[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
> wrote:
> >
> > How do you permanently lose money in a wire transfer?  Is this 
> possible?
> > Someone somewhere knows what really happened with the wire 
> transfer for the 80-81 
> > course and with the Million Dollar Course Money. It would be 
nice 
> to know the truth, and if 
> > we are lucky someone will write about it someday when it feel 
safe 
> to do so.
> 
> 
> I'd love to know:
> 
> 1) where the money went;
> 
> 2) how the people who donated the money feel about it;
> 
> 3) why it's 25 years later and this is the first I've 
> heard about it.

The answer to the last question is the easiest to
deal with. You didn't hear about it until now because
you didn't want to. In another 25 years you'll be 
ready to hear the truth about global warming.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> 
> You are, of course, right and doing anything other than what you're 
> doing is inviting trouble as well as bad karma.
> 
> I just couldn't help making the "Godfather II" reference...
>

My banking rep is still confused last time I checked. She corrected the problem once already 
and then it suddenly came back.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
> > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they 
> > are 
> > > > run by
> > > > > > > brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get 
> > the 
> > > > idea).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You ought to read the article.  A great deal of the
> > > > > > irregularities did not even involve the voting machines.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and 
> there is
> > > > > potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so 
> > they 
> > > > > need to be taken care of ASAP.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, of course they do.  The point is there are very
> > > > many more things that need to be taken care of as well,
> > > > most of it low-tech.
> > > > 
> > > > > Failure to do so, 
> > > > > only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things 
> > also, 
> > > > > IMHO.
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a 
> chance?
> > 
> > And that's a really silly question to ask.
> >
> 
> No, actually, it's the most pertinent question yet.
> 
> Especially in light of the Democrats' long history of both election 
> rigging and gerrymandering.
>

Both sides are guilty of just about anything you can mention. The side that is in power 
gets to do the most abuses, however.

Bit of trivia: gerrymandering is named in honor of a Democratic ("Democratic"-Republican) 
governor who created a salaMANDER-like district to support his slate of candidates.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Last week's caption entries

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
>  [http://www.newyorker.com/images/online/060529onca_contest_p198.jpg]
> Drawing / MICHAEL CRAWFORD   "I told you there'd be logistical snags
> putting on Melville in the Park."   ...and...   "Honey, next year I
> think I'll pass on the Nantucket Sleighride Reinactment offer."
>

For some reason the graphic didn't come out.  For those that want to 
see the drawing, it's contest #52 at:
http://www.newyorker.com/captioncontest









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Swami Sivananda defines CC

2006-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> >
> > So you're pretty safe IMO in naming anything
> > as a possible attribute of enlightenment, but
> > the minute you do, the mind starts excluding
> > the attributes you didn't name, or the ones
> > you consider opposites of the ones you did. 
> > I think that's the reason some teachers refused 
> > to ever get into the "name game" and propose 
> > such "lists."
> >
> Not necessarily. If the mind is the entity trying to 
> choose attributes of enlightenment, then it will fail 
> every time.

Exactly. Which is why I agree with Buddha and 
the other teachers who never get into the "name
game" and pinpoint "attributes." They are not
doing their students a favor when they do so.
They are, in fact, contributing to their 
ignorance.

> Enlightenment is that feeling all of us have had where 
> we're just 'in the flow', effortless, and it either 
> lasts as short, intermittent experiences of 'being in 
> the flow', or longer times, or a constant, fully 
> intergrated with 'chop wood, carry water'.

While I agree with the spirit of what you say,
as usual you have oversimplified things. You list
only two possibilities, when there are billions.












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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread Robert Gimbel



 
> > > > And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been 
> talking 
> > > about 
> > > > today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in 
> the 
> > > > Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi 
> have 
> > been 
> > > > having an affair.
> > >http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063
> > > >
> >  
> > > 
> > > Oh, that's precious.
> > > 
> > > Of course, up to about a week ago Condi's greatest fan has been 
> > Laura 
> > > who has been touting her more than ever for becoming the 
> Republican 
> > > candidate for president in 2008...
> > > 
> > > 
> > Yes, but Condellezza said, that she definitely did NOT want to be 
> > Pres.. > On the other hand, she did have a 'Fruedian Slip', in 
which she 
> > characterized herself as the President's wife/International 
> > Representative..Secretary of State...Wonder Woman, with really 
> nice 
> > legs...
> > So...
> 
 Name me just ONE person who eventually became either President or a 
> candidate for PResident who, at this stage in the ballgame, 
admitted 
> to wanting to become President.

One shining example I can think of is: Ronald Reagan- seems he was 
running for President forever...
> 
> Not Hillary, for example...
> 
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Last week's caption entries

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk




Drawing / MICHAEL CRAWFORD
 
"I told you there'd be logistical snags putting on Melville in the Park."
 
...and...
 
"Honey, next year I think I'll pass on the Nantucket Sleighride Reinactment offer."






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[FairfieldLife] My caption contest entries

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk




As I've mentioned here on this forum before, I often enter the New Yorker's weekly online caption contest where they supply the drawing and you supply the caption.  They only let you enter once but I usually have more than one idea so I often use a friend's name and email address to enter.
Anyway, for those that are interested, my two entries for the above drawing are:
"You and your damned metamorphosis.  Last night your pupa gave me a full body chafe.  Tonight, I'm on top."
...and...
"I'm post-menopausal.  You're in the throes of metamorphosis.  And George Bush can't balance the budget."
 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore: a chip off the old block

2006-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> shempmcgurk wrote:
> 
> > Al Gore's father, Al Senior, was an old school racist who 
> > supported Jim Crow and segregation and, of course, voted 
> > against the 1964 Civil Rights Act like most of his fellow 
> > Southern Democrats.  In his private life, Gore practised 
> > what he preached as well.
> >
> > So Senior used the fear-mongering inherent in his chosen 
> > philosophy of racism and segregation to keep African-
> > Americans in their place.
> >
> > Junior uses the fear-mongering of the-sky-is-falling global
> > warming to put fear in everyone.
> >
> > The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
> 
> And Al's film opens today in the SF Bay area. I'm going to 
> take it in next week at the local Cinearts.
> 
> I suppose Shemp would have to be up to his ears in pollution
> before he'd admit to the effects of global warming and may 
> not even then!
> :)

The problem with America is the *same* problem we
have all discussed ad nauseum here with regard to
the TM movement. People are much more attached to
their fantasies of things than they are to the
reality. They want to believe in the myth of the
TM movement, and deny for years or decades the
things about it that they don't want to see. 

It's the same with voting irregularities, and the
loss of civil rights, and the rigging of elections.
Americans are *attached* to their myth, in a way
that the people of most other countries are not.
They simply cannot bring themselves to admit that
many of the mythical qualities of "America the
Beautiful" that they were brought up with are 
simply not true. So they just put their intellects
on cruise control and hope for the best, while
people who have no such illusions *take advantage*
of the myths to control them.

Global warming *will* have to get so bad that the
people are up to their asses in garbage before
anyone really does anything about it. That is the
nature of the beast. Elections will continue to
be stolen until in one of them a Republican corpse 
is elected instead of a live Democrat. People are
just *not* going to stop believing in the myths
that sustain them. They will believe in them 
despite any evidence.

I really don't know how all of this is going to
turn out, but...duh...that's one of the main 
reasons I live in France and not the US. The
place is in for some very hard times, and its
citizenry is so locked into cult myth-think
that they're really not about to get off their
butts and DO something about it. To do so means
that they have to admit that the myths are not
true, and I think that we've all seen how likely
that is, just by watching the vagaries of the
TM movement.

 









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" 
 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you permanently lose money in a wire transfer?  Is 
this 
> > > > possible?
> > > > > Someone somewhere knows what really happened with the wire 
> > > > transfer for the 80-81 
> > > > > course and with the Million Dollar Course Money. It would 
be 
> > nice 
> > > > to know the truth, and if 
> > > > > we are lucky someone will write about it someday when it 
feel 
> > safe 
> > > > to do so.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'd love to know:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) where the money went;
> > > > 
> > > > 2) how the people who donated the money feel about it;
> > > > 
> > > > 3) why it's 25 years later and this is the first I've heard 
> > about it.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > There was a footnote in the Maharishi  entry that said that 
there 
> > was an accounting error 
> > > of $1million or so due to miscommunication between one office 
and 
> > another...
> > > 
> > > Fast bookkeeping, incompetence, or Just What Happens?
> > > 
> > > I've been getting $400 per month from some unknown (to me) 
account 
> > for several months. 
> > > The money is transfered BACK to that account the next day, but 
the 
> > transactions are still 
> > > ongoing..
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Dip your beak.
> >
> 
> Er, how could I? It's there, then its gone. I supppose that if the 
bank attempts to withdraw 
> more money than is in the account, THEY could get in trouble too, 
but I'd rather just not 
> see this fun little +400 -400 entry show up. Looks confusing.
>

You are, of course, right and doing anything other than what you're 
doing is inviting trouble as well as bad karma.

I just couldn't help making the "Godfather II" reference...










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How do you permanently lose money in a wire transfer?  Is this 
> > > possible?
> > > > Someone somewhere knows what really happened with the wire 
> > > transfer for the 80-81 
> > > > course and with the Million Dollar Course Money. It would be 
> nice 
> > > to know the truth, and if 
> > > > we are lucky someone will write about it someday when it feel 
> safe 
> > > to do so.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'd love to know:
> > > 
> > > 1) where the money went;
> > > 
> > > 2) how the people who donated the money feel about it;
> > > 
> > > 3) why it's 25 years later and this is the first I've heard 
> about it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > There was a footnote in the Maharishi  entry that said that there 
> was an accounting error 
> > of $1million or so due to miscommunication between one office and 
> another...
> > 
> > Fast bookkeeping, incompetence, or Just What Happens?
> > 
> > I've been getting $400 per month from some unknown (to me) account 
> for several months. 
> > The money is transfered BACK to that account the next day, but the 
> transactions are still 
> > ongoing..
> >
> 
> 
> Dip your beak.
>

Er, how could I? It's there, then its gone. I supppose that if the bank attempts to withdraw 
more money than is in the account, THEY could get in trouble too, but I'd rather just not 
see this fun little +400 -400 entry show up. Looks confusing.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they 
> are 
> > > run by
> > > > > > brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get 
> the 
> > > idea).
> > > > > 
> > > > > You ought to read the article.  A great deal of the
> > > > > irregularities did not even involve the voting machines.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and 
there is
> > > > potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so 
> they 
> > > > need to be taken care of ASAP.
> > > 
> > > Well, of course they do.  The point is there are very
> > > many more things that need to be taken care of as well,
> > > most of it low-tech.
> > > 
> > > > Failure to do so, 
> > > > only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things 
> also, 
> > > > IMHO.
> > > 
> > > Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson.
> > >
> > 
> > You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a 
chance?
> 
> And that's a really silly question to ask.
>

No, actually, it's the most pertinent question yet.

