[FairfieldLife] Fate and the Higgs boson

2009-10-12 Thread authfriend
>From the NY Times:

October 13, 2009

The Collider, the Particle and a Theory About Fate 
By DENNIS OVERBYE

More than a year after an explosion of sparks, soot and 
frigid helium shut it down, the world's biggest and most 
expensive physics experiment, known as the Large Hadron 
Collider, is poised to start up again. In December, if 
all goes well, protons will start smashing together in an 
underground racetrack outside Geneva in a search for 
forces and particles that reigned during the first 
trillionth of a second of the Big Bang. 

Then it will be time to test one of the most bizarre and 
revolutionary theories in science. I'm not talking about 
extra dimensions of space-time, dark matter or even black 
holes that eat the Earth. No, I'm talking about the 
notion that the troubled collider is being sabotaged by 
its own future.

A pair of otherwise distinguished physicists have
suggested that the hypothesized Higgs boson, which
physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be 
so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple
backward through time and stop the collider before it
could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in
time to kill his grandfather

You might think that the appearance of this theory is 
further proof that people have had ample time — perhaps 
too much time — to think about what will come out of the 
collider, which has been 15 years and $9 billion in the 
making

For the record, as of the middle of September, CERN 
engineers hope to begin to collide protons at the so-
called injection energy of 450 billion electron volts in 
December and then ramp up the energy until the protons 
have 3.5 trillion electron volts of energy apiece and 
then, after a short Christmas break, real physics can 
begin.

Maybe


Read more:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html?hpw

http://tinyurl.com/yzadjbx




[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Our call to be meditators is something more than a casual circumstance.  I feel 
its force and realize its holiness.  As a meditator in the sphere of nature, I 
realize how enslaved we should have been to the fashions and life that gratify 
the merely animal passions.  As a conservative meditator in the spiritual 
family of Fairfield meditators, I am relieved from earthly servitude, and am a 
free being; free to live and be as pure as the heavens, with companions who are 
also pure.  

I am happy in my call to an entire consecration of soul and body in meditation, 
to a cause so noble; and though many rebel against the call of meditation, I 
know that the discipline of a meditating life is of God and that its principles 
in science can never fail, I have tasted the bread and waters of a regenerated 
and eternal life in meditation, and to every sincere seeker after truth, I send 
greeting, and welcome to share in meditation, in Fairfield.

Jai Adi Shankara,
-Doug in FF

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Recently, about 300 students signed a petition vowing that they were all
> going to drop out if the university didn't stop forcing them to meditate by
> taking attendance at mandatory group meditations. MUM caved, and that policy
> was dropped. A study was then conducted that determined that the student
> body consists of 
>  
> . 30% entrepreneurs - career-oriented kids who mainly want to learn
> skills and enter the workforce. TM and SCI aren't high priorities. 
> . 60% "dreamers" who want to change the world. They appreciate TM
> but don't see it as the lynchpin of that endeavor. They're into
> environmentalism and other causes.
> . 10% devotees
>  
> The faculty are about 90% devotees, so their attempts to impose their values
> on the students weren't working. The university is trying to translate this
> assessment into practical steps to become more relevant and appealing to
> students.
>  
> I wonder whether all this is related to Bevan Morris' recent withdrawal from
> the board of trustees?
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:

> The question is: when someone isn't aware that the
> relative benefit is essentially a "boon" from a inner
> goddess radiating her effects via your nervous system
> onto your connection with the outer world; when that
> inner level of intention is missing through deception,
> does it work or does it work as well (as if you knew
> you were reciting, say, a mantra to the goddess of
> wisdom and inspired speech)? Or can the deception block
> that relative effect?



I think I hurt myself laughing.




[FairfieldLife] Dogs looking for loving home [1 Attachment]

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Archer

-- Forwarded message --
From: Dawn S. White 
Date: Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Subject: Dogs looking for loving home
To: Barry Schwartzbach , ckear...@att.com, Cathy Denning 
, mybeautifula...@gmail.com, Keith Grober 



This is from a friend of mine who lives in south NJ…does anybody have room for 
these two sweetie pies?
 
  Friends, 
I received this email and thought I would pass it along in hopes that someone 
would respond. Thanks for your time.
Katherine needs our help in finding a good home for her two dogs, Cookie and 
Coco. Even if you can't take them, please pass this around!  Contact: Katherine 
at:kjmorri...@yahoo.com

Here's Katherine's story --
We are moving overseas in just 2 weeks. Unfortunately, I have still not been 
able to find a good home for Cookie and Coco . We're not able to take our 
beloved doggies with us and I've been desperately trying to find a home for 
both of them 'together'. They were raised together and pine without each other. 
The Lab rescue have already said that they would probably separate them, so 
this is my last resort. Recently I tried to take Coco out in my car alone and 
she TOTALLY refused to even get into the car without cookie. She 
absolutely pulled back on her haunches until Cookie was by her side.
Both doggies are in great health, have been spayed and have ID chips implanted 
under their skin. Cookie turned 3 December 10th and Coco turned 3 April 1st. 
Cookie is my mellow-yellow. She just loves her tummy rubbed and lots of 
attention.. Coco is adorably funny and lives for her "ball." She also loves the 
water. Both doggies are loyal and love to walk. They have been raised with my 3 
kids running around all over the place, and have survived Sammy's constant 
hugging and love of 'dress-up', so they are fantastic family dogs. This is by 
far one of the most difficult decisions I have ever had to make, but under the 
circumstances I have no choice.

