, a series of rapidly changing snapshots of the world, interspersed by an equal number of direct observations of infinity, of infinite potential. Exactly why I love film and am writing a book about film and its relationship to the spiritual quest. I am not speaking of theory here, but of direct observation. So there is too much infinity, or infinite interference if you will, for two observers to observe something at exactly the same time. Thanks for your answers. Really. I bailed from the TM movement before I could catch too much of the quantum mechanics is to TM as... stuff. But I do love hearing this stuff when it's expressed as eloquently as you do it. I guess what I was wondering about was whether quantum mechanics has dealt with what the Buddhists would call interdependent origination. That is, millions of observers perceiving the same potential at once, and the potential having to react to being pulled in millions of directions at once. Is there one composite movie, or many? It's many movies, but each are dependent on the observers who got their information before they did. for each observer, the movie is unique, but each individual frame's content is based partly on what others have seen. Unc, watching The Purple Rose of Cairo. Perhaps those of you who know the movie can tell. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Simultaenaity is impossible. Science has a lot to learn. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Funniest religious joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My favorite from this site: St. Peter decides to take the day off to go fishing, so Jesus offers to keep an eye on the Pearly Gates. He is not sure what to do, so Peter tells him to find out a bit about people as they arrive in Heaven, and this will help him decide if he can let them in. After a while, Jesus sees a little old man with white hair approaching who looks very, very familiar. He asks the old man to tell him about himself. The old man says, I had a very sad life. I was a carpenter and had a son who I lost at a relatively young age, and although he was not my natural child, I loved him dearly. Jesus wells up with emotion. He throws his arms around the old man and cries, Daddy! The old man replies, Pinocchio? Yes, yes! One of my all time favorites-- I've told it many many tmes! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Funniest religious joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My favorite from this site: St. Peter decides to take the day off to go fishing, so Jesus offers to keep an eye on the Pearly Gates. He is not sure what to do, so Peter tells him to find out a bit about people as they arrive in Heaven, and this will help him decide if he can let them in. After a while, Jesus sees a little old man with white hair approaching who looks very, very familiar. He asks the old man to tell him about himself. The old man says, I had a very sad life. I was a carpenter and had a son who I lost at a relatively young age, and although he was not my natural child, I loved him dearly. Jesus wells up with emotion. He throws his arms around the old man and cries, Daddy! The old man replies, Pinocchio? I told that one to a friend at the Diocese of Tucson. He passed it on to the Bishop who apparently almost fell out of his chair. I heard it as Pappa, not Daddy, by the way. More in keeping with both traditions. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HUP?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done. Just as a question, what does this principle have to say about multiple observers? What does the potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by two different observers? Are there two waves, one for each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com- posite wave, generated by the combined influence of the two observers? Simultaenaity is impossible. Science has a lot to learn. Says someone whose ability to discern time is in slices measured in large fractions of a second... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Funniest religious joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I heard it as Pappa, not Daddy, by the way. More in keeping with both traditions. Maybe, but it doesn't have the same emotive quality as Daddy, at least not in print. The joke is probably even funnier orally, because you can do the tone of voice and facial expressions. Pappa works better orally too. Consider the alliteration combined with Eastern European accent in the reply... Pappa? Pinochio?? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Funniest religious joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I heard it as Pappa, not Daddy, by the way. More in keeping with both traditions. Maybe, but it doesn't have the same emotive quality as Daddy, at least not in print. The joke is probably even funnier orally, because you can do the tone of voice and facial expressions. Pappa works better orally too. Consider the alliteration combined with Eastern European accent in the reply... Er, wouldn't that be Italian? Pappa? Pinochio?? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Funniest religious joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I heard it as Pappa, not Daddy, by the way. More in keeping with both traditions. Maybe, but it doesn't have the same emotive quality as Daddy, at least not in print. The joke is probably even funnier orally, because you can do the tone of voice and facial expressions. Pappa works better orally too. Consider the alliteration combined with Eastern European accent in the reply... Er, wouldn't that be Italian? Pappa? Pinochio?? True, but works regardless. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Karma