Especially in light of the Democrats' long history of both election 
rigging and gerrymandering.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" 
 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and 
they 
> > are 
> > > > run by
> > > > > > > brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you 
get 
> > the 
> > > > idea).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You ought to read the article.  A great deal of the
> > > > > > irregularities did not even involve the voting machines.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and 
there is
> > > > > potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, 
so 
> > they 
> > > > > need to be taken care of ASAP.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, of course they do.  The point is there are very
> > > > many more things that need to be taken care of as well,
> > > > most of it low-tech.
> > > > 
> > > > > Failure to do so, 
> > > > > only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit 
things 
> > also, 
> > > > > IMHO.
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a 
chance?
> > 
> > And that's a really silly question to ask.
> >
> 
> Color me silly.
>

Color him Barbra.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > How do you permanently lose money in a wire transfer?  Is this 
> > possible?
> > > Someone somewhere knows what really happened with the wire 
> > transfer for the 80-81 
> > > course and with the Million Dollar Course Money. It would be 
nice 
> > to know the truth, and if 
> > > we are lucky someone will write about it someday when it feel 
safe 
> > to do so.
> > 
> > 
> > I'd love to know:
> > 
> > 1) where the money went;
> > 
> > 2) how the people who donated the money feel about it;
> > 
> > 3) why it's 25 years later and this is the first I've heard 
about it.
> > 
> > 
> 
> There was a footnote in the Maharishi  entry that said that there 
was an accounting error 
> of $1million or so due to miscommunication between one office and 
another...
> 
> Fast bookkeeping, incompetence, or Just What Happens?
> 
> I've been getting $400 per month from some unknown (to me) account 
for several months. 
> The money is transfered BACK to that account the next day, but the 
transactions are still 
> ongoing..
>


Dip your beak.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been 
talking 
> > about 
> > > today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in 
the 
> > > Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi 
have 
> been 
> > > having an affair.
> >http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063
> > >
>  
> > 
> > Oh, that's precious.
> > 
> > Of course, up to about a week ago Condi's greatest fan has been 
> Laura 
> > who has been touting her more than ever for becoming the 
Republican 
> > candidate for president in 2008...
> > 
> > 
> Yes, but Condellezza said, that she definitely did NOT want to be 
> Pres..


Name me just ONE person who eventually became either President or a 
candidate for PResident who, at this stage in the ballgame, admitted 
to wanting to become President.

Not Hillary, for example...



> On the other hand, she did have a 'Fruedian Slip', in which she 
> characterized herself as the President's wife/International 
> Representative..Secretary of State...Wonder Woman, with really 
nice 
> legs...
> So...
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rollingstone article

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wolf Blitzer just broadcast the Rollingstone voting article 
> > > > > > on CNN.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I guess that shoots to hell Bhairitu's claim that the so-
> > > > > called mainstream media is ignoring it.
> > > > 
> > > > Up until now.
> > > 
> > > It only came out yesterday, Lawson.
> > 
> > The Rolling Stone article yes. The situation has been around for
> > quite some time, however, has it not?
> 
> Yes, Lawson.  But Bhairitu was referring to the RFK
> article specifically.
>

Which, by analogy is an article about the ongoing situation. The ongoing situation hasn't 
been getting much press, IMHO, because it isn't sexy enough.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been talking 
about 
> > today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in the 
> > Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi have 
been 
> > having an affair.  Guess George didn't learn anything from Bill 
and I 
> > guess if Bill could get impeached..  well you get it.
> > 
> > http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063
> 
> You think this is a credible report, Bhairitu?
>

Your fellow Lefties, Billie, are giving credibility to stories as 
weird and as wacky as the worst Bill Clinton rumours that you're 
always claiming right-wing nut jobs are promoting.

Are you as outraged here, Billie?










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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they 
> are 
> > > run by
> > > > > > brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get 
> the 
> > > idea).
> > > > > 
> > > > > You ought to read the article.  A great deal of the
> > > > > irregularities did not even involve the voting machines.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is
> > > > potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so 
> they 
> > > > need to be taken care of ASAP.
> > > 
> > > Well, of course they do.  The point is there are very
> > > many more things that need to be taken care of as well,
> > > most of it low-tech.
> > > 
> > > > Failure to do so, 
> > > > only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things 
> also, 
> > > > IMHO.
> > > 
> > > Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson.
> > >
> > 
> > You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a chance?
> 
> And that's a really silly question to ask.
>

Color me silly.












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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
> wrote:
> >
> > How do you permanently lose money in a wire transfer?  Is this 
> possible?
> > Someone somewhere knows what really happened with the wire 
> transfer for the 80-81 
> > course and with the Million Dollar Course Money. It would be nice 
> to know the truth, and if 
> > we are lucky someone will write about it someday when it feel safe 
> to do so.
> 
> 
> I'd love to know:
> 
> 1) where the money went;
> 
> 2) how the people who donated the money feel about it;
> 
> 3) why it's 25 years later and this is the first I've heard about it.
> 
> 

There was a footnote in the Maharishi  entry that said that there was an accounting error 
of $1million or so due to miscommunication between one office and another...

Fast bookkeeping, incompetence, or Just What Happens?

I've been getting $400 per month from some unknown (to me) account for several months. 
The money is transfered BACK to that account the next day, but the transactions are still 
ongoing..










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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Report Last Week: Shots Fired In D.C.

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  
wrote:
> > > > TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >At the same time, I've just watched "V for Vendetta"
> > > > >again, and couldn't help but smile at the fake News
> > > > >broadcasts that the government used to control the
> > > > >people.
> > > >
> > > > Must be a torrent. ;-)  Yup, I did a search and the 
> > > > torrents are there already.  Is it a screener DVD 
> > > > (which they send to video stores)?   
> > > 
> > > I don't know the source, but it's the whole film.
> > > I saw it originally in French, and wanted to hear
> > > the at-times-overly-wordy dialogue in its original
> > > English.
> > > 
> > > > The actual DVD is scheduled for August 1st and there 
> > > > is a two disk collectors edition too.
> > > 
> > > It's far from a great film, but it's certainly
> > > interesting, and it certainly captures a certain
> > > aspect of the times we live in and what may have
> > > to be done to have done with them. In an era in
> > > which elections are stolen and votes are not
> > > counted, it may well be past "vote the bastids 
> > > out" time and may be verging on "throw them out
> > > using any method that works" time.
> > 
> > I'm fascinated that you like this film, Barry, because its 
> > philosophy is SO very NRAish and pro-individual and anti-
> > government.  
> 
> Not to mention simplistic and pompous. Dude,
> it was based on a comic book. :-) 
> 
> > Big hit on libertarian and anarcho-capitalist websites.
> 
> I like it because it's one of the only films
> that has portrayed government the way it pretty
> much really *is* these days, as a dictatorship
> still posing as a democracy. I'm afraid it's
> going to take Americans a couple of more mock
> elections to realize that the elections are not
> having any effect and the same people are still 
> ruling them.
>

Well, if you're a Democrat you should LIKE what the Republicans have 
been doing because they've been acting like classic Democrats: tax, 
spend, increase government programs.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread Robert Gimbel



 
 
> > >
> > > And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been talking 
> > about 
> > > today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in 
the 
> > > Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi have 
> been 
> > > having an affair.
> >http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063
> > >
>  
> > 
> > Oh, that's precious.
> > 
> > Of course, up to about a week ago Condi's greatest fan has been 
> Laura 
> > who has been touting her more than ever for becoming the 
Republican 
> > candidate for president in 2008...
> > 
> > 
> Yes, but Condellezza said, that she definitely did NOT want to be 
> Pres..
> On the other hand, she did have a 'Fruedian Slip', in which she 
> characterized herself as the President's wife/International 
> Representative..Secretary of State...Wonder Woman, with really nice 
> legs...
> So...

>From what I've heard: "What Condellezza wants, Condellezza gets."
>











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 6/2/06 11:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > http://atgdata.fdncenter.org/990search/search.php
> > 
> > if you enter the word "Maharishi" in the search function at the URL
> > above, it lists a bunch of TM nonprofits' tax returns, and it shows
> > the Global Country had assets of $214 million as of 2003
> 
> So the Kaplans measly $16 million could not have had a make or break
> influence on the pundits' future.
>

Actually, Statement 5 lists the lions share of expenses, including 15 million paid to the 
Brahmanada Saraswati Trust in the Channel Islands. The fund looks like a mortgage with 5% 
interest.

If they couldn't make their mortgage without dipping into capital, that would be a show-
stopper, for sure.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rollingstone article

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Wolf Blitzer just broadcast the Rollingstone voting 
article on 
> > CNN.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I guess that shoots to hell Bhairitu's claim that the so-
called 
> > > > mainstream media is ignoring it.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Up until now.
> > 
> > It only came out yesterday, Lawson.
> > 
> 
> The Rolling Stone article yes. The situation has been around for 
quite some time, however, 
> has it not?


I heard about it at least as early as a month after the 
election...so that would be around December 2004.




> 
> > 
> > 
> >  If a news article appears in the MSM that lists the "top 50 
most-
> > ignored stories 
> > > of the year" does that mean the MSM is now covering those 
stories?
> > >
> >
>











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  
> wrote:
> >
> > on 6/2/06 11:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> > 
> > > http://atgdata.fdncenter.org/990search/search.php
> > > 
> > > if you enter the word "Maharishi" in the search function at 
the URL
> > > above, it lists a bunch of TM nonprofits' tax returns, and it 
shows
> > > the Global Country had assets of $214 million as of 2003
> > 
> 
> 
> > So the Kaplans measly $16 million could not have had a make or 
break
> > influence on the pundits' future.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Assets does not necessarily mean cash in the bank, I would guess. 
> Maharishi University is listed as having $42 million in assets, 
but 
> it's doubtful the school has that much cash -- it probably means 
the 
> value of campus land and bldgs -- so the fact that the global 
country 
> has $214 mil in assets probably also includes holdings like 
Livingston 
> Manor and so on,




And assets like buildings are listed under their DEPRECIATED value, 
not their fair market value...and fair market value is almost always 
exponentially more.

Land I believe is listed at cost value (I don't think you can 
depreciate land) and that, again, is going to have a fair market 
value almost always more than the book value.







