[FairfieldLife] Twilight Men
Passing along a movie tip from a friend: www.twilightmen.com TWILIGHT MEN His head told him they couldn't exist. His heart told him they did. At the beginning of the year 2000, a man decides to leave the modern city he knows for a remote part of the Himalayas he does not. He is going to find evidence of the supernatural powers of the Himalayan Masters. But when he meets Anah Baba, an ominous young sadhu, every step up the mountain takes him deeper into a bizarre world he never knew existed. More real than any fiction, more captivating than any documentary, Twilight Men marks the beginning of a new genre - the True Film. -- Richard Atkins Not for the faint hearted. -- Ben Aiden This film will change your life.-- Sarah Brunello I've been to the East many times, but I've never seen an India like this one. -- Pedro Madjor Who says there's nothing left to explore in this world. Twilight Men proves that the world is still full of mystery waiting to be revealed. -- Steve Caldwell Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Youcranian siddha?
http://www.richardsandrak.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: [TMTrue] Fwd: October 8 - Bring a Friend to Alarik's Lecture
Note: forwarded message attached. Bring a Friend to learn about TM National Expert, Dr. Alarik Arenander, to Speak in San Diego Saturday Morning, October 8 Hidden Secrets of Maharishi Ayur-Veda Brain Scientist Combines Latest Research with Worlds Oldest Medicine for Optimal Brain Health Maharishi Ayur-Veda Reveals Secrets on How to Nourish Your Brain One of Dr. Arenanders most popular and inspiring PowerPoint presentations. Dr. Alarik Arenander Director, Iowa's Brain Research Institute Former UCLA Brain Researcher Leading Expert for CDC in Complementary and Alternative Medicine. Saturday Morning, October 8th at 10:30 Doubletree Hotel 1915 El Camino Real Del Mar, California 92130 Fee: $25 Seniors: $15 Bring a Friend to Start TM !! This lecture is open to meditators and non-meditators alike. It is a perfect opportunity to introduce your non-meditating friends to the warmth and harmony of our TM family, while giving them a healthy regime to nourish their brain and enjoy successful aging. Audience Comments: Fabulous, ExcellentWonderful! Five star. A work of art 100% sparkling The room was vibrating. Good practical, informative, can pass on points to family What you put your attention on grows. The lecture will reveal the hidden secrets to: * Create and maintain mind/body health * Understand why Einstein was so smart * Memory and Consciousness * Prevent Age-Related Brain Disorders * Enjoy Successful Aging * Develop Total Brain Functioning--Enlightenment Information: 641-472-3443 or 641-472-0955 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] START PREVENTION EARLY: Did you know that brain disorder associated with Alzheimer's disease start in your early 30's? __ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Post-Katrina plans for New Orleans
President Bush Sells Louisiana Back to the French BATON ROUGE, LA. - The White House announced today that President Bush has successfully sold the state of Louisiana back to the French at more than double its original selling price of $11,250,000. This is a bold step forward for America, said Bush. And America will be stronger and better as a result. I stand here today in unity with French Prime Minister Jack Shalac, who was so kind to accept my offer of Louisiana in exchange for 25 million dollars cash. The state, ravaged by Hurricane Katrina, will cost hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild. Jack understands full well that this one's a 'fixer upper,' said Bush. He and the French people are quite prepared to pump out all that water, and make Louisiana a decent place to live again. And they've got a lot of work to do. But Jack's assured me, if it's not right, they're going to fix it. The move has been met with incredulity from the beleaguered residents of Louisiana. However, President Bush's decision has been widely lauded by Republicans. This is an unexpected but brilliant move by the President, said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist. Instead of spending billions and billions, and billions of dollars rebuilding the state of Louisiana, we've just made 25 million dollars in pure profit. This is indeed a smart move, commented Fox News analyst Brit Hume. Not only have we stopped the flooding in our own budget, we've made money on the deal. Plus, when the god-awful French are done fixing it up, we can easily invade and take it back again. The money gained from 'The Louisiana Refund' is expected to be immediately pumped into the rebuilding of Iraq. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful. A few comments interleaved below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akasha: Does it strike anyone else as funny, even absurd, that the whole paradigm about enlightenment on this list is dichotomous, digital, either on or off? Unc: YES! That's exactly the issue. I realized that some time back, during the discussions about 'appreciation.' Some comment by, I think, Tom made me completely abandon my old paradigm and come up with a new one that more accurately described my subjective experience. A: Pure consciousness begins from the first mediation. If not before. U: Before. There has never been a moment in my life when I was not enlightened. That's the one point on all of this where I think we differ. First, I see no value in labels such as enlightenment. Me, either. I was just using the terminology already being used in these discussions. It can create distinctions, it can creates longing for titles, it can create false egos, it can creates scams, etc. And the upside is? Giving some people who are anxious for the title something to do with their time? :-) I just never appreciated it until a three-week period in Fiuggi, when the 24/7 wit- nessing made it impossible not to appreciate. Since then, that witnessing has slipped from foreground to background many times, but what I realized during the 'appreciation' discussion is that it has always been present. What I realized when I first appreciated it was that it had *always* been present. Speaking of which, perhaps someone can comment on an experience I've had lately: I've always had a well developed intellect, can think quickly. However, lately my intellect has literally been operating on a higher level. I say that because my previous experience of mental concentration in order to think something through always felt like it was inside my brain, and it took a lot of effort. My recent experience is that I am thinking *above* my brain. There seems to be a location about two hands above my head, wherein if I focus my thinking there, my intellect seems to achieve effortless answers to anything. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what this is, or have heard of it before? Also feels like I'm wearing a crown, or a halo or something. Not a big deal, just curious. Thanks- Sounds like classic disociation... Yes, if you haven't experienced it, it does, huh? When I was younger I used to get spaced out by too much meditation and experience things that I couldn't integrate. This, by contrast, is something I can experience, or not, at will. Its usefulness is 100% practical and fully grounded. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy: Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to yourself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working? Rory: *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and you have every right to choose when and where and with whom and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I think you're the greatest either way.:-) On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working, and if there were some pain associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead and breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism was located, and so on ... :-) Great. You go do that, and let us know what you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Intelligent Design - - (Was: What would happen if Hagelin...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would happen if Hagelin seriously weighed in on the current, highly charged, debate on intelligent design? How would he argue, left, right, or center? OffWorld * Hagelin would probably have to go with MMY's statement in the SBAL (~p.274): All the innumerable decisions that are apparently the result of natural laws in the process of evolution are the innumerable decisions of the almighty personal supreme God at the head of creation. He governs and maintains the entire field of evolution and the different lives of innumerable beings in the whole cosmos. But to me, this does not look different from seeing the universe as run by natural laws, i.e., whether it is a person or laws reacting to behavior, the outcome looks the same. God is not directing the activity of creatures, but is reacting to their behavior -- if somebody smokes cigarettes (like David Lynch with his packaday habit after 30+ years of TM), making the body coarse, the reaction is to create disease which eventually eliminates the body -- this is natural selection, whether it is done by a person or a set of laws operating automatically. So although Intelligent Design people would probably be satisfied with MMY's statement (that is, if he wasn't a goldurn Hindu), so could scientists who see the universe as natural-law-based. Bob Brigante http://geocities.com/bbrigante That's what I think, because Maharishi has always talked about 'the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, which to me suggests the phenomena of the coexistence of opposite concepts in one place at the same time. Infitinite parts (or activity) and unity, ie. the multiplicity of existence and God. This paradox is impossible to grasp for old school scientists and for intelligent design proponents. Ultimately though, I think one must concede to intelligent design. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would happen if Hagelin seriously weighed in on the current, highly charged, debate on intelligent design? How would he argue, left, right, or center? Define the terms first. Evolution is the inspiration for a major form of artificial intelligence theory, afterall... I didn't mention evolution because evolution means a process which has a goal. ie. Intelligent. The goal being the survival of the fittest according to Darwinists. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would happen if Hagelin seriously weighed in on the current, highly charged, debate on intelligent design? How would he argue, left, right, or center? Define the terms first. Evolution is the inspiration for a major form of artificial intelligence theory, afterall... I didn't mention evolution because evolution means a process which has a goal. ie. Intelligent. The goal being the survival of the fittest according to Darwinists. I'm not sure Darwinists would agree that survival of the fittest could be characterized as a goal. That the fittest survive is just what happens-- how could it not? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
