[FairfieldLife] Re: 7-Eleven Om

2006-04-20 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sparaig wrote:
> 
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>sparaig wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>
> >[...]
> >  
> >
> the way over to Berkeley.  They will even be offering 
panchakarma.
>     
> 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>I'd be real leery of going to a hole-in-the-wall enema 
provider...
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>The practitioner is a westerner, not Indian.  We chatted quite a 
> >>    
> >>
> >bit 
> >  
> >
> >>about ayurveda and know some folks in common.  He's a student of 
> >>    
> >>
> >one of 
> >  
> >
> >>Vasant Lad's students.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Hygene is important, regardless of whose student's student you are.
> >
> >Here's a question: is it really PANCHA-karma if bloodletting is 
> >illegal in the USA?
> >
> >  
> >
> Given that they are currently remodeling the panchakarma room to 
make it 
> really nice hygiene will not be an issue.  I think their 
panchakarma has 
> more to do with oil massages and some of the other techniques which 
are 
> legal here.  Sorry if this is not the right brand of ayurveda for 
you 
> but you might like to know that according to some inside folks when 
MMY 
> set up MA, Vasant Lad was one of the first people he contacted.
>

I'm well awareof that. It is a joke. The name "panchakarma" 
means "five actions." If one of the actions is illegal, is it kosher 
to still call it five actions? Why not Four Actions instead?










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The proper way to eat a fig

2006-04-20 Thread Vaj


On Apr 20, 2006, at 4:02 PM, feste37 wrote:Gosh. All these c--t poems. Do female poets write in similar vein about the male genitals? I rather doubt it. I've never seen such a poem. In probably one of the most extraordinary enlightenment-poems in history, the female-Buddha Yeshe Tsogyal tells how she brought the men who raped her, who through karmic synchronicity came into her mandala, to enlightenment:The Rape of Yeshe Tsogel NAMO GURU PADMA SIDDHI HRI! My sons you have met a sublime consort, the Great Mother, And by virtue of your resources of accumulated merit,  Fortuitously, you have received the four empowerments. Concentrate upon the evolution of the four levels of joy.Immediately you set eyes upon my body-mandala,  Your mind was possessed by a lustful disposition, And your confidence won you the Vase Initiation. Apprehend the very essence of lust, Identify it as your creative vision of the deity, And that is nothing but the Yidam deity himself. Meditate upon lustful mind as Divine Being.Uniting with space, your consort's secret mandala, Pure pleasure exciting your nerve centres, Your aggression was assuaged and loving kindness was born, And its power won you the Mystic Initiation.  Apprehend the very essence of joy, Mix it with your vital energy and maintain it awhile, And if that is not mahamudra, nothing is. Experience pleasure as mahamudra.Joined to your consort's sphere of pure pleasure,  Inspired to involuntary exertion, Your mind merged with my mind, And that blessing won you the Wisdom Initiation. Undistracted, guard the very essence of pleasure, Identify pure pleasure with Emptiness, And that is what is known as immaculate empty pleasure. Experience pure pleasure as supreme joy.United at your consort's blissful nerve,  Our two nectars fused into one elixir. The phenomena of self and others extinguished,  Awareness won you the Initiation of Creative _expression_. Guard the natural purity in the world of appearances, Identify your love and attachment with Emptiness,  And that is nothing other than Dzogchen [Unity Consciousness] itself. Experience innate joy as no-joy.This is extraordinary, exalted secret instruction; To consciously practise this method brings a fall, But discovered by chance it gives miraculous release. You attained the four empowerments at once, And your success was matured by the four stages of joy. [From Sky Dancer pp. 118-19, Chapter. Seven:  Establishing, Spreading and Perpetuating the Teaching.] Commentary: The Use of SexA most remarkable example of the use of sex for the benefit of others is provided by Tsogyel when she initiates the rapists who successively abuse her. Much wisdom can be extracted from the song she sings to them.    In the first place, she shows what great power the Dakini possesses over them, and in their dependence upon her how their need can be used for their own good. The desire that arises upon apprehending an attractive woman in the visual field can transform a man into a god if his desire is penetrated by insight into emptiness; divine confidence creates a divine environment populated by gods and goddesses. The woman, or rather, the Dakini, transforms the man who lusts after her into her Guru, the man of her dreams. (Verse 1)    In this context, as in many other passages in The Life, mahamudra has a technical meaning distinct from its usage in the Kahgyupa School where it denominates the goal of practice synonimous with Buddhahood and virtually equivalent to Dzogchen. Here mahamudra indicates the totality of the unitary field of reality in its female aspect. (Verse 2)    It is the Dakini's nature of complete receptivity, empty space, that assuages male aggression; and it is the female organ's 'empty space' that is receptive to the symbol of his aggression. The mandala is completed as the Yidam deity takes up residence in his palace; and joy and pleasure, serenity and peace, are the hallmarks of the Guru's experience of mahamudra after the Mystic Initiation. (Verse 3)   Through 'involuntary exertion' ('no-action') desire reaches its climax, and it is the moment of climax that pure pleasure is understood as Emptiness; insight into Emptiness is achieved in the union of the male and female aspects of the mind and of being itself. The experience of Emptiness is a function of the unitary field of reality, which in this case is a result of sexual consummation. (Verse 4)   Even the uninitiated can gain intimation of pure gnostic awareness in the post-coitus hiatus, when our 'mystic partner' and all external phenomena seem to float in space, and sound has a clarity and timbre unrecognised in ordinary perception. The samaya of the Fourth Initiation is to sustain this experience of 'natural purity' in the world of appearences' and the samaya of zap-lam is to sustain recognition of the Emptiness in the desire that has been transformed into Awareness by the intensity of pure pleasure. Thus whatever arises in the fields of perception is cognised as primal sp

[FairfieldLife] Re: The proper way to eat a fig

2006-04-20 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Gosh. All these c--t poems. Do female poets write in similar vein 
about the 
> male genitals? I rather doubt it. I've never seen such a poem. 



Women aren't the ones with genes that make up pant like pigs at the 
trough.





> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > [From: the screenplay of "Women in love" by Larry Kramer based 
upon 
> > the novel by D. H. Lawrence]
> > 
> > 
> > The proper way to eat a fig in society...
> > is to split it in four...
> > holding it by the stump...
> > and open it...
> > so that it is a glittering, rosy, moist...
> > honeyed, heavy-petaled, four-petaled flower.
> > Then you throw away the skin...
> > after you have taken off the blossom
> > with your lips.
> > But the vulgar way...
> > is just to put your mouth to the crack...
> > and take out the flesh in one bite.
> > The fig is a very secretive fruit.
> > The ltalians vulgarly say
> > it stands for the female part, the fig fruit.
> > The fissure, the yoni...
> > the wonderful moist conductivity
> > towards the center...
> > involved, inturned
> > One small way of access only,
> > and this close-curtained from the light.
> > Sap that smells strange on your fingers,
> > so that even goats won't taste it.
> > And when the fig has kept her secret
> > long enough...
> > so it explodes, and you see,
> > through the fissure, the scarlet.
> > And the fig is finished, the year is over.
> > That's how the fig dies...
> > showing her crimson
> > through the purple slit.
> > Like a wound...
> > the exposure of her secret on the open day.
> > Like a prostitute,
> > the bursten fig makes a show of her secret.
> >
>










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[FairfieldLife] Why scorpion leader is worse than Bush

2006-04-20 Thread bob_brigante



http://www.slate.com/id/2140242/

"There is now no great secret about how the administration took the 
United States to war, and none about Blair's reason for supporting 
Bush. As the Labor politician Aneurin Bevan would have said, why 
look into the crystal ball when you can read the book? British 
troops are in Basra because of something Blair knew and something he 
believed. 