> in addition to cash and investments -- also not all 
> the cash on hand and investments are directed toward the pundits 
in 
> India, so the Kaplans 16 mil was probably critical in maintaining 
the 
> pundit facilities there:
> 
> 
>   http://atgdata.fdncenter.org/990search/search.php
> Your query: ( Organization Name: maharishi , State: None Chosen , 
Zip: 
> None Chosen , EIN: None Chosen )
> 30 documents matched. 30 documents displayed. 
> Organization Name State Year Total Assets Form Pages EIN 
> Maharishi Ayurveda Foundation  MA  2003 $2,627,267 990  29  04-
> 2970084  
> Maharishi Ayurveda Foundation  NH  2002 $2,544,237 990  28  04-
> 2970084  
> Maharishi Global Adm Through  CA  2002 $6,305 990EZ  11  33-
0770605  
> Maharishi Global Admin Through Natural Law  NC  2003 $8,673,624 
990  
> 47  95-2485909  
> Maharishi Global Admin Through Natural Law  IA  2002 $10,223,057 
990  
> 41  95-2485909  
> Maharishi Global Administration Through Natural Law - Tzc 9  IA  
2003 
> $18,064 990EZ  11  56-2039137  
> Maharishi Global Administration Through Natural Law -Tzc9  IA  
2004 $0 
> 990EZ  12  56-2039137  
> Maharishi Global Development Fund  IA  2003 $214,497,987 990  40  
52-
> 2052522  
> Maharishi Global Development Fund  IA  2002 $223,299,797 990  20  
52-
> 2052522  
> Maharishi Global Development Fund  IA  2001 $225,980,713 990  27  
52-
> 2052522  
> Maharishi Purusha Program  NC  2004 $2,084,467 990  31  56-
1824160  
> Maharishi Purusha Program  NC  2003 $1,032,073 990  34  56-
1824160  
> Maharishi Spiritual Center of America  NC  2002 $66,368,132 990  
38  
> 56-1886588  
> Maharishi Spiritual University  IA  2004 $171,576 990  20  56-
2352541  
> Maharishi Spiritual University  IA  2003 $135,588 990  18  56-
2352541  
> Maharishi Spiritual University of American  NC  2002 $285,399 990  
20  
> 56-2068614  
> Maharishi University of Enlightenme  NC  2003 $244,607 990  22  56-
> 2068614  
> 
>   Assets
> Maharishi University of Management  IA  2003 $42,728,126 
> 
> 990  23  42-1315493  
> Maharishi University of Management  IA  2002 $42,385,718 990  24  
42-
> 1315493
> 
>   
> Maharishi University of Management Foundation Inc.  IA  2003 
$377,406 
> 990  15  39-1896290
>   Maharishi University of Management Foundation Inc.  IA  2002 
> $479,469 990  16  39-1896290  
> Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corp.  IA  2003 $3,608,993 
990  
> 30  04-3196447  
> Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corp.  IA  2002 $3,971,073 
990  
> 38  04-3196447  
> Maharishi Vedic Foundation  NH  2003 $374,808 990  27  04-3351250  
> Maharishi Vedic Foundation  NH  2002 $2,210,842 990  24  04-
3351250  
> Maharishi Vedic Organic Agri Institute  WY  2003 $30,448 990  14  
56-
> 2224105  
> Maharishi Vedic Organic Agricultural Institute  WY  2002 $15,514 
990  
> 15  56-2224105  
> Maharishi Vedic University and Maharishi Ayur Ved University  IA  
2003 
> $10,341,424 990  44  91-1963115  
> Maharishi Vedic University and Maharishi Ayur Ved University  IA  
2002 
> $10,601,538 990  30  91-1963115  
> World Plan Executive Council United Maharishi Vedic Center-
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread Robert Gimbel



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been talking 
> about 
> > today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in the 
> > Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi have 
been 
> > having an affair.
>http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063
> >
 
> 
> Oh, that's precious.
> 
> Of course, up to about a week ago Condi's greatest fan has been 
Laura 
> who has been touting her more than ever for becoming the Republican 
> candidate for president in 2008...
> 
> 
Yes, but Condellezza said, that she definitely did NOT want to be 
Pres..
On the other hand, she did have a 'Fruedian Slip', in which she 
characterized herself as the President's wife/International 
Representative..Secretary of State...Wonder Woman, with really nice 
legs...
So...









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> on 6/2/06 11:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > http://atgdata.fdncenter.org/990search/search.php
> > 
> > if you enter the word "Maharishi" in the search function at the URL
> > above, it lists a bunch of TM nonprofits' tax returns, and it shows
> > the Global Country had assets of $214 million as of 2003
> 
> So the Kaplans measly $16 million could not have had a make or break
> influence on the pundits' future.
>

At this stage in our discussions it is encumbent to identify WHICH 
Kaplans we're talking about...I assume you mean David and Earl vs. 
Harris and Arlene?










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been talking about 
> today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in the 
> Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi have been 
> having an affair.  Guess George didn't learn anything from Bill and I 
> guess if Bill could get impeached..  well you get it.
> 
> http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063

You think this is a credible report, Bhairitu?











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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Report Last Week: Shots Fired In D.C.

2006-06-02 Thread TurquoiseB



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > 
> > > >At the same time, I've just watched "V for Vendetta"
> > > >again, and couldn't help but smile at the fake News
> > > >broadcasts that the government used to control the
> > > >people.
> > >
> > > Must be a torrent. ;-)  Yup, I did a search and the 
> > > torrents are there already.  Is it a screener DVD 
> > > (which they send to video stores)?   
> > 
> > I don't know the source, but it's the whole film.
> > I saw it originally in French, and wanted to hear
> > the at-times-overly-wordy dialogue in its original
> > English.
> > 
> > > The actual DVD is scheduled for August 1st and there 
> > > is a two disk collectors edition too.
> > 
> > It's far from a great film, but it's certainly
> > interesting, and it certainly captures a certain
> > aspect of the times we live in and what may have
> > to be done to have done with them. In an era in
> > which elections are stolen and votes are not
> > counted, it may well be past "vote the bastids 
> > out" time and may be verging on "throw them out
> > using any method that works" time.
> 
> I'm fascinated that you like this film, Barry, because its 
> philosophy is SO very NRAish and pro-individual and anti-
> government.  

Not to mention simplistic and pompous. Dude,
it was based on a comic book. :-) 

> Big hit on libertarian and anarcho-capitalist websites.

I like it because it's one of the only films
that has portrayed government the way it pretty
much really *is* these days, as a dictatorship
still posing as a democracy. I'm afraid it's
going to take Americans a couple of more mock
elections to realize that the elections are not
having any effect and the same people are still 
ruling them.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Then, about half of that was lost in the market - bad 
investments 
> > > > at
> > > > > a rough time in the stock market." 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is is just me who is skeptical of this?  I don't know how 
such a 
> > > > claim
> > > > > would be verified.  I remember when the money being wired 
over to
> > > > > India was supposedly stolen, so we all ended up living in 
Tents
> > > > > instead of in hotels.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Could you elaborate on this?
> > > > 
> > > > When did this happen and what were the circumstances?
> > > 
> > > The information was given to me when I questioned a fulltime 
teacher at the time who 
> > was 
> > > in a position to know.  I believe the info is reliable.  I do 
not know the details, but I 
> recall 
> > > being told that of the amount invested, about half was lost, 
leaving a lot less than 
> > > expected.  I think this all occurred around 2001-2002, but it 
was during the year 
> > following 
> > > the Big Million Dollar Course.
> > 
> > Additional clarification: all this about the loss of the money 
and the yagyas was waht I 
> was 
> > told when I asked where all the money had gone.  This teacher 
was telling me what they 
> > had heard from international about the pundiit project and 
money.  But I agree, it is 
> more 
> > likely that the money was "lost" to graft and relatives rather 
than the stock market.  Of 
> > course, the yagya story is all baloney, since the TMO would not 
pay millions in advance 
> to 
> > jyotishi to do ygayas for the next 40 years for people.
> >
> 
> Dont' know about yagyas but a LOT of people lost their shirts 
during the dotcom bust.
>

Most who lost their shirts were people who MADE incredible paper 
profits on stocks that increased in value at a rediculous rates.  
Sure, some people most certainly invested original dollars in these 
dot.com's when the price was high and then saw it go down to almost 
nothing, but, hey, they were trying to make a quick buck, took a 
chance and lost.  tough shit.  If you can't stand the heat, get out 
of the kitchen.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
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>
> on 6/2/06 7:31 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > How do you permanently lose money in a wire transfer?  Is this 
possible?
> > Someone somewhere knows what really happened with the wire 
transfer for the
> > 80-81 
> > course and with the Million Dollar Course Money. It would be 
nice to know the
> > truth, and if 
> > we are lucky someone will write about it someday when it feel 
safe to do so.
> 
> Probably the only ones who could tell the story are the ones who 
took the
> money.
>

Were the authorities contacted and, if not, WHY NOT??










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[FairfieldLife] Re: I object to this subject line: How Bush stole two elections

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- shempmcgurk wrote:
> >
> >  
> > A $2.8 trillion budget???  This is simply horrific.
> 
> What frightens me is, for all we're borrowing, we're 
> not any more safe or prosperous than we are.



I don't believe it's a function of the borrowing but I certainly 
think we're both more safer and prosperous.

Most economic indicators are incredibly strong.

Safety: no one has attacked us since 9/11.  Bush's response was 
perfect: he attacked Afghanistan and then he attacked Iraq.  Now the 
evil ones know that, justified or not, the USA will attack anyone 
with the slightest hint of responsibility for hitting the USA.  

And this is the ONLY language that bullies understand.

Bush deserves only kudos for this.

However, his spending is horrific and his other policies are, too.





> 
> It must horrify the Republicans. You'd think for all 
> the propping up that's going on, they wouldn't have 
> to be worried about the coming mid-term elections. 
> If you can't buy a happy electorate for a trillion 
> dollars, what's it going to take?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rollingstone article

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Wolf Blitzer just broadcast the Rollingstone voting article 
> > > > > on CNN.
> > > > 
> > > > I guess that shoots to hell Bhairitu's claim that the so-
> > > > called mainstream media is ignoring it.
> > > 
> > > Up until now.
> > 
> > It only came out yesterday, Lawson.
> 
> The Rolling Stone article yes. The situation has been around for
> quite some time, however, has it not?

Yes, Lawson.  But Bhairitu was referring to the RFK
article specifically.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been talking 
about 
> today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in the 
> Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi have been 
> having an affair.


Oh, that's precious.

Of course, up to about a week ago Condi's greatest fan has been Laura 
who has been touting her more than ever for becoming the Republican 
candidate for president in 2008...






>  Guess George didn't learn anything from Bill and I 
> guess if Bill could get impeached..  well you get it.
> 
> http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  
wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they 
are 
> > run by
> > > > > brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get 
the 
> > idea).
> > > > 
> > > > You ought to read the article.  A great deal of the
> > > > irregularities did not even involve the voting machines.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is
> > > potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so 
they 
> > > need to be taken care of ASAP.
> > 
> > Well, of course they do.  The point is there are very
> > many more things that need to be taken care of as well,
> > most of it low-tech.
> > 
> > > Failure to do so, 
> > > only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things 
also, 
> > > IMHO.
> > 
> > Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson.
> >
> 
> You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a chance?

And that's a really silly question to ask.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Evil Mr. Sun is responsible for global warming

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> >on 6/2/06 7:05 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > One burp, one insignificant 3 second fart from the sun equals 
about
> > > 1,000 years of burning fossil fuels on planet Earth at current
> > > consumption levels.
> >
> >Yeah, but that burp takes place on the sun, not here.
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> I think McGurk sees himself as the FFL Bart Simpson with a little 
of 
> Cartman thrown in.
>

I know neither of these characters so I can't comment other than to 
say they must be wonderful people...










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> How do you permanently lose money in a wire transfer?  Is this 
possible?
> Someone somewhere knows what really happened with the wire 
transfer for the 80-81 
> course and with the Million Dollar Course Money. It would be nice 
to know the truth, and if 
> we are lucky someone will write about it someday when it feel safe 
to do so.


