[FairfieldLife] 'US fears Israeli Strike..'

2007-11-08 Thread Robert
From The Times
November 8, 2007

US fears Israeli strike against Iran over latest nuclear claim
Tom Baldwin in Washington, James Hider in Jerusalem and Francis Elliott, Deputy 
Political Editor 
A claim by President Ahmadinejad that Iran has 3,000 working uranium-enriching 
centrifuges sent a tremor across the world yesterday amid fears that Israel 
would respond by bombing the country’s nuclear facilities. 
Military sources in Washington said that the existence of such a large number 
could be a “tipping point”, triggering an Israeli air strike. The Pentagon is 
reluctant to take military action against Iran, but officials say that Israel 
is a “different matter”. Amid the international uproar, British MPs who were to 
have toured the nuclear facility were backing out of their Iran trip. 
Even before President Ahmadinejad’s announcement, a US defence official told 
The Times yesterday: “Israel could do something when they get to around 3,000 
working centrifuges. The Pentagon is minded to wait a little longer.” US 
experts say 3,000 machines running for long periods could make enough enriched 
uranium for an atomic bomb within a year. 
Israel responded by serving notice that it would not tolerate a nuclear Iran. 
“Talks never did, and never will, stop rockets,” said Ehud Barak, the Defence 
Minister, after talks with the security cabinet. 
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The US and Western allies believe that Iran is using its civilian nuclear 
programme as a cover for weapon development. Tehran says that it merely wants 
to generate electricity. 
Concern about Israel’s intentions has been heightened by its recent air strike 
on a suspected nuclear plant in Syria. In 1981 Israel destroyed Saddam 
Hussein’s Iraqi nuclear reactor, and as the sole — if undeclared — nuclear 
power in the region, it now considers Iran the most serious threat to its 
security. Mr Ahmadinejad has called for Israel to be “wiped off the map”. 
Efraim Inbar, of the Begin-Sadat Centre for Strategic Studies in Tel Aviv, said 
that the figure of 3,000 centrifuges would signal the ability of Israel’s 
arch-foe to produce the nuclear material needed for a warhead. “I wouldn’t be 
surprised if we do something if the international community leaves us alone,” 
he said. “I think we [Israel] are preparing for it. For Israel this is a 
critical technological moment.” 
Tehran says it plans to expand its enrichment programme to up to 54,000 
centrifuges at Natanz in central Iran, which would amount to industrial-scale 
uranium enrichment. 
Mr Ahmadinejad, speaking yesterday at a rally, said that UN sanctions had 
failed to halt uranium enrichment. “The world must know that this nation will 
not give up one iota of its nuclear rights . . . if they think they can get 
concessions from this nation, they are badly mistaken,” he said. He has in the 
past claimed that Iran succeeded in installing the 3,000 centrifuges at its 
uranium enrichment facility but yesterday’s speech was the first time he had 
said all of them were now operational. 
The International Atomic Energy Authority recently put the figure at closer to 
2,000, with another 650 being tested. The IAEA said yesterday: “We will be 
publishing a report next week. We will not make any comment about this until 
then.” Javier Solana, the EU foreign policy chief, is shortly to report on 
Iran’s willingness to give up uranium enrichment in exchange for political and 
trade incentives. 
In London, at least five members of the Commons Foreign Affairs Committee were 
refusing to take part in the planned trip to Iran, arguing that it would hand 
the regime a propaganda coup. The visit, to begin on Sunday, would be the first 
by a select committee since 15 British Service personnel were held in March. 
That incident and evidence that the regime is supporting insurgencies in 
Afghanistan and Iraq and planning to build a nuclear bomb has strained 
relations with Britain. 
About eight MPs, from all three main parties, are still planning to spend four 
days in Iran next week. 
Eric Illsley, a Labour MP who is one of those to have pulled out, said: “I 
really don’t fancy having pictures of me next to an Iranian nuclear facility 
beamed around the world.” 
— Intelligence agencies have begun to vet all foreign postgraduates applying to 
study sensitive scientific subjects in Britain. The aim is to prevent Iranian 
students getting expertise in fields related to producing weapons of mass 
destruction. Sixty Iranians have been refused university places this year.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Robert Gimbel
 (snip)
 I have no objections to being Goering, or Hitler, or anyone else, 
 you understand -- I am just trying to be clear about the actual 
 experience and its possible ramifications.  
 (Snip)

For whatever it's worth, from my information on a couple of the dudes 
mentioned...
I feel that I  met the reincarnation of Herman Goering, in Madison, Wi. 
a few years ago...haven't been in touch with him/her, lately though. He 
goes by the name 'Michelle' now; and is a transexual. Karma can be a 
bitch!
Adolf, I felt I  met in Sedona, Az. a few years back...haven't been in 
touch with him lately, either.
Last time I saw him, he was living in a very messy trailer; kind of 
felt (very) haunted; 
He is quite short physically, is part Mexican, likes to smoke weed, and 
is still quite the authoritarian...
Last time I was there he(sic) was very involved in a theater group 
there, in Sedona.

Another tid-bit about Sedona(John McCain lives there now, I heard...
Anyway,  if you ever have the chance to go there, and have some extra 
time, and transportation, go west of town a bit;
There's a state park outside of 'Cottonwood, AZ., where I swear the 
jakolopes live...those are the rabbits with the antlers on there 
heads...They're supposed to be a myth, but I saw them there, with my 
own eyes! No kiddding.
They especially like to come out at around dusk(which is when I saw 
them...and besides, the sunsets can be incredible out there, really 
blissful.
That's all for now, over and out. 
r.g.



[FairfieldLife] Attention Vampires, or I demand that you reply to me

2007-11-08 Thread TurquoiseB
 You asked me to do something, I did it, and you don't 
 give me the courtesy of a response.

 You still haven't given me your opinion on the two 
 'Natural Law' articles.

 Rick, did you see my post in which I addressed all
 the reasons that have been given for ...? I didn't 
 see any response from you.

 But what I find fascinating is ... the inability to 
 answer direct questions about huge claims.


Seems to me there are a lot of demands to be replied
to lately, from a lot of people.

Just a reminder: no one on this forum owes anyone a 
reply to anything they post, or to any question they ask. 
Everyone gets to decide *for themselves* whether to reply 
to any poster here, or not. Or even whether to bother to 
*read* their posts in the first place. 

On an occult level, asking questions like these, that 
are almost by definition going to lead to an extended
exchange and/or argument and trying to taunt the other
persone into replying to them is how attention vampires 
get others to focus on them, so they can get a cheap 
rush from the attention. A couple of them even say this 
occasionally without realizing that they're saying it:

 So if you can answer the below set of questions, I'd be 
 the better for it. 

 the only way to do that [force this person to change
 the way this poster thinks he should change] seems to 
 be to keep pounding away at the armor in the hope that 
 one day it'll just give way.

Attention vampire stuff. Really.


On a more practical level, here's another reason why you
might want to consider passing on a reply:

 If you played fair -- actually responded to questions, 
 I'd write to you about a ton of stuff...

:-)


Bottom line is that reading or replying to another poster
on this forum or any other is YOUR CALL. The other person
demanding your attention has nothing to say about it.

Something to remember next time you fall for a troll and
find yourself 10-15 posts deep into a draining exchange
and wonder how the hell you ever managed to get into it.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Attention Vampires, or I demand that you reply to me

2007-11-08 Thread Jason
 
   
 Oh really.??  Why the hell you post long lengthy preachy sermons on this 
forum for.??
   
 You enjoy the attention Judy gives you.
   
 Your writing is generaly good, but occasionaly you come out as an ass.

TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:57:12 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Attention Vampires, or I demand that you reply to me

   
   You asked me to do something, I did it, and you don't 
 give me the courtesy of a response.

 You still haven't given me your opinion on the two 
 'Natural Law' articles.

 Rick, did you see my post in which I addressed all
 the reasons that have been given for ...? I didn't 
 see any response from you.

 But what I find fascinating is ... the inability to 
 answer direct questions about huge claims.

Seems to me there are a lot of demands to be replied
to lately, from a lot of people.

Just a reminder: no one on this forum owes anyone a 
reply to anything they post, or to any question they ask. 
Everyone gets to decide *for themselves* whether to reply 
to any poster here, or not. Or even whether to bother to 
*read* their posts in the first place. 

On an occult level, asking questions like these, that 
are almost by definition going to lead to an extended
exchange and/or argument and trying to taunt the other
persone into replying to them is how attention vampires 
get others to focus on them, so they can get a cheap 
rush from the attention. A couple of them even say this 
occasionally without realizing that they're saying it:

Attention vampire stuff. Really.

On a more practical level, here's another reason why you
might want to consider passing on a reply:

Bottom line is that reading or replying to another poster
on this forum or any other is YOUR CALL. The other person
demanding your attention has nothing to say about it.

Something to remember next time you fall for a troll and
find yourself 10-15 posts deep into a draining exchange
and wonder how the hell you ever managed to get into it.
   
   

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[FairfieldLife] LOVE OF GOD : A MATHEMATICAL APPROACH

2007-11-08 Thread rama krishna
Absolutely amazing!
Beauty of Math!

1 x 8 + 1 = 9
12 x 8 + 2 = 98
123 x 8 + 3 = 987
1234 x 8 + 4 = 9876
12345 x 8 + 5 = 98765
123456 x 8 + 6 = 987654
1234567 x 8 + 7 = 9876543
12345678 x 8 + 8 = 98765432
123456789 x 8 + 9 = 987654321

1 x 9 + 2 = 11
12 x 9 + 3 = 111
123 x 9 + 4 = 
1234 x 9 + 5 = 1
12345 x 9 + 6 = 11
123456 x 9 + 7 = 111
1234567 x 9 + 8 = 
12345678 x 9 + 9 = 1
123456789 x 9 +10= 11

9 x 9 + 7 = 88
98 x 9 + 6 = 888
987 x 9 + 5 = 
9876 x 9 + 4 = 8
98765 x 9 + 3 = 88
987654 x 9 + 2 = 888
9876543 x 9 + 1 = 
98765432 x 9 + 0 = 8

Brilliant, isn't it?

And look at this symmetry:

1 x 1 = 1
11 x 11 = 121
111 x 111 = 12321
 x  = 1234321
1 x 1 = 123454321
11 x 11 = 12345654321
111 x 111 = 1234567654321
 x  = 123456787654321
1 x 1=123456789 87654321

Now, take a look at this...

101%

From a strictly mathematical viewpoint:

What Equals 100%?
What does it mean to give MORE than 100%?

Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?

We have all been in situations where someone wants you to 
GIVE OVER 100%.

How about ACHIEVING 101%?

What equals 100% in life?

Here's a little mathematical formula that might help
answer these questions:

If:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

Is represented as:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.

If:

H-A-R-D-W-O- R- K

8+1+18+4+23+ 15+18+11 = 98%

And:

K-N-O-W-L-E- D-G-E

11+14+15+23+ 12+5+4+7+ 5 = 96%

But:

A-T-T-I-T-U- D-E

1+20+20+9+20+ 21+4+5 = 100%

THEN, look how far the love of God will take you:

L-O-V-E-O-F- G-O-D

12+15+22+5+15+ 6+7+15+4 = 101%

Therefore, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that:

While Hard Work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will
get you there, It's the Love of God that will put you over the top!




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[FairfieldLife] View in English?

2007-11-08 Thread cardemaister

Is there something upside down here?

http://www.gypsii.com/languages.cgi

 :D



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz for Willy -- or anyone else -- but, today, especially for Willy

2007-11-08 Thread Jason Spock
 
   
 Hey Shempster, You still haven't given me your opinion on the two 'Natural 
Law' articles.
   
 Are you angry with me or something.??!!

shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:25:35 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz for Willy -- or anyone else -- but, today, 
especially for Willy

   
  ...but I was acceding to YOUR request, not Judy's. You asked me to 
do something, I did it, and you don't give me the courtesy of a 
response.

Okay. I just won't bother in the future.
   
   

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[FairfieldLife] Behind the Scenes with the Seers (was Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja)

2007-11-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest
 george.deforest@ wrote:
 
   OffWorld wrote:
   
   Great, First its the guy that gives you the runs, 
   then its monkey day (so I'll be monkeying around that day),
   and the one I look forward to the most,
   BigMammaries Day on Friday ! I love it ! Jai MahaLakshmi
  
  a friendly reminder, from our guiding light: The Laws of Manu, 
  at  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/manu-full.html 
  
  A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man 
  with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; 
  for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270
  
  translation from Barbarian:
  
  Inevitably a time will come, when one is no longer capable
  of saying anything more; therefore, dont be a low-life and 
  waste words on dissing higher teachings.
 
 Translation from Unc:
 
  original Vedic seers speaking amongst themselves 
 
 Seer 1: I hear that donations are down again.
 
 Seer 2: What, again?! How do these ignorant peons 
 expect us to eat?
 
 Seer 1: It's not just that donations are down, some
 of the people are actually *laughing* at the stories
 we make up instead of worshiping them, and us.
 
 Seer 2: H. Can't have that...if we allowed them
 to laugh or make fun at our stuff, they might stop
 paying for our lives and we'd have to work for a 
 living. H...I know...let's get our buddy Manu
 to write a new law saying that it's OK to give any-
 one who laughs at our stories a Wet Willie.
 
 Seer 1: Do you really think a Wet Willie is a strong
 enough punishment to stop them from laughing? I mean,
 some of your stuff *is* pretty laughable, for example,
 that story about Mahishaasura and Durga that you wrote:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5LtKh31m0o
 
 Seer 2: Hey! I was drunk at the time. So what if it
 doesn't make any sense? Haven't you learned yet that
 the *less* anything we write makes any sense, the
 harder the peons work to try to *make* it make sense
 and to *make* it seem spiritual, and the more donations 
 go up? I should write *all* my stuff drunk.
 
 Seer 1: A good point. But what about the Wet Willie?
 I still don't think it's strong enough. We can't let
 these guys get to thinking they can get away with 
 insulting us...uh...I mean with insulting the gods.
 I don't know about you, but I'm gettin' old and I
 haven't got any skills except for making up stupid
 stories to amuse the peons, and I don't want to have
 to spend the rest of my life as a shit-shoveler.
 
 Seer 2: Yeah, me either. Pass the soma, and put a 
 little more vodka in it this time, ferkrishnassake!
 So what should the punishment be for laughing at us...
 uh...the gods? A Melvin?
 
 Seer 1: Melvins aren't going to work, dummy...these
 guys are so poor they can't afford underwear. Have
 you ever tried to give a Melvin to someone who is
 going commando under a dhoti? Doesn't work at all.
 
 Seer 2: Well, how 'bout cutting their tongues out?
 
 Seer 1: That's good. It would certainly be a lesson
 to the other peons who might be tempted to laugh at
 us or to stop supporting us in the style to which
 we'd like to become accustomed.
 
 Seer 2: It's settled then...I'll FAX Manu right away
 and get him to write up something and post it at 
 the temple.
 