Please, please forward these pictures to all your friends. I want to find a 
great home for these fabulous doggies. They are just adorable and it's 
heartbreaking to let them go. In a perfect world, I hope that we could find 
someone local so that we can still keep in touch and visit them. I pray that 
someone, somewhere can help us keep Cookie and Coco together, and love them 
just as much as we do. Thank you all from the bottom of heart. Thank You.
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Personal Supercomputers

2009-10-12 Thread It's just a ride
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Rick Archer  wrote:

>
>
>  Personal Supercomputers, 20 to 100 times faster than normal fast PCs, for
> a few $k, using GPUs rather than CPUs.
>
>
>
> Shopping results for *Personal 
> SuperComputer*
>
> **
>
> CUSTOM WORKSTATION, Core™ i7 DDR3 Series Tesla™ HPC *Personal* 
> ...
> $3,167.23 new - AVADirect.com
>
> Psychlone *Personal Supercomputer* with Tesla *supercomputer* 
> card
> $4,400.00 new - Psychsoftpc
>
> CUSTOM WORKSTATION, Phenom™ II X4 DDR2 Series Tesla™ HPC *Personal* 
> ...
> $2,615.09 new - AVADirect.com
>
>
>
>
>
> The constraints in a personal computer are the backplane width and speed
and disk access.  You'd want to have 6 platters with RAID 1+0 to minimize
disk contention.  I run my PCs balls to the wall and invariably I'm
constrained by disk access time.  But I run XP and a lot of time is spent
with a core looping when Windows has lost its mind.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Vasishtha's Cave

2009-10-12 Thread MinP

i wonder why i can't see any pics?  Just oodles of white space in-between 
sentences of text?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> This just came from a friend of a friend.  
>  
> Vasishtha's Cave
>  
> Vasishta is considered one of the greatest Rishis (seers). He is credited 
> with the perception of mandala 7 of the Rig Veda. He had thousands of 
> students studying with him at his ashram to gain enlightenment.
>  
> His cave where he meditated and gained enlightenment is located east of 
> Rishikesh along the Ganges river. Several people assured me that it was, 
> indeed, Vasishta's cave. I visited it with my guide, Surya.
>  
> 
> 
>  
>  Entrance. They keep the gate/door closed to keep animals from coming inside.
>  
> 
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
> Fantastic banyan tree outside. 
>  
> 
> 
>  
>  Surya had a lighter by which he was trying to see in the cave. It was very 
> dark & long. There are mats on the floor to walk and sit on. I used the flash 
> on my camera for us to see.
>  
> 
> 
>  
> This is the end of the cave where there is a little bench/table/altar. Surya 
> told me he had to go to the washroom & I should sit and meditate. I did, 
> about where my feet are in this photo. It was very dark. Then the door opened 
> & a teen came in & laid a flower at the altar & then backed out. I went back 
> to meditating. It was cool, but damp inside. Then from around the corner seen 
> in the above photo, a swami appeared and grabbed my arms, then my hands & 
> tried to pull me to my feet. I muttered some gibberish in my surprise & 
> finally understood that he wanted me to move nearer the altar. He sat on the 
> other side of the table on the left & I sat on the mat in front of the table 
> that you can see here. Surya came in sat on the right & the 3 of us meditated 
> for about 30 minutes.
>  
> 
> 
>  
> After meditating, Surya & I walked down to the Ganges.
>  
> 
> 
>  
> This is looking back towards the cave.
>  
> 
> 
>  
> Surya.
>  
> 
> 
>  
> Rafters & kayakers were going by. We waded & splashed water on ourselves. It 
> was very hot & humid, and the cool water felt refreshing. We sat and talked 
> for about 45 minutes.
>  
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> 
>  
>  
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> 
>  
> The rafters seemed to be having fun. I was told there are 2 category 4 rapids 
> & about 6 category 3's & 2's.
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Vasishtha's Cave

2009-10-12 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 12, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote:


This just came from a friend of a friend.

Vasishtha's Cave

Vasishta is considered one of the greatest Rishis (seers). He is  
credited with the perception of mandala 7 of the Rig Veda. He had  
thousands of students studying with him at his ashram to gain  
enlightenment.


His cave where he meditated and gained enlightenment is located east  
of Rishikesh along the Ganges river. Several people assured me that  
it was, indeed, Vasishta's cave. I visited it with my guide, Surya.