I'd love to know:

1) where the money went;

2) how the people who donated the money feel about it;

3) why it's 25 years later and this is the first I've heard about it.



> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
 wrote:
> >
> > As I remember it $500,000 had been donated to pay for our hotels 
in
> > India on the India course, 1980-81 right?  I remember that the 
money
> > came from the TM teacher oil speculators who were making a 
killing at
> > the time, Angus Hunt is the only name I remember. 
> > The money was supposed to have been lost in a wire transfer to 
India
> > which resulted in everyone being kicked out of hotels and put up 
in
> > the tent city of NOIDA.  Perhaps someone else remembers the 
details. 
> > I bought the story that it was just "lost in the transfer" at the
> > time, but this last post about a large sum being lost in the 
stock
> > market made me wonder.  I am just speculating.  Maybe both are
> > legitimate.  It just seems like a hard thing to prove either way 
which
> > puts a lot of cash up for grabs.  It was the course participants 
who
> > were hurt by the loss, not the movement.
>










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[FairfieldLife] Re: More on Armstrong, with a word from Einstein

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDOgYw5-pNs&search=brubec

I think you'll get a kick out of this, Curtis.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Evil Mr. Sun is responsible for global warming

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>
> on 6/2/06 7:05 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > One burp, one insignificant 3 second fart from the sun equals about
> > 1,000 years of burning fossil fuels on planet Earth at current
> > consumption levels.
> 
> Yeah, but that burp takes place on the sun, not here.
>

...but it's these flairs that affect life here on earth.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rollingstone article

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wolf Blitzer just broadcast the Rollingstone voting article on 
> CNN.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > I guess that shoots to hell Bhairitu's claim that the so-called 
> > > mainstream media is ignoring it.
> > >
> > 
> > Up until now.
> 
> It only came out yesterday, Lawson.
> 

The Rolling Stone article yes. The situation has been around for quite some time, however, 
has it not?

> 
> 
>  If a news article appears in the MSM that lists the "top 50 most-
> ignored stories 
> > of the year" does that mean the MSM is now covering those stories?
> >
>











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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are 
> run by
> > > > brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the 
> idea).
> > > 
> > > You ought to read the article.  A great deal of the
> > > irregularities did not even involve the voting machines.
> > >
> > 
> > No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is
> > potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they 
> > need to be taken care of ASAP.
> 
> Well, of course they do.  The point is there are very
> many more things that need to be taken care of as well,
> most of it low-tech.
> 
> > Failure to do so, 
> > only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, 
> > IMHO.
> 
> Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson.
>

You don't think Democrats won't do the same thing, given a chance?











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread bob_brigante



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> on 6/2/06 11:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > http://atgdata.fdncenter.org/990search/search.php
> > 
> > if you enter the word "Maharishi" in the search function at the URL
> > above, it lists a bunch of TM nonprofits' tax returns, and it shows
> > the Global Country had assets of $214 million as of 2003
> 


> So the Kaplans measly $16 million could not have had a make or break
> influence on the pundits' future.
>



Assets does not necessarily mean cash in the bank, I would guess. 
Maharishi University is listed as having $42 million in assets, but 
it's doubtful the school has that much cash -- it probably means the 
value of campus land and bldgs -- so the fact that the global country 
has $214 mil in assets probably also includes holdings like Livingston 
Manor and so on, in addition to cash and investments -- also not all 
the cash on hand and investments are directed toward the pundits in 
India, so the Kaplans 16 mil was probably critical in maintaining the 
pundit facilities there:


  http://atgdata.fdncenter.org/990search/search.php
Your query: ( Organization Name: maharishi , State: None Chosen , Zip: 
None Chosen , EIN: None Chosen )
30 documents matched. 30 documents displayed. 
Organization Name State Year Total Assets Form Pages EIN 
Maharishi Ayurveda Foundation  MA  2003 $2,627,267 990  29  04-
2970084  
Maharishi Ayurveda Foundation  NH  2002 $2,544,237 990  28  04-
2970084  
Maharishi Global Adm Through  CA  2002 $6,305 990EZ  11  33-0770605  
Maharishi Global Admin Through Natural Law  NC  2003 $8,673,624 990  
47  95-2485909  
Maharishi Global Admin Through Natural Law  IA  2002 $10,223,057 990  
41  95-2485909  
Maharishi Global Administration Through Natural Law - Tzc 9  IA  2003 
$18,064 990EZ  11  56-2039137  
Maharishi Global Administration Through Natural Law -Tzc9  IA  2004 $0 
990EZ  12  56-2039137  
Maharishi Global Development Fund  IA  2003 $214,497,987 990  40  52-
2052522  
Maharishi Global Development Fund  IA  2002 $223,299,797 990  20  52-
2052522  
Maharishi Global Development Fund  IA  2001 $225,980,713 990  27  52-
2052522  
Maharishi Purusha Program  NC  2004 $2,084,467 990  31  56-1824160  
Maharishi Purusha Program  NC  2003 $1,032,073 990  34  56-1824160  
Maharishi Spiritual Center of America  NC  2002 $66,368,132 990  38  
56-1886588  
Maharishi Spiritual University  IA  2004 $171,576 990  20  56-2352541  
Maharishi Spiritual University  IA  2003 $135,588 990  18  56-2352541  
Maharishi Spiritual University of American  NC  2002 $285,399 990  20  
56-2068614  
Maharishi University of Enlightenme  NC  2003 $244,607 990  22  56-
2068614  

  Assets
Maharishi University of Management  IA  2003 $42,728,126 

990  23  42-1315493  
Maharishi University of Management  IA  2002 $42,385,718 990  24  42-
1315493

  
Maharishi University of Management Foundation Inc.  IA  2003 $377,406 
990  15  39-1896290
  Maharishi University of Management Foundation Inc.  IA  2002 
$479,469 990  16  39-1896290  
Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corp.  IA  2003 $3,608,993 990  
30  04-3196447  
Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corp.  IA  2002 $3,971,073 990  
38  04-3196447  
Maharishi Vedic Foundation  NH  2003 $374,808 990  27  04-3351250  
Maharishi Vedic Foundation  NH  2002 $2,210,842 990  24  04-3351250  
Maharishi Vedic Organic Agri Institute  WY  2003 $30,448 990  14  56-
2224105  
Maharishi Vedic Organic Agricultural Institute  WY  2002 $15,514 990  
15  56-2224105  
Maharishi Vedic University and Maharishi Ayur Ved University  IA  2003 
$10,341,424 990  44  91-1963115  
Maharishi Vedic University and Maharishi Ayur Ved University  IA  2002 
$10,601,538 990  30  91-1963115  
World Plan Executive Council United Maharishi Vedic Center-Bethesd  
MD  2003 $80,074 990  14  51-0393663  
 
 

 










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been talking about 
> today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in the 
> Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi have been 
> having an affair.  Guess George didn't learn anything from Bill and I 
> guess if Bill could get impeached..  well you get it.
> 
> http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063
>


Well she HAS referred to him as her husband in public before...










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[FairfieldLife] Re: More on Armstrong, with a word from Einstein

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Not rejecting TM specifically, but the notion I've
> been calling "container development" in general, i.e.,
> you didn't move on to another spiritual path, you
> decided to stick with secular and concern yourself
> only with contents.  Among the folks here, you're
> unusual in that respect, I think.
> 
> Again, my experience is that expanding the container
> enhances all the types of things you talk about with
> regard to contents, beyond what I could manage if I
> were dealing *only* with the contents."
> 
> There is quite an accumulation of this knowledge in this group.  The
> fact that so many have broadened their scope beyond TM makes it even
> more interesting.  From your last post I understand that your 
interest
> in consciousness expansion predates your involvement in TM.
> 
> I would like to hear more about how the container expands in your
> experience these days.  If it can be articulated.

Really, really difficult to articulate, impossibly
abstract.

I guess the least-misleading thing I can say about
it is that everything is gradually but steadily
growing more transparent.  That doesn't begin to
cover it, but it's the only word that comes to mind.

> My focus on the contents of my awareness is not so much a decision 
as
> a natural consequence of my perspective shift.  Within the realm of
> the contents of my experience are plenty of things which take the
> place of consciousness expansion, that I consider to be my inner 
life.
>  I would not call it the container of the contents of my awareness,
> that is too abstract for me.  But they are profound to me and serve 
as
> a measure of my inner growth. In other words I am not just living 
for
> the senses in an unreflective manor.

No, obvioiusly not.  But I have a tough time relating
to the rest of it.  For me, consciousness expansion
is a process that nothing could take the place of
because it isn't remotely *like* any other process,
not in the same class, not of the same order; it
encompasses and subsumes all other processes.


  Of course all this is still an
> activity of consciousness, not consciousness itself.  I do relate 
to 
> this group's focus on personal growth, I just measure it differently
> perhaps.  But with all the diversity in experience I feel quite at
> home.  That is because the group members I have communicated with
> seems accepting of difference, which is up there in my own version 
of
> what spiritual should mean.











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread Rick Archer



on 6/2/06 11:05 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> http://atgdata.fdncenter.org/990search/search.php
> 
> if you enter the word "Maharishi" in the search function at the URL
> above, it lists a bunch of TM nonprofits' tax returns, and it shows
> the Global Country had assets of $214 million as of 2003

So the Kaplans measly $16 million could not have had a make or break
influence on the pundits' future.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)





on 6/2/06 10:18 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does that mean into the next lifetime?  If it does, maybe I'll sign up. :) 

Sal 
 
As I understood it, it was supposed to go on perpetually; not just for one generation of pundits.

On Jun 2, 2006, at 7:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote: 

 Well this was a fund that was supposed to support a group of pundits in 
 perpetuity. 










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread bob_brigante



http://atgdata.fdncenter.org/990search/search.php

if you enter the word "Maharishi" in the search function at the URL 
above, it lists a bunch of TM nonprofits' tax returns, and it shows 
the Global Country had assets of $214 million as of 2003










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[FairfieldLife] Court Rejects Evangelical Prison Plan Over State Aid

2006-06-02 Thread bob_brigante



http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/03/us/03faith.html









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread curtisdeltablues



Do you remember when Condi referred to Bush as "My husband"?  That
really cracked me up.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been talking 
> about 
> > today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in the 
> > Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi have been 
> > having an affair.  Guess George didn't learn anything from Bill and 
> I 
> > guess if Bill could get impeached..  well you get it.
> > 
> > http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063
> 
> I always felt that George and Condi had 'thing' for each other;
> 
> I kind of feel sorry for Laura-
>  I'm not sure she knew what she was getting involved with this George 
> W., character...
> She might have just woke up one morning, and said to herself:
> "George seems just plain evil lately, I'd better take a little break, 
> for a while..?"
> >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread Robert Gimbel



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been talking 
about 
> today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in the 
> Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi have been 
> having an affair.  Guess George didn't learn anything from Bill and 
I 
> guess if Bill could get impeached..  well you get it.
> 
> http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063

I always felt that George and Condi had 'thing' for each other;

I kind of feel sorry for Laura-
 I'm not sure she knew what she was getting involved with this George 
W., character...
She might have just woke up one morning, and said to herself:
"George seems just plain evil lately, I'd better take a little break, 
for a while..?"
>











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
Does that mean into the next lifetime?  If it does, maybe I'll sign up. :)

Sal


On Jun 2, 2006, at 7:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

Well this was a fund that was supposed to support a group of pundits in
perpetuity.