 Seer 1: Glad that's settled. Now, what do we write
 today, eh? The peons who *aren't* laughing at us
 are clamoring for another Durga story. They like
 it when she kicks ass.
 
 Seer 2: Maybe we could have her cut Ganesha's dick
 off...Ganesh's popularity is way down in the polls,
 and everybody's threatened by a guy with an elephant-
 sized dick. Whaddyathink?
 
 Seer 1: I'll have to think about it. Shit, this 
 writing an ongoing soap opera is hard work. 
 
 Seer 2: But it's a living...don't forget that. And
 we don't have to shovel shit like the peons.
 
 Seer 1: Yup, you're right. Besides, once we kick the
 bucket, who is going to remember us or any of these
 silly stories we write to amuse the peons and get
 them to feed us, anyway? It's not as if centuries
 from now people are still going to be so stupid
 that they'll look at a cheezy adventure story like 
 Durga Opens A Can Of Whupass and think it's 
 *spiritual*, right?
 
 Seer 2: Right. No matter how stupid the peons are,
 nobody is *that* stupid.

They don't sound like any seers I've ever heard of, but other than 
that its pretty damned funny!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja Broadcasts (Dhanvantari, Hanuman, Mahalakshm

2007-11-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OffWorld wrote:
  
  Great, First its the guy that gives you the runs, 
  then its monkey day (so I'll be monkeying around that day),
  and the one I look forward to the most,
  BigMammaries Day on Friday ! I love it ! Jai MahaLakshmi
 
 a friendly reminder, from our guiding light: The Laws of Manu, 
 at  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/manu-full.html 
 
 A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man 
 with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; 
 for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270

FWIW:

 ekajaatirdvijaatii.nstu vaachaa daaruNayaa kshipan.h |
 jihvaayaaH praapnuyaachchhedaM jaghanyaprabhavo hi saH 

Attempt at sandhi-vigraha and samaasa-cheda(??)(in
H-K'ish transliteration):

eka-jaatiH; dvi-jaatiiMs tu vaacaa daaruNayaa kSipan |
**jihvaayaaH praapnuyaat; chedam;** jaghanya-prabhavo hi saH

Seems like that translation is fairly accurate.






[FairfieldLife] 'Our kind of dictator?'

2007-11-08 Thread Robert
Our kind of dictator
Robert Scheer
Wednesday, November 7, 2007
 
So, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, treated ever so respectfully by George W. Bush 
throughout his administration (as highlighted by the general being the first 
Pakistani leader to ever visit Camp David), has turned out to be just another 
crummy dictator. But he was our dictator, kind of a modern, even Westernized 
one, who could stand up to all of those bearded Islamic terrorists.
Well, not exactly. Not that anyone bothered to remember but, Musharraf seized 
power in Pakistan, ending democratic rule, two years before the 9/11 attack and 
did nothing to end his nation's support of the Taliban rulers next door who 
were harboring Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda. Even before that, he was part 
of a military elite that had, as the 9/11 commission report would later 
conclude, been one of the main sponsors of the Taliban. Nor did Musharraf as 
dictator-president do anything to undermine the nutcases that he continued to 
diplomatically recognize as the legitimate rulers of Afghanistan. On 
terrorism, Pakistan helped nurture the Taliban, the 9/11 commission reported, 
adding that, Many in the government have sympathized with or provided support 
to the extremists. Musharraf agreed that bin Laden was bad. But before 9/11, 
preserving good relations with the Taliban took precedence.
True, yet after 9/11, Musharraf did provide minimal support for the U.S. 
invasion of Afghanistan in return for considerable aid and the lifting of 
sanctions imposed on Pakistan for developing nuclear weapons. Odd that a nation 
that had nuclear weapons, and which had actively supported the terrorist haven 
in Afghanistan, was welcomed back into America's good graces only three weeks 
after 9/11 - at the very same time that the Bush administration was drawing up 
plans to overthrow Saddam Hussein, who was bin Laden's sworn enemy.
Oh, and yes, sorry, Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. I forgot, there 
was that guy Curveball, the guy in Germany who told us that Hussein had those 
mobile biological weapons labs that then-Secretary of State Colin Powell relied 
on so heavily in his United Nations address. But, as CBS's 60 Minutes 
reported on Sunday, the German government had told the Bush administration very 
clearly that their great weapons expert was a just another illegal immigrant 
trying to hustle a green card.
As for nukes (the real WMD), while Iraq didn't have them, Pakistan did - at 
least 70 ready to explode - as well as the airplanes and missiles that could 
deliver them. Worse, the father of the Islamic bomb, Abdul Qadeer Khan, whom 
the 9/11 commission called Pakistan's most revered nuclear weapons expert, was 
leading the most dangerous nuclear smuggling ring ever disclosed. It was Khan 
who provided the key technology, and the uranium enrichment materials crucial 
to the nuke programs of Libya, Iran and North Korea. And it was Musharraf who 
pardoned him, made him to this day unavailable to U.S. intelligence agents and, 
after a very loose form of house arrest, recently announced that he was now, as 
in the slogan of Southwest Airlines, free to roam the country.
No problem - why hold a little nuclear proliferation against our favored 
dictator when he's doing such a good job denying al Qaeda and other religious 
fanatics a base of operations in Pakistan? Except that he did nothing of the 
sort. The all-important Pakistan territory adjoining Afghanistan is more 
hospitable now to terrorists than ever before. As for bin Laden and the other 
guys Bush was going to get dead or alive, U.S. experts routinely concede that 
those terrorists have found a safe haven on Musharraf's side of the border.
So where did the $10 billion go, and that's not counting covert funds, that 
Bush gave Musharraf to beef up his military to better combat the terrorists? 
Well, clearly the Pakistani army is very strong - just look at the martial law 
they have been able to impose on judges and other folks who actually believe in 
the rule of law. But wait, Musharraf will back down; a deal was all but 
brokered, and opposition leader Benazir Bhutto, whose adherence to democracy is 
as compelling as her family's rich history of corruption, is waiting in the 
wings.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is on the phone, so hopefully Musharraf can 
be bought off and the free world once again served by the nation Bush 
designated a major non-NATO ally. But there is a bright side, as one adviser 
traveling with Rice was quoted in the Washington Post as saying. Thank heavens 
for small favors, meaning that compared to Pakistan, Iraq looks pretty good. 
Talk about lowered expectations.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  He claims he was (see his website), or at least he claims that 
in a
  past life he was Hitler's second-in-command, who was Bormann. 
What was
  it like to be Bormann, Rory?
 
 Actually, I am wondering if you read my website very closely. I 
made no 
 such claim.
 
 I *did* say that a lot of images and emotions floated up, which I 
 tentatively identified as past-life memories, and which I 
eventually 
 identified as Herman Goering's, not Martin Bormann's. At the time, 
I 
 found this useful for making sense of emotional patterns I was 
then 
 entangled in: moving through judgement, projection, disempowerment 
and 
 anger, learning to embrace my (and everyone's) innate capacity for 
 evil, and to move from there into unconditional love. 
 
 I am not prepared to say that I *was* Herman Goering, or anyone 
else 
 for that matter, although I am prepared to say Herman Goering *is* 
a 
 part of me, as is everything and everyone else. 
 
 This feels indescribable because it's a priori, but utterly loving-
 radiant-ecstatic if I choose to externalize and put my attention 
on it; 
 thanks for asking :-)

You would not make such a claim simply because it is not physically 
possible. Goering, along with all the top nazi-fellows are enjoying 
a very long extended stay in utter and total tamas. It's not for me 
to say for how long but I gather it will be looong...




[FairfieldLife] Behind the Scenes with the Seers (was Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja)

2007-11-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OffWorld wrote:
  
  Great, First its the guy that gives you the runs, 
  then its monkey day (so I'll be monkeying around that day),
  and the one I look forward to the most,
  BigMammaries Day on Friday ! I love it ! Jai MahaLakshmi
 
 a friendly reminder, from our guiding light: The Laws of Manu, 
 at  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/manu-full.html 
 
 A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man 
 with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; 
 for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270
 
 translation from Barbarian:
 
 Inevitably a time will come, when one is no longer capable
 of saying anything more; therefore, dont be a low-life and 
 waste words on dissing higher teachings.

Translation from Unc:

 original Vedic seers speaking amongst themselves 

Seer 1: I hear that donations are down again.

Seer 2: What, again?! How do these ignorant peons 
expect us to eat?

Seer 1: It's not just that donations are down, some
of the people are actually *laughing* at the stories
we make up instead of worshiping them, and us.

Seer 2: H. Can't have that...if we allowed them
to laugh or make fun at our stuff, they might stop
paying for our lives and we'd have to work for a 
living. H...I know...let's get our buddy Manu
to write a new law saying that it's OK to give any-
one who laughs at our stories a Wet Willie.

Seer 1: Do you really think a Wet Willie is a strong
enough punishment to stop them from laughing? I mean,
some of your stuff *is* pretty laughable, for example,
that story about Mahishaasura and Durga that you wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5LtKh31m0o

Seer 2: Hey! I was drunk at the time. So what if it
doesn't make any sense? Haven't you learned yet that
the *less* anything we write makes any sense, the
harder the peons work to try to *make* it make sense
and to *make* it seem spiritual, and the more donations 
go up? I should write *all* my stuff drunk.

Seer 1: A good point. But what about the Wet Willie?
I still don't think it's strong enough. We can't let
these guys get to thinking they can get away with 
insulting us...uh...I mean with insulting the gods.
I don't know about you, but I'm gettin' old and I
haven't got any skills except for making up stupid
stories to amuse the peons, and I don't want to have
to spend the rest of my life as a shit-shoveler.

Seer 2: Yeah, me either. Pass the soma, and put a 
little more vodka in it this time, ferkrishnassake!
So what should the punishment be for laughing at us...
uh...the gods? A Melvin?

Seer 1: Melvins aren't going to work, dummy...these
guys are so poor they can't afford underwear. Have
you ever tried to give a Melvin to someone who is
going commando under a dhoti? Doesn't work at all.

Seer 2: Well, how 'bout cutting their tongues out?

Seer 1: That's good. It would certainly be a lesson
to the other peons who might be tempted to laugh at
us or to stop supporting us in the style to which
we'd like to become accustomed.

Seer 2: It's settled then...I'll FAX Manu right away
and get him to write up something and post it at 
the temple.

Seer 1: Glad that's settled. Now, what do we write
today, eh? The peons who *aren't* laughing at us
are clamoring for another Durga story. They like
it when she kicks ass.

Seer 2: Maybe we could have her cut Ganesha's dick
off...Ganesh's popularity is way down in the polls,
and everybody's threatened by a guy with an elephant-
sized dick. Whaddyathink?

Seer 1: I'll have to think about it. Shit, this 
writing an ongoing soap opera is hard work. 

Seer 2: But it's a living...don't forget that. And
we don't have to shovel shit like the peons.

Seer 1: Yup, you're right. Besides, once we kick the
bucket, who is going to remember us or any of these
silly stories we write to amuse the peons and get
them to feed us, anyway? It's not as if centuries
from now people are still going to be so stupid
that they'll look at a cheezy adventure story like 
Durga Opens A Can Of Whupass and think it's 
*spiritual*, right?

Seer 2: Right. No matter how stupid the peons are,
nobody is *that* stupid.





[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today

2007-11-08 Thread Jason
 
   
  Do you think a true Rishi would bother about people jumping ships.??
   
  All he has to do is to teach people TM and TM itself would do the rest.
   
  Why should a true Rishi try to flatter Goofs.??  Why should he associate 
himself with Goofs.??  A man is known by the company he keeps.??

bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:20:16 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today

   
  MMY did not begin his work halfway thru the Sat Yuga, when folks are 
smart and friendly, but in the Kali Yuga, when people are weak and 
stupid in every way. If MMY has to flatter goofs to keep them from 
jumping ship, then that's the way it's got to be. But, really, all 
people are made in the image of God, so if you want to salute the 
godliness in them, that's ultimately true anyway. Also, MMY is making 
it clear that administration from the level of the consitution of the 
universe is not really administration at all:

'When there was lot of administration, there was a lot of controversy 
to be reconciled here and there and there so far. So for the assembly 
of mankind there was administration needed, but now today that 
administration will be just a name, and a name may show some shadow 
of it. But in reality the world is going to be administered on its 
own which is the ultimate level of, for want of a word we say, Being, 
Being, Being, Being.'

http://www.globalgo odnews.com/ world-peace- a.html?art= 1193940660953239 
   
   
   

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[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today

2007-11-08 Thread Jason
 
   
  I don't think Maharishi really understands the realities of past 300 
years of Industrial Civilisation.
   
  I don't think he really understands how the human civilisation evolved 
right from pre-agricultural days.
   
  He sees everything through the prism of the Vedas and tries to co-relate 
everything from that aspect alone ignoring alternate versions of reality.!!

hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:54:42 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
   
   
  I can't bear to be in the same room as the Maharishi channel anymore 
in case someone I know sees me and thinks I approve.

Some might think that's an overreaction but I'm hardly alone. Here's 
a funny story; On one of the last residential courses in England a 
couple who had just learned to meditate turned up for their first 
taste of rounding, they sat down to dinner and had apparently had a 
nice time talking to the rest of the CP's. Then they met the teacher 
running the course who explained what they were going to be doing, 
gave them there program etc. After that they sat down to the first 
meeting of the weekend where upon the teacher put on a tape of King 
Tony espousing his infinite wisdoms at which point the new couple 
looked at each other, stood up, walked out of the room, packed their 
bags and left, never to be seen again.

How does the TMO get it so wrong? And without even realising that 
most people think the raja concept absurdly cultish. Are they on a 
mission to alienate all but the most devout?

   
   

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja Broadcasts (Dhanvantari, Hanuman, Mahalakshm

2007-11-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OffWorld wrote:
  
  Great, First its the guy that gives you the runs, 
  then its monkey day (so I'll be monkeying around that day),
  and the one I look forward to the most,
  BigMammaries Day on Friday ! I love it ! Jai MahaLakshmi
 
 a friendly reminder, from our guiding light: The Laws of Manu, 
 at  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/manu-full.html 
 
 A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man 
 with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; 
 for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270
 
 translation from Barbarian:
 
 Inevitably a time will come, when one is no longer capable
 of saying anything more; therefore, dont be a low-life and 
 waste words on dissing higher teachings.

Cuz higher and dissing are all in the eyes of the beholder?  

Cuz we don't live in a barbaric culture that suppresses free speech?

Cuz Main is often very funny so if this one didn't hit your funny
bone, another probably will?

Cuz if there was a God wouldn't he be at least as non-touchy as a well
adjusted adult?

Cuz caste suppressive threats are evil, one of the lowest teachings
humans have invented? 








[FairfieldLife] Re: Weather Channel founder: Global Warming greatest scam in history!

2007-11-08 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/comments_about_global_warming/


Ha Ha Ha... John Coleman is a TV weather man [meteorologist] who
wanted to put weather reports on cable. That's his only claim to
legitimacy as a climate change denier.

The wingnuts keep grasping at straws. Keep trying, Magoo.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'US fears Israeli Strike..'