Very nice pictures, Rick.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread yifuxero
To bring up an example:  I've been chanting mantras (japa - outloud or silently 
but separate from TM); since 1972 when I got my GOHONZON at a Buddhist Temple 
in Etiwanda, CA.  With TM, relative benefits are supposedly a byproduct 
(although unpredictable) of a more relaxed nervous system.  There's only a 
tenuous connection between "transcendence" and activity since one can attribute 
relative changes to the relaxation.
 Possibly, one might "transcend" and start reading books on Advaita.
OTOH, people in the Nichiren School - like myself - don't separate Spiritual 
from material, since the Founder - Nichiren, made no such distinction and in 
fact spent a lifetime criticizing orthodox Buddhism for that very reason: 
Orthodox Buddhism creates a monkish lifestyle while retreating from activity 
(and I might add - begging for alms).
 MMY has addressed the question of householder vs monk orientations but imo 
failed to come up with the goods. Back to you Vaj. What are you quibbling about 
now? I forgot. You'll find something to nitpick about.
  Anyway, I'm making the following assertions:  a. "transcendence" has 
unproven/demonstrated value in relation to the multitude of claims made by the 
TMO; but b. one can point to "restful alertness" as a valuable state of 
body-mind, IRRESPECTIVE of which technique induces the state.  Thus, fewer 
ulcers, etc; clearer thinking...but
c. In regard to making correct (Dharmic); productive actions, silent meditation 
if done in excess might be counterproductive - thus, BN: Bliss Ninnies or those 
who might borrow $$ to attend Mother Divine Courses.
My solution since 1972 has been to chant various mantras of Hindu and Buddhist 
origin; but I make no distinction between the WISDOM purpose and other purposes 
for chanting.  Indeed, if you google the Green Tara, you will find a long 
shopping list of Green Tara practice benefits, all intermingled, with no 
distinguishing the Wisdom aspect from the material benefits.
 The person making such a false dichotomy is you, Vaj, since your Guru Norbu 
does it! (makes such a distinction). He's obviously not a devotee of the Green 
Tara.  For example: Among the 21 Tara mantras, #11 addresses and counteracts 
the vil caused by robbers.  #14 averts evil affecting cattle, #16 that of 
poison, and so on.  But #7 is the Tara who increases Wisdom.
  Thus, certain Buddhist schools such as Nichiren's make no distinction between 
various types of desires: material vs Spiritual.
Neo-Advaitins typically make a distinction and attempt to capitalize on the 
supposed difference.
Andrew Cohen is an odd character.  He and his friend Ken Wilber tout 
"evolutionary Consciousness" and then beg for money.  One of his followers 
called me at work.  I basically told her to get lost and said that her Guru was 
a hypocrite.
 I therefore respectfully disagree with any Guru who makes the Wisdom vs 
material dichotomy; and give credit where it's due: to MMY for at least 
ATTEMPTING to fuse the two.  Unfortunately his (TMO) claims for material 
benefits have not panned out -whether the supposed results be due to relaxation 
or "transcendence" or Yagyas.
 OTOH, I recommend chanting various mantras such as the Gayatri, Om Mani Padme 
Hum, or any other legitimate mantras, to get things moving in the relative 
sphere of existence.
 A recent project of mine involves 2 young street people whom I pass by every 
day after work.  They're sitting on their butts on the sidewalk.  I'm 
considering teaching them a mantra to chant but am having a lot of difficulty 
getting started.  A mantra I've selected is excellent for manifestation: The 
preamble to the Gayatri mantra, which is: Om Bhur Bhuvah Svah.  That's it. Dont 
repeat the next part which is in the Rig Veda:. "TAT" through Prachodayat.
 All of the various mantras I chant have proven their worth at work. At times I 
have resorted to mantras to the "Voodoo" Deities to get rid of enemies.
To conclude, a. there's a tenuous connection between "transcendence" and making 
constructive changes, at least in the short run  b. relative benefits can be 
obtained through chanting mantras for specific purposes, or for no purpose.  
The result of chanting is that vibratory currents are set up in the throat 
chakra, body, and the environment which eventually spill over into manifested 
results.
I use various mantras to make mathematical discoveries (having over 4,000 
entries in a certain math Encyclopedia - ok bragging, but just establishing the 
facts).
MY advice:  Do NOT separate (conceptually, or in any other way), Spiritual from 
material: one type of desire vs another. Desires are desires, whether for 
Wisdom or $$. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 8:07 PM, yifuxero wrote:
> 
> > The bottom line is that we can (a) transcend changes, or (b) make  
> > changes.
> > The evidence for the "making changes" part simply isn't there!
> > I therefore agree with the other contributor. The connect

[FairfieldLife] Re: Early American Yogic Flying

2009-10-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5
> > And they are a good example in their decline for how it may 
> > go for TM after MMY with the TMmovement.  
> 
> By 1920 there were only 12 Shakers left in
> the United States. Is this really how you
> see the TMO?  :-)

Shakers as example.   Well, not dissimilar.  A TM-like movement in their day 
that was alive for decades.  Parallel, the Transcendental Meditation movement 
with a million meditators, 30k teacher "exponents of reality",  also a rending 
down to some few.  

May be 12 hundreds left in the TM movement by the time they tried a jump-start 
again with the recent Invincibility course from that recent summer of the 
Lebanon civil war breaking out.  The whole Transcendental Meditation movement 
numbers had dwindled down to a very few hundreds by then.  Is proly a ratio not 
even unlike with the Shaker decline in time by example.  Even evident in 
transcendental meditation `dome numbers' today.  

Also like with the shakers, getting to a point in their own long dwindling 
where they had to hire in outsiders to do the work of the community to have 
enough vitality remaining for the few old Shakers remaining to carry on inside. 
 Not unlike the TMorg and MUM now hiring contract workers to run the kitchens, 
plant the gardens, cut the grass, do the laundry and even come to the domes to 
make the meetings larger. 



>
> 19th Century Yogic Levitation
> 
> Nothing is new under the sun.
> 
> Group Flying (19th Century America)
> "Sometimes the hands are raised, palms outwards, and the position shifted 
> with such quickness and velocity as to indicate the lively, sweet and 
> beautiful motions of the heavenly spirits, in all the charms of heavenly 
> beauty, untainted with the flesh.  Sometimes the subjects of these operations 
> are taken from the floor, as if their feet were snatched from  under them, 
> and they are again caught and supported from falling, as being handled by the 
> most active and powerful agents.  Some are whirled off to a distance and 
> others carried to and fro, or in a circle, with indescribable force…"
> 
> "Jemima Blanchard, of Harvard, having a gift of turning, would sometimes go 
> from the Square House to the South House, whirling rapidly and passing over 
> fences or whatever came in her way, without touching them or making the least 
> effort to clear them. At times she would be entirely supported by the power 
> without touching any material thing."
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , Vaj  wrote:
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 8:07 PM, yifuxero wrote:
>
> > The bottom line is that we can (a) transcend changes, or (b) make
> > changes.
> > The evidence for the "making changes" part simply isn't there!
> > I therefore agree with the other contributor. The connections are
> > tenuous.
> > There could actually be a negative payoff, in certain circumstances;
> > although by no means approaching the levels suggested by Vaj.
> > Usually, people just quit since they haven't seen any results.
>
>
> I would beg to differ--I'd actually propose mental worship and/or
> meditation on an ishta-devata (e.g simple mental mantra recitation)
> can bring and is believed to bring relative benefits. YMMV. The
> question is: when someone isn't aware that the relative benefit is
> essentially a "boon" from a inner goddess radiating her effects via
> your nervous system onto your connection with the outer world; when
> that inner level of intention is missing through deception, does it
> work or does it work as well (as if you knew you were reciting, say, a
> mantra to the goddess of wisdom and inspired speech)? Or can the
> deception block that relative effect?
>
> IME teachers who simply ask their students "what are you looking for,
> or what do you want in life" and then give a mantra for that benefit,
> at least the student has some involvement at the level of intention.
> They are aligned with the benefit. If the student is left in the dark,
> that specific intention is left as an ambiguity.
>

Seeking benefits is stupid.
Meditate and enjoy, that is Maharishi's advice.

OffWorld



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Vaj


On Oct 12, 2009, at 8:07 PM, yifuxero wrote:

The bottom line is that we can (a) transcend changes, or (b) make  
changes.