[FairfieldLife] 'Bush Still Leads In Bushlandia'

2006-06-02 Thread Robert Gimbel



Journey to the heart of Bushlandia The wide open spaces of Idaho have little room for anti-war sentiment Oliver Burkemann in Boise, IdahoSaturday June 3, 2006The Guardian   The governor of Idaho, an affable rancher named Jim Risch, stretched back in his chair and outlined his alternative history of the last few years in America. "Hurricane Katrina - they heaped that on George Bush!" said Mr Risch, in his shirt-sleeves in the blasting dry heat of an afternoon in Boise, the state capital.   "Here in Idaho, we couldn't understand how people could sit around on the kerbs waiting for the federal government to come and do something. We had a dam break in 1976,
 but we didn't whine about it. We got out our backhoes and we rebuilt the roads and replanted the fields and got on with our lives. That's the culture here. Not waiting for the federal government to bring you drinking water. In Idaho there would have been entrepreneurs selling the drinking water."     This, of course, is not how most Americans view last year's disaster in New Orleans. But then Idaho, to borrow a term gaining popularity on leftwing blogs, is part of "Bushlandia": the three remaining states, clustered in the mountainous west, where the president still enjoys approval ratings of 50% or more. According to the latest polls, Idaho tops the league at 52%,
 with neighbours Utah and Wyoming on 51% and 50%, making Mr Risch the de facto leader of this nation-within-a-nation. "President Bush is one of our greatest presidents, and he's one of our bravest presidents," the governor said. "People know what's in his heart."   To liberals on both coasts, Idaho is redneck country, famous only for its potato industry and its white supremacists (the now-defunct Aryan Nations group was based in the isolated north of the state until 2001). "Sexual relations with livestock are still commonplace," a columnist for the Nation magazine claimed recently. Idahoans would prefer to focus on their spirit of rugged independence, but the redneck label is fine with them, too. "Many people would say if it stops people coming here and ruining our tranquillity, they're welcome to go on thinking like that," said Bryan Fischer, a former pastor who now runs the staunchly rightwing Idaho Values Alliance.   If you oppose gay marriage,
 though, or especially if you support the war in Iraq, you will find many friends in Idaho. "A guy called me the other day and said he wanted to join our alliance. He made it clear he was new to the state," Mr Fischer said. "I asked where he was coming from, and he said California. I asked what prompted him to move to Idaho, and he said: "California."   Up to 35% of Idahoans identify themselves as affiliated to neither political party, and the state has elected Democratic officials before. But it has not supported a Democratic candidate for president since Lyndon Johnson. "It wasn't so long ago," a car-rental employee said, half-jokingly, "that if you voted Democrat round here, you'd get shot."   The divide between Bushlandia and the rest of America - or, more generally, between the president's core supporters and everyone else - is not a question of mere policy arguments. It is a clash of two incompatible versions of reality, where the same facts take on
 completely different meanings. For Idaho Republicans, escalating violence in Iraq illustrates precisely the scale of the challenge there, and the consequent need to stay loyal. Mr Bush's errors, meanwhile, are not an argument for his removal so much as a sign of his human fallibility. "You go into something like Iraq, nobody can know how it's going to turn," Governor Risch said. "People say Saddam was terrible because he tortured his people, now Bush is awful because he invaded. Well, which do you want?"   Core supporters   In the hills outside Boise, on a road where every telegraph pole sports a yellow ribbon in support of the troops, the owner of the Rumor Mill bakery explains the problem in one sentence. The media, Tona Henderson says, is biased to the left, and so the good news from Iraq never gets reported.   In an effort to send a different message, she has decorated nearly every available inch of her cafe - which counts local National Guardsmen
 and women among its clientele - with photographs of combat veterans. There is also a Bible verse, a shot of Iraqi children grinning in front of a US tank, and a poster in the window that drives home the point. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it," it reads.   "Of all the people I know that went to Iraq, I've not talked to one who said they think they went there for a bad reason," said Ms Henderson, who has her doubts about Mr Bush on some issues, but not the war. "They said: 'We went over there for a good reason, and we did something good there. And if it came down to it, they'd go back.'"   Supporting the troops but opposing the war is not a popular option. "It's ludicrous!" Bryan Fischer said. "It's like you're saying yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rollingstone article

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > >
> > > Wolf Blitzer just broadcast the Rollingstone voting article on 
CNN.
> > >
> > 
> > I guess that shoots to hell Bhairitu's claim that the so-called 
> > mainstream media is ignoring it.
> >
> 
> Up until now.

It only came out yesterday, Lawson.



 If a news article appears in the MSM that lists the "top 50 most-
ignored stories 
> of the year" does that mean the MSM is now covering those stories?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are 
run by
> > > brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the 
idea).
> > 
> > You ought to read the article.  A great deal of the
> > irregularities did not even involve the voting machines.
> >
> 
> No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is
> potential for abuse for whomever is in power at any time, so they 
> need to be taken care of ASAP.

Well, of course they do.  The point is there are very
many more things that need to be taken care of as well,
most of it low-tech.

> Failure to do so, 
> only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, 
> IMHO.

Oh, gee, that's a really silly thing to say, Lawson.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread curtisdeltablues



Remember how all course fees had to be in the form of an international
money order?  Ever eaten in a cash-only Vietnamese restaurant?
I am going to guess that these funds were directed to whatever account
was specified by the movement.

Rule of thumb:  When a magician brings a his own box on stage, don't
too surprised when a beautiful woman jumps out.




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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > on 6/2/06 5:45 PM, curtisdeltablues at curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
> > > 
> > > > "Then, about half of that was lost in the market - bad 
> investments at
> > > > a rough time in the stock market."
> > > > 
> > > > Is is just me who is skeptical of this?  I don't know how such 
> a claim
> > > > would be verified.  I remember when the money being wired over 
> to
> > > > India was supposedly stolen, so we all ended up living in Tents
> > > > instead of in hotels.  Seems like a lot of hard luck stories 
> with
> > > > massive amounts of cash.  Maybe someone just tucked it away...
> > > 
> > > And somehow, mysteriously, MMY's nephews live in large mansions 
> and live
> > > lavish lifestyles, or so say some friends who have been over 
> there.
> > >
> > 
> 
> 
> > Is there documentation in the news about this, or is it 
> only "first hand accounts?"
> >
> 
> 
> **
> 
> All nonprofits have to make their cash flow public. Here, for 
> instance, is the Global Country's tax forms for past years:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/qsh8v
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Swami Sivananda defines CC

2006-06-02 Thread jim_flanegin



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> > > > wrote:
> >  
> > > > Hi, I am unsure why you are asking such, for the criterion 
> > > > for recognizing such a Jivanmukta is clearly spelled out by 
> > > > the saint dude:
> > > > "Only a Jivammukta can know a Jivanmukta."
> > > 
> > > He should have stopped there IMO, or with the state-
> > > ment about how defining the state was not possible.
> > > He didn't.
> > 
> > Nature's choice, right? ; )
> 
> If you assume that 'nature' has choices, and
> the ability to make them. I don't.  :-)

Depends on your ability to manifest 'nature'; )
> 
> > > The reason I asked is that in your reply above to
> > > new_morning, you clearly stated that you agreed
> > > with the characteristics he defined *when* he didn't.
> > 
> > I read it differently, not as new_morning expressing an at 
> > opinion all, rather looking for a clarification.
> 
> I saw the same thing, but I felt that your "Yep"
> was overly broad, and given his specific question,
> implied that you agreed with Sivananda's specific
> 'characteristics' of a jivanmukti.

I do, but only because the saint dude authoritatively and 
convincingly states the criterion for recognizing a jivanmukti.

The rest, as they say, is cake. A simple matter of trust and 
surrender at that point.
> 
> I think it's fine to suggest that an enlightened
> being could possibly have the attributes A, B, C, 
> and D. But to be accurate, I think the person doing 
> this should also include all the other letters. 
> *All* of them. 

We all have personalities, right?
> 
> A while back, in a similar discussion someone 
> (possibly new_morning) asked someone (possibly
> you) to define the attributes of enlightenment.
> At the time, I interjected: "I define enlighten-
> ment as having all of the combined attributes 
> that every sentient being in the universe has 
> ever personified or been able to imagine." 
> 
> I still believe that to be true. As far as I
> can tell, creation *is* enlightenment. Non-
> enlightenment does not exist. Therefore, any 
> attribute that can exist in creation can 
> coexist with enlightenment, and be one of
> the "attributes of enlightenment." 

Everything can be an attribute of enlightenment. Depends on how much 
enlightenment you realize, right? If it is always there as you say, 
then the question is how much of creation are we enlightened about; 
how much of creation do we see the reality of? 

Again, its a personality thing, basically.

> So you're pretty safe IMO in naming anything
> as a possible attribute of enlightenment, but
> the minute you do, the mind starts excluding
> the attributes you didn't name, or the ones
> you consider opposites of the ones you did. 
> I think that's the reason some teachers refused 
> to ever get into the "name game" and propose 
> such "lists."
>
Not necessarily. If the mind is the entity trying to choose 
attributes of enlightenment, then it will fail every time.

Enlightenment is that feeling all of us have had where we're 
just 'in the flow', effortless, and it either lasts as short, 
intermittent experiences of 'being in the flow', or longer times, or 
a constant, fully intergrated with 'chop wood, carry water'.












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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rollingstone article

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > Wolf Blitzer just broadcast the Rollingstone voting article on CNN.
> >
> 
> I guess that shoots to hell Bhairitu's claim that the so-called 
> mainstream media is ignoring it.
>

Up until now. If a news article appears in the MSM that lists the "top 50 most-ignored stories 
of the year" does that mean the MSM is now covering those stories?