2007-11-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From The Times
 November 8, 2007
 
 US fears Israeli strike against Iran over latest nuclear claim
 Tom Baldwin in Washington, James Hider in Jerusalem and Francis 
Elliott, Deputy Political Editor 
 A claim by President Ahmadinejad that Iran has 3,000 working uranium-
enriching centrifuges sent a tremor across the world yesterday amid 
fears that Israel would respond by bombing the country's nuclear 
facilities. 

Hmmm...

kaalo 'smi loka-kSaya-kRt pravRddho
lokaan samaahartum iha pravRttaH...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Weather Channel founder: Global Warming greatest scam in history!

2007-11-08 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-
 blog/comments_about_global_warming/
  
  
  Ha Ha Ha... John Coleman is a TV weather man [meteorologist] who
  wanted to put weather reports on cable. That's his only claim to
  legitimacy as a climate change denier.
 
 
 
 Thank God we have REAL scientists like Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio 
 telling us like it is.


They get their data from massive global scientific consensus. They
don't rely on the opinions of isolated wackos. That's just about all
you've got, Magoo, isolated wackos and/or Big Oil shills. Get a clue.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Weather Channel founder: Global Warming greatest scam in history!

2007-11-08 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-
blog/comments_about_global_warming/
 
 
 Ha Ha Ha... John Coleman is a TV weather man [meteorologist] who
 wanted to put weather reports on cable. That's his only claim to
 legitimacy as a climate change denier.



Thank God we have REAL scientists like Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio 
telling us like it is.





 
 The wingnuts keep grasping at straws. Keep trying, Magoo.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Attention Vampires, or I demand that you reply to me

2007-11-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
 Seems to me there are a lot of demands to be replied
 to lately, from a lot of people.

Guilty as charged.  All I have to say in my defense is that you can't
always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you just might find
you get what you need.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You asked me to do something, I did it, and you don't 
  give me the courtesy of a response.
 
  You still haven't given me your opinion on the two 
  'Natural Law' articles.
 
  Rick, did you see my post in which I addressed all
  the reasons that have been given for ...? I didn't 
  see any response from you.
 
  But what I find fascinating is ... the inability to 
  answer direct questions about huge claims.
 
 
 Seems to me there are a lot of demands to be replied
 to lately, from a lot of people.
 
 Just a reminder: no one on this forum owes anyone a 
 reply to anything they post, or to any question they ask. 
 Everyone gets to decide *for themselves* whether to reply 
 to any poster here, or not. Or even whether to bother to 
 *read* their posts in the first place. 
 
 On an occult level, asking questions like these, that 
 are almost by definition going to lead to an extended
 exchange and/or argument and trying to taunt the other
 persone into replying to them is how attention vampires 
 get others to focus on them, so they can get a cheap 
 rush from the attention. A couple of them even say this 
 occasionally without realizing that they're saying it:
 
  So if you can answer the below set of questions, I'd be 
  the better for it. 
 
  the only way to do that [force this person to change
  the way this poster thinks he should change] seems to 
  be to keep pounding away at the armor in the hope that 
  one day it'll just give way.
 
 Attention vampire stuff. Really.
 
 
 On a more practical level, here's another reason why you
 might want to consider passing on a reply:
 
  If you played fair -- actually responded to questions, 
  I'd write to you about a ton of stuff...
 
 :-)
 
 
 Bottom line is that reading or replying to another poster
 on this forum or any other is YOUR CALL. The other person
 demanding your attention has nothing to say about it.
 
 Something to remember next time you fall for a troll and
 find yourself 10-15 posts deep into a draining exchange
 and wonder how the hell you ever managed to get into it.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'US fears Israeli Strike..'

2007-11-08 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 11/8/07 9:52:27 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  US fears Israeli strike against Iran over latest nuclear claim
 Tom  Baldwin in Washington, James Hider in Jerusalem and Francis 
Elliott,  Deputy Political Editor 
 A claim by President Ahmadinejad that Iran  has 3,000 working uranium-
enriching centrifuges sent a tremor across the  world yesterday amid 
fears that Israel would respond by bombing the  country's nuclear 
facilities. 

Hmmm...

kaalo 'smi  loka-kSaya-kRt pravRddho
lokaan samaahartum iha  pravRttaH...



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[FairfieldLife] Re: I demand that you reply to me and Additional Dynamics

2007-11-08 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Seems to me there are a lot of demands to be replied
 to lately, from a lot of people.
 
 Just a reminder: no one on this forum owes anyone a 
 reply to anything they post, or to any question they ask. 
 Everyone gets to decide *for themselves* whether to reply 
 to any poster here, or not. Or even whether to bother to 
 *read* their posts in the first place. 
 

As an ever present reminder, but often not understood, I am using my
reaction to your post to further some of my own thinking. Turq, I am
not asking you to respond.

I have said there are some posts simply not worth responding too. That
said, I think posters who respond to points about their posts, have a
manifest respect for the forum. This, IMO, is not monologue central.
Its not generally a place to post and run. Its a place for discussion.
Its through discussion, new perspectives are gained, knowledge is
shared -- both of which can expand our repertoires of learned
responses. More on that late.

While there appear to be various definitions of trolls, my working
definition of a troll is someone who makes wild statements and claims
and then runs. Repeatedly. And on one hand it is only perhaps the fool
that falls for such shallow machinations, I think it is a more complex
dynamic. Enter another not so pretty force, when taken to an extreme,
underlying a number of posts: the savior complex.

In its mild form, it can be a useful, even noble motivation, to share
insights and experience regarding a path taken -- regrettably. 
In that vein, many of us have shared traps and pitfalls we have
encountered on our journeys. And share such in the hope that others
may avoid such (if they care to do so. In its mild, helpful spirit,
this is a good motivation, IMO.

It gets out of hand when it becomes obsesssive. Turqs never-ending,
though sometimes hopeful pauses, snips at Judy are an example. And
Judy's back at Turqs. Each on a 10 year crusade to protect and save
the world from the massive harm they fear the other will have on
innocent minds. This introduces the added condescending element. Enter
Edg, and he has taken the combination of savior complex and
condescention to a massive, take no prisoners assault on mind and
senses. There other examples, everyones' own favorites, I am sure.

Another factor is a limited repertoire of appropriate and productive
responses to strange worlds. For example, a strange world for me is
the realm of the highly irrational bold faced statement. Probably,
because I am an introvert type who usually thinks, often deeply,
before speaking, working through the logic, empirical or experiental
basis of a position, before laying it out.   I realize others,
extroverts, can tend to speak first and think later. They work through
the issue by talking. The articulations of such persons can surprise
me. Forehead slapping moments. But I have come to understand this mode
of working things out, and my learned responses -- gained through
experience and study -- has increased my repertoire of productive
responses to such.  

Another forehead slapping behavior is trolling -- as I have defined
it, for me, above. Outlandish claim and run. Drive-by ridiculousness.
Though humor is another thing, I am talking about serious claims. 
Such is so counter to my nature, its sometimes hard to fathom the
dynamics, motivations and integrity of people who do such.

Some of my sensitivity to this I sense stems from my TMO days.
Outlandish claims, made -- then off to the next. Or, at least inquiry
about the claim was restricted more and more as the years went on. So,
upon reflection, I find a thread of savior complex running through
some of my responses to irrational, wild claims. To try to get to the
bottom of it -- though I most always reserve the possibility of a
reasonable explanation / reconcilliation of wild claim and fact -- I
feel -- perhaps unproductively -- a moral sense to make the absurdity
clear. Though I cringe when I see others bickering claiming a
similar moral response.   

As in most actions, they are learned responses. For example, there is
no such thing as a natural (good) tennis player -- first time on the
court. Its a set of learned skill. Not necessarily formal training, it
may be simply from trial and error experience. And all players have
limits on their learned repertoire -- of now spontaneous (yet
previously learned) reactions to various types of shots to them. And
all, even the 10 ten in the world, can always improve their
repertoire, refine their learned responses.

Same with facing fore-head-slapping circumstances in life and in
forums. New responses, more productive responses can be sought and
acquired. Tying this to the above savior-complex -- beyond the OK/good
mild forms -- to whose benefit is one, am I, seeking to clarify the
ridiculous -- that is, that something, some claims, some positions are
 absurd or massively contradictory. Some condescension 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:35 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

 

You would not make such a claim simply because it is not physically 
possible. Goering, along with all the top nazi-fellows are enjoying 
a very long extended stay in utter and total tamas. It's not for me 
to say for how long but I gather it will be looong...

Do you have a hot line to hell? What qualifies you to say with certainty
where any deceased person is now or how long they will be there?


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[FairfieldLife] It aint spiritual but....

2007-11-08 Thread hugheshugo


it is the best drum solo ever!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I8cvKImVadE



[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
a hot line to hell

Thanks for my next song title Rick!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:35 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
 
  
 
 You would not make such a claim simply because it is not physically 
 possible. Goering, along with all the top nazi-fellows are enjoying 
 a very long extended stay in utter and total tamas. It's not for me 
 to say for how long but I gather it will be looong...
 
 Do you have a hot line to hell? What qualifies you to say with certainty
 where any deceased person is now or how long they will be there?
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:35 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
 
  
 
 You would not make such a claim simply because it is not 
physically 
 possible. Goering, along with all the top nazi-fellows are 
enjoying 
 a very long extended stay in utter and total tamas. It's not for 
me 
 to say for how long but I gather it will be looong...
 
 Do you have a hot line to hell? What qualifies you to say with 
certainty
 where any deceased person is now or how long they will be there?

Read it again, I did not write what you claim, neither where 
tamas is nor how long they'll enjoy their stay. You did as usual 
not get the facts correct.
 
But, haha, careful now Mr. Archer or I'll just let you know the 
carma for rumourmonging ! ;-) 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:35 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
 
  
 
  You would not make such a claim simply because it is not
  physically possible. Goering, along with all the top 
  nazi-fellows are enjoying a very long extended stay in 
  utter and total tamas. It's not for me to say for how 
  long but I gather it will be looong...
 
 Do you have a hot line to hell? 

Yep, he does: http://shareintl.org/




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:30 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

 

a hot line to hell

Thanks for my next song title Rick!

Do I get a commission? How about an autographed T-Shirt?


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[FairfieldLife] Re: It aint spiritual but....

2007-11-08 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo 
 richardhughes103@ wrote:
 
  
  
  it is the best drum solo ever!
  
  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I8cvKImVadE
 
 
 Not spiritual? what was I thinking! Music is the essence of 
spiritual. 
 Drumming was the first music. This is the pinnacle of that. Buddy 
was a 
 Zen master, and where drumming is both a destination and a goal, 
he 
 achieved true and exhilirating art that transcends mere timing and 
 technical considerations. Wildly exciting if you get it. Maybe I'm 
a 
 shamanistic animist or something, whatever I feel better watching 
that 
 than I do meditating most days.


Buddy's technique was nothing short of amazing, but for
some reason his playing sounds - at least most of the time - to me 
rather dry; too much vaata, or stuff. That's about the only way I 
can describe what Buddy's playing feels like to me.



[FairfieldLife] Re: It aint spiritual but....

2007-11-08 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 it is the best drum solo ever!
 
 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I8cvKImVadE


Not spiritual? what was I thinking! Music is the essence of spiritual. 
Drumming was the first music. This is the pinnacle of that. Buddy was a 
Zen master, and where drumming is both a destination and a goal, he 
achieved true and exhilirating art that transcends mere timing and 
technical considerations. Wildly exciting if you get it. Maybe I'm a 
shamanistic animist or something, whatever I feel better watching that 
than I do meditating most days.



[FairfieldLife] Less Homework, More Yoga, From a Principal Who Hates Stress

2007-11-08 Thread rama krishna
A Story of how Needham High School , Mass., is using yoga and other relaxation 
techniques to help students fight stress : 
   
  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/education/29stress.html
   
   
  It was 6:30 p.m. The lights were still on at Needham High School, here in the 
affluent Boston suburbs. Paul Richards, the principal, was meeting with the 
Stress Reduction Committee.On the agenda: finding the right time to bring in 
experts to train students in relaxation techniques.Don’t try to have them teach 
relaxation in study hall, said Olivia Boyd, a senior. Students, she explained, 
won’t want to interrupt their work. They were already too busy before or after 
school for the training.No one is busier than Josh Goldman. Captain of varsity 
tennis, president of the Spanish club and a member of the student council and 
the Stress Reduction Committee, Josh was not able to squeeze in the meeting at 
all.
  Mr. Richards noted his absence wryly. “Josh is a perfect example,” he said. 
“He’s got a hundred things going on.”Here is the high-powered culture that Mr. 
Richards is trying to change, even if only a little.But cultural change does 
not come smoothly. When Mr. Richards stopped publishing the honor roll in the 
local newspaper last winter, a move aimed at some parents who had turned the 
lists into a public accounting, Rush Limbaugh accused him of politically 
correct coddling of students, and Jay Leno mocked the school on national 
television. He received hate mail from all over the country.Mr. Richards is 
undeterred. “It’s not that I’m trying to turn the culture upside down,” he 
said. “It’s very important to protect the part of the culture that leads to all 
the achievement,” he said. “It’s more about bringing the culture to a healthier 
place.”His new stress committee is starting to come up with recommendations, 
like the relaxation consultants, and is surveying students about
 unhealthy stress. This term, Mr. Richards is talking up the yoga classes that 
are required of all seniors. He has asked teachers to schedule homework-free 
weekends and holidays. 
  “The irony,” he said, referring to the homework breaks, “is that students 
tell us they appreciate the time because it allows them to catch up on other 
schoolwork.”
  Mr. Richards is just one principal in the vanguard of a movement to push back 
against an ethos of super-achievement at affluent suburban high schools amid 
the extreme competition over college admissions. He has joined like-minded 
administrators from 44 other high schools and middle schools — most in the San 
Francisco Bay Area but others scattered from Texas to New York — to form a 
group known as S.O.S., for Stressed Out Students. 
  The group was formed four years ago by Denise Pope, a lecturer at the 
Stanford University School of Education and author of the book, “Doing School: 
How We Are Creating a Generation of Stressed Out, Materialistic and Miseducated 
Students” (Yale University Press, 2001).
   
  High schools in other Boston suburbs — Wellesley, Lexington, Wayland — have 
taken steps similar to Needham’s, organizing stress committees and yoga 
classes. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 It has been brought up before that all too often people attempting 
 to view their past lives will conclude that they were someone 
 famous. I understand you are not doing this (since that is what you 
 just said-lol), but I wonder if the reason people make this error 
is 
 because the words, appearance, and actions of famous people are 
 multiplied by all of the consciousnesses observing them, and as 
such 
 gain a greater share of the psychic record so to speak. Easier to 
 tune in- stronger, clearer transmission.

Yes, could well be. 

The bottom line as I see it is, all of these conjectures still entail 
identifying with a self that believes itself to be *within* 
spacetime -- if anything, adding to, embellishing that story.