The evidence for the "making changes" part simply isn't there!
I therefore agree with the other contributor. The connections are  
tenuous.
There could actually be a negative payoff, in certain circumstances;  
although by no means approaching the levels suggested by Vaj.

Usually, people just quit since they haven't seen any results.



I would beg to differ--I'd actually propose mental worship and/or  
meditation on an ishta-devata (e.g simple mental mantra recitation)  
can bring and is believed to bring relative benefits. YMMV. The  
question is: when someone isn't aware that the relative benefit is  
essentially a "boon" from a inner goddess radiating her effects via  
your nervous system onto your connection with the outer world; when  
that inner level of intention is missing through deception, does it  
work or does it work as well (as if you knew you were reciting, say, a  
mantra to the goddess of wisdom and inspired speech)? Or can the  
deception block that relative effect?


IME teachers who simply ask their students "what are you looking for,  
or what do you want in life" and then give a mantra for that benefit,  
at least the student has some involvement at the level of intention.  
They are aligned with the benefit. If the student is left in the dark,  
that specific intention is left as an ambiguity.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Vaj


On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:44 PM, jpgillam wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:

> On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:01 PM, jpgillam wrote:
>
> > > The faculty are about 90% devotees, so their
> > > attempts to impose their values on the students
> > > weren't working. The university is trying to
> > > translate this assessment into practical steps
> > > to become more relevant and appealing to
> > > students.
> >
> > I immersed myself in the TM organization because
> > I wanted to make things happen in my life and the
> > world, and I embraced Maharishi's selling point
> > that transcending influences relative life. Is the
> > connection between transcending and success really
> > so tenuous that the dreamers and entrepreneurs are
> > not sold on its value?
>
> Are you honestly just realizing this now?

Forgive me; realizing what? That the connection
between transcending and success is indeed tenuous?
Or that the MUM faculty have done a poor job of
communicating that connection? Or of making that
connection? Please clarify.



Are you just realizing that MUM is no longer a TM school, teaching TM  
ideals to people who are actually interested in TM, SCI or Vedism?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread yifuxero
anything we do at time slot "a" influences events down the road; so in that 
respect, just seeing a lecture of a genuine Guru can change one's life, as to 
direction. Actualy practice will change it more, obviously, for example - in my 
case - meeting up with people like Charlie, Jerry, etc
 But such Butterfly Effect transformations are true with any endeavor. One 
could decide to join the Army, go to Afghanistan, and get some limbs blown off.
 But you're talking about "transcendence", per se.  Hell no!  The initial 
expectation (per lectures of Jerry J.) would be that TM would eliminate the 
need for the entire profession of psychiatry; as well as eradicate the need for 
taking illegal drugs (since one could supposedly get a superior type of natural 
high, rather than partake of hard drugs).
 But the drug the TMO people took, was of course the hard core Kool-Aid, almost 
as insidious as heroin.
Anyway, imo, Transcendence doesn't do much since transcending cause and effect 
(relativity) is not setting causes into motion.
...
The bottom line is that we can (a) transcend changes, or (b) make changes.
The evidence for the "making changes" part simply isn't there!
I therefore agree with the other contributor. The connections are tenuous. 
There could actually be a negative payoff, in certain circumstances; although 
by no means approaching the levels suggested by Vaj.
Usually, people just quit since they haven't seen any results. 



- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>  
> > On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:01 PM, jpgillam wrote:
> > 
> > > > The faculty are about 90% devotees, so their
> > > > attempts to impose their values on the students
> > > > weren't working. The university is trying to
> > > > translate this assessment into practical steps
> > > > to become more relevant and appealing to
> > > > students.
> > >
> > > I immersed myself in the TM organization because
> > > I wanted to make things happen in my life and the
> > > world, and I embraced Maharishi's selling point
> > > that transcending influences relative life. Is the
> > > connection between transcending and success really
> > > so tenuous that the dreamers and entrepreneurs are
> > > not sold on its value?
> > 
> > Are you honestly just realizing this now?
> 
> Forgive me; realizing what? That the connection 
> between transcending and success is indeed tenuous? 
> Or that the MUM faculty have done a poor job of 
> communicating that connection? Or of making that 
> connection? Please clarify.
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Students Use Bibles to Beat Jewish Students and Roll Joints

2009-10-12 Thread Mike Dixon
Yet Texas just just might elect it's favorite Jew, Kinky Friedman as governor. 
Ever hear of Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jew Boys?





From: Robert 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 2:45:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Students Use Bibles to Beat Jewish Students 
and Roll Joints

  
(snip)
In one particularly disturbing account, a Jewish boy was
> attacked by Christian students throwing the bibles at him.

This is to be expected in Texas...
There are a lot of past life soldiers, 
Nazi soldiers, American 
Soldiers, from Viet Nam, Iraq, and other places around the world...
They were taought how to kill, and because of he corporatization, of the 
State's Psyche, that these humans have sunk to this level

The fascist attitude, has reared, it's ugly head, again, as it has in time 
past, of great chAnge...

So, "God Bless Jeshua bin Joseph", and Barack Obama, both very good exAmples of 
good Jewish boys...

Robert Jeffrey Gimb el





  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread jpgillam

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
 
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:01 PM, jpgillam wrote:
> 
> > > The faculty are about 90% devotees, so their
> > > attempts to impose their values on the students
> > > weren't working. The university is trying to
> > > translate this assessment into practical steps
> > > to become more relevant and appealing to
> > > students.
> >
> > I immersed myself in the TM organization because
> > I wanted to make things happen in my life and the
> > world, and I embraced Maharishi's selling point
> > that transcending influences relative life. Is the
> > connection between transcending and success really
> > so tenuous that the dreamers and entrepreneurs are
> > not sold on its value?
> 
> Are you honestly just realizing this now?

Forgive me; realizing what? That the connection 
between transcending and success is indeed tenuous? 
Or that the MUM faculty have done a poor job of 
communicating that connection? Or of making that 
connection? Please clarify.