He knew that Washington was going to invade in any case, and he 
believed that "it would be more damaging to long-term world peace 
and security if the Americans alone defeated Saddam Hussein than if 
they had international support to do so." So he told one London 
journalist, telling another that he was worried about an American 
drift toward unilateralism and that his mission was to embrace Bush 
so as to "keep the United States in the international system." 

The harder these arguments are looked at, the more curious they 
seem. You don't say: "My big brother is a crazy kind of guy. On 
Saturday night he likes to get blind drunk and drive through town at 
90. It would be more damaging to peace and security if he acted 
alone than if he had my support, so I'll go along with him for the 
ride." Either Washington was doing something wise and virtuous, in 
which case it should have been supported for that reason, or not, in 
which case should have been restrained and, if necessary, opposed. 
As to binding the Bush administration into the international order, 
judge for yourself." 

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[FairfieldLife] Kaalidaasa's Kumaara-saMbhava

2006-04-20 Thread cardemaister




 Kumaara-sambhava} (Kumaara's Occasioning), usually translated `The 
Birth
of the War-god', a mahaakavya relating how Parvati won the love of Siva 
in order to bring into the world Kumara (i.e. Karttikeya) the god of 
war to destroy the demon Taraka. The last few cantos are usually 
omitted from printed versions, being of an excessively erotic nature. 
This is especially true of Canto VIII where the embraces of the newly-
wedded divine couple are dwelled upon in vivid detail.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: The proper way to eat a fig

2006-04-20 Thread feste37



Gosh. All these c--t poems. Do female poets write in similar vein about the 
male genitals? I rather doubt it. I've never seen such a poem. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> [From: the screenplay of "Women in love" by Larry Kramer based upon 
> the novel by D. H. Lawrence]
> 
> 
> The proper way to eat a fig in society...
> is to split it in four...
> holding it by the stump...
> and open it...
> so that it is a glittering, rosy, moist...
> honeyed, heavy-petaled, four-petaled flower.
> Then you throw away the skin...
> after you have taken off the blossom
> with your lips.
> But the vulgar way...
> is just to put your mouth to the crack...
> and take out the flesh in one bite.
> The fig is a very secretive fruit.
> The ltalians vulgarly say
> it stands for the female part, the fig fruit.
> The fissure, the yoni...
> the wonderful moist conductivity
> towards the center...
> involved, inturned
> One small way of access only,
> and this close-curtained from the light.
> Sap that smells strange on your fingers,
> so that even goats won't taste it.
> And when the fig has kept her secret
> long enough...
> so it explodes, and you see,
> through the fissure, the scarlet.
> And the fig is finished, the year is over.
> That's how the fig dies...
> showing her crimson
> through the purple slit.
> Like a wound...
> the exposure of her secret on the open day.
> Like a prostitute,
> the bursten fig makes a show of her secret.
>










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[FairfieldLife] The proper way to eat a fig

2006-04-20 Thread shempmcgurk



[From: the screenplay of "Women in love" by Larry Kramer based upon 
the novel by D. H. Lawrence]


The proper way to eat a fig in society...
is to split it in four...
holding it by the stump...
and open it...
so that it is a glittering, rosy, moist...
honeyed, heavy-petaled, four-petaled flower.
Then you throw away the skin...
after you have taken off the blossom
with your lips.
But the vulgar way...
is just to put your mouth to the crack...
and take out the flesh in one bite.
The fig is a very secretive fruit.
The ltalians vulgarly say
it stands for the female part, the fig fruit.
The fissure, the yoni...
the wonderful moist conductivity
towards the center...
involved, inturned
One small way of access only,
and this close-curtained from the light.
Sap that smells strange on your fingers,
so that even goats won't taste it.
And when the fig has kept her secret
long enough...
so it explodes, and you see,
through the fissure, the scarlet.
And the fig is finished, the year is over.
That's how the fig dies...
showing her crimson
through the purple slit.
Like a wound...
the exposure of her secret on the open day.
Like a prostitute,
the bursten fig makes a show of her secret.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7-Eleven Om

2006-04-20 Thread Bhairitu



sparaig wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>sparaig wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>[...]
>  
>
the way over to Berkeley.  They will even be offering panchakarma.
    

>
>  
>
>>>I'd be real leery of going to a hole-in-the-wall enema provider...
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>The practitioner is a westerner, not Indian.  We chatted quite a 
>>    
>>
>bit 
>  
>
>>about ayurveda and know some folks in common.  He's a student of 
>>    
>>
>one of 
>  
>
>>Vasant Lad's students.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Hygene is important, regardless of whose student's student you are.
>
>Here's a question: is it really PANCHA-karma if bloodletting is 
>illegal in the USA?
>
>  
>
Given that they are currently remodeling the panchakarma room to make it 
really nice hygiene will not be an issue.  I think their panchakarma has 
more to do with oil massages and some of the other techniques which are 
legal here.  Sorry if this is not the right brand of ayurveda for you 
but you might like to know that according to some inside folks when MMY 
set up MA, Vasant Lad was one of the first people he contacted.








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[FairfieldLife] Canada's oil

2006-04-20 Thread shempmcgurk



I've been telling you folks for quite a while that Canada has more oil 
than all of the proven reserves in the Middle East combined.

Finally, with oil over $70.00 a barrel, Americans are taking notice. 
Last month, "60 Minutes" did a lead-off story on it. Here is an 
article in this week's U.S. News and World Report.



http://tinyurl.com/jxb5v










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Deeksha Photos!

2006-04-20 Thread Bhairitu
I will say that I did download and watch the Kalki dude's short video on 
consciousness and thought he had a pretty good description. This makes 
me think that the overall negativity on this list against these folks is 
a NIH syndrome.

Marc Edwards wrote:

>This was taken from: 
>  
>  http://www.deekshas.com/
>  
>  
>  Aura Photos Taken Before and 
> After Deekshas  Submitted 17 April 2006 by: Maya Adelaide, South 
> Australia 
>  Jennifer  and I are deeksha givers currently living and working in 
> Adelaide,  South Australia. On Saturday 8th of April 2006 we carried out an  
> experiment to see what happens to a person’s aura before and after  receiving 
> enlightenment deekshas, with a few taken during deeksha.  Fellow deeksha 
> givers and recipients were invited to take part in this  fun and curious 
> event and the results proved very interesting.
>It is my understanding that every human being is surrounded by an  
> interplay of constantly changing colours know as the aura. Through  
> techniques such as Kirlian photography and aura imaging this  electromagnetic 
> energy field can be captured on a photograph.
>The aura is ovoid in shape (egg-shaped) with the largest part around  
> the head and shoulders and the smallest around the feet. It is made up  of 
> colours that are constantly changing, expanding and contracting with  our 
> incoming and outgoing thoughts and feelings. It is believed that  this energy 
> field reflects our emotions, moods, thoughts and state of  consciousness. It 
> can also have a direct affect on our wellbeing and  the wellbeing of those 
> around to us. Although our aura changes from  moment to moment it does not 
> appear to change dramatically unless there  is a big change in our life or a 
> major shift in consciousness.
>Because deekshas have demonstrated, through many personal experiences, 
>  as having the ability to facilitate major change in our life and raise  our 
> level of consciousness, I was very curious and thus inspired to  conduct this 
> experiement.
>   The aura photographs shown  in this article were taken with an aura 
> simulation camera that works  from the galvanic skin response taken from the 
> hands. The sensor scans  and measures the vibrational rate that the energy 
> field gives out  through the meridian points of the hands. This response is 
> transferred  into the camera’s computer component and translated into colours 
> that  make up the vibrational rate. This special camera first takes a picture 
>  of the person then superimposes the auric image over the first image.  This 
> then becomes an aura photograph.
>  The details of the program were as follows:
>  
>2.30pm to 3pm, the five deeksha givers and 14 recipients arrived at the 
> Torrensville Yoga Studio.
> 3pm to 4pm individual aura photos were taken of all attendees.
> 4pm to 5pm Maya leads a chanting and meditation session which is then 
> followed by deekshas.
> 5pm to 6pm individual aura photos were once again taken of all attendees.
> 6pm to 6.15pm three recipients each had an additional aura photo taken 
> whilst Maya was giving them enlightenment deeksha.
>  A sampling of the resulting aura photos follow:
>   
>
>  Julia (recipient) had a huge shift after 
> receiving 5 deekshas.
> 
>  
>  
>  In Michael's (recipient)  before photo 
> the line we can see is the top of the screen. 
>  
>  
>  
>  Malcolm  (deeksha giver) is husband to 
> Jacquie (below). The darker patches we  can see in the after photo is the 
> result of the picture still slightly  wet as it was scanned. 
>  
>  
>  
>  Jacquie (recipient) had a powerful 
> transformation.
> 
>  
>  
>  Sonia (recipient) also had a very 
> powerful transformation. 
> 
>  
>   
>  Interestingly  Bruno (recipient) did not 
> feel anything happening to him even after  receiving 5 deekshas. So Bhagavan 
> really cranked up the energy for the  extra deeksha he received from Maya 
> during the taking of the last  photo. After this deeksha Bruno finally said 
> that he felt the energy  entering him and cause his body to vibrate. Three 
> days later Bruno was  still buzzing and feeling VERY happy. 
> 
>  
>  
>  Maya's (deeksha giver) aura clearly reflects the 
> deeksha energy flowing through her being. 
> 
>  
>  
>
>  
>
>   
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wallace Stevens poem about the Self

2006-04-20 Thread feste37



Put those poems next to each other and you have the two aspects of Truth, 
absolute and relative.  Both to be enjoyed, I think. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can't say that I had your experience, but 
> I love it nonetheless. Thanks.
> 
> Since April is National Poetry Month in the 
> U.S., I'll submit one I've posted here before, 
> of a distinctly different tone than Stevens':
> 
> Bugs in a Bowl
> 
> Han Shan, that great and crazy, wonder-filled Chinese poet of a thousand 
years ago, said:
> 
> We're just like bugs in a bowl. All day going around never leaving their 
bowl.
> 
> I say, That's right! Every day climbing up 
> the steep sides, sliding back.
> 
> Over and over again. Around and around.
> Up and back down.
> 
> Sit in the bottom of the bowl, head in your hands,
> cry, moan, feel sorry for yourself.
> 
> Or. Look around. See your fellow bugs.
> Walk around.
> 
> Say, Hey, how you doin'?
> Say, Nice Bowl!
> 
> by David Budbill, from Moment to Moment: Poems of a Mountain Recluse 
(Copper Canyon 
> Press)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Read this poem by Wallace Stevens and see if it gives you an experience 
of 
> > the Self. It does me.  I love all the negations, the realization of 
nothingness. 
> > The poem is personal to Stevens but it's universal as well. Isn't that line 
> > "Today the mind is not part of the weather" the perfect description of the 
Self? 
> > 
> > 
> > A Clear Day and No Memories
> > 
> > No soldiers in the scenery, 
> > No thoughts of people now dead, 
> > As they were fifty years ago, 
> > Young and living in a live air, 
> > Young and walking in the sunshine, 
> > Bending in blue dresses to touch something, 
> > Today the mind is not part of the weather. 
> > 
> > Today the air is clear of everything. 
> > It has no knowledge except of nothingness 
> > And it flows over us without meanings, 
> > As if none of us had ever been here before 
> > And are not now: in this shallow spectacle, 
> > This invisible activity, this sense.
> >
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[FairfieldLife] Poetry Slam (was Re: Wallace Stevens poem about the Self)

2006-04-20 Thread feste37



Since we are talking about c--ts (quite a long way from my Wallace Stevens 
offering, by the way), here's another one:

A Woman's Genitals

Oh this world and oh this dear worldbody
see how it has become become become
how it has flowered and how it has put on gaudy
appearances how it is a plum
in its ripening a rose in its reddening a berry
in its glittering a finch in its throbbing a cowry
in its extraordinary allusiveness a night
of midsummer in its fragrances a tide
in its deepsurging and a dark woodland spring
in its concealing sources
see how it is velvety how its innerness clings
and presses how nearly it repulses
how it then takes and cherishes how it is austere
how it is free how it reviles abuses
and how it is here and how it was always here.

Hayden Curruth, from "For You"

Sigh. I prefer legs, myself. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here's mine, from Zen Master Ikkyu:
> 
> A Woman's Sex
> 
> It has the original mouth but remains wordless;
> It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair.
> Sentient beings can get completely lost in it.
> But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas 
>   of the ten thousand worlds.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Can't say that I had your experience, but 
> > I love it nonetheless. Thanks.
> > 
> > Since April is National Poetry Month in the 
> > U.S., I'll submit one I've posted here before, 
> > of a distinctly different tone than Stevens':
> > 
> > Bugs in a Bowl
> > 
> > Han Shan, that great and crazy, wonder-filled Chinese poet of a 
> thousand years ago, said:
> > 
> > We're just like bugs in a bowl. All day going around never 
> leaving their bowl.
> > 
> > I say, That's right! Every day climbing up 
> > the steep sides, sliding back.
> > 
> > Over and over again. Around and around.
> > Up and back down.
> > 
> > Sit in the bottom of the bowl, head in your hands,
> > cry, moan, feel sorry for yourself.
> > 
> > Or. Look around. See your fellow bugs.
> > Walk around.
> > 
> > Say, Hey, how you doin'?
> > Say, Nice Bowl!
> > 
> > by David Budbill, from Moment to Moment: Poems of a Mountain 
> Recluse (Copper Canyon 
> > Press)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Read this poem by Wallace Stevens and see if it gives you an 
> experience of 
> > > the Self. It does me.  I love all the negations, the realization 
> of nothingness. 
> > > The poem is personal to Stevens but it's universal as well. 
> Isn't that line 
> > > "Today the mind is not part of the weather" the perfect 
> description of the Self? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A Clear Day and No Memories
> > > 
> > > No soldiers in the scenery, 
> > > No thoughts of people now dead, 
> > > As they were fifty years ago, 
> > > Young and living in a live air, 
> > > Young and walking in the sunshine, 
> > > Bending in blue dresses to touch something, 
> > > Today the mind is not part of the weather. 
> > > 
> > > Today the air is clear of everything. 
> > > It has no knowledge except of nothingness 
> > > And it flows over us without meanings, 
> > > As if none of us had ever been here before 
> > > And are not now: in this shallow spectacle, 
> > > This invisible activity, this sense.
> > >
> >
>










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[FairfieldLife] Poetry Slam (was Re: Wallace Stevens poem about the Self)

2006-04-20 Thread TurquoiseB



Here's mine, from Zen Master Ikkyu:

A Woman's Sex

It has the original mouth but remains wordless;
It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair.
Sentient beings can get completely lost in it.
But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas 
  of the ten thousand worlds.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can't say that I had your experience, but 
> I love it nonetheless. Thanks.
> 
> Since April is National Poetry Month in the 
> U.S., I'll submit one I've posted here before, 
> of a distinctly different tone than Stevens':
> 
> Bugs in a Bowl
> 
> Han Shan, that great and crazy, wonder-filled Chinese poet of a 
thousand years ago, said:
> 
> We're just like bugs in a bowl. All day going around never 
leaving their bowl.
> 
> I say, That's right! Every day climbing up 
> the steep sides, sliding back.
> 
> Over and over again. Around and around.
> Up and back down.
> 
> Sit in the bottom of the bowl, head in your hands,
> cry, moan, feel sorry for yourself.
> 
> Or. Look around. See your fellow bugs.
> Walk around.
> 
> Say, Hey, how you doin'?
> Say, Nice Bowl!
> 
> by David Budbill, from Moment to Moment: Poems of a Mountain 
Recluse (Copper Canyon 
> Press)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Read this poem by Wallace Stevens and see if it gives you an 
experience of 
> > the Self. It does me.  I love all the negations, the realization 
of nothingness. 
> > The poem is personal to Stevens but it's universal as well. 
Isn't that line 
> > "Today the mind is not part of the weather" the perfect 
description of the Self? 
> > 
> > 
> > A Clear Day and No Memories
> > 
> > No soldiers in the scenery, 
> > No thoughts of people now dead, 
> > As they were fifty years ago, 
> > Young and living in a live air, 
> > Young and walking in the sunshine, 
> > Bending in blue dresses to touch something, 
> > Today the mind is not part of the weather. 
> > 
> > Today the air is clear of everything. 
> > It has no knowledge except of nothingness 
> > And it flows over us without meanings, 
> > As if none of us had ever been here before 
> > And are not now: in this shallow spectacle, 
> > This invisible activity, this sense.
> >
>










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Wallace Stevens poem about the Self

2006-04-20 Thread Patrick Gillam



Can't say that I had your experience, but 
I love it nonetheless. Thanks.

Since April is National Poetry Month in the 
U.S., I'll submit one I've posted here before, 
of a distinctly different tone than Stevens':

Bugs in a Bowl

Han Shan, that great and crazy, wonder-filled Chinese poet of a thousand years ago, said:

We're just like bugs in a bowl. All day going around never leaving their bowl.

I say, That's right! Every day climbing up 
the steep sides, sliding back.

Over and over again. Around and around.
Up and back down.

Sit in the bottom of the bowl, head in your hands,
cry, moan, feel sorry for yourself.

Or. Look around. See your fellow bugs.
Walk around.

Say, Hey, how you doin'?
Say, Nice Bowl!

by David Budbill, from Moment to Moment: Poems of a Mountain Recluse (Copper Canyon 
Press)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Read this poem by Wallace Stevens and see if it gives you an experience of 
> the Self. It does me.  I love all the negations, the realization of nothingness. 
> The poem is personal to Stevens but it's universal as well. Isn't that line 
> "Today the mind is not part of the weather" the perfect description of the Self? 
> 
> 
> A Clear Day and No Memories
> 
> No soldiers in the scenery, 
> No thoughts of people now dead, 
> As they were fifty years ago, 
> Young and living in a live air, 
> Young and walking in the sunshine, 
> Bending in blue dresses to touch something, 
> Today the mind is not part of the weather. 
> 
> Today the air is clear of everything. 
> It has no knowledge except of nothingness 
> And it flows over us without meanings, 
> As if none of us had ever been here before 
> And are not now: in this shallow spectacle, 
> This invisible activity, this sense.
>











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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Fairy Tale? was: Forcing people to meditate, wa

2006-04-20 Thread Richard Hughes






>From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Fairy Tale? was: Forcing people to 
>meditate, wa
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:42:44 -
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hughes"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I think the seperation from nature is the whole issue with man, not
> > as individuals but as an evolutionary thing. The seperateness comes
> > from abstract thought, we are the only animal that knows that it will
> > die. All other creatures are blissfully ignorant of this and thus
> > joined to nature by lives of pure instinct.
>
>FWIW, there's some evidence that the higher apes are
>capable of abstract thought.
>
>If you paint a red splotch on an orangutan's head, then
>give it a mirror, it will look at itself in the mirror
>and then reach for its own head to find out what the
>splotch is.  This is taken to mean that the orang has
>a sense of itself as an individual, some degree of self-
>awareneness.
>
>Whether it knows that it will die is another question.
>But do we really know we will die?  I suggest that we
>know only that *others* die and extrapolate from that,
>but the bottom line is that this is really just a
>speculation, well founded though it may be.
>
>Our intuition, our gut sense, tells us otherwise: we
>literally cannot conceive--except on an intellectual
>level--that our consciousness will cease to exist (or
>that there was a time before our birth when it did not
>yet exist).  We come to believe in the evidence that
>we will die because we see that others die, but it's
>still just a belief, and moreover a belief that
>contradicts our intuition.
>
>An orangutan also sees that others like itself die.
>The higher apes are known to mourn the deaths of
>others.  Given the orangutan's sense of itself as
>an individual like other individuals it sees die,
>it's not *too* great a stretch to think it may also
>extrapolate to the idea that it too will die.
>
>In any case, my point is that it's not so much abstract
>thought that makes the difference, but rather the
>capacity for self-awareness, which must exist before any
>abstract thought can take place.  But the capacity for
>self-awareness in and of itself may mandate some degree
>of abstract thought; and since some animals apparently
>do have self-awareness, it would follow that they also
>have some capacity for abstract thought.
>
>
>
>
Yes, I guess as we share 98% of our DNA with these guys there ought to be 
more similarities than just physical appearance.

Is it possible to teach one of the other apes to meditate though?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Research, Ethics and the Good Head

2006-04-20 Thread TurquoiseB



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > > Being stuck in a paradigm? I wouldn't recommend getting 
> > > stuck in *any thing*.
> >
> > Having as a goal during meditation "the tracing a seed 
> > syllable back to its source -- silence."
> 
>  Goal of the *method*, not during meditation.
> 
> I see you're back to the silly semantic game again.

In the absence of experience, theory and arguing 
semantics is all one has.  Think of it as a Linus 
blanket; I find it helps to inspire compassion.












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[FairfieldLife] Re: 7-Eleven Om

2006-04-20 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sparaig wrote:
> 
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
[...]
> >>the way over to Berkeley.  They will even be offering panchakarma.

> >I'd be real leery of going to a hole-in-the-wall enema provider...
> >
> >  
> >
> The practitioner is a westerner, not Indian.  We chatted quite a 
bit 
> about ayurveda and know some folks in common.  He's a student of 
one of 
> Vasant Lad's students.
>

Hygene is important, regardless of whose student's student you are.

Here's a question: is it really PANCHA-karma if bloodletting is 
illegal in the USA?