Hence, we might argue, essentially a waste of time, if one thinks any 
of this will actually free one from the pain of false-
identification :-)







[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:35 AM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
  
   
  
   You would not make such a claim simply because it is not
   physically possible. Goering, along with all the top 
   nazi-fellows are enjoying a very long extended stay in 
   utter and total tamas. It's not for me to say for how 
   long but I gather it will be looong...
  
  Do you have a hot line to hell? 
 
 Yep, he does: http://shareintl.org/

No, that's the hotline to wisdom...




[FairfieldLife] Re: It aint spiritual but....

2007-11-08 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo 
 richardhughes103@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo 
  richardhughes103@ wrote:
  
   
   
   it is the best drum solo ever!
   
   http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I8cvKImVadE
  
  
  Not spiritual? what was I thinking! Music is the essence of 
 spiritual. 
  Drumming was the first music. This is the pinnacle of that. Buddy 
 was a 
  Zen master, and where drumming is both a destination and a goal, 
 he 
  achieved true and exhilirating art that transcends mere timing 
and 
  technical considerations. Wildly exciting if you get it. Maybe 
I'm 
 a 
  shamanistic animist or something, whatever I feel better watching 
 that 
  than I do meditating most days.
 
 
 Buddy's technique was nothing short of amazing, but for
 some reason his playing sounds - at least most of the time - to me 
 rather dry; too much vaata, or stuff. That's about the only way I 
 can describe what Buddy's playing feels like to me.


Really? interesting. I only pick up the energy, it really lifts me, 
some drummers just sound technical but I never notice that with him. 
Different eyes see different things. I'm a little bit kapha so maybe 
that's it. Hmmm the ayurveda of musical preferences.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Nov 8, 2007, at 2:22 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
 
  you crack me up!
 
 35, Jim.  Hasta la vista until Saturday.
 
 Sal

I was waiting for you to say that...sayonara, mom



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Rory Goff rorygoff@  wrote:
 
   IMO and IME, hell *is* the hotline to wisdom
  
  :-)
 
  jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
 
  yes, very much so-- to hell and gone is more than just an idle 
  phrase
 
 DAMN, that's brilliant!
 
 :-)

Would that be like you expressing the shun-shine of your love?

PS Sal, I borrowed one of your posts for this and my previous comment. 
You always have about 30 of 'em lying around anyway unused each week, 
and so I appreciate in advance your spirit of generosity. In fact, 
I'll make a deal with you; you continue to remind me when I've reached 
my exact limit of posts-- I'm cool with that-- and I'll use a few of 
your perennially unused posts if need be. OK? I'll just assume it is. 
Thanks!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Nov 8, 2007, at 2:22 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:


you crack me up!


35, Jim.  Hasta la vista until Saturday.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Rory Goff

Rory Goff rorygoff@  wrote:

  IMO and IME, hell *is* the hotline to wisdom
 
 :-)

 jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yes, very much so-- to hell and gone is more than just an idle 
 phrase

DAMN, that's brilliant!

:-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
  j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
   
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:35 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

 

 You would not make such a claim simply because it is not
 physically possible. Goering, along with all the top 
 nazi-fellows are enjoying a very long extended stay in 
 utter and total tamas. It's not for me to say for how 
 long but I gather it will be looong...

Do you have a hot line to hell? 
   
   Yep, he does: http://shareintl.org/
  
  No, that's the hotline to wisdom...
 
 IMO and IME, hell *is* the hotline to wisdom
 
 
 :-)

yes, very much so-- to hell and gone is more than just an idle 
phrase



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'US fears Israeli Strike..'

2007-11-08 Thread John
This scenario is very likely as Iran continues its present stance.  
IMO, the Israelis have already prepared for this inevitability.  It's 
only a matter of time.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From The Times
 November 8, 2007
 
 US fears Israeli strike against Iran over latest nuclear claim
 Tom Baldwin in Washington, James Hider in Jerusalem and Francis 
Elliott, Deputy Political Editor 
 A claim by President Ahmadinejad that Iran has 3,000 working 
uranium-enriching centrifuges sent a tremor across the world 
yesterday amid fears that Israel would respond by bombing the 
country's nuclear facilities. 
 Military sources in Washington said that the existence of such a 
large number could be a tipping point, triggering an Israeli air 
strike. The Pentagon is reluctant to take military action against 
Iran, but officials say that Israel is a different matter. Amid the 
international uproar, British MPs who were to have toured the nuclear 
facility were backing out of their Iran trip. 
 Even before President Ahmadinejad's announcement, a US defence 
official told The Times yesterday: Israel could do something when 
they get to around 3,000 working centrifuges. The Pentagon is minded 
to wait a little longer. US experts say 3,000 machines running for 
long periods could make enough enriched uranium for an atomic bomb 
within a year. 
 Israel responded by serving notice that it would not tolerate a 
nuclear Iran. Talks never did, and never will, stop rockets, said 
Ehud Barak, the Defence Minister, after talks with the security 
cabinet. 
 Related Links
 Oil fuels Iran's nuclear confidence 
 Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran 
 The US and Western allies believe that Iran is using its civilian 
nuclear programme as a cover for weapon development. Tehran says that 
it merely wants to generate electricity. 
 Concern about Israel's intentions has been heightened by its recent 
air strike on a suspected nuclear plant in Syria. In 1981 Israel 
destroyed Saddam Hussein's Iraqi nuclear reactor, and as the sole — 
if undeclared — nuclear power in the region, it now considers Iran 
the most serious threat to its security. Mr Ahmadinejad has called 
for Israel to be wiped off the map. 
 Efraim Inbar, of the Begin-Sadat Centre for Strategic Studies in 
Tel Aviv, said that the figure of 3,000 centrifuges would signal the 
ability of Israel's arch-foe to produce the nuclear material needed 
for a warhead. I wouldn't be surprised if we do something if the 
international community leaves us alone, he said. I think we 
[Israel] are preparing for it. For Israel this is a critical 
technological moment. 
 Tehran says it plans to expand its enrichment programme to up to 
54,000 centrifuges at Natanz in central Iran, which would amount to 
industrial-scale uranium enrichment. 
 Mr Ahmadinejad, speaking yesterday at a rally, said that UN 
sanctions had failed to halt uranium enrichment. The world must know 
that this nation will not give up one iota of its nuclear 
rights . . . if they think they can get concessions from this nation, 
they are badly mistaken, he said. He has in the past claimed that 
Iran succeeded in installing the 3,000 centrifuges at its uranium 
enrichment facility but yesterday's speech was the first time he had 
said all of them were now operational. 
 The International Atomic Energy Authority recently put the figure 
at closer to 2,000, with another 650 being tested. The IAEA said 
yesterday: We will be publishing a report next week. We will not 
make any comment about this until then. Javier Solana, the EU 
foreign policy chief, is shortly to report on Iran's willingness to 
give up uranium enrichment in exchange for political and trade 
incentives. 
 In London, at least five members of the Commons Foreign Affairs 
Committee were refusing to take part in the planned trip to Iran, 
arguing that it would hand the regime a propaganda coup. The visit, 
to begin on Sunday, would be the first by a select committee since 15 
British Service personnel were held in March. That incident and 
evidence that the regime is supporting insurgencies in Afghanistan 
and Iraq and planning to build a nuclear bomb has strained relations 
with Britain. 
 About eight MPs, from all three main parties, are still planning to 
spend four days in Iran next week. 
 Eric Illsley, a Labour MP who is one of those to have pulled out, 
said: I really don't fancy having pictures of me next to an Iranian 
nuclear facility beamed around the world. 
 — Intelligence agencies have begun to vet all foreign postgraduates 
applying to study sensitive scientific subjects in Britain. The aim 
is to prevent Iranian students getting expertise in fields related to 
producing weapons of mass destruction. Sixty Iranians have been 
refused university places this year.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz for Willy -- or anyone else -- but, today, especially for Willy

2007-11-08 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  

  Hey Shempster, You still haven't given me your opinion on the 
two 'Natural Law' articles.

  Are you angry with me or something.??!!




No, it's just that the two articles in question were quite long and I 
didn't have either the time or inclination to respond to them.

Plus, they were unsolicited.

Duveyoung asked me -- actually, rather, challenged me -- to respond 
to a youtube video, which I CHOSE to take the time to look at and 
respond.






 
 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:25:35 -
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz for Willy -- or anyone else -- 
but, today, especially for Willy
 

   ...but I was acceding to YOUR request, not Judy's. You asked me 
to 
 do something, I did it, and you don't give me the courtesy of a 
 response.
 
 Okay. I just won't bother in the future.


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread mathatbrahman
--
Mainstay of the Wehrmacht:
http://www.military-collections.com/weapons.html



- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rory:
 I am not prepared to say that I *was* Herman Goering, or anyone 
else 
 for that matter, although I am prepared to say Herman Goering *is* 
a 
 part of me, as is everything and everyone else
 
 *Spin*
  
 Rory:
 This feels indescribable because it's a priori, but utterly loving-
 radiant-ecstatic if I choose to externalize and put my attention on 
 it; thanks for asking :-)
 
 *Meister*
 
 *lurk*





[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz for Willy

2007-11-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote:
 Are or were you a TM initiator, governor, siddha?
 
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/confessions.htm



[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Rory Goff rorygoff@  wrote:
 
   IMO and IME, hell *is* the hotline to wisdom
  
  :-)
 
  jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
 
  yes, very much so-- to hell and gone is more than just an idle 
  phrase
 
 DAMN, that's brilliant!
 
 :-)

you crack me up!



[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today

2007-11-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

   I don't think Maharishi really understands the realities of 
past 300 years of Industrial Civilisation.

   I don't think he really understands how the human civilisation 
evolved right from pre-agricultural days.

   He sees everything through the prism of the Vedas and tries to 
co-relate everything from that aspect alone ignoring alternate 
versions of reality.!!
 
That's one way of looking at it-- my take is that he's too busy 
kicking the ever loving sh*t out of industrial civilization to bother 
with it much. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz for Willy -- or anyone else -- but, today, especially for Willy

2007-11-08 Thread Duveyoung
Shemp,

I did respond to you.

I told you very clearly that Judy was calling you to accounts quite
well enough.  Perhaps you think I would offer easier to respond to
concepts than she?  Too hot in her kitchen fer ya?  You flat out lost
your debate with her.

Doesn't matter cuz, when directly asked to consider global warming in
a matrix, you ignored that and tried to change it into a we have to
bomb Iran matrix.  This is intellectually unfair, and additionally,
something I predicted you would do.

Now, get this, you're harranging me for not responding when in the
past you have universally flamed me in numerous mannners?  

Pick a side, Dude.

Just in case you still didn't get it, I'm telling you that you did not
step up to the plate and so I cannot comment on whether you hit a home
run or struck out.  

But we all know you'd have struck out, otherwise why the attempt to
change the conversation?  You ain't got the balls to admit you're
unable to defend a position, and you think we're dumb enough to be
diverted by a simple issue-changing ruse?

This is a sign that you are not sensing the general all around
alacrity of the minds here, and when faced with someone out-thinking
you, you immediately go to diversions, ploys, flames, snide blurbs, etc.

In fact, everyone knows I'm wasting yet another post on you.

I'll keep therapeutically working on whatever my karma is that
attracts the likes of you.  Must deserve ya -- onliest thingy I can
figure is that I was a toad in my last lifetime to deserve the
intellectual warts you're voguing with.  MY EYES MY EYES!

Looks to be a long haul with a world-class psychologist to get clarity
about how your brain can trigger mine with such obvious corruptions of
logic that are the axioms of your claptrap, but geeze, I hope I never
write to you again -- no matter how hot your flames.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ 
 wrote:
 
   
 
   Hey Shempster, You still haven't given me your opinion on the 
 two 'Natural Law' articles.
 
   Are you angry with me or something.??!!
 
 
 
 
 No, it's just that the two articles in question were quite long and I 
 didn't have either the time or inclination to respond to them.
 
 Plus, they were unsolicited.
 
 Duveyoung asked me -- actually, rather, challenged me -- to respond 
 to a youtube video, which I CHOSE to take the time to look at and 
 respond.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:25:35 -
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz for Willy -- or anyone else -- 
 but, today, especially for Willy
  
 
...but I was acceding to YOUR request, not Judy's. You asked me 
 to 
  do something, I did it, and you don't give me the courtesy of a 
  response.
  
  Okay. I just won't bother in the future.
 
 
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'US fears Israeli Strike..'

2007-11-08 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 11/8/07 1:25:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This  scenario is very likely as Iran continues its present stance. 
IMO, the  Israelis have already prepared for this inevitability. It's 
only a matter  of time.



What you might find is that Israel takes the initiative to take out or at  
least try to take out Iran's nuclear facilities. Then Iran retaliates against  
Israel and then the US finishes off the job Israel started by hitting all  
military targets  in Iran including their ports and  only refinery.  



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
  
   From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
   Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:35 AM
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?
   

   
You would not make such a claim simply because it is not
physically possible. Goering, along with all the top 
nazi-fellows are enjoying a very long extended stay in 
utter and total tamas. It's not for me to say for how 
long but I gather it will be looong...
   
   Do you have a hot line to hell? 
  
  Yep, he does: http://shareintl.org/
 
 No, that's the hotline to wisdom...

IMO and IME, hell *is* the hotline to wisdom


:-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Rory:
I am not prepared to say that I *was* Herman Goering, or anyone else 
for that matter, although I am prepared to say Herman Goering *is* a 
part of me, as is everything and everyone else

*Spin*
 
Rory:
This feels indescribable because it's a priori, but utterly loving-
radiant-ecstatic if I choose to externalize and put my attention on 
it; thanks for asking :-)

*Meister*

*lurk*




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'US fears Israeli Strike..'

2007-11-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This scenario is very likely as Iran continues its present stance.  
 IMO, the Israelis have already prepared for this inevitability.  
It's 
 only a matter of time.

Indeed the time is fast approaching when the terrorist state of Israel 
might have to be evacuated.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
  j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
   
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:35 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

 

 You would not make such a claim simply because it is not
 physically possible. Goering, along with all the top 
 nazi-fellows are enjoying a very long extended stay in 
 utter and total tamas. It's not for me to say for how 
 long but I gather it will be looong...

Do you have a hot line to hell? 
   
   Yep, he does: http://shareintl.org/
  
  No, that's the hotline to wisdom...
 
 IMO and IME, hell *is* the hotline to wisdom
 
 
 :-)

If this world is hell I will agree... ;-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 *Spin*
snip

 *Meister*
 
 *lurk*

Actually, I think that was Goebbels





[FairfieldLife] Reading FFL Posts

2007-11-08 Thread lurkernomore20002000
I used to read the posts sequentially, (not by topic).  Suddenly I 
can't do that.  I would read the posts by visiting the FFL Home Page, 
(not via e-mail).  I can't seem to get back to that sequential mode.  
Anyone know what happened, or how I can get back to my familiar mode?

Thank You.

Your Friend Lurk



[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  It has been brought up before that all too often people 
attempting 
  to view their past lives will conclude that they were someone 
  famous. I understand you are not doing this (since that is what 
you 
  just said-lol), but I wonder if the reason people make this 
error 
 is 
  because the words, appearance, and actions of famous people are 
  multiplied by all of the consciousnesses observing them, and as 
 such 
  gain a greater share of the psychic record so to speak. Easier 
to 
  tune in- stronger, clearer transmission.
 