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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 6/2/06 6:29 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Additional clarification: all this about the loss of the money and the yagyas
> > was waht I was 
> > told when I asked where all the money had gone.  This teacher was telling me
> > what they 
> > had heard from international about the pundiit project and money.  But I
> > agree, it is more
> > likely that the money was "lost" to graft and relatives rather than the stock
> > market.  Of 
> > course, the yagya story is all baloney, since the TMO would not pay millions
> > in advance to 
> > jyotishi to do ygayas for the next 40 years for people.
> 
> Even if it were lost in the stock market, there's something really flaky
> about that. I know next to nothing about managing large sums of money, but
> I'll bet that the first rule of endowment managers is that you invest the
> bulk of it very conservatively, and only do something speculative, if at
> all, with the tip of the pyramid.
>

During the 2001 bust, vitually everything went down except stock brokerage firms.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> 
> > Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by
> > brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea).
> 
> You ought to read the article.  A great deal of the
> irregularities did not even involve the voting machines.
>

No doubt, but they're the easiest thing to address, and there is potential for abuse for 
whomever is in power at any time, so they need to be taken care of ASAP. Failure to do so, 
only indicates a desire for the other side to exploit things also, IMHO.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Then, about half of that was lost in the market - bad investments 
> > > at
> > > > a rough time in the stock market." 
> > > > 
> > > > Is is just me who is skeptical of this?  I don't know how such a 
> > > claim
> > > > would be verified.  I remember when the money being wired over to
> > > > India was supposedly stolen, so we all ended up living in Tents
> > > > instead of in hotels.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Could you elaborate on this?
> > > 
> > > When did this happen and what were the circumstances?
> > 
> > The information was given to me when I questioned a fulltime teacher at the time who 
> was 
> > in a position to know.  I believe the info is reliable.  I do not know the details, but I 
recall 
> > being told that of the amount invested, about half was lost, leaving a lot less than 
> > expected.  I think this all occurred around 2001-2002, but it was during the year 
> following 
> > the Big Million Dollar Course.
> 
> Additional clarification: all this about the loss of the money and the yagyas was waht I 
was 
> told when I asked where all the money had gone.  This teacher was telling me what they 
> had heard from international about the pundiit project and money.  But I agree, it is 
more 
> likely that the money was "lost" to graft and relatives rather than the stock market.  Of 
> course, the yagya story is all baloney, since the TMO would not pay millions in advance 
to 
> jyotishi to do ygayas for the next 40 years for people.
>

Dont' know about yagyas but a LOT of people lost their shirts during the dotcom bust.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread Rick Archer



on 6/2/06 7:31 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> How do you permanently lose money in a wire transfer?  Is this possible?
> Someone somewhere knows what really happened with the wire transfer for the
> 80-81 
> course and with the Million Dollar Course Money. It would be nice to know the
> truth, and if 
> we are lucky someone will write about it someday when it feel safe to do so.

Probably the only ones who could tell the story are the ones who took the
money.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread jyouells2000



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > "Then, about half of that was lost in the market - bad investments 
> at
> > a rough time in the stock market." 
> > 
> > Is is just me who is skeptical of this?  I don't know how such a 
> claim
> > would be verified.  I remember when the money being wired over to
> > India was supposedly stolen, so we all ended up living in Tents
> > instead of in hotels.
> 
> 
> 
> Could you elaborate on this?
> 
> When did this happen and what were the circumstances?
> 
> 


Wow, they've tried a little bit of everything haven't they.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread jyouells2000



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One afterthought on this. MMY spoke as though Harris and Arlene's 
> donation had secured the future of the Indian pundit project. Yet 
> their donation was a fraction of the total raised through millionaire 
> courses, etc. What happened to that money? Wasn't it already 
> sufficient to secure the project?
>
What does 'secure the project mean'? That more money can be raised?
Or that there actually be a project? 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: I object to this subject line: How Bush stole two elections

2006-06-02 Thread Patrick Gillam



--- shempmcgurk wrote:
>
>  
> A $2.8 trillion budget???  This is simply horrific.

What frightens me is, for all we're borrowing, we're 
not any more safe or prosperous than we are.

It must horrify the Republicans. You'd think for all 
the propping up that's going on, they wouldn't have 
to be worried about the coming mid-term elections. 
If you can't buy a happy electorate for a trillion 
dollars, what's it going to take?









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread bob_brigante



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  
wrote:
> >
> > on 6/2/06 5:45 PM, curtisdeltablues at curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
> > 
> > > "Then, about half of that was lost in the market - bad 
investments at
> > > a rough time in the stock market."
> > > 
> > > Is is just me who is skeptical of this?  I don't know how such 
a claim
> > > would be verified.  I remember when the money being wired over 
to
> > > India was supposedly stolen, so we all ended up living in Tents
> > > instead of in hotels.  Seems like a lot of hard luck stories 
with
> > > massive amounts of cash.  Maybe someone just tucked it away...
> > 
> > And somehow, mysteriously, MMY's nephews live in large mansions 
and live
> > lavish lifestyles, or so say some friends who have been over 
there.
> >
> 


> Is there documentation in the news about this, or is it 
only "first hand accounts?"
>


**

All nonprofits have to make their cash flow public. Here, for 
instance, is the Global Country's tax forms for past years:

http://tinyurl.com/qsh8v











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[FairfieldLife] Laura Moves?

2006-06-02 Thread Bhairitu



And another story the tabloids and talk shows have been talking about 
today is the rumor that Laura Bush has taken up residency in the 
Mayflower Hotel because she found out that Dubya and Condi have been 
having an affair.  Guess George didn't learn anything from Bill and I 
guess if Bill could get impeached..  well you get it.

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=144063








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rollingstone article

2006-06-02 Thread Patrick Gillam



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > Wolf Blitzer just broadcast the Rollingstone voting article on CNN.
> >
> 
> I guess that shoots to hell Bhairitu's claim that the so-called 
> mainstream media is ignoring it.

I wish I still got the Wall Street Journal. I expect they'll 
pick it up Monday.

;-

We get a news digest called The Week that summarizes 
leading stories and commentary from around the world. 
I'll keep an eye out for whether this story gets picked up.

Slate summarizes news stories, too.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread Bhairitu



Vaj wrote:

>
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Well , all I can say is, if  Bush and the Republicans have the  power 
>> to rig the elections, the Democrats are totally screwed.  Forget 
>> about 2006, much less 2008. Basically what this tells me is  that 
>> really loyal Democrats are thinking in the backs of their  minds, "we 
>> need to think of a better way to rig the elections in  our favor!" If 
>> one party thinks they are being cheated and can't do  anything about 
>> it, they most likely are going to look for a better  way to cheat the 
>> other without getting caught.
>
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6
>
> Check out the Greg Palast video.
>
> Also: make sure you're sitting down when you watch it...

Spare rig will probably think he's watching Alan Watt without a Scottish 
accent.  :)







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Evil Mr. Sun is responsible for global warming

2006-06-02 Thread Bhairitu



Rick Archer wrote:

>on 6/2/06 7:05 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > One burp, one insignificant 3 second fart from the sun equals about
> > 1,000 years of burning fossil fuels on planet Earth at current
> > consumption levels.
>
>Yeah, but that burp takes place on the sun, not here.
>
>
>
>  
>
I think McGurk sees himself as the FFL Bart Simpson with a little of 
Cartman thrown in.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread wayback71



How do you permanently lose money in a wire transfer?  Is this possible?
Someone somewhere knows what really happened with the wire transfer for the 80-81 
course and with the Million Dollar Course Money. It would be nice to know the truth, and if 
we are lucky someone will write about it someday when it feel safe to do so.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As I remember it $500,000 had been donated to pay for our hotels in
> India on the India course, 1980-81 right?  I remember that the money
> came from the TM teacher oil speculators who were making a killing at
> the time, Angus Hunt is the only name I remember. 
> The money was supposed to have been lost in a wire transfer to India
> which resulted in everyone being kicked out of hotels and put up in
> the tent city of NOIDA.  Perhaps someone else remembers the details. 
> I bought the story that it was just "lost in the transfer" at the
> time, but this last post about a large sum being lost in the stock
> market made me wonder.  I am just speculating.  Maybe both are
> legitimate.  It just seems like a hard thing to prove either way which
> puts a lot of cash up for grabs.  It was the course participants who
> were hurt by the loss, not the movement.











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Evil Mr. Sun is responsible for global warming

2006-06-02 Thread Rick Archer



on 6/2/06 7:05 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> One burp, one insignificant 3 second fart from the sun equals about
> 1,000 years of burning fossil fuels on planet Earth at current
> consumption levels.

Yeah, but that burp takes place on the sun, not here.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 6/2/06 7:01 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >> Even if it were lost in the stock market, there's something 
really
> > flaky
> >> about that. I know next to nothing about managing large sums of
> > money, but
> >> I'll bet that the first rule of endowment managers is that you
> > invest the
> >> bulk of it very conservatively, and only do something 
speculative,
> > if at
> >> all, with the tip of the pyramid.
> >> 
> > 
> > Generally speaking, yes.
> > 
> > But it depends on the type of fund: agreesive, fixed, variable,
> > conservative, etc.
> 
> Well this was a fund that was supposed to support a group of 
pundits in
> perpetuity.
>

Then it would have been on the VERY conservative side...and from my 
limited knowledge, I would say invest it in a lifetime annuity based 
on the lifeexpectancies of the pundits and do it with the most 
conservative financial institution there is: a life insurance 
company (who, by law, have to invest their funds very 
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[FairfieldLife] For Billie Batts

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



Iran Bamboozler Invited to White House as "Expert"
By Paul Kiel - May 31, 2006, 11:35 AM 
Two weeks ago, Amir Taheri published an op-ed in Canada's National 
Post about an Iranian law that forced Jews to wear a yellow stripe. 
The story, reminiscent of Nazi Germany, quickly provoked outrage, but 
was just as quickly revealed to be a total fabrication. It also ran in 
the New York Post.

Apparently this is just the sort of reliable advice that President 
Bush needs. Yesterday, Taheri had a face-to-face with the President as 
one of a small group of "experts" on Iraq that visited the White House.

According to Press Secretary Tony Snow, the experts were invited to 
the White House for their "honest opinions" on Iraq. 

Permalink | TOPICS: Amir Taheri 









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread Rick Archer



on 6/2/06 7:01 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Even if it were lost in the stock market, there's something really
> flaky
>> about that. I know next to nothing about managing large sums of
> money, but
>> I'll bet that the first rule of endowment managers is that you
> invest the
>> bulk of it very conservatively, and only do something speculative,
> if at
>> all, with the tip of the pyramid.
>> 
> 
> Generally speaking, yes.
> 
> But it depends on the type of fund: agreesive, fixed, variable,
> conservative, etc.

Well this was a fund that was supposed to support a group of pundits in
perpetuity.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > Late update:  CNN's Wolf Blitzer had RFK Jr. on his show today 
> > discussing the article.
> 
> Good for him.
> 
> He'll almost certainly be on MSNBC's Countdown with 
> Keith Olbermann (8:00 pm, rerun at midnight), if not
> tonight, then in the next week at some point.  Olbermann
> was the only newscaster on cable *or* the networks to
> really focus on the voting problems and is quoted in
> the article.
>

And then maybe the ex-heroin addict can share some of his other kookie 
theories with MSNBC viewers.










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[FairfieldLife] Evil Mr. Sun is responsible for global warming

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



One burp, one insignificant 3 second fart from the sun equals about 
1,000 years of burning fossil fuels on planet Earth at current 
consumption levels.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore: a chip off the old block

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> >  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Al Gore's father, Al Senior, was an old school racist who 
> > > supported 
> > > > > Jim Crow and segregation
> > > > 
> > > > Absolutely untrue, and Shemp knows it, because
> > > > we've gone over the evidence to the contrary in
> > > > some detail.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > As a congressman and senator from Tennessee (30 years total) 
> Gore 
> > > Sr. continually supported segregation.
> > > 
> > > Please dispute that with facts (other than the personal 
> anecdotes 
> > of 
> > > how you met him at Obiwankinobe University you went to).
> > > 
> > > He voted against the Civil Rights Act.
> > > 
> > > Please dispute that.
> > > 
> > > He purposely practised Jim Crow and segregation in his personal 
> > life.
> > > 
> > > Please dispute that.
> > 
> > Take your medication, Shemp.  We've been through
> > this twice now.
> >
> 
> No, we've been through it at least three times and you've been
> wrong every time.