[FairfieldLife] Obama's Deserving Peace Prize

2009-10-12 Thread raunchydog
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/101109b.html



[FairfieldLife] Personal Supercomputers

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Archer
Personal Supercomputers, 20 to 100 times faster than normal fast PCs, for a
few $k, using GPUs rather than CPUs.
 
 
 Shopping results for Personal SuperComputer 

 
 
 
CUSTOM WORKSTATION, CoreT i7 DDR3 Series TeslaT HPC Personal ...
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CUSTOM WORKSTATION, PhenomT II X4 DDR2 Series TeslaT HPC Personal ...
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[FairfieldLife] Video - Scary rednecks in Alabama

2009-10-12 Thread do.rflex


Brits take big risks with spoof in redneck Alabama 

Top Gear - Rednecks in Alabama USA - American road trip - BBC


'Top Gear' is a TV program in the UK. They went on a road adventure in the USA.

Question: "Were you really chased out of town by those American rednecks, or 
was it made up for the telly?"


--In the programme in question, we wanted to know if it was possible to buy a 
car and drive across a chunk of the USA for less money than the cost of 
traditional "fly-drive" schemes offered by holiday companies.

It's a pretty lengthy story, but in the course of our trip, by way of an 
entertaining diversion to keep up our spirits during an especially lengthy 
drive, we had devised a plan whereby we would each try to get the others killed.

We would each decorate the others' vehicles with slogans we felt might stir up 
the feelings of the locals, cause maximum discomfort to each driver and raise a 
laugh for the viewer at home. And so, in a broad, dusty lay-by at the side of a 
road leading to Alabama, we parked up and set to with the paintbrushes, spray 
cans and stencils.

On the side of Jeremy's ageing, beaten-up Trans Am I painted the legend, 
"Country music is rubbish".

Jeremy had adorned the flanks of James's 1970s Cadillac with "Hillary for 
president" and "Nascar sucks".

James was still finishing the lettering on the side of my white pick-up truck 
and I didn't want to spoil the moment by peeking before his work was done. 
Eventually, with a confident flourish of the brush, and a grin, James indicated 
that he had completed his masterpiece. We stepped up and surveyed.

Along the side of my truck James had painted just four short words: "Man love 
rules OK".


WATCH what happens: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2syY12OPkwI









Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 12, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Vaj wrote:

Unfortunately their scientific reputation is already quite bad, so  
barring something really good suddenly happening, it would be  
unrealistic to place any hope there. Their main hope for survival it  
seems is to tone down the Vedic crapola, drop the siddhis, promote  
TM, come clean on what it really is and push the sustainability and  
green aspects in a mainstream (not "vedic") way--and/or whore off  
corporate visas should they remain. IMO the real future for the TM  
org is more likely South America, where a more superstitious  
population, less educated in general and hidden from much of the  
dirty laundry via a language gap which hides  what's already gone  
down.


And if even that doesn't work out, I
have a suggestion for them:  robots.
I mean, why the hell not?  For one
thing, it would use up  a lot
of scrap metal--and that's sustainability,
right?  And for another, there'd be
no problem with programming them,
which would figure into their computer
science dept.
No problem with kids or pets either.
I can see a great future for the
university going this route.

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 12, 2009, at 4:44 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> I am just stopping in for a quick visit, after Vaj let me know about  
> this development.
>
> I note the number of "suck it up" posts.  I wouldn't be surprised if  
> that was what had been done for years by the disenchanted.  Now the  
> student population has changed.  Too many students no longer care  
> about meditation.   They come to MUM primarily for reasons other  
> than TM--foreign students interested in the computer courses, others  
> interested in the environmental programs. Students talk, they get a  
> feel of the lay of the land, and then they do a petition. Students  
> are idealists.  This is the kind of thing they do.   They could have  
> been kicked out, which would be in accordance with the rules.  But  
> there were too many of them.  If the survey Rick mentions correctly  
> states the attitudes of MUM students, unless MUM bends there will be  
> no more university.
>
> I wonder what the current drop out rate is?

Oh there is no drop-out rate, Ruth.
The university doesn't allow that--
they just kill em first. :)

>  There just isn't many new generation true believers in the United  
> States. Look at who pisses and moans about TM pro and con on the  
> net--a bunch of 50 plus year olds. Are there any new up and coming  
> researchers or are most of them 60 year old TBs? Who is Orme- 
> Johnson's successor?  I would shed no tears if MUM went belly up.  
> But MUM trustees may have enough sense to realize that survival  
> depends on being more secular.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Students Use Bibles to Beat Jewish Students and Roll Joints

2009-10-12 Thread ShempMcGurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
>   (snip)
>   In one particularly disturbing account, a Jewish boy was
> > attacked by Christian students throwing the bibles at him.
> 
> This is to be expected in Texas...
> There are a lot of past life soldiers, 
> Nazi soldiers, American 
> Soldiers, from Viet Nam, Iraq, and other places around the world...
> They were taought how to kill, and because of he corporatization, of the 
> State's Psyche, that these humans have sunk to this level
> 
> The fascist attitude, has reared, it's ugly head, again, as it has in time 
> past, of great chAnge...
> 
> So, "God Bless Jeshua bin Joseph", and Barack Obama, both very good exAmples 
> of good Jewish boys...
> 
> 
> Robert Jeffrey Gimb el
>


Robert, you're a stupid fucking idiot.

This Texas thing is one silly and inexcusable incident.  Multiply it by about 
10,000 times and it is equal to Barack Obama sitting in that church for 17 
years and listening to that anti-Semite preach.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Vaj


On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:01 PM, jpgillam wrote:


> The faculty are about 90% devotees, so their
> attempts to impose their values on the students
> weren't working. The university is trying to
> translate this assessment into practical steps
> to become more relevant and appealing to
> students.

I immersed myself in the TM organization because
I wanted to make things happen in my life and the
world, and I embraced Maharishi's selling point
that transcending influences relative life. Is the
connection between transcending and success really
so tenuous that the dreamers and entrepreneurs are
not sold on its value?


Are you honestly just realizing this now?