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7-Eleven Om

2006-04-20 Thread Bhairitu



sparaig wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>sparaig wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
authfriend wrote:

   

    

>Last Sunday I went into my corner 7-Eleven to pick up
>a few things.  As I was paying at the counter, the
>clerk--a friendly young Indian guy who likes to banter
>with customers--asked me if I'd had a nice Easter.
>
>I'd forgotten.  I said, "Was today Easter?"  He looked
>surprised, and I said, "I'm not religious."  Then I put
>on a pious _expression_ and said, "But I'm very spiritual."
>
>He chuckled.  Then he said, "Do you meditate?"  I said
>yes, I did.  He looked pleased.  Then he said, "Do you
>use OM?"
>
>I said "No, but I'm not going to tell you what my
>mantra is."
>
>He responded, "Oh, they say meditation that doesn't
>use OM can't be effective."
>
>I said I'd heard that too.  He grinned and handed me
>my change.
>
>That was the end of the conversation, but after I left
>I thought how neat it was to connect, however briefly,
>with a clerk in a convenience store on a relatively
>sophisticated level of meditation lore.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
You may recall over on a.m.t that I suggested given that you are 
    

>in 
>  
>
   

    

>>>New 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Jersey which has quite an Indian community to make the 
    

>acquaintance 
>  
>
   

    

>>>of 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
some of those folks.  Try an Indian grocery next.  They love to 
   

    

>>>have 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Americans visit them and chat.

   

    

>>>So none of them are citizens?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Some may still be waiting for citizenship.  Others may have even 
>>    
>>
>been 
>  
>
>>born here but you can almost write them off about knowing much 
>>    
>>
>Indian.  
>  
>
>>I had tell one high school age Indian girl who was working at her 
>>parents store what Triphala was and she said she didn't know much 
>>    
>>
>about 
>  
>
>>the stuff they sold there.  :)
>>
>>I also had another pleasant surprise today as there is an Indian 
>>    
>>
>grocery 
>  
>
>>just a block up from where I take my car to be worked on.  Now it 
>>    
>>
>has 
>  
>
>>become an ayurvedic store (as well as Indian grocery).  Now I will 
>>    
>>
>be 
>  
>
>>able to pick up some ayurvedic supplies (herbs, etc) without going 
>>    
>>
>all 
>  
>
>>the way over to Berkeley.  They will even be offering panchakarma.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>I'd be real leery of going to a hole-in-the-wall enema provider...
>
>  
>
The practitioner is a westerner, not Indian.  We chatted quite a bit 
about ayurveda and know some folks in common.  He's a student of one of 
Vasant Lad's students.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deeksha Photos!

2006-04-20 Thread Bhairitu



Mine was deep red.   Seemed to scare the hell out of them. :)

jim_flanegin wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>  
>
>>Last time I had my aura photographed at one of those
>>New Age Fairs, mine had a racing stripe. 
>>    
>>
>
>yeah, mine looked suspiciously like someone holding up a smiley-face 
>button in front of the camera...
> 
>  
>
>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:37 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:
>>>  
>>>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marc Edwards   
wrote:
    

>This was taken from:
>
>  http://www.deekshas.com/
>
>
>  Aura 
>  
>
>Photos 
>  
>
>>Taken
>>    
>>
Before and After Deekshas  Submitted 17 April 2006 by: Maya
Adelaide, South Australia
    

>  Jennifer  and I are deeksha givers currently living and
>  
>
working in Adelaide,  South Australia. On Saturday 8th of 
    

>April 
>  
>
>>2006
>>    
>>
we carried out an  experiment to see what happens to a 
    

>person's 
>  
>
>>aura
>>    
>>
before and after  receiving enlightenment deekshas, with a few 
    

>>taken
>>    
>>
during deeksha.  Fellow deeksha givers and recipients were 
    

>>invited to
>>    
>>
take part in this  fun and curious event and the results 
    

>proved 
>  
>
>>very
>>    
>>
interesting.
***snip***
"The aura photographs shown in this article were taken with an 
    

>>aura
>>    
>>
simulation camera that works from the galvanic skin response 
    

>>taken
>>    
>>
from the hands. ***The sensor scans and measures the 
    

>vibrational 
>  
>
>>rate
>>    
>>
that the energy field gives out through the meridian points of 
    

>>the
>>    
>>
hands. This response is transferred into the camera's computer
component and translated into colours that make up the 
    

>>vibrational
>>    
>>
rate.*** This special camera first takes a picture of the 
    

>person 
>  
>
>>then
>>    
>>
superimposes the auric image over the first image. This then 
    

>>becomes
>>    
>>
an aura photograph."

--
Have to know a great deal more about 'scans and measures the
vibrational rate' before you can say if these indicate 
    

>anything 
>  
>
>>about
>>    
>>
'deeksha' at all.
    

>>>http://www.csicop.org/si/2000-05/i-files.html
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>
>
>
>
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[FairfieldLife] Typewrite your Mantra

2006-04-20 Thread t3rinity



Thoughts Trigger Mental Typewriter
By Tracy Staedter, Discovery News
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April 17, 2006— A computerized typewriter that translates electrical
impulses from brainwave signals into letters and words could be
available in the next five years.

In the short term, the technology will allow its developers, from the
Fraunhofer Institute and the Charité Hospital in Berlin, Germany, to
watch a thinking and behaving brain function in real time.

But in the long term, such a brain-machine interface could replace the
joystick in electronic gaming or serve as a communication tool for
people unable to speak or sign.

"We are dreaming of something like a baseball cap with electrodes in
the cap that can measure the brainwaves," said one of the scientists
behind the project, Klaus-Robert Mueller of the Fraunhofer Institute.

"People could just put on the cap and have a wireless connection from
these electrodes to a computer and they can play video games."
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That vision, said Mueller, will require advances in electrode
technology that allow the tiny, metal sensors to pick up electric
signals from brainwave activity without making contact with the skin.

For now, Mueller and his colleagues are still somewhat constrained by
the conventional electrode cap, which looks like a swimmer's cap
embedded with 64 or 128 contact points and a web of wires leading to a
computer.

Each electrode embedded in the cap must be smeared with a conductive
gel before the cap is fitted properly to a person's head, a process
that can take 30 minutes to an hour.

Where Mueller and his team's technology excels is in the software.

Once the electrode cap is in place, the person must calibrate the
computer to their individual brainwaves.

Whereas other research projects may require a person to spend 100
hours practicing with the machine before calibration is finalized, the
Fraunhofer system takes only five minutes.

"The Berlin group is very strong and focused on the computer learning
the pattern," said Robert Leeb, a brain-computer interface researcher
at Graz University of Technology in Austria.

Leeb works on a team that is currently developing a machine that
propels a person through a virtual environment based on their brain
signals.

During calibration, the person imagines moving his left or right hand.
The signals picked up by the electrodes are processed in a specially
written computer program that filters out signals from thoughts not
related to moving the object and homes in on the brain activity
responsible for the imagination of movements.

Once the person is in sync with the computer, he can imagine moving
his hands or feet or rotating an object to trigger an action on the
screen.

"In the brain, there is one specific area on the cortex that is active
during left hand motor imagery and another one that is active during
right hand motor imagery. These mental tasks are discriminated by
their brain activity patterns and can thus be used for brain-computer
interface control," said team member Benjamin Blankertz.

Additional computer screens present various data indicating brain
activity, which the team monitors closely.

Their goal is to capture and display many more psychological measures,
such as those that reveal cognitive workload, attention, stress, and
vigilance.

The work could open the door on a wealth of information about how the
brain functions, not to mention improve how it controls images
on-screen with just a thought. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Deeksha Photos!