Actually it would be you who was wrong every time.

> for anyone that's interested, just do a google groups search 
> on "gore shemp" on a.m.t. and they'll get the whole shebang.

By all means.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
>  wrote:
> >
> > on 6/2/06 6:29 PM, wayback71 at wayback71@ wrote:
> > 
> > > Additional clarification: all this about the loss of the money 
> and the yagyas
> > > was waht I was 
> > > told when I asked where all the money had gone.  This teacher 
> was telling me
> > > what they 
> > > had heard from international about the pundiit project and 
> money.  But I
> > > agree, it is more
> > > likely that the money was "lost" to graft and relatives rather 
> than the stock
> > > market.  Of 
> > > course, the yagya story is all baloney, since the TMO would 
not 
> pay millions
> > > in advance to 
> > > jyotishi to do ygayas for the next 40 years for people.
> > 
> > Even if it were lost in the stock market, there's something 
really 
> flaky
> > about that. I know next to nothing about managing large sums of 
> money, but
> > I'll bet that the first rule of endowment managers is that you 
> invest the
> > bulk of it very conservatively, and only do something 
speculative, 
> if at
> > all, with the tip of the pyramid.
> >
> 
> Generally speaking, yes.
> 
> But it depends on the type of fund: agreesive, fixed, variable, 
> conservative, etc.
>

(I hit "send" before I wanted to add the following): and most 
importantly no matter the fund and the degree of agressive or 
conservative investing it is next to impossible to lose A HUNDRED 
PERCENT of an investment fund.  Indeed, today even Enron stock still 
has a marginal value left to it!

So for the entire $500,000 to disappear must necessarily mean that 
there were shenanigans involved...especially if there hasn't been an 
official accounting of it.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Late update:  CNN's Wolf Blitzer had RFK Jr. on his show today 
> discussing the article.

Good for him.

He'll almost certainly be on MSNBC's Countdown with 
Keith Olbermann (8:00 pm, rerun at midnight), if not
tonight, then in the next week at some point.  Olbermann
was the only newscaster on cable *or* the networks to
really focus on the voting problems and is quoted in
the article.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 6/2/06 6:29 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Additional clarification: all this about the loss of the money 
and the yagyas
> > was waht I was 
> > told when I asked where all the money had gone.  This teacher 
was telling me
> > what they 
> > had heard from international about the pundiit project and 
money.  But I
> > agree, it is more
> > likely that the money was "lost" to graft and relatives rather 
than the stock
> > market.  Of 
> > course, the yagya story is all baloney, since the TMO would not 
pay millions
> > in advance to 
> > jyotishi to do ygayas for the next 40 years for people.
> 
> Even if it were lost in the stock market, there's something really 
flaky
> about that. I know next to nothing about managing large sums of 
money, but
> I'll bet that the first rule of endowment managers is that you 
invest the
> bulk of it very conservatively, and only do something speculative, 
if at
> all, with the tip of the pyramid.
>

Generally speaking, yes.

But it depends on the type of fund: agreesive, fixed, variable, 
conservative, etc.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore: a chip off the old block

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Al Gore's father, Al Senior, was an old school racist who 
> > supported 
> > > > Jim Crow and segregation
> > > 
> > > Absolutely untrue, and Shemp knows it, because
> > > we've gone over the evidence to the contrary in
> > > some detail.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As a congressman and senator from Tennessee (30 years total) 
Gore 
> > Sr. continually supported segregation.
> > 
> > Please dispute that with facts (other than the personal 
anecdotes 
> of 
> > how you met him at Obiwankinobe University you went to).
> > 
> > He voted against the Civil Rights Act.
> > 
> > Please dispute that.
> > 
> > He purposely practised Jim Crow and segregation in his personal 
> life.
> > 
> > Please dispute that.
> 
> Take your medication, Shemp.  We've been through
> this twice now.
>

No, we've been through it at least three times and you've been wrong 
every time.

for anyone that's interested, just do a google groups search 
on "gore shemp" on a.m.t. and they'll get the whole shebang.

Now go home and get your shine box.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rollingstone article

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wolf Blitzer just broadcast the Rollingstone voting article on CNN.
>

I guess that shoots to hell Bhairitu's claim that the so-called 
mainstream media is ignoring it.











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread Rick Archer



on 6/2/06 6:29 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Additional clarification: all this about the loss of the money and the yagyas
> was waht I was 
> told when I asked where all the money had gone.  This teacher was telling me
> what they 
> had heard from international about the pundiit project and money.  But I
> agree, it is more
> likely that the money was "lost" to graft and relatives rather than the stock
> market.  Of 
> course, the yagya story is all baloney, since the TMO would not pay millions
> in advance to 
> jyotishi to do ygayas for the next 40 years for people.

Even if it were lost in the stock market, there's something really flaky
about that. I know next to nothing about managing large sums of money, but
I'll bet that the first rule of endowment managers is that you invest the
bulk of it very conservatively, and only do something speculative, if at
all, with the tip of the pyramid.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore: a chip off the old block

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> shempmcgurk wrote:
> 
> >Al Gore's father, Al Senior, was an old school racist who 
supported
> >Jim Crow and segregation and, of course, voted against the 1964 
Civil
> >Rights Act like most of his fellow Southern Democrats.  In his 
private
> >life, Gore practised what he preached as well.
> >
> >So Senior used the fear-mongering inherent in his chosen 
philosophy of
> >racism and segregation to keep African-Americans in their place.
> >
> >Junior uses the fear-mongering of the-sky-is-falling global 
warming to
> >put fear in everyone.
> >
> >The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
> >
> >  
> >
> And Al's film opens today in the SF Bay area.  I'm going to take 
it in 
> next week at the local Cinearts.
> 
> I suppose Shemp would have to be up to his ears in pollution 
before he'd 
> admit to the effects of global warming and may not even then!
> :)
>

Absolutely.

There is more evidence that BURNING fossil fuels will prevent global 
warming (a completely natural phenomenon) than stopping the burning 
of fossil fuels.  Burning fossil fuels emits CO2 which creates a 
sheen of protection in the atmosphere to ward off the rays of the 
sun (the ultimate source of global warming).










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[FairfieldLife] Rollingstone article

2006-06-02 Thread Vaj



Wolf Blitzer just broadcast the Rollingstone voting article on CNN.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Al Gore: a chip off the old block

2006-06-02 Thread Bhairitu



shempmcgurk wrote:

>Al Gore's father, Al Senior, was an old school racist who supported
>Jim Crow and segregation and, of course, voted against the 1964 Civil
>Rights Act like most of his fellow Southern Democrats.  In his private
>life, Gore practised what he preached as well.
>
>So Senior used the fear-mongering inherent in his chosen philosophy of
>racism and segregation to keep African-Americans in their place.
>
>Junior uses the fear-mongering of the-sky-is-falling global warming to
>put fear in everyone.
>
>The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
>
>  
>
And Al's film opens today in the SF Bay area.  I'm going to take it in 
next week at the local Cinearts.

I suppose Shemp would have to be up to his ears in pollution before he'd 
admit to the effects of global warming and may not even then!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread Bhairitu



Late update:  CNN's Wolf Blitzer had RFK Jr. on his show today 
discussing the article.
 
Bhairitu wrote:

>A must read:
>http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
>
>It should be at the top of the news but we know the crooks that now run
>big business and media will bury it.  Call all the talk shows,
>newspapers, TV stations you can and harass them into carrying the story.
>
>  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Report Last Week: Shots Fired In D.C.

2006-06-02 Thread Bhairitu



shempmcgurk wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > >At the same time, I've just watched "V for Vendetta"
> > > >again, and couldn't help but smile at the fake News
> > > >broadcasts that the government used to control the
> > > >people.
> > >
> > > Must be a torrent. ;-)  Yup, I did a search and the
> > > torrents are there already.  Is it a screener DVD
> > > (which they send to video stores)?  
> >
> > I don't know the source, but it's the whole film.
> > I saw it originally in French, and wanted to hear
> > the at-times-overly-wordy dialogue in its original
> > English.
> >
> > > The actual DVD is scheduled for August 1st and there
> > > is a two disk collectors edition too.
> >
> > It's far from a great film, but it's certainly
> > interesting, and it certainly captures a certain
> > aspect of the times we live in and what may have
> > to be done to have done with them. In an era in
> > which elections are stolen and votes are not
> > counted, it may well be past "vote the bastids
> > out" time and may be verging on "throw them out
> > using any method that works" time.
> >
>
>I'm fascinated that you like this film, Barry, because its
>philosophy is SO very NRAish and pro-individual and anti-
>government.  Big hit on libertarian and anarcho-capitalist websites.
>
>  
>
Really?  You must've seen a different film.  It was anti-fascist and the 
graphic novel was especially that way.  Though I'm not pro-NRA I'm not 
anti-gun either.  They're handy to stop right wingers in their tracks.  :)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore: a chip off the old block

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Al Gore's father, Al Senior, was an old school racist who 
> supported 
> > > Jim Crow and segregation
> > 
> > Absolutely untrue, and Shemp knows it, because
> > we've gone over the evidence to the contrary in
> > some detail.
> 
> 
> 
> As a congressman and senator from Tennessee (30 years total) Gore 
> Sr. continually supported segregation.
> 
> Please dispute that with facts (other than the personal anecdotes 
of 
> how you met him at Obiwankinobe University you went to).
> 
> He voted against the Civil Rights Act.
> 
> Please dispute that.
> 
> He purposely practised Jim Crow and segregation in his personal 
life.
> 
> Please dispute that.

Take your medication, Shemp.  We've been through
this twice now.










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[FairfieldLife] Newsweek finally notices the e-voting problem

2006-06-02 Thread Vaj




"Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the voting booth,  
here comes more disturbing news
about the trustworthiness of electronic touchscreen ballot machines.  
Earlier this month a report by
Finnish security expert Harri Hursti analyzed Diebold voting machines  
for an organization called
Black Box Voting. Hursti found unheralded vulnerabilities in the  
machines that are currently
entrusted to faithfully record the votes of millions of Americans.

"How bad are the problems? Experts are calling them the most serious  
voting-machine flaws ever
documented. Basically the trouble stems from the ease with which the  
machine's software can be
altered. It requires only a few minutes of pre-election access to a  
Diebold machine to open the
machine and insert a PC card that, if it contained malicious code,  
could reprogram the machine to
give control to the violator. The machine could go dead on Election  
Day or throw votes to the wrong
candidate. Worse, it's even possible for such ballot-tampering  
software to trick authorized
technicians into thinking that everything is working fine, an  
illusion you couldn't pull off with
pre-electronic systems."