 Yes, could well be. 
 
 The bottom line as I see it is, all of these conjectures still 
entail 
 identifying with a self that believes itself to be *within* 
 spacetime -- if anything, adding to, embellishing that story.
 
 Hence, we might argue, essentially a waste of time, if one thinks 
any 
 of this will actually free one from the pain of false-
 identification :-)

yeah exactly, why bother? Its a fanciful game played at the expense 
of becoming truly free, charting one's bondage further through time 
and space; Queen Victoria==Jackie O.==Britney Spears==wtf? 

So what is your take on the various Lamas of Tibet who can track 
their incarnations backwards and forwards through time? Seems to 
serve as some sort of example to their religion, and I've heard it 
claimed here on FFL that they do it in an enlightened state to 
continue to serve humanity. 

Personally and I mean no disrespect to them, but there seems to be 
an anal retentive vibe about it. I know that sounds terrible, but I 
cannot conceive of tracking my soul through time like that, each 
time incarnating essentially into the same role. 

If we truly have all possibilities available, why limit ourselves to 
yet another human body in the same spiritual tradition? Unless that 
tradition is so amazingly rich that many incarnations are needed to 
achieve some sort of ultimate state? I dunno, just seems very 
limiting somehow.

There are some students of Buddhist life here-- can anyone please 
comment on this? 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rory:
 I am not prepared to say that I *was* Herman Goering, or anyone 
else 
 for that matter, although I am prepared to say Herman Goering *is* 
a 
 part of me, as is everything and everyone else
 
 *Spin*
  
 Rory:
 This feels indescribable because it's a priori, but utterly loving-
 radiant-ecstatic if I choose to externalize and put my attention 
on 
 it; thanks for asking :-)
 
 *Meister*
 
 *lurk*

Wouldn't it only be spin if it provided Rory some sort of one-sided 
advantage to do so? That is my understanding of spin, or bias. If 
you analyze his writing, you'll find that there is no spin, that he 
in fact experiences the world accurately as a microcosm and 
macrocosm of himself. He supports both the good and bad in 
himself; the world, without favoring either for a predictive 
outcome.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread emptybill



In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:

It has been brought up before that all too often people attempting
to view their past lives will conclude that they were someone famous.

Emptybill:

This generalization is an old but undeserved criticism because it is
nothing but pure, unfounded speculation. Actual testimony from subjects
participating in both individual and group sessions of past life recall
is just the opposite of this statement and its claims.  Helen Wambach
did research on about 1000 individuals and around 10,000 people in
various group settings. The vast majority of these participants reported
past lives as simple peasants or farmers, living in small villages or in
the countryside with no formal education and little social influence
within the cultural milieu of the given lifetime.

   Dr. Helen Wambach (Ph.D.) was one of the earliest scientific
researchers into past lives and reincaration. She was the author of
Reliving Past Lives and Life Before Life (both published in 1978 by
Bantam paperback books). The updated Reliving Past Lives: The Evidence
Under Hypnosis  was published in 1984.

Initially motivated by a desire to debunk reincarnation, beginning in
the mid-1960s, Helen Wambach conducted a 10-year survey of past-life
recalls under hypnosis among 1,088 subjects. She asked very specific
questions about the time periods in which people lived and the clothing,
footwear, utensils, money, housing, etc. which they used or came in
contact with. Wambach concluded found peoples' recollections to be
amazingly accurate and wrote that ''fantasy and genetic memory could not
account for the patterns that emerged in the results. With the exception
of 11 subjects, all descriptions of clothing, footwear and utensils were
consistent with historical records.'' 
http://www.victorzammit.com/book/chapter24.html

By doing a scientific analysis on the past lives reported by her 10,000
plus volunteers she came up with some startling evidence in favor of
reincarnation:

• 50.6 % of the past lives reported were male and 49.4 % were female
— this is exactly in accordance with biological fact.

• The number of people reporting upper class or comfortable lives
was in exactly the same proportion to the estimates of historians of the
class distribution of the period.

• The recall by subjects of clothing, footwear, type of food and
utensils used was better than that in popular history books. She found
over and over again that her subjects knew better than most historians
— when she went to obscure experts her subjects were invariably
correct.

While the evidence from these viewing does not constitute any final
proof of reincarnation, it does belie your true 'cuz it must be
assertion.






[FairfieldLife] Behind the Scenes with the Seers (was Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja)

2007-11-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 I'm gettin' old and I haven't got any skills except 
 for making up stupid stories to amuse the peons...

Yeah, write!

You need to get some smarts, Barry - the Manu smriti 
was probably written in 200 A.D., and contains many 
interpolations. According to Romila Thapar, probably 
only 1,214 verses are authentic. In contrast, the 
Vedics who spoke Sanskrit composed the Vedas before 
1500 B.C. You are supposed to read the books BEFORE 
you post your comments.

 Translation from Unc:
 
  original Vedic seers speaking amongst themselves 
 
 Seer 1: I hear that donations are down again.
 
 Seer 2: What, again?! How do these ignorant peons 
 expect us to eat?
 
 Seer 1: It's not just that donations are down, some
 of the people are actually *laughing* at the stories
 we make up instead of worshiping them, and us.
 
 Seer 2: H. Can't have that...if we allowed them
 to laugh or make fun at our stuff, they might stop
 paying for our lives and we'd have to work for a 
 living. H...I know...let's get our buddy Manu
 to write a new law saying that it's OK to give any-
 one who laughs at our stories a Wet Willie.
 
 Seer 1: Do you really think a Wet Willie is a strong
 enough punishment to stop them from laughing? I mean,
 some of your stuff *is* pretty laughable, for example,
 that story about Mahishaasura and Durga that you wrote:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5LtKh31m0o
 
 Seer 2: Hey! I was drunk at the time. So what if it
 doesn't make any sense? Haven't you learned yet that
 the *less* anything we write makes any sense, the
 harder the peons work to try to *make* it make sense
 and to *make* it seem spiritual, and the more donations 
 go up? I should write *all* my stuff drunk.
 
 Seer 1: A good point. But what about the Wet Willie?
 I still don't think it's strong enough. We can't let
 these guys get to thinking they can get away with 
 insulting us...uh...I mean with insulting the gods.
 I don't know about you, but I'm gettin' old and I
 haven't got any skills except for making up stupid
 stories to amuse the peons, and I don't want to have
 to spend the rest of my life as a shit-shoveler.
 
 Seer 2: Yeah, me either. Pass the soma, and put a 
 little more vodka in it this time, ferkrishnassake!
 So what should the punishment be for laughing at us...
 uh...the gods? A Melvin?
 
 Seer 1: Melvins aren't going to work, dummy...these
 guys are so poor they can't afford underwear. Have
 you ever tried to give a Melvin to someone who is
 going commando under a dhoti? Doesn't work at all.
 
 Seer 2: Well, how 'bout cutting their tongues out?
 
 Seer 1: That's good. It would certainly be a lesson
 to the other peons who might be tempted to laugh at
 us or to stop supporting us in the style to which
 we'd like to become accustomed.
 
 Seer 2: It's settled then...I'll FAX Manu right away
 and get him to write up something and post it at 
 the temple.
 
 Seer 1: Glad that's settled. Now, what do we write
 today, eh? The peons who *aren't* laughing at us
 are clamoring for another Durga story. They like
 it when she kicks ass.
 
 Seer 2: Maybe we could have her cut Ganesha's dick
 off...Ganesh's popularity is way down in the polls,
 and everybody's threatened by a guy with an elephant-
 sized dick. Whaddyathink?
 
 Seer 1: I'll have to think about it. Shit, this 
 writing an ongoing soap opera is hard work. 
 
 Seer 2: But it's a living...don't forget that. And
 we don't have to shovel shit like the peons.
 
 Seer 1: Yup, you're right. Besides, once we kick the
 bucket, who is going to remember us or any of these
 silly stories we write to amuse the peons and get
 them to feed us, anyway? It's not as if centuries
 from now people are still going to be so stupid
 that they'll look at a cheezy adventure story like 
 Durga Opens A Can Of Whupass and think it's 
 *spiritual*, right?
 
 Seer 2: Right. No matter how stupid the peons are,
 nobody is *that* stupid.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 
 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
 wrote:
 
 It has been brought up before that all too often people 
attempting
 to view their past lives will conclude that they were someone 
famous.
 
 Emptybill:
 
 This generalization is an old but undeserved criticism because it 
is
 nothing but pure, unfounded speculation. Actual testimony from 
subjects
 participating in both individual and group sessions of past life 
recall
 is just the opposite of this statement and its claims.  Helen 
Wambach
 did research on about 1000 individuals and around 10,000 people in
 various group settings. The vast majority of these participants 
reported
 past lives as simple peasants or farmers, living in small villages 
or in
 the countryside with no formal education and little social 
influence
 within the cultural milieu of the given lifetime.
 
Dr. Helen Wambach (Ph.D.) was one of the earliest 
scientific
 researchers into past lives and reincaration. She was the author of
 Reliving Past Lives and Life Before Life (both published in 1978 by
 Bantam paperback books). The updated Reliving Past Lives: The 
Evidence
 Under Hypnosis  was published in 1984.
 
 Initially motivated by a desire to debunk reincarnation, beginning 
in
 the mid-1960s, Helen Wambach conducted a 10-year survey of past-
life
 recalls under hypnosis among 1,088 subjects. She asked very 
specific
 questions about the time periods in which people lived and the 
clothing,
 footwear, utensils, money, housing, etc. which they used or came in
 contact with. Wambach concluded found peoples' recollections to be
 amazingly accurate and wrote that ''fantasy and genetic memory 
could not
 account for the patterns that emerged in the results. With the 
exception
 of 11 subjects, all descriptions of clothing, footwear and 
utensils were
 consistent with historical records.'' 
 http://www.victorzammit.com/book/chapter24.html
 
 By doing a scientific analysis on the past lives reported by her 
10,000
 plus volunteers she came up with some startling evidence in favor 
of
 reincarnation:
 
 • 50.6 % of the past lives reported were male and 49.4 % were 
female
 — this is exactly in accordance with biological fact.
 
 • The number of people reporting upper class or comfortable lives
 was in exactly the same proportion to the estimates of historians 
of the
 class distribution of the period.
 
 • The recall by subjects of clothing, footwear, type of food and
 utensils used was better than that in popular history books. She 
found
 over and over again that her subjects knew better than most 
historians
 — when she went to obscure experts her subjects were invariably
 correct.
 
 While the evidence from these viewing does not constitute any 
final
 proof of reincarnation, it does belie your true 'cuz it must be
 assertion.

I am OK with that. I haven't really looked into it much. I think the 
central question though is how useful is this type of thing in a 
quest for eternal freedom? Other than that, when I have read these 
accounts I find them entertaining.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Larry King Live ~ U F O BOMBSHELL ANNOUNCEMENT! CNN TO BRING FORTH USG ~

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 UFO BOMBSHELL ANNOUNCEMENT! CNN TO BRING FORTH 
 
 USG M-LITARY OFFICIALS, B-ACK WORLD SUPERSTARS 
 
 and GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FROM AROUND THE WORLD 
 
 TO OUT THE U F O/E T MATTER!


Oh sh!t, I better get outta here.

OffWorld


 
 Friday, November 9th, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT on the 
 Larry King LIVE! Show!
 MARK YOUR CALENDARS NOW!
 
  
 
 SHIRLEY MACLAINE scheduled to be on this show too!
 
 HYPERLINK http://www.cnn.%20com/CNN/Programs%20/larry.king.live/;
 \nhttp://www.cnn. com/CNN/Programs /larry.king.live/
 
  
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Rory Goff
 jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Wouldn't it only be spin if it provided Rory some sort of one-sided 
 advantage to do so? That is my understanding of spin, or bias. If 
 you analyze his writing, you'll find that there is no spin, that he 
 in fact experiences the world accurately as a microcosm and 
 macrocosm of himself. He supports both the good and bad in 
 himself; the world, without favoring either for a predictive 
 outcome.

Perhaps he meant it was spin in that I didn't directly answer the 
question of what if felt like at the time the memories came up 
to be Herman Goering -- as opposed to how it feels now, which is 
what I answered.

I believe I covered most of those emotions pretty thoroughly in the 
website. IIRC they included relentless cheerfulness, greed and 
poverty-consciousness, intense anger, feeling utterly betrayed for 
following a false (and crazy) but highly charismatic Messiah, feeling 
the exhausting brunt of contempt and scorn from head-to-head 
confrontations with (the woman who appeared to be the reincarnation 
of) Rommel, love of (the woman who appeared to be) Karin, and so 
on and so on. All extremely intense at the time, almost a dream now, 
25 years later. All of this arose in the year before dying into the 
emptiful void and were resolved in the 2-3 years following -- 
something like a purgatory, I guess. 

Practically nothing compared with the monstrously arrogant, know-it-
all, self-appointed-lord-of-the-universe, radiant Brahma-ego I have 
been eyeball-to-eyeball with and wrestling for the past two years, 
that's for sure :-)

*lol*




:-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja Broadcasts (Dhanvantari, Hanuman, Mahalakshm

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OffWorld wrote:
  
  Great, First its the guy that gives you the runs, 
  then its monkey day (so I'll be monkeying around that day),
  and the one I look forward to the most,
  BigMammaries Day on Friday ! I love it ! Jai MahaLakshmi
 
 a friendly reminder, from our guiding light: The Laws of Manu, 
 at  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/manu-full.html 
 
 A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man 
 with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; 
 for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270
 
 translation from Barbarian:
 
 Inevitably a time will come, when one is no longer capable
 of saying anything more; therefore, dont be a low-life and 
 waste words on dissing higher teachings.


Lol, if you can't take it you won't be allowed in the door of Heaven 
where the party is going on. For real. 

Go join the Taliban instead. No dancing allowed where you are going.

OffWorld

.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja Broadcasts (Dhanvantari, Hanuman, Mahalakshm

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest
 george.deforest@ wrote:
 
   OffWorld wrote:
   
   Great, First its the guy that gives you the runs, 
   then its monkey day (so I'll be monkeying around that day),
   and the one I look forward to the most,
   BigMammaries Day on Friday ! I love it ! Jai MahaLakshmi
  
  a friendly reminder, from our guiding light: The Laws of Manu, 
  at  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/manu-full.html 
  
  A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man 
  with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; 
  for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270
  
  translation from Barbarian:
  
  Inevitably a time will come, when one is no longer capable
  of saying anything more; therefore, dont be a low-life and 
  waste words on dissing higher teachings.
 
 Cuz higher and dissing are all in the eyes of the beholder?  
 
 Cuz we don't live in a barbaric culture that suppresses free speech?
 
 Cuz Main is often very funny so if this one didn't hit your funny
 bone, another probably will?
 
 Cuz if there was a God wouldn't he be at least as non-touchy as a 
well
 adjusted adult?
 