It seems like the writing has been on the wall for sometime now, the  
importing of foreign students on corporate-sponsored job visas, the  
disreputable research has been known at least since the early 80's,  
the growing separation between true believers and people who think  
they're just getting a holistic education (only to find a more cultish  
mindset), etc.


When it became glaringly obvious was around the time of MMY's death  
when people began flocking to Vlodrop. The pictures looked like a day  
trip from an old folks home by and large, with a few grandkids  
straggling along. After the true believers aged, and their kids were  
grown, there was no one really left.


So they tried to go after the "green/sustainable" student market.  
Unfortunately for them, these kids turned out to be way too savvy for  
MUM and the TMO IMO.



If such is the case, the
faculty's course of action seems clear to me:
establish the connection, through research and
personal example. If they cannot make the connection,
the University has no reason to exist.


Unfortunately their scientific reputation is already quite bad, so  
barring something really good suddenly happening, it would be  
unrealistic to place any hope there. Their main hope for survival it  
seems is to tone down the Vedic crapola, drop the siddhis, promote TM,  
come clean on what it really is and push the sustainability and green  
aspects in a mainstream (not "vedic") way--and/or whore off corporate  
visas should they remain. IMO the real future for the TM org is more  
likely South America, where a more superstitious population, less  
educated in general and hidden from much of the dirty laundry via a  
language gap which hides  what's already gone down.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> Judy:
> 
> Game, set, match.
> 
> Nabby:
> 
> Vaj is completely right as it applies to YOU.

McGurk; Get a checking !



[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread yifuxero
MUM would be better off setting up RV trailer parks in Quartzite, Arizona:
http://desertgardensrvpark.net/



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> 
> > > I don't consider involvement in the TMO a prerequisite for being
> > > thought reformed or brainwashed. In fact, it seems like the majority
> > > of the brainwashed people here do not have an involvement in the  
> > TMO.
> > > So clearly, your assumption seems false, to me.
> > >
> >
> > I don't know when you became involved with TM but I noted that the
> > cultish aspects only began to appear towards the end of the 70's. I
> > wasn't much troubled because I wasn't looked upon as someone to knock
> > the local "shakers and movers" off their thrown. I only learned of  
> > some
> > of their fanaticism years later. After 1982 I didn't have much  
> > contract
> > with the movement outside of their ayurvedic introductory lecture in
> > 1985 that they charged $185 for and should have been free. That was it
> > for me.
> >
> > At least where I was the TM centers were pretty easy going in the mid
> > 1970s and a fun social group to hang out with. We saw real "cults" all
> > around and steered clear of those. Even the president of my high  
> > school
> > had a cult going in the Northwest. Pretty funny.
> >
> > When I went to TTC I had been informed of the minefields to be found
> > there and steered clear of them. Some of the "professionals" in my
> > group almost got bumped off the course because they didn't like the
> > rules. I played the game and in Maharishi parlance "got the  
> > goods." :-D
> 
> It became acutely obvious to me as the first people I knew came back  
> from (then) MIU. TTC folks learned to hide it well or be gone. One of  
> the most disturbing was the unspoken caste system where wealth = more  
> support of nature = more evolved. And conversely less money = less  
> support of nature = less evolved. Of course Fairfield has to be the  
> only place I know where Utopia was a trailer park. :-)
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Students Use Bibles to Beat Jewish Students and Roll Joints

2009-10-12 Thread Robert
  (snip)
  In one particularly disturbing account, a Jewish boy was
> attacked by Christian students throwing the bibles at him.

This is to be expected in Texas...
There are a lot of past life soldiers, 
Nazi soldiers, American 
Soldiers, from Viet Nam, Iraq, and other places around the world...
They were taought how to kill, and because of he corporatization, of the 
State's Psyche, that these humans have sunk to this level

The fascist attitude, has reared, it's ugly head, again, as it has in time 
past, of great chAnge...

So, "God Bless Jeshua bin Joseph", and Barack Obama, both very good exAmples of 
good Jewish boys...


Robert Jeffrey Gimb el



[FairfieldLife] United Cyprus

2009-10-12 Thread nablusoss1008
100 yogic flyers could bring peace to Cyprus
By Stefanos Evripidou

IT WOULD only take only one hundred Yogic Flyers permanently based in
Cyprus to knock down the walls, symbolic and real, keeping Cypriots
apart, meditation experts said yesterday.

"Just 100 experts, trained in the Maharishi Technology of the
Unified Field, are sufficient to create a strong harmonious and friendly
atmosphere for the whole island, said Theodore M. Pizanis, Director of
the Cyprus Association for the Advancement of Science of Creative
Intelligence.

"They will promote peace, confidence and co-operation for all
Cypriots so that the longtime separation of north and south will soon
come to an end. With our programme we follow the UNESCO constitution
which states that `wars begin in the minds of men. It is in the
minds of men that the defences of peace must be constructed',"
said Pizanis.

The initiative for a "United Cyprus" aiming at reunification of
the island through transcendental meditation (TM) will be inaugurated
this Saturday at the Ledra Palace Hotel in Nicosia at 7pm.

TM was founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi at the end of the fifties. He
died last year aged 90.

"The goal is to try to develop a programme for that purpose and
present our knowledge and findings from various trouble zones, which are
quite unprecedented," said Pizanis, noting that between 1,500 and
2,000 Cypriots have already practiced some form of TM across the island.

A number of international and local experts will speak on the mechanics
of Maharishi Technology of the Unified Field, described as "a time
tested scientific knowledge proven to produce enormous benefits for the
individual and society". Attendees will also get to hear a
performance of Maharishi Gandharva Veda music, considered the science of
sounds and melodies, presented by Reshma Srivastava on sitar. In TM
circles, Gandharva Veda is renowned for its ability to create harmonious
influences in nature. "The sitar has a profound effect on reducing
social tensions and creating a harmonious society," said Pizanis.

He also believes that with a permanent group of 100 Yogic Flyers in
Cyprus, societal stress, the root cause of all violent, disharmonious
and hostile behaviour, will be dissolved. "A strong atmosphere of
cordiality and harmony will become a living reality in the daily
personal and societal life of all Cypriots," he added.