Full story at:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12888600/site/newsweek/








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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Only 2 major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by
> brothers, both republican (a simplification, but you get the idea).

You ought to read the article.  A great deal of the
irregularities did not even involve the voting machines.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread wayback71



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > "Then, about half of that was lost in the market - bad investments 
> > at
> > > a rough time in the stock market." 
> > > 
> > > Is is just me who is skeptical of this?  I don't know how such a 
> > claim
> > > would be verified.  I remember when the money being wired over to
> > > India was supposedly stolen, so we all ended up living in Tents
> > > instead of in hotels.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Could you elaborate on this?
> > 
> > When did this happen and what were the circumstances?
> 
> The information was given to me when I questioned a fulltime teacher at the time who 
was 
> in a position to know.  I believe the info is reliable.  I do not know the details, but I recall 
> being told that of the amount invested, about half was lost, leaving a lot less than 
> expected.  I think this all occurred around 2001-2002, but it was during the year 
following 
> the Big Million Dollar Course.

Additional clarification: all this about the loss of the money and the yagyas was waht I was 
told when I asked where all the money had gone.  This teacher was telling me what they 
had heard from international about the pundiit project and money.  But I agree, it is more 
likely that the money was "lost" to graft and relatives rather than the stock market.  Of 
course, the yagya story is all baloney, since the TMO would not pay millions in advance to 
jyotishi to do ygayas for the next 40 years for people.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:

> > But what is most anomalous about the irregularities in 2004 was 
> > their decidedly partisan bent: Almost without exception they hurt 
> > John Kerry and benefited George Bush
> 
> ...and it was this last line that pretty much told me that the rest 
> of the article would be biased.

Well, that's about the silliest thing I think you've
ever said here.

> "Almost without exception".  Out of 13,000 jurisdictions
> and "almost without exception" they hurt Kerry and benefitted 
> Bush?  Please.
> 
> Perhaps the examples that RFK jr. was going to show indicated that 
> but to suggest such a one-sided bias is, simply, absurd.

It's thoroughly documented, Shemp.  He's not "suggesting"
anything, he's telling you what the facts are.

> If it's NOT absurd, then why bother reading more anyway?  He's 
> pretty much told us what's going to be in the rest of the piece.
> 
> Let RFK jr. write about the '60 election first...THEN I'll consider 
> reading this one.

Non sequitur.


> Sorry, I just don't buy it.

River in Egypt.

> Let a NON partisan -- someone other than the fanatical RFK jr. -- 
> champion this cause and maybe I'll give it more credence.

Well, of course he isn't a fanatic.  And of course
you've ignored all the confirmation he's obtained
from nonpartisan experts and Republicans (not to
mention the one who "hates Democrats").










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 6/2/06 5:45 PM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > "Then, about half of that was lost in the market - bad investments at
> > a rough time in the stock market."
> > 
> > Is is just me who is skeptical of this?  I don't know how such a claim
> > would be verified.  I remember when the money being wired over to
> > India was supposedly stolen, so we all ended up living in Tents
> > instead of in hotels.  Seems like a lot of hard luck stories with
> > massive amounts of cash.  Maybe someone just tucked it away...
> 
> And somehow, mysteriously, MMY's nephews live in large mansions and live
> lavish lifestyles, or so say some friends who have been over there.
>

Is there documentation in the news about this, or is it only "first hand accounts?"









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread Vaj


On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well , all I can say is, if  Bush and the Republicans have the power to rig the elections, the Democrats are totally screwed. Forget about 2006, much less 2008. Basically what this tells me is that really loyal Democrats are thinking in the backs of their minds, "we need to think of a better way to rig the elections in our favor!" If one party thinks they are being cheated and can't do anything about it, they most likely are going to look for a better way to cheat the other without getting caught.http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6Check out the Greg Palast video.Also: make sure you're sitting down when you watch it...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 6/2/06 6:06:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Only 2  major electronic voting companies exist, and they are run by 
> brothers, both  
> republican (a simplification, but you get the  idea).
> 
> 
> 
> So... you want them run by  Democrats?
>

I want them open sourced, or for there to be more choices, or both. The current state of 
affairs is appalling, no matter who is in control.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread wayback71



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > "Then, about half of that was lost in the market - bad investments 
> at
> > a rough time in the stock market." 
> > 
> > Is is just me who is skeptical of this?  I don't know how such a 
> claim
> > would be verified.  I remember when the money being wired over to
> > India was supposedly stolen, so we all ended up living in Tents
> > instead of in hotels.
> 
> 
> 
> Could you elaborate on this?
> 
> When did this happen and what were the circumstances?

The information was given to me when I questioned a fulltime teacher at the time who was 
in a position to know.  I believe the info is reliable.  I do not know the details, but I recall 
being told that of the amount invested, about half was lost, leaving a lot less than 
expected.  I think this all occurred around 2001-2002, but it was during the year following 
the Big Million Dollar Course.
> 
> >  Seems like a lot of hard luck stories with 
> > massive amounts of cash.  Maybe someone just tucked it away...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I heard that they only collected asbout $75 million of the
> > $100million (some who had 
> > > promised never paid up and a few were allowed to go on the course
> > free). Then, about half 
> > > of that was lost in the market - bad investments at a rough time 
> in
> > the stock market. 
> > > Instead of investing in really secure things, they risked the 
> money
> > and lost it.  Then several 
> > > million were needed to pay for the the yagyas and chart readings
> > that the participants 
> > > were promised - these were/are supposed to continue for the 
> lifetime
> > of the participant 
> > > and the cost was supposedly paid in full asst that time.  Major
> > yaygas on birthdays as well 
> > > as all sorts of other yayga stuff (expensive if you are paying
> > movement prices). The 
> > > remaining money was not much and, well...you know the 
> usual.  It
> > disappeared 
> > > somewhere or other to support things in Holland etc etc etc etc
> > etc--- In 
> > > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One afterthought on this. MMY spoke as though Harris and 
> Arlene's 
> > > > donation had secured the future of the Indian pundit project. 
> Yet 
> > > > their donation was a fraction of the total raised through 
> millionaire 
> > > > courses, etc. What happened to that money? Wasn't it already 
> > > > sufficient to secure the project?
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [FairfieldLife] I object to this subject line: How Bush stole two elections

2006-06-02 Thread Vaj


On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:http://tinyurl.com/ogrhqI only read the first thousand words or so - it's a long article - but I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's zero implication that Bush himself was behind any of the shenanigans Kennedy describes. I got the impression this article illustrates a cultureof corruption, not one man's influence.So here we have a well-documented piece of investigative journalism, researched at length with many source materials in the public domain, going to great pains to get the facts right,and it's shared in this forum under a misleading subject line.Kinda starts the whole discussion on a sour note, seems to me.Then watch the Greg Palast interview, you'll see:http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore: a chip off the old block

2006-06-02 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Al Gore's father, Al Senior, was an old school racist who 
supported 
> > Jim Crow and segregation
> 
> Absolutely untrue, and Shemp knows it, because
> we've gone over the evidence to the contrary in
> some detail.



As a congressman and senator from Tennessee (30 years total) Gore 
Sr. continually supported segregation.

Please dispute that with facts (other than the personal anecdotes of 
how you met him at Obiwankinobe University you went to).

He voted against the Civil Rights Act.

Please dispute that.

He purposely practised Jim Crow and segregation in his personal life.

Please dispute that.




> 
> 
>  and, of course, voted against the 1964 Civil 
> > Rights Act like most of his fellow Southern Democrats.  In his 
> private 
> > life, Gore practised what he preached as well.
> > 
> > So Senior used the fear-mongering inherent in his chosen 
philosophy 
> of 
> > racism and segregation to keep African-Americans in their place.
> > 
> > Junior uses the fear-mongering of the-sky-is-falling global 
warming 
> to 
> > put fear in everyone.
> > 
> > The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
> >
>










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Bush stole two elections, by RFK Jr.

2006-06-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
Well, what can you say?  Shemp giveth, and Shemp taketh away. :)

Sal


On Jun 2, 2006, at 3:28 PM, authfriend wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I guess Civility Day must be over. :)

Shemp declared it over so he could dump on Bhairitu.




> 
> Sal
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> >  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 

> >  wrote:
> 
> >  > Yeah, Mr. Grassy Knoll, I'm tripping over myself to make sure
> >  > everyone is aware of this.
> >
> >  Best to read it before you pass judgment on it.
> >  This is not, repeat NOT, tinfoil-hattery (even
> >  though it *is* Bhairitu recommending it).
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating the birthday of Dr. Arleen Kaplan (excerpt)

2006-06-02 Thread curtisdeltablues



As I remember it $500,000 had been donated to pay for our hotels in
India on the India course, 1980-81 right?  I remember that the money
came from the TM teacher oil speculators who were making a killing at
the time, Angus Hunt is the only name I remember. 
The money was supposed to have been lost in a wire transfer to India
which resulted in everyone being kicked out of hotels and put up in
the tent city of NOIDA.  Perhaps someone else remembers the details. 
I bought the story that it was just "lost in the transfer" at the
time, but this last post about a large sum being lost in the stock
market made me wonder.  I am just speculating.  Maybe both are
legitimate.  It just seems like a hard thing to prove either way which
puts a lot of cash up for grabs.  It was the course participants who
were hurt by the loss, not the movement.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > "Then, about half of that was lost in the market - bad investments 
> at
> > a rough time in the stock market." 
> > 
> > Is is just me who is skeptical of this?  I don't know how such a 
> claim
> > would be verified.  I remember when the money being wired over to
> > India was supposedly stolen, so we all ended up living in Tents
> > instead of in hotels.
> 
> 
> 
> Could you elaborate on this?
> 
> When did this happen and what were the circumstances?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >  Seems like a lot of hard luck stories with 
> > massive amounts of cash.  Maybe someone just tucked it away...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I heard that they only collected asbout $75 million of the
> > $100million (some who had 
> > > promised never paid up and a few were allowed to go on the course
> > free). Then, about half 
> > > of that was lost in the market - bad investments at a rough time 
> in
> > the stock market. 
> > > Instead of investing in really secure things, they risked the 
> money
> > and lost it.  Then several 
> > > million were needed to pay for the the yagyas and chart readings
> > that the participants 
> > > were promised - these were/are supposed to continue for the 
> lifetime
> > of the participant 
> > > and the cost was supposedly paid in full asst that time.  Major
> > yaygas on birthdays as well 
> > > as all sorts of other yayga stuff (expensive if you are paying
> > movement prices). The 
> > > remaining money was not much and, well...you know the 
> usual.  It
> > disappeared 
> > > somewhere or other to support things in Holland etc etc etc etc
> > etc--- In 
> > > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One afterthought on this. MMY spoke as though Harris and 
> Arlene's 
> > > > donation had secured the future of the Indian pundit project. 
> Yet 
> > > > their donation was a fraction of the total raised through 
> millionaire 
> > > > courses, etc. What happened to that money? Wasn't it already 
> > > > sufficient to secure the project?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>










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