 Cuz caste suppressive threats are evil, one of the lowest teachings
 humans have invented? 


There will never come a time for me and those of the free ranging 
laughing servants of MahaLakshmi, in any lifetime ever, that we will 
not test the evil religions of man. The way this guy george wants to 
go. ends up with the Taliban, full viels for women, and no jokes or 
dancing. No way will that consciousness ever be allowed to survive in 
this universe by the higher powers. If a man cannot see the sin in 
the center of the Vedas and the universe, and laugh with joy then he 
has not understood.

OffWorld




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Nov 8, 2007, at 7:18 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:


PS Sal, I borrowed one of your posts for this and my previous comment.
You always have about 30 of 'em lying around anyway unused each week,
and so I appreciate in advance your spirit of generosity. In fact,
I'll make a deal with you; you continue to remind me when I've reached
my exact limit of posts-- I'm cool with that-- and I'll use a few of
your perennially unused posts if need be. OK? I'll just assume it is.


No, Jim, it's not, you don't have my permission, you're just  
stealing.  And since it's not the end of the week, you don't know if  
I'm going to use them or not, making it unethical as well.  Why am I  
not surprised?


I wouldn't even bother with this if you hadn't made it clear that you  
couldn't be bothered with counting, and basically asked someone else  
to do it.  So I obliged.



Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja Broadcasts (Dhanvantari, Hanuman, Mahalakshm

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OffWorld wrote:
  
  Great, First its the guy that gives you the runs, 
  then its monkey day (so I'll be monkeying around that day),
  and the one I look forward to the most,
  BigMammaries Day on Friday ! I love it ! Jai MahaLakshmi
 
 a friendly reminder, from our guiding light: The Laws of Manu, 
 at  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/manu-full.html 
 
 A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man 
 with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; 
 for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270
 
 translation from Barbarian:
 
 Inevitably a time will come, when one is no longer capable
 of saying anything more; therefore, dont be a low-life and 
 waste words on dissing higher teachings.


Soon you will understand something:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=736NKsK86Uk

OffWorld

.




[FairfieldLife] Posting Limits

2007-11-08 Thread Rick Archer
Done but might not know it: 

Jim F – 37

New Morning – 35

 

Getting Close:

Off World – 31

Shemp - 27

 





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[FairfieldLife] THIS SUNDAY - ORGANIC COTTON/BAMBOO CLOTHING PARTY!!

2007-11-08 Thread Rick Archer
As you may have noticed, I often post Fairfield-related things here. This is
something my sister is doing:

 

A REMINDER --- Our All Natural Clothing Party and Trunk Show !

Talia Katz and Carol Morehead invite you to join us for an afternoon Open
House 

at Carol’s home, 102 Full Moon Lane

 
THIS Sunday, November 11 

from 1:00 – 4:00
  
Talia is a 16 year old Sidha entrepreneur with a passion for organic and
sustainable fibers –I am helping her to get her business going by hosting
our first “Trunk Show”! Come for tea, goodies, and a chance to shop for some
fabulous natural fiber bamboo/organic cotton and hemp clothing at very
affordable prices, and get a head start on your holiday gift shopping.
The fall season is here, and what’s needed is some warm and cozy bamboo.
It insulates against the cold, feels better than silk, and has antibacterial
and anti UVA rays properties - it’s some amazing stuff! 
We’ll have:  (70%bamboo/30% organic cotton) --
Long-sleeve shirts in every color, yoga pants, sleep slips, bamboo robes and
towels sets, scarves and shawls, bamboo soaps  yarns, and some unique
surprises!
Please stop by Carol’s home at 102 Full Moon Lane, 
no RSVP necessary, but if you would like more information please call Talia
at 469-5344 or Carol at 472-4784.

Wishing you all the joy in the world this holiday season, 
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[FairfieldLife] Obama

2007-11-08 Thread Rick Archer
Barack Obama spoke for an hour in FF this morning. I found him very
inspiring. I got a chance to ask a question: what he thought of Dennis
Kucinich’s House resolution to impeach Cheney, and if he didn’t approve of
that approach, what he would do to repair the constitutional erosion that
had occurred under Bush/Cheney. He answered that he didn’t favor impeachment
because it would cause too much congressional paralysis and stir up too much
bitterness, but that if he became president, his first move would be to call
in his attorney general and have him/her review everything Bush has done in
light of its impact on the Constitution. He would then reverse every
decision which had eroded it. (Obama taught constitutional law for 10
years.)


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Larry King Live ~ U F O BOMBSHELL ANNOUNCEMENT! CNN TO BRING FORTH USG ~

2007-11-08 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Just in case people a bit less familiar with the Web can't get the link to
work,
the proper link, without spaces, is:  *
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/*http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

The show is Friday so have your well pondered questions ready and email them
promptly to the link provided on the show's website.  Send anytime between
now and the start of the show.

*As long as this universe continues to exist, I am here to love you.  The
force that guides the stars guides you too: here into my loving embrace. *



On 11/8/07, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   *UFO BOMBSHELL ANNOUNCEMENT! CNN TO BRING FORTH *

 *USG M-LITARY OFFICIALS, B-ACK WORLD SUPERSTARS *

 *and GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FROM AROUND THE WORLD *

 *TO OUT THE U F O/E T MATTER!*


 *Friday, November 9th, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT on the **
 Larry King LIVE! Show!
 MARK YOUR CALENDARS NOW!*



 *SHIRLEY MACLAINE scheduled to be on this show too!*

 *http://www.cnn. com/CNN/Programs /larry.king.live/ 
 *http://www.cnn.%20com/CNN/Programs%20/larry.king.live/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Limits

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
TOTALLY INCORRECT COUNT ! ! !

I AM LESS THAN 20 POSTS THIS WEEKUntil this post (which doesn't 
count ! ! ! )

OffWorld



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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jim_flanegin
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:19 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

 

PS Sal, I borrowed one of your posts for this and my previous comment. 
You always have about 30 of 'em lying around anyway unused each week, 
and so I appreciate in advance your spirit of generosity. In fact, 
I'll make a deal with you; you continue to remind me when I've reached 
my exact limit of posts-- I'm cool with that-- and I'll use a few of 
your perennially unused posts if need be. OK? I'll just assume it is. 
Thanks!

No Jim. Not OK. By that logic, there would be no posting limits. Many people
post only a few a week. Should those who want to ignore the posting limit
“borrow” theirs, with their tacit “permission?” 

I hereby decree: “No borrowing, lending, selling, or otherwise transferring
unused posts.” 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Reading FFL Posts

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
I have no problem with it.

Go to Home Page, scroll down, and click on the calander for Nov 2007 at 
far right (about 805+ posts showing at this point) that should take you 
to the sequential list.


For Rick: OffWorld's 22nd post this week.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I used to read the posts sequentially, (not by topic).  Suddenly I 
 can't do that.  I would read the posts by visiting the FFL Home Page, 
 (not via e-mail).  I can't seem to get back to that sequential mode.  
 Anyone know what happened, or how I can get back to my familiar mode?
 
 Thank You.
 
 Your Friend Lurk





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Limits

2007-11-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of off_world_beings
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:48 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Limits

 

TOTALLY INCORRECT COUNT ! ! !

I AM LESS THAN 20 POSTS THIS WEEKUntil this post (which doesn't 
count ! ! ! )

OffWorld

34 now (33 including the one I’m responding to, which we won’t count.) I
just sent a screen shot to your private email address of all your posts this
week.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama

2007-11-08 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Nov 8, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

Barack Obama spoke for an hour in FF this morning. I found him very  
inspiring. I got a chance to ask a question: what he thought of  
Dennis Kucinich’s House resolution to impeach Cheney, and if he  
didn’t approve of that approach, what he would do to repair the  
constitutional erosion that had occurred under Bush/Cheney. He  
answered that he didn’t favor impeachment because it would cause  
too much congressional paralysis and stir up too much bitterness,  
but that if he became president, his first move would be to call in  
his attorney general and have him/her review everything Bush has  
done in light of its impact on the Constitution. He would then  
reverse every decision which had eroded it. (Obama taught  
constitutional law for 10 years.)


That was you who asked that, Rick?  I could hear the question but  
couldn't see who  was asking.  Good question--I have to admit I  
wasn't thrilled with the answer, seems like an excuse for inertia.   
And with 14 more months left to go, and nothing left to lose, there's  
still time for more damage.


Loved the meeting, and the general feeling in the room, though.  And  
found the rest of his talk inspiring as well.


Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Reading FFL Posts

2007-11-08 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Thanks for the suggestion.  I did that but I still can only read 
posts by topic, and not sequentially.  A real bummer. I want 
my old way.  Perhaps it will straighten itself out.

lurk

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have no problem with it.
 
 Go to Home Page, scroll down, and click on the calander for Nov 
2007 at 
 far right (about 805+ posts showing at this point) that should 
take you 
 to the sequential list.
 
 
 For Rick: OffWorld's 22nd post this week.
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  I used to read the posts sequentially, (not by topic).  Suddenly 
I 
  can't do that.  I would read the posts by visiting the FFL Home 
Page, 
  (not via e-mail).  I can't seem to get back to that sequential 
mode.  
  Anyone know what happened, or how I can get back to my familiar 
mode?
  
  Thank You.
  
  Your Friend Lurk
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Limits

2007-11-08 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Done but might not know it: 
 
 
 New Morning – 35
 

Thanks Rick. The yahoo search shows me only at 28. I  am  fine going
with your count. But I am surprised that Yahoo could be off by so much.

I assume you have checked your list for duplicates.

Out of curiosity, could you send my your list -- if its not a hassle
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153785  Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
R: Characteristics and expect being the operative words. In my
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falling hopelessly in love with them. You and New seem ...  new.morning
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153750  Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
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153741  Re: Raja Coronation
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Thats being homo-phobic I believe. Which is scary -- given that your
apparent savior complex make your feel that you ... new.morning
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- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote: Vaj, you STILL don't Get IT, do you!!! Jim is not mouthing the
words of MMY. This is his OWN cognition from the ...new.morning
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153716  Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
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Maharishi once gave me the project of correlating the scientific
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5, 2007, at 4:48 PM, bob_brigante wrote: MMY sits on a deerskin to
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drain on energy in the same way that ordinary people are a drain on a
yogi. Snip For instance, in India one is advised not to 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Limits

2007-11-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of new.morning
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:18 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Posting Limits

 

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Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Done but might not know it: 
 
 
 New Morning – 35
 

Thanks Rick. The yahoo search shows me only at 28. I am fine going
with your count. But I am surprised that Yahoo could be off by so much.

I assume you have checked your list for duplicates.

Out of curiosity, could you send my your list -- if its not a hassle
(else no problem.)

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Reading FFL Posts

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
Huh, can't help you. 
Are you on a Mac?...they do wierd things (I know...I have to teach on 
them everyday )

Ooops last post according to Rick's count (still 10 more to go, if I 
look at posting on the website count - same deal as New-Morning 
sounds like)

Catch y'all later.

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the suggestion.  I did that but I still can only read 
 posts by topic, and not sequentially.  A real bummer. I want 
 my old way.  Perhaps it will straighten itself out.
 
 lurk
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I have no problem with it.
  
  Go to Home Page, scroll down, and click on the calander for Nov 
 2007 at 
  far right (about 805+ posts showing at this point) that should 
 take you 
  to the sequential list.
  
  
  For Rick: OffWorld's 22nd post this week.
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
  steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   I used to read the posts sequentially, (not by topic).  
Suddenly 
 I 
   can't do that.  I would read the posts by visiting the FFL Home 
 Page, 
   (not via e-mail).  I can't seem to get back to that sequential 
 mode.  
   Anyone know what happened, or how I can get back to my familiar 
 mode?
   
   Thank You.
   
   Your Friend Lurk
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Reading FFL Posts

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
Huh, can't help you, works fine for me.
Are you on a Mac?...they do wierd things (I know...I have to teach on
them everyday )

Ooops last post according to Rick's count (still 10 more to go, if I
look at posting on the website count - same deal as New-Morning
sounds like)

Catch y'all later.

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the suggestion.  I did that but I still can only read 
 posts by topic, and not sequentially.  A real bummer. I want 
 my old way.  Perhaps it will straighten itself out.
 
 lurk
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I have no problem with it.
  
  Go to Home Page, scroll down, and click on the calander for Nov 
 2007 at 
  far right (about 805+ posts showing at this point) that should 
 take you 
  to the sequential list.
  
  
  For Rick: OffWorld's 22nd post this week.
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
  steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   I used to read the posts sequentially, (not by topic).  
Suddenly 
 I 
   can't do that.  I would read the posts by visiting the FFL Home 
 Page, 
   (not via e-mail).  I can't seem to get back to that sequential 
 mode.  
   Anyone know what happened, or how I can get back to my familiar 
 mode?
   
   Thank You.
   
   Your Friend Lurk
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama

2007-11-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
I can't believe that you forgot to ask him my questions about whether
he has ever had a hot tub party with an ebony and ivory theme with the
Kucinish's, and if so, did he get a chance to see Dennis's wife naked
like if she was changing into her bathing suit and accidentally left
the door open just enough that he could walk by and lock eyes with her
like a feral cat.

But the repairing the constitution thing was good too I guess. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Barack Obama spoke for an hour in FF this morning. I found him very
 inspiring. I got a chance to ask a question: what he thought of Dennis
 Kucinich's House resolution to impeach Cheney, and if he didn't
approve of
 that approach, what he would do to repair the constitutional erosion
that
 had occurred under Bush/Cheney. He answered that he didn't favor
impeachment
 because it would cause too much congressional paralysis and stir up
too much
 bitterness, but that if he became president, his first move would be
to call
 in his attorney general and have him/her review everything Bush has
done in
 light of its impact on the Constitution. He would then reverse every
 decision which had eroded it. (Obama taught constitutional law for 10
 years.)
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Barack Obama spoke for an hour in FF this morning. I found him very
 inspiring. I got a chance to ask a question: what he thought of 
Dennis
 Kucinich's House resolution to impeach Cheney, and if he didn't 
approve of
 that approach, what he would do to repair the constitutional 
erosion that
 had occurred under Bush/Cheney. He answered that he didn't favor 
impeachment
 because it would cause too much congressional paralysis and stir up 
too much
 bitterness, but that if he became president, his first move would 
be to call
 in his attorney general and have him/her review everything Bush has 
done in
 light of its impact on the Constitution. He would then reverse every
 decision which had eroded it. (Obama taught constitutional law for 
10
 years.)
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today

2007-11-08 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

   Do you think a true Rishi would bother about people jumping 
ships.??

   All he has to do is to teach people TM and TM itself would do 
the rest.

   Why should a true Rishi try to flatter Goofs.??  Why should 
he associate himself with Goofs.??  A man is known by the company he 
keeps.??


**

Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY 
is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out 
to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill 
those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by 
Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only 
slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures 
living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of 
expanded awareness.