2006-04-20 Thread jim_flanegin



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Last time I had my aura photographed at one of those
> New Age Fairs, mine had a racing stripe. 

yeah, mine looked suspiciously like someone holding up a smiley-face 
button in front of the camera...
 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:37 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marc Edwards   
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This was taken from:
> > > >
> > > >   http://www.deekshas.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Aura 
Photos 
> Taken
> > > Before and After Deekshas  Submitted 17 April 2006 by: Maya
> > > Adelaide, South Australia
> > > >   Jennifer  and I are deeksha givers currently living and
> > > working in Adelaide,  South Australia. On Saturday 8th of 
April 
> 2006
> > > we carried out an  experiment to see what happens to a 
person's 
> aura
> > > before and after  receiving enlightenment deekshas, with a few 
> taken
> > > during deeksha.  Fellow deeksha givers and recipients were 
> invited to
> > > take part in this  fun and curious event and the results 
proved 
> very
> > > interesting.
> > > ***snip***
> > > "The aura photographs shown in this article were taken with an 
> aura
> > > simulation camera that works from the galvanic skin response 
> taken
> > > from the hands. ***The sensor scans and measures the 
vibrational 
> rate
> > > that the energy field gives out through the meridian points of 
> the
> > > hands. This response is transferred into the camera's computer
> > > component and translated into colours that make up the 
> vibrational
> > > rate.*** This special camera first takes a picture of the 
person 
> then
> > > superimposes the auric image over the first image. This then 
> becomes
> > > an aura photograph."
> > >
> > > --
> > > Have to know a great deal more about 'scans and measures the
> > > vibrational rate' before you can say if these indicate 
anything 
> about
> > > 'deeksha' at all.
> > 
> > http://www.csicop.org/si/2000-05/i-files.html
> >
>










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Deeksha Photos!

2006-04-20 Thread TurquoiseB



Last time I had my aura photographed at one of those
New Age Fairs, mine had a racing stripe. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:37 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marc Edwards   
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > This was taken from:
> > >
> > >   http://www.deekshas.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >   Aura Photos 
Taken
> > Before and After Deekshas  Submitted 17 April 2006 by: Maya
> > Adelaide, South Australia
> > >   Jennifer  and I are deeksha givers currently living and
> > working in Adelaide,  South Australia. On Saturday 8th of April 
2006
> > we carried out an  experiment to see what happens to a person's 
aura
> > before and after  receiving enlightenment deekshas, with a few 
taken
> > during deeksha.  Fellow deeksha givers and recipients were 
invited to
> > take part in this  fun and curious event and the results proved 
very
> > interesting.
> > ***snip***
> > "The aura photographs shown in this article were taken with an 
aura
> > simulation camera that works from the galvanic skin response 
taken
> > from the hands. ***The sensor scans and measures the vibrational 
rate
> > that the energy field gives out through the meridian points of 
the
> > hands. This response is transferred into the camera's computer
> > component and translated into colours that make up the 
vibrational
> > rate.*** This special camera first takes a picture of the person 
then
> > superimposes the auric image over the first image. This then 
becomes
> > an aura photograph."
> >
> > --
> > Have to know a great deal more about 'scans and measures the
> > vibrational rate' before you can say if these indicate anything 
about
> > 'deeksha' at all.
> 
> http://www.csicop.org/si/2000-05/i-files.html
>










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Deeksha Photos!

2006-04-20 Thread jyouells2000



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:37 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marc Edwards   
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > This was taken from:
> > >
> > >   http://www.deekshas.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >   Aura Photos Taken
> > Before and After Deekshas  Submitted 17 April 2006 by: Maya
> > Adelaide, South Australia
> > >   Jennifer  and I are deeksha givers currently living and
> > working in Adelaide,  South Australia. On Saturday 8th of April 2006
> > we carried out an  experiment to see what happens to a person's aura
> > before and after  receiving enlightenment deekshas, with a few taken
> > during deeksha.  Fellow deeksha givers and recipients were invited to
> > take part in this  fun and curious event and the results proved very
> > interesting.
> > ***snip***
> > "The aura photographs shown in this article were taken with an aura
> > simulation camera that works from the galvanic skin response taken
> > from the hands. ***The sensor scans and measures the vibrational rate
> > that the energy field gives out through the meridian points of the
> > hands. This response is transferred into the camera's computer
> > component and translated into colours that make up the vibrational
> > rate.*** This special camera first takes a picture of the person then
> > superimposes the auric image over the first image. This then becomes
> > an aura photograph."
> >
> > --
> > Have to know a great deal more about 'scans and measures the
> > vibrational rate' before you can say if these indicate anything about
> > 'deeksha' at all.
> 
> http://www.csicop.org/si/2000-05/i-files.html
>

Yup, gobboldy-goop.  I was mistakenly trying to be kind. 
Creative scam, but not as good as a land deal. 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deeksha Photos!

2006-04-20 Thread Vaj


On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:37 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marc Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> This was taken from: >   >   http://www.deekshas.com/>   >   >   Aura Photos TakenBefore and After Deekshas  Submitted 17 April 2006 by: MayaAdelaide, South Australia >   Jennifer  and I are deeksha givers currently living andworking in Adelaide,  South Australia. On Saturday 8th of April 2006we carried out an  experiment to see what happens to a person's aurabefore and after  receiving enlightenment deekshas, with a few takenduring deeksha.  Fellow deeksha givers and recipients were invited totake part in this  fun and curious event and the results proved veryinteresting.***snip***"The aura photographs shown in this article were taken with an aurasimulation camera that works from the galvanic skin response takenfrom the hands. ***The sensor scans and measures the vibrational ratethat the energy field gives out through the meridian points of thehands. This response is transferred into the camera's computercomponent and translated into colours that make up the vibrationalrate.*** This special camera first takes a picture of the person thensuperimposes the auric image over the first image. This then becomesan aura photograph."--Have to know a great deal more about 'scans and measures thevibrational rate' before you can say if these indicate anything about'deeksha' at all. http://www.csicop.org/si/2000-05/i-files.html





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Deeksha Photos!

2006-04-20 Thread jyouells2000



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marc Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This was taken from: 
>   
>   http://www.deekshas.com/
>   
>   
>   Aura Photos Taken
Before and After Deekshas  Submitted 17 April 2006 by: Maya
Adelaide, South Australia 
>   Jennifer  and I are deeksha givers currently living and
working in Adelaide,  South Australia. On Saturday 8th of April 2006
we carried out an  experiment to see what happens to a person's aura
before and after  receiving enlightenment deekshas, with a few taken
during deeksha.  Fellow deeksha givers and recipients were invited to
take part in this  fun and curious event and the results proved very
interesting.
***snip***
 "The aura photographs shown in this article were taken with an aura
simulation camera that works from the galvanic skin response taken
from the hands. ***The sensor scans and measures the vibrational rate
that the energy field gives out through the meridian points of the
hands. This response is transferred into the camera's computer
component and translated into colours that make up the vibrational
rate.*** This special camera first takes a picture of the person then
superimposes the auric image over the first image. This then becomes
an aura photograph."

--
Have to know a great deal more about 'scans and measures the
vibrational rate' before you can say if these indicate anything about
'deeksha' at all. 

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[FairfieldLife] Wallace Stevens poem about the Self

2006-04-20 Thread feste37



Read this poem by Wallace Stevens and see if it gives you an experience of 
the Self. It does me.  I love all the negations, the realization of nothingness. 
The poem is personal to Stevens but it's universal as well. Isn't that line 
"Today the mind is not part of the weather" the perfect description of the Self? 


A Clear Day and No Memories

No soldiers in the scenery, 
No thoughts of people now dead, 
As they were fifty years ago, 
Young and living in a live air, 
Young and walking in the sunshine, 
Bending in blue dresses to touch something, 
Today the mind is not part of the weather. 

Today the air is clear of everything. 
It has no knowledge except of nothingness 
And it flows over us without meanings, 
As if none of us had ever been here before 
And are not now: in this shallow spectacle, 
This invisible activity, this sense.