U: And when this happens, in this dreamed-of future, wave to the pigs as they fly by... :-) A: The ones emerging from your butt? U: Mixed metaphor. It's monkeys that fly out of one's butt, and pigs that fly. :-) All possibilities dude. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] In a Melting Trend, Less Arctic Ice to Go Around
September 29, 2005 NYT In a Melting Trend, Less Arctic Ice to Go Around By ANDREW C. REVKIN The floating cap of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean shrank this summer to what is probably its smallest size in at least a century of record keeping, continuing a trend toward less summer ice, a team of climate experts reported yesterday. That shift is hard to explain without attributing it in part to human-caused global warming, the team's members and other experts on the region said. The change also appears to be headed toward becoming self-sustaining: the increased open water absorbs solar energy that would otherwise be reflected back into space by bright white ice, said Ted A. Scambos, a scientist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo., which compiled the data along with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Feedbacks in the system are starting to take hold, Dr. Scambos said. The data was released on the center's Web site, www.nsidc.org. The findings are consistent with recent computer simulations showing that a buildup of smokestack and tailpipe emissions of greenhouse gases could lead to a profoundly transformed Arctic later this century, when much of the once ice-locked ocean would routinely become open water in summers. Expanding areas of open water in the summer could be a boon to whales and cod stocks, and the ice retreat could create summertime shipping shortcuts between the Atlantic and the Pacific. But a host of troubles lie ahead as well. One of the most important consequences of Arctic warming will be increased flows of meltwater and icebergs from glaciers and ice sheets, and thus an accelerated rise in sea levels, threatening coastal areas. The loss of sea ice could also hurt both polar bears and Eskimo seal hunters. The Arctic ice cap always grows in the winter and shrinks in the summer. The average minimum area from 1979, when precise satellite mapping began, until 2000 was 2.69 million square miles, similar in size to the contiguous area of the United States. The new summer low, measured on Sept. 19, was 20 percent below that. Before 1979, scientists estimated the size of the ice cap based on reports from ships and airplanes. The difference between the average ice area and the area that persisted this summer was about 500,000 square miles, an area about twice the size of Texas, the scientists said. This summer was the fourth in a row with the ice cap areas sharply below the long-term average, said Mark C. Serreze, a senior scientist at the snow and ice center and a professor at the University of Colorado, Boulder. Dr. Scambos said the consecutive reductions in the ice cap make it pretty certain a long-term decline is under way. A natural cycle in the polar atmosphere called the Arctic oscillation, which contributed to the reduction in Arctic ice in the past, did not appear to be a factor in the past several years, Dr. Serreze said. He said the role of accumulating greenhouse gas emissions had become increasingly apparent with rising air and sea temperatures. Still, many scientists say it is not yet possible to determine what portion of Arctic change is being caused by rising levels of carbon dioxide and other emissions from human sources and how much is just climate's usual wiggles. Dr. Serreze and other scientists said that more variability could lie ahead and that the area of sea ice could actually increase some years. But the scientists have found few hints that other factors, like more Arctic cloudiness in a warming world, will reverse the trend. With all that dark open water, you start to see an increase in Arctic Ocean heat storage, Dr. Serreze said. Come autumn and winter that makes it a lot harder to grow ice, and the next spring you're left with less and thinner ice. And it's easier to lose even more the next year. The result, he said, is that the Arctic is becoming a profoundly different place than we grew up thinking about. Other experts on Arctic ice and climate disagreed on details. For example, Ignatius G. Rigor at the University of Washington said the change was probably linked to a mix of factors, including influences of the atmospheric cycle. But he agreed with Dr. Serreze that the influence from greenhouse gases had to be involved. The global warming idea has to be a good part of the story, Dr. Rigor said. I think we have a different climate state in the Arctic now. All of these feedbacks are starting to kick in and really snuffing the ice out by the end of summer. Other experts expressed some caution. Claire L. Parkinson, a sea ice expert at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., said a host of changes in the Arctic - including rising temperatures, melting permafrost and shrinking sea ice - were consistent with human-caused warming. But she emphasized that the complicated system was still far from completely understood. William L. Chapman, a sea ice researcher at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign,
[FairfieldLife] Cynthia Lennon: In her own write
Cynthia Lennon: In her own write First wife of late Beatle attempts to set the record straight By CNN's Gordon Isfeld Thursday, September 29, 2005; Posted: 6:05 a.m. EDT (10:05 GMT) Cynthia Lennon says the time is right to set the record straight. LONDON, England (CNN) -- Long before anyone was called the fifth Beatle, Cynthia Powell could rightfully have claimed the title for her own. It wasn't Stu Sutcliffe -- the Liverpool artist and best friend of John Lennon -- who died shortly after leaving the group, nor George Martin, though his talent as a producer helped open the door to the group's creativity. Nor was it Yoko Ono -- seemingly attached to John at the hip during the group's twilight years. And not Billy Preston, whose keyboard talents can be heard on The Beatles' later recordings and in their last live performance. Instead, it was a quiet-spoken, middle-class woman from a northern England suburb. It was there, as a teenager attending art school, that she met and fell in love with an equally young student who was destined to become one of the most famous pop artists in history. Cynthia was in the mix long before she became Mrs. Lennon, when the Beatles were not even a concept. And she was with John through the group's delirious ride through fame -- drugs, meditation and all. And now, more than 35 years after her painful divorce from John and 25 years after his death, Cynthia Lennon has published John -- a book she says needed to be written to erase the misconceptions left by other books about John, their 1962-1969 marriage and the Beatles. The only way you can get the truth is from the inside, not the outside, she said. I feel the time is right. Lennon -- speaking Wednesday at the Foreign Press Association in London --said she also wrote the book for their son, Julian, who she maintains has been very scared by life. I was trying to give him some more of a sense of being John's son. Asked for Julian's reaction to the book, she replied: I'm still waiting for it. Lennon, who now lives in Spain with her fourth husband, said she was prepared to continue waiting until Julian's ready to talk. The comment goes a long way to explaining the character of a woman often portrayed as weak and victimized. I'm not passive, I'm patient, said Lennon when asked why she put up with John's verbal abuse, heavy drug use and long absences from the family home. But I would not put up with physical abuse, she said, a reference to the new book's description -- absent from her 1978 book, A Twist of Lennon -- of John striking her in a fit of jealousy after he saw Cynthia and Sutcliffe dancing. John was always insecure, she said, having come from a broken family and losing his mother at a young age. He was brought up by his aunt Mimi, described as insensitive and overbearing, who took John into her home even before his mother's death. Mimi had a lot to answer for ... She stopped John from being with his natural mother. The cover of a new book on Lennon by his first wife Cynthia also felt the wrath of Mimi, who is now dead. It was a very difficult relationship, she told reporters. What little love she had for John, she had even less for me. John goes beyond her first book, adding details of John's post-divorce relationship with Julian, and her son's relationship with Ono. It also talks about the impact of John's murder by a deranged fan in 1980. Paul McCartney comes in for some rare praise from someone once in the Beatles' inner circle. Lennon's former songwriting partner paid Cynthia an unexpected visit shortly after the divorce, offering his support for her and a song for Julian, Hey Jude. For only the second time during Wednesday's news conference, Cynthia's eyes watered over as she described the joy she still feels each time she hears what has become a Beatles' anthem that was written for her son. The first sign of tears came earlier on as she acknowledged the up-coming 25th anniversary of John's death on December 8. (The singer, incidentally, would have been 65 on October 9.) Asked later if she has forgiven John for the pain he caused, she simply offered of course. Then she added: There are worse things in life than divorce. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy: Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to yourself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working? Rory: *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and you have every right to choose when and where and with whom and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I think you're the greatest either way.:-) On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working, and if there were some pain associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead and breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism was located, and so on ... :-) Great. You go do that, and let us know what you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the illusion. (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is complaining about, never has been. (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have completely missed the point I was making to Rory. I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to play therapist: If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. Jim, try thinking about this one above your head, see if you can pick up on one of those effortless answers. If you're still stumped, revisit the original context: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip [to Barry:] So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, and I say to myself, I'd rather be appreciating the Now. My point is that you've gotten yourself into yet another infinite regress when you prescribe appreciating the Now. Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. It would be better if I felt good. 2) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify our thinking patterns, It would be better if I clarified my thinking patterns so I could be completely satisfied. snip 3) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify our emotional-physiological patterns, It would be better if I clarified my emotional-physiological patterns so I could be completely satisified. If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: M's Criteria
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember those days? Standing there waiting for MMY. You see him and that amazing wave of darshan sweeping through. Jai Guru Dev! and he snaps the flower from your hand. The eye contact, when it occured- absolute magic. *** Excuse me, Peter, I'm a bit confused. Is this an advertisement for Visa card? That would be Discover card. Or perhaps Capital One: What's in YOUR wallet? LOL!!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy: Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to yourself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working? Rory: *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and you have every right to choose when and where and with whom and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I think you're the greatest either way.:-) On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working, and if there were some pain associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead and breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism was located, and so on ... :-) Great. You go do that, and let us know what you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... (1) The small self *is* Judy. And getting smaller with every labored defense... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Is constant foreground PC a sufficnet criteria for CC? That's how MMY defines it (if it's permanent); witnessing can apply to temporary experiences (CC being 24-hour permanent witnessing). It's a symbol, but for a very specific experience. I don't see that your four- letter job is any better, as long as we know what the definition of CC is. That's all I'm saying. I agree with you that a lot of the other terms are problematic. Good. But what is your definition of CC? (but define it in a non- seeking way :) ) In my understanding of how MMY uses the term, CC is permanent, 24-hour-a-day foreground PC. Can you now get universal consensus on this list for that definition? If I'm representing MMY's definition correctly, I ought to be able to, at least from those who recall MMY's teaching. Corrections to my understanding of how MMY uses the term are welcome. I'm only suggesting it because it's a term we're all familiar with, and it's not a complicated definition. Downright simplistic, in fact. :-) Suitable for beginners, true. Suitable for experts, too...just incomplete, as any definition of the undefinable would be. It's sorta like defining an orange as a round fruit. There's more to it than that... And what is the it you believe the definition in question refers to for which I'm proposing the term CC be used as shorthand? It is the seed in a seedless orange, of course. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Great. You go do that, and let us know what you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... (1) The small self *is* Judy. And getting smaller with every labored defense... And in contrast, the Unc small self is getting bigger with each new barb? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You've been trying now for quite a string of posts. Do you think you've gotten anywhere? *lol* Yes, I have done the work I needed to do. I meant with me. So did I. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. You go do that, and let us know what you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... (1) The small self *is* Judy. And getting smaller with every labored defense... And in contrast, the Unc small self is getting bigger with each new barb? I haven't dated anyone named barb since I was in the TM movement, but as I remember it, she definitely made parts of me get bigger. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy: Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to yourself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working? Rory: *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and you have every right to choose when and where and with whom and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I think you're the greatest either way.:-) On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working, and if there were some pain associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead and breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism was located, and so on ... :-) Great. You go do that, and let us know what you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the illusion. (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is complaining about, never has been. (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have completely missed the point I was making to Rory. I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to play therapist: If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. Jim, try thinking about this one above your head, see if you can pick up on one of those effortless answers. If you're still stumped, revisit the original context: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip [to Barry:] So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, and I say to myself, I'd rather be appreciating the Now. My point is that you've gotten yourself into yet another infinite regress when you prescribe appreciating the Now. Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. It would be better if I felt good. 2) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify our thinking patterns, It would be better if I clarified my thinking patterns so I could be completely satisfied. snip 3) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify our emotional-physiological patterns, It would be better if I clarified my emotional-physiological patterns so I could be completely satisified. If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, and I say to myself, I'd rather be appreciating the Now. My point is that you've gotten yourself into yet another infinite regress when you prescribe appreciating the Now. Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. It would be better if I felt good. And so how do we feel? Not-good? Is that the same as bad? What kind of bad? Itchy? Weepy? Stubborn? Guilty? Angry? Not-good is a good start, but perhaps let's dig a little deeper, taking our time, allowing it to breathe. Where in the body would it be, if it were in the body? Another very useful technique, with the limitation inherent in any technique. It must actually be practiced, not just read and discarded. Yes indeedydoo. If we're not appreciating the Now, and we think it would be better if we did, we should practice this technique so we can get rid of all those nasty obstacles sitting there in the way. horselaugh *lol* I like your laugh. No, it is not to get rid of the obstacles at all; it is to refine our attention sufficiently to appreciate them and integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Is constant foreground PC a sufficnet criteria for CC? That's how MMY defines it (if it's permanent); witnessing can apply to temporary experiences (CC being 24-hour permanent witnessing). It's a symbol, but for a very specific experience. I don't see that your four- letter job is any better, as long as we know what the definition of CC is. That's all I'm saying. I agree with you that a lot of the other terms are problematic. Good. But what is your definition of CC? (but define it in a non- seeking way :) ) In my understanding of how MMY uses the term, CC is permanent, 24-hour-a-day foreground PC. Can you now get universal consensus on this list for that definition? If I'm representing MMY's definition correctly, I ought to be able to, at least from those who recall MMY's teaching. Corrections to my understanding of how MMY uses the term are welcome. I'm only suggesting it because it's a term we're all familiar with, and it's not a complicated definition. Downright simplistic, in fact. :-) Suitable for beginners, true. Suitable for experts, too...just incomplete, as any definition of the undefinable would be. It's sorta like defining an orange as a round fruit. There's more to it than that... And what is the it you believe the definition in question refers to for which I'm proposing the term CC be used as shorthand? It is the seed in a seedless orange, of course. :-) Wrongaroonie. Try again. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. You go do that, and let us know what you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... (1) The small self *is* Judy. And getting smaller with every labored defense... And in contrast, the Unc small self is getting bigger with each new barb? I haven't dated anyone named barb since I was in the TM movement, but as I remember it, she definitely made parts of me get bigger. An engorged ego ? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy: Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to yourself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working? Rory: *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and you have every right to choose when and where and with whom and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I think you're the greatest either way.:-) On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working, and if there were some pain associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead and breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism was located, and so on ... :-) Great. You go do that, and let us know what you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the illusion. (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is complaining about, never has been. (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have completely missed the point I was making to Rory. I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to play therapist: If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. Jim, try thinking about this one above your head, see if you can pick up on one of those effortless answers. If you're still stumped, revisit the original context: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip [to Barry:] So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, and I say to myself, I'd rather be appreciating the Now. My point is that you've gotten yourself into yet another infinite regress when you prescribe appreciating the Now. Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. It would be better if I felt good. 2) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify our thinking patterns, It would be better if I clarified my thinking patterns so I could be completely satisfied. snip 3) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify our emotional-physiological patterns, It would be better if I clarified my emotional-physiological patterns so I could be completely satisified. If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, and I say to myself, I'd rather be appreciating the Now. My point is that you've gotten yourself into yet another infinite regress when you prescribe appreciating the Now. Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. It would be better if I felt good. And so how do we feel? Not-good? Is that the same as bad? What kind of bad? Itchy? Weepy? Stubborn? Guilty? Angry? Not- good is a good start, but perhaps let's dig a little deeper, taking our time, allowing it to breathe. Where in the body would it be, if it were in the body? Another very useful technique, with the limitation inherent in any technique. It must actually be practiced, not just read and discarded. Yes indeedydoo. If we're not appreciating the Now, and we think it would be better if we did, we should practice this technique so we can get rid of all those nasty obstacles sitting there in the way. horselaugh *lol* I like your laugh. No, it is not to get rid of the obstacles at all; it is to refine our attention sufficiently to appreciate them and integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness. :-) exactly; I never met an obstacle that wasn't me. And I can't get rid of myself. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it is not to get rid of the obstacles at all; it is to refine our attention sufficiently to appreciate them and integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness. :-) An important distinction that is often lost on those who have spent decades immersed in the TM metaphors of stress and knots of stress and unstressing, none of which actually exist, or were ever barriers to the realization of enlightenment. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Concise Minds, Concise Posts
I am sure some do indeed trace through poster IDs 10 levels deep, but I think they are in the outer regions of the solar system. Perhaps we could all trim posts down to ESSENTIAL antecedants. I mean conciseness IS an attribute of good writing. Conciseness as well as cleanliness are next to godliness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Is constant foreground PC a sufficnet criteria for CC? That's how MMY defines it (if it's permanent); witnessing can apply to temporary experiences (CC being 24-hour permanent witnessing). It's a symbol, but for a very specific experience. I don't see that your four- letter job is any better, as long as we know what the definition of CC is. That's all I'm saying. I agree with you that a lot of the other terms are problematic. Good. But what is your definition of CC? (but define it in a non- seeking way :) ) In my understanding of how MMY uses the term, CC is permanent, 24-hour-a-day foreground PC. Can you now get universal consensus on this list for that definition? If I'm representing MMY's definition correctly, I ought to be able to, at least from those who recall MMY's teaching. Corrections to my understanding of how MMY uses the term are welcome. I'm only suggesting it because it's a term we're all familiar with, and it's not a complicated definition. Downright simplistic, in fact. :-) Suitable for beginners, true. Suitable for experts, too...just incomplete, as any definition of the undefinable would be. It's sorta like defining an orange as a round fruit. There's more to it than that... And what is the it you believe the definition in question refers to for which I'm proposing the term CC be used as shorthand? It is the seed in a seedless orange, of course. :-) Wrongaroonie. Try again. Oh. I didn't realize it was a Quiz Show. Sorry. Is this Wheel Of Karma, that show where the person who has never experienced clear, sustained, 24/7 witnessing gets to define it, and its relationship to enlightenment as a whole, for those who have? I'd watch, but Jerry Springer is on the other channel... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, and I say to myself, I'd rather be appreciating the Now. My point is that you've gotten yourself into yet another infinite regress when you prescribe appreciating the Now. Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. It would be better if I felt good. And so how do we feel? Not-good? Is that the same as bad? What kind of bad? Itchy? Weepy? Stubborn? Guilty? Angry? Not- good is a good start, but perhaps let's dig a little deeper, taking our time, allowing it to breathe. Where in the body would it be, if it were in the body? Another very useful technique, with the limitation inherent in any technique. It must actually be practiced, not just read and discarded. Yes indeedydoo. If we're not appreciating the Now, and we think it would be better if we did, we should practice this technique so we can get rid of all those nasty obstacles sitting there in the way. horselaugh *lol* I like your laugh. No, it is not to get rid of the obstacles at all; it is to refine our attention sufficiently to appreciate them and integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness. :-) Yes indeedydoo. If we aren't sufficiently appreciating the obstacles to be able to integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness, and we think it would be better if we did, we should practice this technique to get rid of all the nasty obstacles to that appreciation and integration sitting there in the way. Think infinite regress, Rory. Think going around in circles. Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit peculiar about the concept of a technique to enable us to appreciate the Now. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. You go do that, and let us know what you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... (1) The small self *is* Judy. And getting smaller with every labored defense... And in contrast, the Unc small self is getting bigger with each new barb? I haven't dated anyone named barb since I was in the TM movement, but as I remember it, she definitely made parts of me get bigger. An engorged ego ? She actually *did* have a thing for big egos, and was a bit of a starfucker within the TM movement. Probably did Bevan and Hagelin at the same time. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy: Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to yourself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working? Rory: *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and you have every right to choose when and where and with whom and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I think you're the greatest either way.:-) On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, Gee, this doesn't seem to be working, and if there were some pain associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead and breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism was located, and so on ... :-) Great. You go do that, and let us know what you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the illusion. (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is complaining about, never has been. (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have completely missed the point I was making to Rory. I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to play therapist: If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. Jim, try thinking about this one above your head, see if you can pick up on one of those effortless answers. If you're still stumped, revisit the original context: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip [to Barry:] So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, and I say to myself, I'd rather be appreciating the Now. My point is that you've gotten yourself into yet another infinite regress when you prescribe appreciating the Now. Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. It would be better if I felt good. 2) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify our thinking patterns, It would be better if I clarified my thinking patterns so I could be completely satisfied. snip 3) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify our emotional-physiological patterns, It would be better if I clarified my emotional-physiological patterns so I could be completely satisified. If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. *lol* That is (apparently) my prerogative. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. Maybe there is nothing to process :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would happen if Hagelin seriously weighed in on the current, highly charged, debate on intelligent design? How would he argue, left, right, or center? Define the terms first. Evolution is the inspiration for a major form of artificial intelligence theory, afterall... I didn't mention evolution because evolution means a process which has a goal. ie. Intelligent. The goal being the survival of the fittest according to Darwinists. OffWorld The goal is inherent in the system. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. Hey, I already suggested that! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] In Melting Trend, Less Arctic Ice it has occured many times