Fiction: http://www.snopes.com/crime/clever/cigarson.asp on 9/17/05 2:47 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reposted as I found it, with no intervening trip to snopes.com to find out if it's true or not. Seems to me it's a pretty cool story whether it's fact or fiction... A Charlotte, NC lawyer purchased a box of very rare and expensive cigars, then insured them against fire, among other things. Within a month, having smoked his entire stockpile of these great cigars and without yet having made even his first premium payment on the policy, the lawyer filed claim against the insurance company. In his claim, the lawyer stated the cigars were lost in a series of small fires. The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious reason that the man had consumed the cigars in the normal fashion. The lawyer sued... and WON! (Stay with me.) In delivering the ruling, the judge agreed with the insurance company that the claim was frivolous. The judge stated nevertheless, that the lawyer held a policy from the company in which it had warranted that the cigars were insurable and also guaranteed that it would insure them against fire, without defining what is considered to be unacceptable fire and was obligated to pay the claim. Rather than endure a lengthy and costly appeal process, the insurance company accepted the ruling and paid $15,000 to the lawyer for his loss of the rare cigars lost in the fires. NOW FOR THE BEST PART ... After the lawyer cashed the check, the insurance company had him arrested on 24 counts of ARSON!!! With his own insurance claim and testimony from the previous case being used against him, the lawyer was convicted of intentionally burning his insured property and was sentenced to 24 months in jail and a $24,000 fine. This is a true story and was the First Place winner in the recent Criminal Lawyers Award Contest. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 815-572-5842 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Karma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fiction: http://www.snopes.com/crime/clever/cigarson.asp Nitpicker! on 9/17/05 2:47 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reposted as I found it, with no intervening trip to snopes.com to find out if it's true or not. Seems to me it's a pretty cool story whether it's fact or fiction... A Charlotte, NC lawyer purchased a box of very rare and expensive cigars, then insured them against fire, among other things. Within a month, having smoked his entire stockpile of these great cigars and without yet having made even his first premium payment on the policy, the lawyer filed claim against the insurance company. In his claim, the lawyer stated the cigars were lost in a series of small fires. The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious reason that the man had consumed the cigars in the normal fashion. The lawyer sued... and WON! (Stay with me.) In delivering the ruling, the judge agreed with the insurance company that the claim was frivolous. The judge stated nevertheless, that the lawyer held a policy from the company in which it had warranted that the cigars were insurable and also guaranteed that it would insure them against fire, without defining what is considered to be unacceptable fire and was obligated to pay the claim. Rather than endure a lengthy and costly appeal process, the insurance company accepted the ruling and paid $15,000 to the lawyer for his loss of the rare cigars lost in the fires. NOW FOR THE BEST PART ... After the lawyer cashed the check, the insurance company had him arrested on 24 counts of ARSON!!! With his own insurance claim and testimony from the previous case being used against him, the lawyer was convicted of intentionally burning his insured property and was sentenced to 24 months in jail and a $24,000 fine. This is a true story and was the First Place winner in the recent Criminal Lawyers Award Contest. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 815-572-5842 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurricane press release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/17/05 2:14 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinda creepy that several folks saw it as legit...Though you are a good writer. This just reminded me of a dream I had last night. Maharishi was in it, and publicaly he was just acting crazy, making loony pronouncements and signing off on the most rediculous plans. Privately he was laughing uproariously, enjoying himself thoroughly. Don't know what that meant, if anything, though this reminded me of the dream. Don't forget Jennifer's comment that when she was alone with Maharishi, he sometimes used to deride the westerners as gullible fools for believing all the things he was telling them. Or perhaps that is what she heard, but not what he said... or perhaps that is what he really said and that is what she really heard Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Avon Park Closing
-- Original Message -- Received: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:14:55 AM PDT From: Maharishi Vedic School [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Avon Park Closing Dear Governors, Sidhas, and Meditators: After many years of service to the Florida community and those coming from many other areas of the country, the Maharishi Vedic School at Avon Park is ceasing operations. The facility has been sold and no further courses will be offered, as we are starting to make preparations to move out. We are also at the early stages of planning a new facility at a different location, built in proper Vastu, acccording to the principles of Sthapatya Veda. We want to send a heartfelt Thank You to those of you who throughout the years have been attending the many courses and activities offered at the School, and those of you who have supported this Maharishi facility through hard work, dedication, and financial contributions. We remind those fortunate ones of the old saying As you sow, so shall you reap. As