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[FairfieldLife] Deeksha Photos!

2006-04-20 Thread Marc Edwards



This was taken from: http://www.deekshas.com/      Aura Photos Taken Before and After Deekshas  Submitted 17 April 2006 by: Maya Adelaide, South Australia   Jennifer  and I are deeksha givers currently living and working in Adelaide,  South Australia. On Saturday 8th of April 2006 we carried out an  experiment to see what happens to a person’s aura before and after  receiving enlightenment deekshas, with a few taken during deeksha.  Fellow deeksha givers and recipients were invited to take part
 in this  fun and curious event and the results proved very interesting.It is my understanding that every human being is surrounded by an  interplay of constantly changing colours know as the aura. Through  techniques such as Kirlian photography and aura imaging this  electromagnetic energy field can be captured on a photograph.The aura is ovoid in shape (egg-shaped) with the largest part around  the head and shoulders and the smallest around the feet. It is made up  of colours that are constantly changing, expanding and contracting with  our incoming and outgoing thoughts and feelings. It is believed that  this energy field reflects our emotions, moods, thoughts and state of  consciousness. It can also have a direct affect on our wellbeing and  the wellbeing of those around to us. Although our aura changes from  moment to moment it does not appear to change dramatically unless there  is a big change in our life or a major shift in
 consciousness.Because deekshas have demonstrated, through many personal experiences,  as having the ability to facilitate major change in our life and raise  our level of consciousness, I was very curious and thus inspired to  conduct this experiement.   The aura photographs shown  in this article were taken with an aura simulation camera that works  from the galvanic skin response taken from the hands. The sensor scans  and measures the vibrational rate that the energy field gives out  through the meridian points of the hands. This response is transferred  into the camera’s computer component and translated into colours that  make up the vibrational rate. This special camera first takes a picture  of the person then superimposes the auric image over the first image.  This then becomes an aura photograph.  The details of the program were as follows:   2.30pm to 3pm, the five deeksha givers and 14 recipients
 arrived at the Torrensville Yoga Studio.  3pm to 4pm individual aura photos were taken of all attendees.  4pm to 5pm Maya leads a chanting and meditation session which is then followed by deekshas.  5pm to 6pm individual aura photos were once again taken of all attendees.  6pm to 6.15pm three recipients each had an additional aura photo taken whilst Maya was giving them enlightenment deeksha.  A sampling of the resulting aura photos follow:     Julia (recipient) had a huge shift after receiving 5 deekshas.  
 In Michael's (recipient)  before photo the line we can see is the top of the screen.     Malcolm  (deeksha giver) is husband to Jacquie (below). The darker patches we  can see in the after photo is the result of the picture still slightly  wet as it was scanned.     Jacquie (recipient) had a powerful transformation.   Sonia (recipient) also had a very powerful transformation.     Interestingly  Bruno (recipient) did not feel
 anything happening to him even after  receiving 5 deekshas. So Bhagavan really cranked up the energy for the  extra deeksha he received from Maya during the taking of the last  photo. After this deeksha Bruno finally said that he felt the energy  entering him and cause his body to vibrate. Three days later Bruno was  still buzzing and feeling VERY happy.    Maya's (deeksha giver) aura clearly reflects the deeksha energy flowing through her being.    
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[FairfieldLife] The neurophenomenology of Francisco Varela

2006-04-20 Thread Vaj


http://www.enolagaia.com/Varela.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Varela"Why do emergent selves, virtual identities, pop up all over the place, creating worlds, whether at the mind/body level, the cellular level, or the transorganism level? This phenomenon is something so productive that it doesn't cease creating entirely new realms: life, mind, and societies. Yet these emergent selves are based on processes so shifty, so ungrounded, that we have an apparent paradox between the solidity of what appears to show up and its groundlessness. That, to me, is the key and eternal question."Francisco, an experimental and theoretical biologist, studied what he termed "emergent selves" or "virtual identities." His was an immanent view of reality, based on metaphors derived from self-organization and Buddhist-inspired epistemology rather than on those derived from engineering and information science. He presented a challenge to the traditional AI view that the world exists independently of the organism, whose task is to make an accurate model of that world — to "consult" before acting. His nonrepresentationalist world — or perhaps "world-as-experienced" — has no independent existence but is itself a product of interactions between organisms and environment. He first became known for his theory of autopoiesis ("self production"), which is concerned with the active self-maintenance of living systems whose identities remain constant while their components continually change. Varela is tough to categorize. He was a neuroscientist who became an immunologist. He was well informed about cognitive science and was a radical critic of it, because he was a believer in "emergence" — not the vitalist idea promulgated in the 1920s (that of a magical property that emerges inexplicably from lower mechanical operations) but the idea that the whole appears as a result of the dynamics of its component parts. He thought that classic computationalist cognitive science is too simplemindedly mechanistic. He was knowledgeable and romantic at the same time.Varela's work continues on with the leading age investigation of consciousness and neurophysiology investigations of the Mind and Life Conferences sponsored and mediated by HH the 14th Dalai Lama."The Mind and Life dialogues between His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Western scientists were brought to life through a collaboration between R. Adam Engle, a North American businessman, and the late Dr. Francisco J. Varela (1946-2001), a Chilean-born neuroscientist living and working in Paris. In 1983, both men independently had the initiative to create a series of cross-cultural meetings between His Holiness and Western scientists."http://www.mindandlife.org/history.html





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[FairfieldLife] Sexagenarians, drugs and rock'n'roll

2006-04-20 Thread TurquoiseB



I guess it's not just the TM movement that seems
as if it's composed of mainly old farts...

Sexagenarians, drugs and rock'n'roll 
Monday March 6, 2006
The Guardian
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1724366,00.html

Once they hoped to die before they got old, but no longer -
sixtysomethings are back at the top of the charts. Tim de Lisle
explains why the wrinklies just keep on rocking.

Mick Jagger and Ray Davies Rocking on: Mick Jagger and Ray Davies,
still performing at 62 and 61, respectively. Photographs: Natacha
Pisarenko/AP and Jo Hale/Getty

Recently Paul McCartney met a man who plays the piano in an old
people's home. "I hope you don't mind," the pianist said, "but I
play some of your songs and the most popular one is When I'm 64." Ah
yes, the sugary music-hall ditty from Sergeant Pepper that people
either love or hate. "But I have to change the title," the man went
on, "because 64 seems young to those people. They don't get it." So
he sings When I'm 84 instead. McCartney sees his point: "If I were
to write it now," he told the Los Angeles Times last month, "I'd
probably call it When I'm 94."

McCartney will be 64 himself in June. He has a young band, a young
producer, a young wife, a small child, and youngish hair; his age
shows only in his jowls, the odd creak in his voice and an air of
gathering urgency, which led him to open the proceedings at Live8 as
well as close them. He still needs us, and he is not alone. There
were three new entries in last week's British album chart, all from
McCartney's contemporaries: Neil Diamond, 65, Dolly Parton, just 60,
and Ray Davies of the Kinks, 61. Welcome to sexagenarian rock'n'roll.

The music business still has its meteors - the Arctic Monkeys are
all under 21, and the new star of British soul, Corinne Bailey Rae,
is 26. But there is a flurry of activity from the elders of the
tribe. David Gilmour of Pink Floyd, 60 today, is celebrating by
releasing a rare solo album. Van Morrison, also 60, releases his
umpteenth CD today. Joan Baez, 65, is touring this week.