This has not occurred in our life time but has many times @ least times before in those times the arctic area was a warm semi @ times tropical sea. these events occurred as we now sixth out mans intervention " global warming" The changes so far as e know were all related to changes in earth orbits the heating or cooling of our sun. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Unc: And getting smaller with every labored defense... Akasha: And in contrast, the Unc small self is getting bigger with each new barb? U: I haven't dated anyone named barb since I was in the TM movement, but as I remember it, she definitely made parts of me get bigger. A: An engorged ego ? She actually *did* have a thing for big egos, and was a bit of a starfucker within the TM movement. Probably did Bevan and Hagelin at the same time. :-) Oh. THAT barb. I thought you meant the other one. Well, I bet it was magical. Even if some moments were grey. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Youcranian siddha?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.richardsandrak.com/ His extreme level of fitness is no more a siddhi than my meager, by comparison, ability to deadlift 200 pounds after a year and a half of weight training. Looks to me like a relatively mundane mix of genetics, diet, hard work, and determination. Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. A: Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. J: Hey, I already suggested that! Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it sometimes. (You have been saying stop this nonesense, stop harassing me for 10 cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, and I say to myself, I'd rather be appreciating the Now. My point is that you've gotten yourself into yet another infinite regress when you prescribe appreciating the Now. Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. It would be better if I felt good. And so how do we feel? Not-good? Is that the same as bad? What kind of bad? Itchy? Weepy? Stubborn? Guilty? Angry? Not- good is a good start, but perhaps let's dig a little deeper, taking our time, allowing it to breathe. Where in the body would it be, if it were in the body? Another very useful technique, with the limitation inherent in any technique. It must actually be practiced, not just read and discarded. Yes indeedydoo. If we're not appreciating the Now, and we think it would be better if we did, we should practice this technique so we can get rid of all those nasty obstacles sitting there in the way. horselaugh *lol* I like your laugh. No, it is not to get rid of the obstacles at all; it is to refine our attention sufficiently to appreciate them and integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness. :-) Yes indeedydoo. If we aren't sufficiently appreciating the obstacles to be able to integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness, and we think it would be better if we did, we should practice this technique to get rid of all the nasty obstacles to that appreciation and integration sitting there in the way. Think infinite regress, Rory. Think going around in circles. Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit peculiar about the concept of a technique to enable us to appreciate the Now. Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your infinite regress argument -- it just doesn't apply here, at least in any meaningful way. The fact is, these techniques do work, if we really feel we have a sincere need or desire to grow. The truth is, of course, there *is* no growth; we *are* throroughly enjoying the Now, always have been, always will be. I was using a spacetime perspective to communicate with any small portion of Us which might still believe itself trapped in those illusory limitations. But I am happy if you are -- and even if you aren't :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the illusion. (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is complaining about, never has been. (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have completely missed the point I was making to Rory. I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to play therapist: If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn this into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think it was worth commenting on :-) Now if you'd just take out the lol and the smiley face, I might be convinced you were capable of expressing an honest reaction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc: It is the seed in a seedless orange, of course. :-) Judy: Wrongaroonie. Try again. U: Oh. I didn't realize it was a Quiz Show. Sorry. Is this Wheel Of Karma, that show where the person who has never experienced clear, sustained, 24/7 witnessing gets to define it, and its relationship to enlightenment as a whole, for those who have? I'd watch, but Jerry Springer is on the other channel... :-) Is that the show where rajas throw their thrones at each other? (Don't look at my Rajariness like that your Highness Dude!) Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) But now that you mention it, there just *was* an incident of throne-throwing on Springer. Two rajas started whacking at each other with their chairs, and while the Jerryguards were distracted trying to break up the fight, their wives (whose names, in accordance with TM etiquette, were never mentioned) got into this awesome, screaming catfight, trying to rip each other's saris off. And someone once said that television was a vast wasteland... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. A: Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. J: Hey, I already suggested that! Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it sometimes. (You have been saying stop this nonesense, stop harassing me for 10 cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) *lol* We see what we need to see, don't we? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would happen if Hagelin seriously weighed in on the current, highly charged, debate on intelligent design? How would he argue, left, right, or center? Define the terms first. Evolution is the inspiration for a major form of artificial intelligence theory, afterall... I didn't mention evolution because evolution means a process which has a goal. ie. Intelligent. The goal being the survival of the fittest according to Darwinists. The goal is inherent in the system. The goal is projected onto a system that doesn't need one. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the illusion. (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is complaining about, never has been. (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have completely missed the point I was making to Rory. I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to play therapist: If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn this into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think it was worth commenting on :-) Now if you'd just take out the lol and the smiley face, I might be convinced you were capable of expressing an honest reaction. *lol* I don't give a crap what you might or not be convinced of :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit peculiar about the concept of a technique to enable us to appreciate the Now. Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your infinite regress argument -- it just doesn't apply here, at least in any meaningful way. The fact is, these techniques do work, if we really feel we have a sincere need or desire to grow. But that's yet another iteration of the regress. Desire to grow and appreciate the Now are mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but experientially. Each is valid on its own level, but as long as you're doing one, you aren't doing the other. That's why this kind of thing has never worked for me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the illusion. (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is complaining about, never has been. (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have completely missed the point I was making to Rory. I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to play therapist: If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn this into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think it was worth commenting on :-) Now if you'd just take out the lol and the smiley face, I might be convinced you were capable of expressing an honest reaction. *lol* I don't give a crap what you might or not be convinced of :-) Good, Rory. Now see if you can do without those two crutches. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Rory: *lol* I don't give a crap ... Ah so reevaling on so many levels. Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, since they are focussed on trying to push their agendas out for all to endure. * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit peculiar about the concept of a technique to enable us to appreciate the Now. Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your infinite regress argument -- it just doesn't apply here, at least in any meaningful way. The fact is, these techniques do work, if we really feel we have a sincere need or desire to grow. But that's yet another iteration of the regress. Desire to grow and appreciate the Now are mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but experientially. I appreciate how it could look like this intellectually, and how it is evidently your experience, but I don't find it to be the case intellectually or experientially at all. Part of the paradox, I suppose. Each is valid on its own level, but as long as you're doing one, you aren't doing the other. That's why this kind of thing has never worked for me. I can see the appeal of this belief-system. It is nice and neat, and saves us the trouble of having to take any personal responsibility for our perceptions :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the illusion. (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is complaining about, never has been. (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have completely missed the point I was making to Rory. I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to play therapist: If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn this into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think it was worth commenting on :-) Now if you'd just take out the lol and the smiley face, I might be convinced you were capable of expressing an honest reaction. *lol* I don't give a crap what you might or not be convinced of :-) Good, Rory. Now see if you can do without those two crutches. *lol* :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: *lol* I don't give a crap ... Ah so reevaling on so many levels. Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, since they are focussed on trying to push their agendas out for all to endure. * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) I am not constipated, Akasha, in this body at least; sorry to disappoint you :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: *lol* I don't give a crap ... Ah so reevaling on so many levels. Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, since they are focussed on trying to push their agendas out for all to endure. * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) I am not constipated, Akasha, in this body at least; sorry to disappoint you :-) I'm relieved. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit peculiar about the concept of a technique to enable us to appreciate the Now. Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your infinite regress argument -- it just doesn't apply here, at least in any meaningful way. The fact is, these techniques do work, if we really feel we have a sincere need or desire to grow. But that's yet another iteration of the regress. Desire to grow and appreciate the Now are mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but experientially. Each is valid on its own level, but as long as you're doing one, you aren't doing the other. That's why this kind of thing has never worked for me. I've switched channels, and haven't really been following Wheel Of Karma, but I thought I'd let you guys know that over on the Springer channel the guest is a favorite repeat guest. She's been on the show several times a year for over ten years now, and they keep asking her back. She's a favorite with the audience, because every time she's on, she tells the same old tale of woe. On every show, people on the stage and people from the audience give her sincere advice about things she could do to be a little happier, but she never does any of them. She says it's because intellectually, she has analyzed each of the suggestions and knows that they cannot work. Me, I just think it's because she likes the attention she gets from being on the Springer show, and doesn't know what she'd say on it if she weren't miserable any more. Gotta go now...she's about to tell the same story she's told hundreds of times now, and I have to listen closely to see if anything's changed since the last time she was on... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit peculiar about the concept of a technique to enable us to appreciate the Now. Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your infinite regress argument -- it just doesn't apply here, at least in any meaningful way. The fact is, these techniques do work, if we really feel we have a sincere need or desire to grow. But that's yet another iteration of the regress. Desire to grow and appreciate the Now are mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but experientially. I appreciate how it could look like this intellectually, and how it is evidently your experience, but I don't find it to be the case intellectually or experientially at all. Part of the paradox, I suppose. Part of the difference between us. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit peculiar about the concept of a technique to enable us to appreciate the Now. Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your infinite regress argument -- it just doesn't apply here, at least in any meaningful way. The fact is, these techniques do work, if we really feel we have a sincere need or desire to grow. But that's yet another iteration of the regress. Desire to grow and appreciate the Now are mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but experientially. I appreciate how it could look like this intellectually, and how it is evidently your experience, but I don't find it to be the case intellectually or experientially at all. Part of the paradox, I suppose. Part of the difference between us. Vive la difference! :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: *lol* I don't give a crap ... Ah so reevaling on so many levels. Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, since they are focussed on trying to push their agendas out for all to endure. * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) I am not constipated, Akasha, in this body at least; sorry to disappoint you :-) It ain't the body, Rory. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: *lol* I don't give a crap ... Ah so reevaling on so many levels. Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, since they are focussed on trying to push their agendas out for all to endure. * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) I am not constipated, Akasha, in this body at least; sorry to disappoint you :-) It ain't the body, Rory. Isn't it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It ain't the body, Rory. Isn't it? Yet another place where we differ! :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. A: Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. J: Hey, I already suggested that! Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it sometimes. (You have been saying stop this nonesense, stop harassing me for 10 cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) Attempted spiritual rape. Fortunately I'm wearing my black belt... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Judy: But that's yet another iteration of the regress. Desire to grow and appreciate the Now are mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but experientially. Rory: I appreciate how it could look like this intellectually, and how it is evidently your experience, but I don't find it to be the case intellectually or experientially at all. ... You are now seeing differences? I thought it was all Oneness? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. A: Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. J: Hey, I already suggested that! Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it sometimes. (You have been saying stop this nonesense, stop harassing me for 10 cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) Attempted spiritual rape. Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them something about themselves they didn't want to hear, and in their minds, that became rape. So Maharihi's off the hook. Don't you all feel much better now? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I've switched channels, and haven't really been following Wheel Of Karma, but I thought I'd let you guys know that over on the Springer channel the guest is a favorite repeat guest. She's been on the show several times a year for over ten years now, and they keep asking her back. She's a favorite with the audience, because every time she's on, she tells the same old tale of woe. On every show, people on the stage and people from the audience give her sincere advice about things she could do to be a little happier, but she never does any of them. She says it's because intellectually, she has analyzed each of the suggestions and knows that they cannot work. Me, I just think it's because she likes the attention she gets from being on the Springer show, and doesn't know what she'd say on it if she weren't miserable any more. Try watching real life for a change, Barry. Believe me, it's *far* more interesting. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attempted spiritual rape. Fortunately I'm wearing my black belt... Fortunately... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy: But that's yet another iteration of the regress. Desire to grow and appreciate the Now are mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but experientially. Rory: I appreciate how it could look like this intellectually, and how it is evidently your experience, but I don't find it to be the case intellectually or experientially at all. ... You are now seeing differences? I thought it was all Oneness? Oh please, Akasha, don't make me out to be more stupid than I actually am :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I've switched channels, and haven't really been following Wheel Of Karma, but I thought I'd let you guys know that over on the Springer channel the guest is a favorite repeat guest. She's been on the show several times a year for over ten years now, and they keep asking her back. She's a favorite with the audience, because every time she's on, she tells the same old tale of woe. On every show, people on the stage and people from the audience give her sincere advice about things she could do to be a little happier, but she never does any of them. She says it's because intellectually, she has analyzed each of the suggestions and knows that they cannot work. Me, I just think it's because she likes the attention she gets from being on the Springer show, and doesn't know what she'd say on it if she weren't miserable any more. Try watching real life for a change, Barry. Believe me, it's *far* more interesting. Not really. The real-life model for my made-up Springer character and *her* infinitely-repeating tales of woe are much more boring than the fictional version. The Springer babe has been known to laugh at herself at least once in the past ten years... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. A: Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. J: Hey, I already suggested that! Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it sometimes. (You have been saying stop this nonesense, stop harassing me for 10 cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) Attempted spiritual rape. Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them something about themselves they didn't want to hear, and in their minds, that became rape. Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: All she needed was a really good screwing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I've switched channels, and haven't really been following Wheel Of Karma, but I thought I'd let you guys know that over on the Springer channel the guest is a favorite repeat guest. She's been on the show several times a year for over ten years now, and they keep asking her back. She's a favorite with the audience, because every time she's on, she tells the same old tale of woe. On every show, people on the stage and people from the audience give her sincere advice about things she could do to be a little happier, but she never does any of them. She says it's because intellectually, she has analyzed each of the suggestions and knows that they cannot work. Me, I just think it's because she likes the attention she gets from being on the Springer show, and doesn't know what she'd say on it if she weren't miserable any more. Try watching real life for a change, Barry. Believe me, it's *far* more interesting. Not really. The real-life model for my made-up Springer character and *her* infinitely-repeating tales of woe are much more boring than the fictional version. The problem with watching too much TV is that you start creating your own fantasies and mistaking them for real life. Why anyone would want to create *boring* fantasies is another question entirely. But I guess maybe real life is just too challenging for some. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. A: Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. J: Hey, I already suggested that! Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it sometimes. (You have been saying stop this nonesense, stop harassing me for 10 cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) Attempted spiritual rape. Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them something about themselves they didn't want to hear, and in their minds, that became rape. Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: All she needed was a really good screwing. Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. Barry, that's the *TV show*, remember? Turn it *off*, for pete's sake. You know, appreciate the Now. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc: I've switched channels, and haven't really been following Wheel Of Karma, but I thought I'd let you guys know that over on the Springer channel the guest is a favorite repeat guest. She's been on the show several times a year for over ten years now, and they keep asking her back. She's a favorite with the audience, because every time she's on, she tells the same old tale of woe. On every show, people on the stage and people from the audience give her sincere advice about things she could do to be a little happier, but she never does any of them. She says it's because intellectually, she has analyzed each of the suggestions and knows that they cannot work. Me, I just think it's because she likes the attention she gets from being on the Springer show, and doesn't know what she'd say on it if she weren't miserable any more. Judy: Try watching real life for a change, Barry. Believe me, it's *far* more interesting. Apparently he doesn't like the plot lines and endings in real life. Much more fun to control the plot in fantasies. But as the box above my head intuits, Uncs response will be: You are deluded, Judy. 'Real life' is just a dream. I am practicing advanced tantric methods where I can change my dreams at will. Judy's response will be (per the black box (BB)): Sounds like a nightmare to me. Do you wake up screaming in the middle of your dreams? Where by, per the BB, Unc will say: Just screaming in laughter, at your insistence that you can't change your dream Where by, per the BB, Judy will say: Dream on Where by, per the BB, Rory will say: I know the answer, call on me. I know! I know! Look at me. Please call on me!! The Two Stooges Play Guru. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. A: Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. J: Hey, I already suggested that! Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it sometimes. (You have been saying stop this nonesense, stop harassing me for 10 cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) Attempted spiritual rape. Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them something about themselves they didn't want to hear, and in their minds, that became rape. Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: All she needed was a really good screwing. Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. It's interesting how rape is cognate with rapture, and too how the self can see the rapture of the Self as a rape, and therapist as the rapist. The issue would as always I suppose boil down to informed consent. Does the moth ever really consent to be immolated in the flame it dances around? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc: I've switched channels, and haven't really been following Wheel Of Karma, but I thought I'd let you guys know that over on the Springer channel the guest is a favorite repeat guest. She's been on the show several times a year for over ten years now, and they keep asking her back. She's a favorite with the audience, because every time she's on, she tells the same old tale of woe. On every show, people on the stage and people from the audience give her sincere advice about things she could do to be a little happier, but she never does any of them. She says it's because intellectually, she has analyzed each of the suggestions and knows that they cannot work. Me, I just think it's because she likes the attention she gets from being on the Springer show, and doesn't know what she'd say on it if she weren't miserable any more. Judy: Try watching real life for a change, Barry. Believe me, it's *far* more interesting. Apparently he doesn't like the plot lines and endings in real life. Much more fun to control the plot in fantasies. But as the box above my head intuits, Uncs response will be: You are deluded, Judy. 'Real life' is just a dream. I am practicing advanced tantric methods where I can change my dreams at will. Judy's response will be (per the black box (BB)): Sounds like a nightmare to me. Do you wake up screaming in the middle of your dreams? Where by, per the BB, Unc will say: Just screaming in laughter, at your insistence that you can't change your dream Where by, per the BB, Judy will say: Dream on Where by, per the BB, Rory will say: I know the answer, call on me. I know! I know! Look at me. Please call on me!! The Two Stooges Play Guru. *lol* So, Unc, which do you wanna be, Moe or Curly? I'll take the other one. (Shemp is apparently already taken.) :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Attempted spiritual rape. Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them something about themselves they didn't want to hear, and in their minds, that became rape. Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: All she needed was a really good screwing. Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. It's interesting how rape is cognate with rapture, and too how the self can see the rapture of the Self as a rape, and therapist as the rapist. It would be fascinating if it weren't so scary. A self so terrified of losing itself that it sees Self as attempted rape. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Two Stooges Play Guru. *lol* So, Unc, which do you wanna be, Moe or Curly? I'll take the other one. (Shemp is apparently already taken.) :-) Can we be the Marx brothers instead? I'll be Karl. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attempted spiritual rape. Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them something about themselves they didn't want to hear, and in their minds, that became rape. Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: All she needed was a really good screwing. Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. It's interesting how rape is cognate with rapture, and too how the self can see the rapture of the Self as a rape, and therapist as the rapist. It would be fascinating if it weren't so scary. A self so terrified of losing itself that it sees Self as attempted rape. Well, it's just another story -- one I can certainly relate and relate to, as it has seemed that way to me sometimes :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Two Stooges Play Guru. *lol* So, Unc, which do you wanna be, Moe or Curly? I'll take the other one. (Shemp is apparently already taken.) :-) Can we be the Marx brothers instead? I'll be Karl. I had you pegged as Karl's little brother, Fredo. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Judy: Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. A: Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, though...got any more 'good ones'? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Two Stooges Play Guru. *lol* So, Unc, which do you wanna be, Moe or Curly? I'll take the other one. (Shemp is apparently already taken.) :-) Can we be the Marx brothers instead? I'll be Karl. OK, I'll take the other ones :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc: Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me seriously is my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have brought me eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the cycle of birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. Damn, foiled again!!! Just appreciate the Now, Akasha, just appreciate the Now. We've got a really delicious Now going here... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Jim: What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, though...got any more 'good ones'? So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being reflected in your posts? :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Two Stooges Play Guru. *lol* So, Unc, which do you wanna be, Moe or Curly? I'll take the other one. (Shemp is apparently already taken.) :-) Can we be the Marx brothers instead? I'll be Karl. OK, I'll take the other ones :-) The two of you are a particularly scrumptious couple of Marx, that's for sure. Anybody for a game of two-card Monte? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim: What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, though...got any more 'good ones'? So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being reflected in your posts? :) We all see what we need to, hey, Akasha? :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attempted spiritual rape. Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them something about themselves they didn't want to hear, and in their minds, that became rape. Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: All she needed was a really good screwing. Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. It's interesting how rape is cognate with rapture, and too how the self can see the rapture of the Self as a rape, and therapist as the rapist. It would be fascinating if it weren't so scary. A self so terrified of losing itself that it sees Self as attempted rape. Speaking of sexual aberration, it goes the other way too- I recall Maharishi talking about the small self holding the Self in bondage (!). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two of you are a particularly scrumptious couple of Marx, that's for sure. Thank you, thankyouverymuch! *bowing* Anybody for a game of two-card Monte? What, again? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two of you are a particularly scrumptious couple of Marx, that's for sure. Thank you, thankyouverymuch! *bowing* Anybody for a game of two-card Monte? What, again? *lol* Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attempted spiritual rape. Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them something about themselves they didn't want to hear, and in their minds, that became rape. Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: All she needed was a really good screwing. Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. It's interesting how rape is cognate with rapture, and too how the self can see the rapture of the Self as a rape, and therapist as the rapist. It would be fascinating if it weren't so scary. A self so terrified of losing itself that it sees Self as attempted rape. Well, it's just another story -- one I can certainly relate and relate to, as it has seemed that way to me sometimes :-) I guess I was fortunate, in that none of the experiences in my life of self dropping away and leaving only Self have had the least bit of dread or resistance associated with them. Interestingly enough, it was the same with acid, back in my hippie days. Everyone I knew had at least one bummer, in which the fear of losing self became so predominant that the person freaked out. Me, for what- ever reason, I just went with it and had great unity exper- iences. Go figure. All this brou-ha-ha (ha ha) has made me remember a great rap by the Rama fellow I studied with, dealing with this same subject: At the border of nirvana there's a crossing. And when you reach the border of nirvana, someone will come up to you and inform you that if you enter into nirvana everything that you've ever loved will be lost. You will be alone. There will be the most terrible aloneness that you can imagine. You will be alienated from everything, including yourself, forever. A sense of drifting in a cold, desolate space forever. At that moment, O nobly-born, all the images from all of your lives will come forward and will demand your attention. They will say, 'Don't cross over there. You will lose us and you will be sorrowful and empty and void.' If you listen to what that fellow at the border tells you, then you won't cross over. You'll go back to all the things that have bound you and limited you also. You'll go back to both because in the world of duality you have the pairs of opposites. If you listen to me, which no one does, fortunately, I would suggest that it's not like that at all. That when that fellow comes up to you and warns you against crossing the border, you'll say, 'Listen, several lifetimes ago I read one of Rama's books and while he very rarely says anything of any value whatsoever, there was one point he made which I put on a 3x5 file card which I happen to have in my back pocket. And I was going to review it because he said I'd run into you. I didn't actually believe it at the time but now that I've run into you I just happen to have this file card tucked away here and I'd like to examine it for a moment, if you don't mind.' And of course he'll say, 'We don't have time, the worlds are turning, existence is manifesting...' And you'll say, 'Just a minute!' You'll take out your faded 3x5 file card, it's a few lifetimes old -- actually, it would be better if you had a plastic one which you had laser engraved, because as we all know plastic lasts forever -- and it says, 'DON'T LISTEN.' Hopefully, it will be in the right language. Don't listen because in nirvana it's not like that. It's not empty or cold or barren. You don't remember that the ecstasy and completion of absorption in God is so fantastic that you can't possibly have lost anything because all the things you've always loved and always experienced came forth from there and exist there and are always there. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim: What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, though...got any more 'good ones'? So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being reflected in your posts? :) Oops, it isn't MY blackbox (nor is it black, nor a box, but of course, you knew that didn't you?) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of sexual aberration, it goes the other way too- I recall Maharishi talking about the small self holding the Self in bondage (!). YES! Claiming *seriously* that it is only a victim all the while! Priceless comedy; talk about your Stooges or Marx brothers! :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc: Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me seriously is my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have brought me eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the cycle of birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. Damn, foiled again!!! No fair! You're appealing to the selfless service aspect of me... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim: What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, though...got any more 'good ones'? So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being reflected in your posts? :) Output? A *real* programmer don't have to show you no steenkin' output! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two of you are a particularly scrumptious couple of Marx, that's for sure. Thank you, thankyouverymuch! *bowing* Anybody for a game of two-card Monte? What, again? Just no Full Montes, please. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc: Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me seriously is my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have brought me eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the cycle of birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. Damn, foiled again!!! No fair! You're appealing to the selfless service aspect of me... Is that your (very) small self? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Cool graphic!
On the home page. Neat. Where'd that come from? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim: What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, though...got any more 'good ones'? So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being reflected in your posts? :) Output? A *real* programmer don't have to show you no steenkin' output! Treasure of the Sierra Mudra? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cool graphic!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the home page. Neat. Where'd that come from? I simply imagined it and it appeared. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two of you are a particularly scrumptious couple of Marx, that's for sure. Thank you, thankyouverymuch! *bowing* Anybody for a game of two-card Monte? What, again? Just no Full Montes, please. Oh, come on! Spoilsport! Now you've *warned* them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Don't listen because in nirvana it's not like that. It's not empty or cold or barren. You don't remember that the ecstasy and completion of absorption in God is so fantastic that you can't possibly have lost anything because all the things you've always loved and always experienced came forth from there and exist there and are always there. Yes. Only the mind thinks THAT is empty and cold and barren, while *at the same time* recognizing it is completely satisfied, rock-bottom at last in the crystal-clear ocean of paradox. And as it surrenders into its own emptiness, Heart awakens into appreciation of its own fullness, incarnating more and more fully with the attentive breath, for prana is Brahman :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
Akasha: Just no Full Montes, please. Judy: Oh, come on! Spoilsport! Now you've *warned* them. *Howling at the full moons* Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akasha: Just no Full Montes, please. Judy: Oh, come on! Spoilsport! Now you've *warned* them. *Howling at the full moons* How cheeky. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
The two of you are a particularly scrumptious couple of Marx, that's for sure. Thank you, thankyouverymuch! *bowing* Anybody for a game of two-card Monte? What, again? Just no Full Montes, please. Oh, come on! Spoilsport! Now you've *warned* them. You like men dancing naked for you? Seems retro to me, but Ok, Go for it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Dreams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two of you are a particularly scrumptious couple of Marx, that's for sure. Thank you, thankyouverymuch! *bowing* Anybody for a game of two-card Monte? What, again? Just no Full Montes, please. Oh, come on! Spoilsport! Now you've *warned* them. You like men dancing naked for you? Seems retro to me, but Ok, Go for it. *rofl* I feel so violated. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