you may imagine, the coming weeks will be very busy for us at Avon Park. There are two areas of activity uppermost in our minds: moving trucks and storage facilities. If any of you can offer any assitance in those areas, we will be very grateful. We would like to ask those who have sponsored rooms, to make arrangements to retrieve the furniture in your rooms. Ideally this would have to be accomplished by September 30. Please let us know if you are coming, or if you would like us to dispose of the furniture. We anticipate that some items will be placed in refrigerated storage, some may be transferred to other movement facilities, and some will be donated to needy individuals or charitable institutions. Again, thank you very much for your attendance and dedication to create coherence for yourselves and the State of Florida. Although we don't have objective measures, we are sure that this facility has made an important difference in the life of all the residents of the State. We will keep in touch, and expect to see many of you at our new facility, whenever that manifests. Jai Guru Dev Simon and Claudia Rodriguez Directors Maharishi Vedic School Avon Park, Florida (863) 452-5111 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Avon Park Closing
The thing to watch here will be whether the Movement uses the money from the sale of the old facility to buy the new one, or whether that money disappears and local meditators are expected to start from scratch in financing the new one. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Funniest religious joke
The Minister then dunks the fellow under the water and pulls him right back up. Have you found Jesus? the Minister asked. No, I didn't! said the drunk. The Minister then dunks him under for a quite a bit longer, brings him up and says, Now brother, have you found Jesus? No, I did not! said the drunk again. Disgusted, the Minister holds the man under for at least thirty seconds this time, brings him up and demands, For the grace of God, have you found Jesus yet??!! The old drunk wipes his eyes and pleads No...are you sure this where he fell in? --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Toronto Star: Ship of Fools, the online Christian humour mag, has finally wrapped up The Laugh Judgment, a competition to find the funniest and most offensive religious jokes. While we won't risk unemployment by repeating the worst offender, we invite you to visit http:/www.shipoffools.com and read it for yourself. Here is what readers voted the funniest joke of the bunch: I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. I ran over and said: Stop. Don't do it. Why shouldn't I? he asked. Well, there's so much to live for! Like what? Are you religious? He said, Yes. I said, Me, too. Are you Christian or Buddhist? Christian. Me, too. Are you Catholic or Protestant? Protestant. Me, too. Are you Episcopalian or Baptist? Baptist. Wow. Me, too. Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord? Baptist Church of God. Me, too. Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God? Reformed Baptist Church of God. Me, too. Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915? He said: Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915. I said: Die, heretic scum, and pushed him off. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free software that has at least its name firmly in hand...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/ VERY VERY kewl! Thanks! Petra's passport photo: http://butthead.natel.net/misc/rasterbation.jpg Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Krishna Das
Someone posted this to the Amma chat. Very nice: I've read today some beautiful words of Krishna Das, writing about his experiences with his guru, Neem Karoli Baba, and I hope no one minds if I share them here, because there is something universal in them about the guru's grace that I feel we can all appreciate: He didn't teach, he didn't tell people what to do, in the sense of spiritual practices. I was doing a lot of stuff when I went to India. I thought I was a good yogi, and I was meditating. All I can tell you is, when I got there and took one look at him, I couldn't even remember my name. You know? I never sat again. I never did another asana (yoga posture). All that stuff fell away because I was seeing Love. I was in the presence of Love that I'd never imagined I could feel. I knew that what I was feeling was special. That it was a gift, that it was Grace. I knew that nothing I could ever do could earn that Love, or could win that Love, or create that Love. It was so transcendent because it was so intimate. Everybody there felt the same way. Every single devotee of Maharaj-ji had their own relationship with him, completely their own relationship. They had their Maharaj-ji. My Maharaj-ji is what I'm talking about, but somebody else will tell you a whole other story. But it will always come back to this Love and sweetness. He didn't want anything; he wasn't selling anything. If you want to come, you come; if you want to go, you go; you want to come back, you come back. He wasn't doing business. You couldn't buy his attention either, if he didn't want anything. It was only when you were real, when you were in touch with that longing, that you could really connect with him. That was the way he taught. You know, half the time we were with him it was heaven on earth, but the other time we were ready to jump in the river behind the temple, and it was only three inches deep. If he didn't look at you for a couple of days, forget it. Hara-kiri, where's my sword? If he didn't throw a banana to you-because people were always bringing fruit and fruit was always flying in all directions-if you didn't get your banana that day, you'd start to shake. You twitch, you know? I remember the first time I went to the temple by myself without anybody