The Rolling Stones, 246 between them, are in the middle of another
world tour. Bob Dylan, 64, is forever on the road, though this may
actually be an experiment to establish how badly he can maul his old
songs before his fans walk out. Leonard Cohen, 71, is working on a
new album. (This is the man who, when he took his songs to agents in
New York, was asked, "Aren't you a little old for this game?" He was
32.) BB King, 80, will be here in April for his farewell tour. Not
that farewell necessarily means adieu. Elton John, 58, will play
Britain's sports grounds this summer, possibly forgetting that he
announced his retirement from live performance in 1977.

Then there's the Who. Having somehow survived the death of half
their line-up, decades of dormancy and Pete Townshend's encroaching
deafness, they are still big enough to headline festivals this
summer. The band that hoped they would die before they got old must
increasingly find their own lyrics quoted back at them: "Why don't
you all just f-fade away?"

This question has many answers. Bands play on because they love it,
or they're addicted to the roar of the crowd, or because it's what
they do. Rock is a hybrid form, drawing on blues, country, folk and
gospel: cultures that attach no stigma to seniority. It's only the
final ingredient in the recipe - youth culture - that makes us
surprised to find a person of 60 singing rock songs.

The truth, however, is that music hasn't been ruled by the young for
years now. More than half of all CDs are bought by people over 30;
Mojo, the magazine for the greying fan, outsells NME; even big-
selling young bands settle on a sound that is reactionary (Oasis),
retro (the Kaiser Chiefs) or colossally reassuring (Coldplay).

It used to be assumed that rock was like football or chess, offering
its best players a brief blazing heyday followed by an inevitable
decline. Lately, it has looked more like golf, promising 40-year
careers and only a slow fade. Now it may be shifting again, to
become more like writing or painting. Some stars will burn out,
others will flicker, and a few will shine brighter with age.

What is the formula for rock longevity? Asked how he had managed to
keep going into his 50s, Iggy Pop replied: "I'm not bald, I'm not
fat, and I'm not safe." Many stars manage to adhere to at least two
of these criteria. Strangely few rock singers are bald (has toupee
technology secretly moved on?), and those who are wear a hat, like
Van Morrison, or divert attention with comedy braiding arrangements,
like Keith Richards.

Safety is another matter. Iggy may retain his anarchic energy, but
not many grizzled survivors still have an air of danger. John Cale,
63, is perhaps an exception, having found a new lease of life
playing "dirty-ass rock'n'roll", as he calls it, in sweaty clubs,
almost 40 years after changing the course of rock in his capacity as
the viola player with the Velvet Underground.

Craft

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'll have that with a cup of Katy's urine, please!

2006-04-20 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/20/06 12:01:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In Steve 
  Briggs' book Mirror of Truth (http://pilgrimagetoindia.com/), theotherwise 
  vegetarian Indian family he's visiting makes a pudding of theircow's 
  placenta after it has given birth. So I presume it's an Indiantradition. I 
  don't remember whether or not Steve ate any before realizingwhat it 
  was.

Hmm. a little cardamom and Saffron, some 
sugar!





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[FairfieldLife] No support of Nature!

2006-04-20 Thread cardemaister




A couple of months back sold all my NOK shares!
Well, only had 600 of them, so no big deal!

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'll have that with a cup of Katey's urine, please!

2006-04-20 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/19/06 8:48:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mammals 
  eat the placenta for two basic reasons, 1 is to  stimulatelactation 
  > and nourish a mother who may not be in a position to hunt or  
  grazefor a > while and 2 it helps remove sent of newborn from the 
  area  whichwould attract > predators.+++ The whales 
  and dolphins are more evolved ?

Maybe , but the whales and dolphins can easily swim away from 
the placenta along ocean currents and the water disperses any odor. Where as 
land mammals usually don't move out of an area  for at least a few hours 
after having given birth.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Fairy Tale? was: Forcing people to meditate, wa

2006-04-20 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hughes" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Fairy Tale? was: Forcing 
people to 
> >meditate, wa
> >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:51:20 -
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hughes"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Fairy Tale? was: Forcing
> >people to
> > > >meditate, wa
> > > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:48:27 -
> > > >
> > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hughes"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Why ascribe divine presence to something that doesn't
> > > > > need it?  I think it's much more amazing to think of
> > > > > life as having started from nowhere and reaching this
> > > > > level of complexity unaided.
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't it enough to know that a garden's beautiful
> > > > > without thinking there's fairies at the bottom of
> > > > > it as well?
> > > >
> > > >Well said, dude. I've grown so used to being
> > > >surrounded by theists here that it's really
> > > >refreshing to hear from someone who can even
> > > >*conceive* of a universe that doesn't require
> > > >a deity, and the fact that it would essentially
> > > >be more interesting than a universe that did
> > > >have one.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Shame I'm going away for long weekend and won't know if we've 
got
> > > any converts, perhaps everyone can wait for a week or talk about
> > > something else 'til I get back?
> >
> >I just wrote a long response to your most recent
> >post to me, but Yahoo ate it.  I'll try to put
> >it together again for when you return.
> >
> >FWIW, I'm not a theist.  Actually what I described
> >that Barry is trashing here is deism, not theism.
> >But I'm not even a deist; I was just presenting the
> >deist view as a more abstract and science-compatible
> >alternative to the Creationism notion of a
> >micromanaging deity, which is in conflict with science.
> >
> >Again Barry's confusing "This theory says..." with "What
> >this theory says is true!"  He doesn't seem able to
> >conceive of describing a theory or belief without
> >necessarily believing in it oneself.
> >
> >And for those keeping score, this is the third post
> >of mine Barry has trashed after having sworn three days
> >ago to avoid "commenting on subjects that even a
> >paranoid obsessive might think were about her
> >personally."
> 
> I only glanced at the "feud" thread and so don't know the whole
> story.But are you sure your "History" with Barry isn't clouding 
> your judgement here? I didn't think he was "trashing" your post and 
> maybe the "thiest" bit wasn't directed solely at you, I'm happy for 
> anyone to pitch in, the more the merrier!

If you were tuned in to the history, it would be
obvious.  It's absolutely typical of Barry's
behavior; he's done it countless times in the past.
He makes a stab at disguising what he's doing in an
attempt to give himself "plausible deniability," but
it's quite transparent when you've seen it over and
over again.

Of course anybody's welcome to pitch in.  But if you
follow Barry's posts, you may notice that a great
deal of the time, he doesn't pitch in to discuss ideas
but to trash somebody, as here.

Notice, by the way, the assumption in what he wrote
that theists "cannot conceive" of a universe that
does not require a deity.  Of course they can.  They've
considered it and decided they don't believe it's the
case.

That sort of profound intellectual dishonesty--always
in the service of a putdown--is also typical of Barry.
(Not to mention that he doesn't even know what theism
*is*.)

I could go on, but I'll spare you.  

> Look forward to reading your post when I get back.

And I'll look forward to your comments.

Have a great weekend!










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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Fairy Tale? was: Forcing people to meditate, wa

2006-04-20 Thread Richard Hughes






>From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Fairy Tale? was: Forcing people to 
>meditate, wa
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:54:57 -
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hughes"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > >It looked very much as though the dolphin had gotten
> > >bored and had decided to test the range of the
> > >researcher's hearing.
> > >
> > Wouldn't surprise me, they alter the pitch of their voices to talk
> > to humans as sound travels differently through the air. But I don't
> > know about meditation, wouldn't they sink?
>
>They *sleep*, so why couldn't they meditate?

Apparently they sleep with one half of their brains at a time so they still 
get to take the odd breath, a neat trick I think.
>
>
>
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