By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of 
enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this 
policy long ago:

http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com#light

 
 bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:20:16 -
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
 

   MMY did not begin his work halfway thru the Sat Yuga, when folks 
are 
 smart and friendly, but in the Kali Yuga, when people are weak and 
 stupid in every way. If MMY has to flatter goofs to keep them from 
 jumping ship, then that's the way it's got to be. But, really, all 
 people are made in the image of God, so if you want to salute the 
 godliness in them, that's ultimately true anyway. Also, MMY is 
making 
 it clear that administration from the level of the consitution of 
the 
 universe is not really administration at all:
 
 'When there was lot of administration, there was a lot of 
controversy 
 to be reconciled here and there and there so far. So for the 
assembly 
 of mankind there was administration needed, but now today that 
 administration will be just a name, and a name may show some shadow 
 of it. But in reality the world is going to be administered on its 
 own which is the ultimate level of, for want of a word we say, 
Being, 
 Being, Being, Being.'
 
 http://www.globalgo odnews.com/ world-peace- a.html?art= 
1193940660953239 



 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Reading FFL Posts

2007-11-08 Thread lurkernomore20002000
No, not on a Mac.  I've had strange stuff like this before, and then 
it straightens itself out.  So you're a teacher.  When you have 
more posts to burn, I'd like to know more about what you teach, etc

lurk




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Huh, can't help you, works fine for me.
 Are you on a Mac?...they do wierd things (I know...I have to teach 
on
 them everyday )
 
 Ooops last post according to Rick's count (still 10 more to go, if 
I
 look at posting on the website count - same deal as New-Morning
 sounds like)
 
 Catch y'all later.
 
 OffWorld
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  Thanks for the suggestion.  I did that but I still can only read 
  posts by topic, and not sequentially.  A real bummer. I want 
  my old way.  Perhaps it will straighten itself out.
  
  lurk
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
  no_reply@ wrote:
  
   I have no problem with it.
   
   Go to Home Page, scroll down, and click on the calander for 
Nov 
  2007 at 
   far right (about 805+ posts showing at this point) that should 
  take you 
   to the sequential list.
   
   
   For Rick: OffWorld's 22nd post this week.
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
   steve.sundur@ wrote:
   
I used to read the posts sequentially, (not by topic).  
 Suddenly 
  I 
can't do that.  I would read the posts by visiting the FFL 
Home 
  Page, 
(not via e-mail).  I can't seem to get back to that 
sequential 
  mode.  
Anyone know what happened, or how I can get back to my 
familiar 
  mode?

Thank You.

Your Friend Lurk
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul

2007-11-08 Thread thedoc108
Fox News and the Republican Party of Iowa are refusing to allow Ron 
Paul to join the Iowa debate in early december. They claim he does 
not have a 5% name recognition on telephone polls. Good excuse to 
keep him out. None of the other candidates have raised over $4 
million in one day as he did on nov. 5, 2007. 

Republican Party of Iowa: To host presidential debate in Des Moines
Contact: Mary Tiffany
(515) 282-8105

Debate to be nationally televised by FOX NEWS CHANNEL

The Republican Party of Iowa announced today that it will hold its
presidential debate at Hy-Vee Hall in downtown Des Moines. The event, 
to be
held the evening of December 4, 2007, will be the first debate in 
Iowa to be
televised by FOX News Channel this election season, as well as the 
first
debate sponsored by the Republican Party of Iowa.

Republican Party of Iowa Chairman Ray Hoffmann said, With the 
caucuses less
than a month away, our December 4 debate will be very telling to 
Iowans and
the nation. We are thrilled to be having this event in central Iowa, 
and
right in downtown Des Moines which will be the epicenter on caucus 
night.

What I am doing is sending Mr. Hoffman an email, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and letting him know that if Ron Paul is 
not onthe debate that I will vote for the WICKED BITCH.

Ray Hoffmann, Chairman
Sioux City
Dear Mr. Hoffman,
I wanted to let you and all of the IOWA folks know that my wife and I 
are in
our early 80s and have always voted Republican.  I am letting you 
know that
if you try this criteria garbage whose sole purpose is to eliminate 
Ron Paul
from the debate in December, my wife and I and over 10+ family 
members have
decided that we will not only vote for the WICKED BITCH OF THE EAST 
come
2008, but send her $500 on top of that.

But if you insist on a criteria then it should be on those candidates 
that
have not raised over $4 million dollars in a single day, of which my 
family
did their part. I am a WWII and Korean veteran. Capiche! Robert and 
Gloria
Beckett and family.

The debate will be limited to those candidates who have satisfied the
following criteria:

1. Announced a formal campaign for President: and

2. Filed the necessary paperwork with the Federal Election 
Commission; and

3. Met all U.S. constitutional requirements; and

4. Garnered at least 5% of the national electorate as determined by an
average of the most recent national telephone polls of registered 
voters
conducted by non-partisan public opinion polling organizations 
leading up to
the registration deadline as determined by Fox News Channel and the
Republican Party of Iowa or garnered an average of at least 5% in the 
most
recent polls of Iowa voters conducted by the American Research Group 
and the
Des Moines Register.

AND THIS JUST HAPPENS TO COME OUT THE EXACT DAY THAT RON PAUL HAS MADE
HISTORY BY RAISING MORE MONEY IN ONE DAY THAN ANY OTHER 
CANDIDATE!!! !!

THEY KNOW THAT RON PAUL DOESN'T REGISTER IN THESE BOGUS NATIONAL 
PHONE
POLLS AND THUS GIVES THEM A PLAUSIBLE REASON TO EXCLUDE HIM FROM THE 
DEBATE
EVEN IN THE FACE OF SUCH OUTSTANDING SUPPORT THAT WAS EVIDENT TODAY!!!

WE ALL MUST DO SOMETHING!!! !!

These are all the contacts in IOWA with the GOP:


State Central  Committee

Ray  Hoffmann Chairman Sioux City
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Leon Mosley Co Chairman Waterloo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Chuck  Laudner Executive Director Des Moines
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Paula Dierenfeld Legal Counsel
Des Moines [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Kathy  Pearson Pres. IFRW Cedar Rapids
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Phyllis Kelly, National Committeewoman, Charles City
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Steve Roberts National Committeeman Des Moines
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  First District
Second  District Third  District

  Karl Gilbertson Cedar Falls
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Lisa Smith Secretary Ottumwa
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[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today

2007-11-08 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY 
is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out 
to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill 
those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by 
Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is slowly 
unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living 
in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded 
awareness.

The cognitions of Brigante.  Not to be confused with the cognitions 
of Brighu

lurk






[FairfieldLife] Posting and Deleting Posts messes up the tally

2007-11-08 Thread Rick Archer
If you post, then delete your post, edit it, and repost it, I end up getting
both posts and assuming they are separate, so it screws up the count.
Therefore, please review your posts before submitting them so you won’t be
tempted to do this.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja Broadcasts (Dhanvantari, Hanuman, Mahalakshm

2007-11-08 Thread george_deforest
my apologies to Off World and Curtis;

i was trying to be funny, 
bringing in the Laws of Manu;
but my little joke backfired.

One who makes mockery of fellow seekers of truth
with poor jokery, shall have their defective funny bone 
removed; let it be fed to the swine, for they are low


   george.deforest wrote:
   a friendly reminder, from our guiding light: The Laws of Manu, 
   at  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/manu-full.html 
   
   A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man 
   with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; 
   for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270
   
   translation from Barbarian:
   Inevitably a time will come, when one is no longer capable
   of saying anything more; therefore, dont be a low-life and 
   waste words on dissing higher teachings.
  
  
  curtisdeltablues wrote:
  
  Cuz higher and dissing are all in the eyes of the beholder?  
  
  Cuz we don't live in a barbaric culture that suppresses
  free speech?
  
  Cuz Main is often very funny so if this one didn't hit your
  funny bone, another probably will?
  
  Cuz if there was a God wouldn't he be at least as non-touchy 
  as a  well adjusted adult?
  
  Cuz caste suppressive threats are evil, one of the
  lowest teachings humans have invented? 
 
 OffWorld wrote:
 There will never come a time for me and those of the free ranging 
 laughing servants of MahaLakshmi, in any lifetime ever, that we will 
 not test the evil religions of man. The way this guy george wants to 
 go. ends up with the Taliban, full viels for women, and no jokes or 
 dancing. No way will that consciousness ever be allowed to survive
 in this universe by the higher powers. If a man cannot see
 the sin in the center of the Vedas and the universe, and laugh
 with joy then he has not understood.



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2007-11-08 Thread Rick Archer
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
(there is a debate and congressional hearings going on about wether I 
have one or two more posts or notso...screw it...here goes)

 Fox News and the Republican Party of Iowa are refusing to allow 
Ron Paul to join the Iowa debate in early december.

In that case, we will organize a million person march on Iowa on that 
date. 

People doubted Ron Paul could raise a million dollars, never mind the 
7.5 million he has raised in 6 weeks (4 million online on Nov.5), so 
if he aims to have a large crowd in Iowa that day, perhaps he could 
get something phenomenal.

Wild horses could not drag me away back to Iowa at this point, but if 
they lock him out...I, and thousands of others, will be there on that 
day.


OffWorld



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, thedoc108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Fox News and the Republican Party of Iowa are refusing to allow Ron 
 Paul to join the Iowa debate in early december. They claim he 
does 
 not have a 5% name recognition on telephone polls. Good excuse to 
 keep him out. None of the other candidates have raised over $4 
 million in one day as he did on nov. 5, 2007. 
 
 Republican Party of Iowa: To host presidential debate in Des Moines
 Contact: Mary Tiffany
 (515) 282-8105
 
 Debate to be nationally televised by FOX NEWS CHANNEL
 
 The Republican Party of Iowa announced today that it will hold its
 presidential debate at Hy-Vee Hall in downtown Des Moines. The 
event, 
 to be
 held the evening of December 4, 2007, will be the first debate in 
 Iowa to be
 televised by FOX News Channel this election season, as well as the 
 first
 debate sponsored by the Republican Party of Iowa.
 
 Republican Party of Iowa Chairman Ray Hoffmann said, With the 
 caucuses less
 than a month away, our December 4 debate will be very telling to 
 Iowans and
 the nation. We are thrilled to be having this event in central 
Iowa, 
 and
 right in downtown Des Moines which will be the epicenter on caucus 
 night.
 
 What I am doing is sending Mr. Hoffman an email, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and letting him know that if Ron Paul is 
 not onthe debate that I will vote for the WICKED BITCH.
 
 Ray Hoffmann, Chairman
 Sioux City
 Dear Mr. Hoffman,
 I wanted to let you and all of the IOWA folks know that my wife and 
I 
 are in
 our early 80s and have always voted Republican.  I am letting you 
 know that
 if you try this criteria garbage whose sole purpose is to eliminate 
 Ron Paul
 from the debate in December, my wife and I and over 10+ family 
 members have
 decided that we will not only vote for the WICKED BITCH OF THE 
EAST 
 come
 2008, but send her $500 on top of that.
 
 But if you insist on a criteria then it should be on those 
candidates 
 that
 have not raised over $4 million dollars in a single day, of which 
my 
 family
 did their part. I am a WWII and Korean veteran. Capiche! Robert and 
 Gloria
 Beckett and family.
 
 The debate will be limited to those candidates who have satisfied 
the
 following criteria:
 
 1. Announced a formal campaign for President: and
 
 2. Filed the necessary paperwork with the Federal Election 
 Commission; and
 
 3. Met all U.S. constitutional requirements; and
 
 4. Garnered at least 5% of the national electorate as determined by 
an
 average of the most recent national telephone polls of registered 
 voters
 conducted by non-partisan public opinion polling organizations 
 leading up to
 the registration deadline as determined by Fox News Channel and the
 Republican Party of Iowa or garnered an average of at least 5% in 
the 
 most
 recent polls of Iowa voters conducted by the American Research 
Group 
 and the
 Des Moines Register.
 
 AND THIS JUST HAPPENS TO COME OUT THE EXACT DAY THAT RON PAUL HAS 
MADE
 HISTORY BY RAISING MORE MONEY IN ONE DAY THAN ANY OTHER 
 CANDIDATE!!! !!
 
 THEY KNOW THAT RON PAUL DOESN'T REGISTER IN THESE BOGUS NATIONAL 
 PHONE
 POLLS AND THUS GIVES THEM A PLAUSIBLE REASON TO EXCLUDE HIM FROM 
THE 
 DEBATE
 EVEN IN THE FACE OF SUCH OUTSTANDING SUPPORT THAT WAS EVIDENT 
TODAY!!!
 
 WE ALL MUST DO SOMETHING!!! !!
 
 These are all the contacts in IOWA with the GOP:
 
 
 State Central  Committee
 
 Ray  Hoffmann Chairman Sioux City
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Leon Mosley Co Chairman Waterloo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Chuck  Laudner Executive Director Des Moines
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Paula Dierenfeld Legal Counsel
 Des Moines [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Kathy  Pearson Pres. IFRW Cedar Rapids
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Phyllis Kelly, National Committeewoman, Charles City
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Steve Roberts National Committeeman Des Moines
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   First District
 Second  District Third  District
 
   Karl Gilbertson Cedar Falls
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Lisa Smith Secretary Ottumwa
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Steve Scheffler
 West Des  Moines
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





[FairfieldLife] Re: Posting and Deleting Posts messes up the tally

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
No problembut just for accuracya shovel is not a spade, and an 
e-mail is not a post.

:-)
:-)
:-)

OffWorld



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you post, then delete your post, edit it, and repost it, I end up 
getting
 both posts and assuming they are separate, so it screws up the count.
 Therefore, please review your posts before submitting them so you 
won't be
 tempted to do this.
 
 
 No virus found in this outgoing message.
 Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
 Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 
11/8/2007
 5:55 PM





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reading FFL Posts

2007-11-08 Thread Bhairitu
There are a variety of ways to display messages on the web site.  Set 
Most Recent Messages to View All.   It will display the messages most 
likely by Topic as that seems to be your problem.  Click on List 
Individual Messages by Topics and you'll have the messages in 
sequence.  You might want to read the Messages Help over on the right 
near the top so you can read about all the various ways you can display 
messages.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja Broadcasts (Dhanvantari, Hanuman, Mahalakshm

2007-11-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey George,

I thought your translation from Barbarian: was the clue that you
were doing it tongue in cheek.  But being the trigger happy clod that
I am I was off and running goofing on the quote and too wrapped up in
my own nonsense to really care which part was your joke and which part
was serious.  I was going to email you on the side to make sure I
hadn't offended you so I'm glad you brought it up.  No apologies to me
brother, you were being funny and set me up nicely for my silliness. 
I always enjoy your contributions to the reindeer games. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 my apologies to Off World and Curtis;
 
 i was trying to be funny, 
 bringing in the Laws of Manu;
 but my little joke backfired.
 
 One who makes mockery of fellow seekers of truth
 with poor jokery, shall have their defective funny bone 
 removed; let it be fed to the swine, for they are low
 
 
george.deforest wrote:
a friendly reminder, from our guiding light: The Laws of Manu, 
at  http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/manu-full.html 

A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man 
with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; 
for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270

translation from Barbarian:
Inevitably a time will come, when one is no longer capable
of saying anything more; therefore, dont be a low-life and 
waste words on dissing higher teachings.
   
   
   curtisdeltablues wrote:
   
   Cuz higher and dissing are all in the eyes of the beholder?  
   