George Psychis, one of the first TM-Sidhi practitioners in Cyprus
visited the Maharishi University of Management (MUM) in the USA for
three months this summer, during which he participated in a group
programme with 2,000 Sidhas in the community.

"It was an amazing experience," he said. Psychis said he
recognised the effectiveness of so many people doing their meditation
and advanced techniques together, to create a peaceful harmonious
environment which enriches every culture.

Akis Christophides, a dental surgeon in Nicosia, pointed out that the
Technology of the Unified Field is a technology of consciousness.
"The effect of the technology lies in the collective consciousness
of the whole population. Over fifty studies have shown that group
practice of the technology causes quality of life indices to go up,
negative trends in society like crime and accidents to go down and even
terrorism and war to abate," he said.

According to the Journal of Social Behaviour and Personality, there is a
link between the Unified Field Technology and feelings of contentment
and happiness among the population. In 1993, a two-month demonstration
in Washington D.C. with up to 4,000 Yogic Flyers, experts in one of the
advanced techniques of TM who are able to "hop" from the ground
while sitting in the lotus position, showed that crime fell 23 per cent
below the predicted level.

A study published in the Journal of Offender Rehabilitation argued that
when large groups (about 7,000) assembled between 1983 and 1985, deaths
due to terrorism decreased 72 per cent, international conflicts 32 per
cent and violence was reduced.

To hear Reshma Srivastava prior to her solo concert type in
"Maharishi Concert part 1" at www.youtube.com. Reshma performed
in Cyprus in the past on the occasion of India's 50th anniversary of
Independence in 1998, before President Glafcos Clerides and other
dignitaries.

For more information please contact Theodore Pizanis at 24622555. Access
to Ledra Palace Hotel is limited and restricted to pre-registered guests
only.



Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009


[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread ruthsimplicity
I am just stopping in for a quick visit, after Vaj let me know about this 
development.

I note the number of "suck it up" posts.  I wouldn't be surprised if that was 
what had been done for years by the disenchanted.  Now the student population 
has changed.  Too many students no longer care about meditation.   They come to 
MUM primarily for reasons other than TM--foreign students interested in the 
computer courses, others interested in the environmental programs. Students 
talk, they get a feel of the lay of the land, and then they do a petition. 
Students are idealists.  This is the kind of thing they do.   They could have 
been kicked out, which would be in accordance with the rules.  But there were 
too many of them.  If the survey Rick mentions correctly states the attitudes 
of MUM students, unless MUM bends there will be no more university. 

I wonder what the current drop out rate is?  

There just isn't many new generation true believers in the United States. Look 
at who pisses and moans about TM pro and con on the net--a bunch of 50 plus 
year olds. Are there any new up and coming researchers or are most of them 60 
year old TBs? Who is Orme-Johnson's successor?  I would shed no tears if MUM 
went belly up. But MUM trustees may have enough sense to realize that survival 
depends on being more secular. 

In any event, it will be interesting.  

Ruth


 







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Vaj


On Oct 12, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


> I don't consider involvement in the TMO a prerequisite for being
> thought reformed or brainwashed. In fact, it seems like the majority
> of the brainwashed people here do not have an involvement in the  
TMO.

> So clearly, your assumption seems false, to me.
>

I don't know when you became involved with TM but I noted that the
cultish aspects only began to appear towards the end of the 70's. I
wasn't much troubled because I wasn't looked upon as someone to knock
the local "shakers and movers" off their thrown. I only learned of  
some
of their fanaticism years later. After 1982 I didn't have much  
contract

with the movement outside of their ayurvedic introductory lecture in
1985 that they charged $185 for and should have been free. That was it
for me.

At least where I was the TM centers were pretty easy going in the mid
1970s and a fun social group to hang out with. We saw real "cults" all
around and steered clear of those. Even the president of my high  
school

had a cult going in the Northwest. Pretty funny.

When I went to TTC I had been informed of the minefields to be found
there and steered clear of them. Some of the "professionals" in my
group almost got bumped off the course because they didn't like the
rules. I played the game and in Maharishi parlance "got the  
goods." :-D


It became acutely obvious to me as the first people I knew came back  
from (then) MIU. TTC folks learned to hide it well or be gone. One of  
the most disturbing was the unspoken caste system where wealth = more  
support of nature = more evolved. And conversely less money = less  
support of nature = less evolved. Of course Fairfield has to be the  
only place I know where Utopia was a trailer park. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Hardball - Alan Grayson (D-FL) shows Dems what courage is

2009-10-12 Thread do.rflex


Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ovFPzY-Ud4



[FairfieldLife] Clinton: ‘Absurd’ to call me marginalized

2009-10-12 Thread raunchydog
"Secretary of State Hillary Clinton scoffed Monday at suggestions that she has 
been "largely invisible" on major foreign policy issues in the Obama White 
House, and said that she has no interest in another run at the White House."

read more:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33276688/ns/today-today_people/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread jpgillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> A study was then conducted that determined 
> that the student body consists of 
>  
> . 30% entrepreneurs - career-oriented kids 
> who mainly want to learn skills and enter 
> the workforce. TM and SCI aren't high priorities. 

> . 60% "dreamers" who want to change the world. 
> They appreciate TM but don't see it as the 
> lynchpin of that endeavor. They're into
> environmentalism and other causes.

> . 10% devotees
>  
> The faculty are about 90% devotees, so their 
> attempts to impose their values on the students 
> weren't working. The university is trying to 
> translate this assessment into practical steps 
> to become more relevant and appealing to
> students.

I immersed myself in the TM organization because 
I wanted to make things happen in my life and the 
world, and I embraced Maharishi's selling point 
that transcending influences relative life. Is the 
connection between transcending and success really 
so tenuous that the dreamers and entrepreneurs are 
not sold on its value? If such is the case, the 
faculty's course of action seems clear to me: 
establish the connection, through research and 
personal example. If they cannot make the connection, 
the University has no reason to exist.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Students Use Bibles to Beat Jewish Students and Roll Joints

2009-10-12 Thread WillyTex


John wrote:
> Texas Students Use Bibles to Beat Jewish 
> Students and Roll Joints
> 
Don't you just hate those Texas students who 
use Gideon Bibles to roll joints! 