else, Maharaj-ji was sitting out on the cot and I was sitting on the other side of the courtyard all by myself because Ram Dass always kept a distance, he didn't want to crowd Maharaj-ji. That was the way he thought about it. I'm looking around, it's just me and him, and I'm sitting across the courtyard. And I'm thinking, what's wrong with this picture? So I very tentatively got up, kind of pretended I wasn't really walking across the courtyard. I just sat down in front of him. He looked down at me. Tik. Okay. And then went on with whatever he was doing. And I went: all right, I made it, yeah! All right! Flexing my muscles, sitting up a little straighter. Right? And that was the beginning of developing my own relationship with Maharaj-ji, according to my own dim lights. Just whoever I was, that's what my relationship with him was. That's what it became. From that point on I became more close to him in my own heart, in my own mind. I allowed myself to love him in a simple, emotional way. I just let myself get into it because that's who I was, and he responded to that. He allowed me to be who I was in relation to him, and he just kept playing with me. It allowed me to feel close enough to him for that to happen. Something that was causing me to self-destruct was allowed to start to blossom, only to be uprooted by his Grace. You can see how he precipitated the whole thing; the teasing, freaking me out, making me nuts, making me paranoid, trying to get rid of me, send me back to America. Finally I just started to disintegrate and the thing came back from those old days. And then once it was up and running, he just pulled it out and threw it away. Pulled that weed out. This is how he taught. He didn't teach, he did. He does... A Guru will not rest until we know what he knows, or she knows, and until we become the same as they are: somebody who knows love and feels love for all beings. Sitting with him in the body was indescribably delicious. But I couldn't digest it and that was what I had to learn to do. We become free by interacting with beings who are already free. A true Guru knows himself to be no different than who we really are. By approaching him with love, we wind up being led deeper within our own hearts. I was able to sing because I knew that it wasn't me at all. It was okay for it to look like me. I saw the way people looked at me, but I knew they weren't seeing me at all. I was seeing who they thought I was, and I was able to give them what they really wanted, which was love. I didn't even have to give but the natural response was love. No matter which way they approached me, with which part of their body, whatever part of their mind-that was just the seduction.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Love Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this on another forum, billed as an extract from the latest Mills and Boon novel. Mills and Boon seems to be a Web seller of romantic fiction that also publishes whole novels for free online. If this is any indication of what they are like, I'm going to have to start reading them. - Unc ---snipping purient content- So you're 'baa'sically saying that it's a well written love story? Unc's been hitting the ole secret sauce lately... Nah, he's just trying to pull the wool over our eyes ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Avon Park Closing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing to watch here will be whether the Movement uses the money from the sale of the old facility to buy the new one, or whether that money disappears and local meditators are expected to start from scratch in financing the new one. If they need help with trucks and storage ...? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurricane press release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/17/05 2:14 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinda creepy that several folks saw it as legit...Though you are a good writer. This just reminded me of a dream I had last night. Maharishi was in it, and publicaly he was just acting crazy, making loony pronouncements and signing off on the most rediculous plans. Privately he was laughing uproariously, enjoying himself thoroughly. Don't know what that meant, if anything, though this reminded me of the dream. Don't forget Jennifer's comment that when she was alone with Maharishi, he sometimes used to deride the westerners as gullible fools for believing all the things he was telling them. Or perhaps that is what she heard, but not what he said... or perhaps that is what he really said and that is what she really heard Porhips. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Avon Park Closing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing to watch here will be whether the Movement uses the money from the sale of the old facility to buy the new one, or whether that money disappears and local meditators are expected to start from scratch in financing the new one. Who financed the Houston Peace Palace? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] For the record - messages appear in reverse chronlogical order
From: Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Silbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Don't miss this Tom! Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:24:42 -0500 Fuck off. So you sister likes big black dicks, eh? So that's the kind of white trash you are, that your not ashamed? - Original Message - From: Robert Silbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Don't miss this Tom! Oh you will. My sister is married to African American and I know the racism he experiences every day, both overt and hidden. If you choose to raise your bigoted voice in a public place, I fully intend to raise mine loud and clear. You can count on it. -Bob Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