   Cuz we don't live in a barbaric culture that suppresses
   free speech?
   
   Cuz Main is often very funny so if this one didn't hit your
   funny bone, another probably will?
   
   Cuz if there was a God wouldn't he be at least as non-touchy 
   as a  well adjusted adult?
   
   Cuz caste suppressive threats are evil, one of the
   lowest teachings humans have invented? 
  
  OffWorld wrote:
  There will never come a time for me and those of the free ranging 
  laughing servants of MahaLakshmi, in any lifetime ever, that we will 
  not test the evil religions of man. The way this guy george wants to 
  go. ends up with the Taliban, full viels for women, and no jokes or 
  dancing. No way will that consciousness ever be allowed to survive
  in this universe by the higher powers. If a man cannot see
  the sin in the center of the Vedas and the universe, and laugh
  with joy then he has not understood.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three Days of Special Live Puja Broadcasts (Dhanvantari, Hanuman, Mahalakshm

2007-11-08 Thread off_world_beings
(Rick, i have to be allowed this one for an apology. Apologies should 
be allowed at all times because they are VERY rare on FFL.)


Sorry George, I didn't get it.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man 
 with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; 
 for he is of low origin. -- Laws Of Manu, Ch 8 vs. 270


What does it say happens when a 100 times born-man insults a once-
born man with gross invective?
;-)

OffWorld



 
 translation from Barbarian:
 
 Inevitably a time will come, when one is no longer capable
 of saying anything more; therefore, dont be a low-life and 
 waste words on dissing higher teachings.



[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today

2007-11-08 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
 
   
 
Do you think a true Rishi would bother about people jumping 
 ships.??
 
All he has to do is to teach people TM and TM itself would do 
 the rest.
 
Why should a true Rishi try to flatter Goofs.??  Why should 
 he associate himself with Goofs.??  A man is known by the company he 
 keeps.??
 
 
 **
  bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY 
 is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out 
 to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill 
 those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by 
 Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only 
 slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures 
 living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of 
 expanded awareness.
 
 By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of 
 enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this 
 policy long ago:
 
 http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com#light
 
  
Bob,
   Would you doubt for a minute that MMY would forgo widespread acceptance 
? He 
oozes ambition for a prominent place on the world stage, even at this last 
stage of life,
yet his TMO is virtually obscure.  

When the full blossoming of acceptance of which you refer to occurs, no 
attribution to the 
TMO accompany it.  The TMO blew a great opportunity for contributing to a 
higher 
planetary vibration, and despite its self-assurances that the planet's 
inhabitants benefit 
most greatly from the TMO's strategy to indulge wealthy elites' infinite 
relative needs, no 
one besides the elites are fooled.  

  
 
MMY did not begin his work halfway thru the Sat Yuga, when folks 
 are 
  smart and friendly, but in the Kali Yuga, when people are weak and 
  stupid in every way. If MMY has to flatter goofs to keep them from 
  jumping ship, then that's the way it's got to be. But, really, all 
  people are made in the image of God, so if you want to salute the 
  godliness in them, that's ultimately true anyway. Also, MMY is 
 making 
  it clear that administration from the level of the consitution of 
 the 
  universe is not really administration at all:
  
  'When there was lot of administration, there was a lot of 
 controversy 
  to be reconciled here and there and there so far. So for the 
 assembly 
  of mankind there was administration needed, but now today that 
  administration will be just a name, and a name may show some shadow 
  of it. But in reality the world is going to be administered on its 
  own which is the ultimate level of, for want of a word we say, 
 Being, 
  Being, Being, Being.'
  
  http://www.globalgo odnews.com/ world-peace- a.html?art= 
 1193940660953239 
 
 
 
  
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  Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Rory:
I am not prepared to say that I *was* Herman Goering, or anyone 
else for that matter, although I am prepared to say Herman Goering 
is a part of me, as is everything and everyone else. This feels 
indescribable because it's a priori, but utterly loving-
radiant-ecstatic if I choose to externalize and put my attention 
 on it; thanks for asking :-)

Lurk:
Spinmeister

Jim F.
Wouldn't it only be spin if it provided Rory some sort of one-sided 
advantage to do so? That is my understanding of spin, or bias. If 
you analyze his writing, you'll find that there is no spin, that he 
in fact experiences the world accurately as a microcosm and 
macrocosm of himself. He supports both the good and bad in 
himself; the world, without favoring either for a predictive 
outcome.

Lurk:
Dizzy, I'm so dizzy. Like a whirlpool it never ends.  And it's you 
Jim making it spin.  You're making me dizzy. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Reading FFL Posts

2007-11-08 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Thanks for the suggestion.  Somehow I got it worked out.  It is 
different than before, but it works.  Thanks :)
lurk

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There are a variety of ways to display messages on the web site.  
Set 
 Most Recent Messages to View All.   It will display the messages 
most 
 likely by Topic as that seems to be your problem.  Click on List 
 Individual Messages by Topics and you'll have the messages in 
 sequence.  You might want to read the Messages Help over on the 
right 
 near the top so you can read about all the various ways you can 
display 
 messages.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread Duveyoung
If you want to be godlike, you have to master the demonic virtues.

Destructiveness is a virtue of Shiva, right?  Well, if one is at ritam
level and wants to maintain balance, the demonic energies are just the
ticket to keep one from identifying with any of the gods and becoming
lost in the heavenly egoic traps.

All is inside yer brains, Bub -- gotta embrace the ugly to make the
beauty pop -- just get out of picking sides and witness.

The Hitler dynamic -- whatever that would be -- resides in all of
us.  Who hasn't wanted to wipe out every last ant in a long line from
your floorboard to your sugar bowl?  Gas 'em, whatever it takes, right?  

It takes a micro-bit of hitlerean Shiva power to pull that off. 
Without the evil within, there can be no recognition of the true, the
loving, the sacred.

An enlightened mind skates along that dividing line between the two
world of inner forces.  Arjuna, right?

To see these forces afoot with an absolutely quiet mind, what's not to
love?

Edg


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rory:
 I am not prepared to say that I *was* Herman Goering, or anyone 
 else for that matter, although I am prepared to say Herman Goering 
 is a part of me, as is everything and everyone else. This feels 
 indescribable because it's a priori, but utterly loving-
 radiant-ecstatic if I choose to externalize and put my attention 
  on it; thanks for asking :-)
 
 Lurk:
 Spinmeister
 
 Jim F.
 Wouldn't it only be spin if it provided Rory some sort of one-sided 
 advantage to do so? That is my understanding of spin, or bias. If 
 you analyze his writing, you'll find that there is no spin, that he 
 in fact experiences the world accurately as a microcosm and 
 macrocosm of himself. He supports both the good and bad in 
 himself; the world, without favoring either for a predictive 
 outcome.
 
 Lurk:
 Dizzy, I'm so dizzy. Like a whirlpool it never ends.  And it's you 
 Jim making it spin.  You're making me dizzy. :-)
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Edg:
If you want to be godlike, you have to master the demonic virtues.

Lurk:
Tell me something I don't know.
 
How bout Rory saying, Yea, I was Herman G. and I needed that 
lifetime to round out some life experience I was lacking so I could 
attain Brahman C. in this lifetime.  No biggy.  Noble sacrifice on 
my part, but please hold off on the applause  OR,  maybe he might 
say, You know, that was a rather childish assertion on my part, but 
I guess that was where my head was, at that point.  Looking at it 
now, I guess it was a little silly  Instead, what do we get.  See 
below.
 
I am you, you are me.  We're one happy fa-mi-ly.  With a great big 
hug and kiss from me to you, won't you say you love me too. (Barney 
Song) 


 
  Rory:
  I am not prepared to say that I *was* Herman Goering, or anyone 
  else for that matter, although I am prepared to say Herman 
Goering 
  is a part of me, as is everything and everyone else. This feels 
  indescribable because it's a priori, but utterly loving-
  radiant-ecstatic if I choose to externalize and put my attention 
   on it; thanks for asking :-)
  
  Lurk:
  Spinmeister
  
  Jim F.
  Wouldn't it only be spin if it provided Rory some sort of one-
sided 
  advantage to do so? That is my understanding of spin, or bias. 
If 
  you analyze his writing, you'll find that there is no spin, that 
he 
  in fact experiences the world accurately as a microcosm and 
  macrocosm of himself. He supports both the good and bad in 
  himself; the world, without favoring either for a predictive 
  outcome.
  
  Lurk:
  Dizzy, I'm so dizzy. Like a whirlpool it never ends.  And it's 
you 
  Jim making it spin.  You're making me dizzy. :-)
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Rory Martin Bormann?

2007-11-08 Thread matrixmonitor
--The 3-rd Reich equivalent to being a Raja: being anointed a 
Knight of the Iron Cross, of which there were 5 grades.  Herman G. is 
probably on the list.  In this incarnation he can become a Raja by 
wiring in the one Mil; thus (perhaps) being the only person ever to 
be a Knight of the Iron Cross AND a Raja!

at http://www.tinyurl.com/2k54qx

To qualify for the Knight's Cross, a soldier had to have held the 
1939 Iron Cross First Class already, though the Iron Cross I Class 
was awarded concurrently with the Knight's Cross in rare cases. Unit 
commanders could also be awarded the medal for exemplary conduct by 
the unit as a whole. Also, U-boat commanders could qualify for 
sinking 100,000 tons of shipping, and Luftwaffe pilots could qualify 
for accumulating 20 points [with one point being awarded for 
shooting down a single-engine plane, two points for a twin-engine 
plane,and three for a four-engine plane, with all points being 
doubled at night]. It was issued from 1939-45, with the requirements 
being gradually raised as the war went on.






- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Edg:
 If you want to be godlike, you have to master the demonic virtues.
 
 Lurk:
 Tell me something I don't know.
  
 How bout Rory saying, Yea, I was Herman G. and I needed that 
 lifetime to round out some life experience I was lacking so I could 
 attain Brahman C. in this lifetime.  No biggy.  Noble sacrifice on 
 my part, but please hold off on the applause  OR,  maybe he might 
 say, You know, that was a rather childish assertion on my part, 
but 
 I guess that was where my head was, at that point.  Looking at it 
 now, I guess it was a little silly  Instead, what do we get.  See 
 below.
  
 I am you, you are me.  We're one happy fa-mi-ly.  With a great big 
 hug and kiss from me to you, won't you say you love me too. 
(Barney 
 Song) 
 
 
  
   Rory:
   I am not prepared to say that I *was* Herman Goering, or anyone 
   else for that matter, although I am prepared to say Herman 
 Goering 
   is a part of me, as is everything and everyone else. This feels 
   indescribable because it's a priori, but utterly loving-
   radiant-ecstatic if I choose to externalize and put my 
attention 
on it; thanks for asking :-)
   
   Lurk:
   Spinmeister
   
   Jim F.
   Wouldn't it only be spin if it provided Rory some sort of one-
 sided 
   advantage to do so? That is my understanding of spin, or bias. 
 If 
   you analyze his writing, you'll find that there is no spin, 
that 
 he 
   in fact experiences the world accurately as a microcosm and 
   macrocosm of himself. He supports both the good and bad in 
   himself; the world, without favoring either for a predictive 
   outcome.
   
   Lurk:
   Dizzy, I'm so dizzy. Like a whirlpool it never ends.  And it's 
 you 
   Jim making it spin.  You're making me dizzy. :-)
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Are we missing a dimension of time?

2007-11-08 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
*Are we missing a dimension of time?*
*
*Roger Highfield Telegraph Media Group Limited
October 10, 2007

*Could hypertime help develop a theory of everything? *
*Roger Highfield reports*

A scientist has put forward the bizarre suggestion that
there are two dimensions of time, not the one that we are
all familiar with, and even proposed a way to test his
heretical idea next year.

Time is no longer a simple line from the past to the
future, in a four dimensional world consisting of three
dimensions of space and one of time. Instead, the physicist
envisages the passage of history as curves embedded in a
six dimensions, with four of space and two of time.

There isn't just one dimension of time, Itzhak Bars of
the University of Southern California in Los Angeles tells
New Scientist. There are two. One whole dimension of time
and another of space have until now gone entirely unnoticed
by us.

   [image: Two-Time Physics diagram]  Itzhak Bars' two time physics diagram



Bars claims his theory of two time physics, which he has
developed over more than a decade, can help solve problems
with current theories of the cosmos and, crucially, has
true predictive power that can be tested in a forthcoming
particle physics experiment.

If it is confirmed, it could point the way to a theory of
everything that unites all the physical laws of the
universe into one, notably general relativity that governs
gravity and the large scale structure of the universe, and
quantum theory that rules the subatomic world.

In the quest for that all embracing theory, scientists have
been adding extra dimensions of space to their equations
for decades. As early as the 1920s, mathematicians found
that moving up to four dimensions of space, instead of the
three we experience, helped in their quest to reconcile
theories of electromagnetism and gravity.

Today, theoreticians are studying a theory of everything
called M-theory that adds yet another dimension, taking the
total to 11: 10 of space and one of time.

Until now, they have been reluctant to meddle with time
because it can lead to unexpected consequences, such as
time travel.

Changing our picture of time from a line to a plane (one to
two dimensions) means that the path between the past and
future could loop back on itself, allowing you to travel
back and forwards in time and allowing the famous
grandfather paradox, where you could go back and kill your
grandfather before your mother was born, thereby preventing
your own birth.

Bars first found hints of an extra time dimension in
M-theory in 1995 and, when he looked into it, discovered
the grandfather paradox and other fears could be overcome
by using a new kind of symmetry - a mathematical property
to work out the relationship between the quantities of
position and momentum. It is this symmetry that might help
reconcile the two mighty pillars of 20th-century physics,
quantum mechanics and relativity.

Simply adding an extra dimension of time doesn't solve
everything, however. To produce equations that work with
the new symmetry that describe the world accurately, an
additional dimension of space is needed as well, giving a
total of four space dimensions, he explained in the journal
Physical Review D.

According to Bars, the familiar four dimensional world we
see around us is merely a shadow of the six-dimensional
reality, just as a hand makes many different shadows on a
wall when lit from different angles.

Although we cannot experience the extra time dimension
directly, we can effectively notice it through the
different perspectives of the different shadows.

In this sense, he points to already existing evidence of
physical phenomena at both macroscopic and microscopic
scales. Furthermore, he believes that more evidence for his
theory could emerge next year, when particles are smashed
together in CERN's Large Hadron Collider near Geneva,
Switzerland to create hitherto unseen supersymmetric
particles.

The work poses a question: is his proposal a mathematical
fix, rather than a real physical entity?

Bars insists his extra dimensions are more than
mathematical sleight of hand. Absolutely not, he told New
Scientist. These extra dimensions are out there, as real
as the three dimensions of space and one of time we
experience directly.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/10/10/scitime110.xml


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