[FairfieldLife] 3 traits of Ardi

2009-10-12 Thread yifuxero
Ardi - 4.4 million year old skeleton of a female found in Ethiopa, featured on 
Discovery channel last night.

3 interesting traits of Ardi (apart from the fact that she's like a composite 
of humanoids and chimps, but having her own unique characteristics.) Btw, 
researchers will have to look for the convergent primate of apes and humans in 
older territory.

Anyway, the 3 striking traits are:
1. opposible toe, used for climbing.  Presumably Ardi could sleep in trees with 
her offspring, or perhaps look for fruits in trees. However, this large toe is 
not particularly adaptive to efficient bipedal travel.  Lucy's toes could all 
fit into a shoe and she was better at walking.

2. The environment of Ardi was a forest, rather than Savannah; and there's a 
distinct evolutionary advantage in such places in having the bipedal walking 
ability in regard to collecting various foodstuffs
The capacity to walk upright is dependent on a certain connecting bone in the 
hip area, possessed by Ardi, along with certain other features.

3. Third interesting feature was the lack of large canines. (chimps, gorillas, 
baboons, and various other primates have large canines - an advantage in 
fighting other animals and male rivals...or at least used in threatening 
postures.)

Ardi had canines closer in size to humans, pointing to some other evolutionary 
advantage besides direct attacks on enemies.  The idea here is that the long 
canines "devolved" out of existence through selection, favoring the shorter 
lengths appropriate to (say) food gathering.
Thus over time the females would opt for the males with the shorter canines 
since they might have been more adept at gathering food; rather than spending 
time showing the vicious fangs and beating the chest. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote:
>
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:09 AM, ShempMcGurk wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> > Man were you brainwashed!
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> On a daily basis, Vajina, you insist on telling us how badly we TMers 
>> were "brainwashed" by the TMO.
>
>
> I have only occasionally made this remark, and it is not one I like to 
> make. I do not make it every day. You're exaggerating.
>
>> Yes, I suppose the TMO has and continues still to brainwash and, yes, 
>> I suppose there are a certain contingent of TBers that will drink the 
>> kool-aid any chance they get.
>>
>> But to paint the ENTIRE meditating population -- even those of us 
>> that went to MIU or were teachers -- is silly. If we were brainwashed 
>> as much as you suggest we were, we'd all still be in the TMO...and 
>> certainly not posting on a "rogue" forum such as this.
>>
>
> I don't consider involvement in the TMO a prerequisite for being 
> thought reformed or brainwashed. In fact, it seems like the majority 
> of the brainwashed people here do not have an involvement in the TMO. 
> So clearly, your assumption seems false, to me.
>

I don't know when you became involved with TM but I noted that the 
cultish aspects only began to appear towards the end of the 70's.  I 
wasn't much troubled because I wasn't looked upon as someone to knock 
the local "shakers and movers" off their thrown.  I only learned of some 
of their fanaticism years later.  After 1982 I didn't have much contract 
with the movement outside of their ayurvedic introductory lecture in 
1985 that they charged $185 for and should have been free.  That was it 
for me.

At least where I was the TM centers were pretty easy going in the mid 
1970s and a fun social group to hang out with.  We saw real "cults" all 
around and steered clear of those.  Even the president of my high school 
had a cult going in the Northwest.  Pretty funny.

When I went to TTC I had been informed of the minefields to be found 
there and steered clear of them.  Some of the "professionals" in my 
group almost got bumped off the course because they didn't  like the 
rules.  I played the game and in Maharishi parlance "got the goods." :-D





[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread yifuxero
Extinctions are part of evolution too. Lucy gives way to Ardi, and modern 
humans replaced Lucy. Other groups such as the Neanderthals met with extinction.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
>
> >  
> > I wonder whether all this is related to Bevan Morris' recent withdrawal from
> > the board of trustees?
> >
> 
> 
> Is Spirituality failing at MUM?  Nay, not unless Nature is failing and they 
> are failing nature.
> 
> Thought and spiritual life move in spirals; each great spiral returning on 
> itself, yet ever higher, ever onward.  Progression is the way of life.  
> Always at the passing of the old and the coming of the new is a period of 
> apparent decline, as between the harvest of one year and the leaf stage of 
> the next.  As in physical nature, so in spiritual life, organizations obey 
> the tidal law of ebb and flood, the spiral law of retrogression and fresh 
> advance.
> 
> One meditating student may be worth one whole student body with out 
> meditation.  Nay, even a few meditators and a whole nation without 
> meditation.  So the science says.  Meditators may not be scholars necessarily 
> or necessarily people of genius.  In appearance they may also be simple; but 
> they are with spirituality and people with spiritual ideas, and capable of 
> sacrifice.  Fairfield is a lot of just that.  MUM should stay that.  Spare 
> the rod, spoil the child.  Bring back Bevan, if he can get in the country.
> 
> JGD,
> -Doug in FF
> 
> 
> >
> > Recently, about 300 students signed a petition vowing that they were all
> > going to drop out if the university didn't stop forcing them to meditate by
> > taking attendance at mandatory group meditations. MUM caved, and that policy
> > was dropped. A study was then conducted that determined that the student
> > body consists of 
> >  
> > . 30% entrepreneurs - career-oriented kids who mainly want to learn
> > skills and enter the workforce. TM and SCI aren't high priorities. 
> > . 60% "dreamers" who want to change the world. They appreciate TM
> > but don't see it as the lynchpin of that endeavor. They're into
> > environmentalism and other causes.
> > . 10% devotees
> >  
> > The faculty are about 90% devotees, so their attempts to impose their values
> > on the students weren't working. The university is trying to translate this
> > assessment into practical steps to become more relevant and appealing to
> > students.
> >  
> > I wonder whether all this is related to Bevan Morris' recent withdrawal from
> > the board of trustees?
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread ShempMcGurk
Judy:

Game, set, match.

Nabby:

Vaj is completely right as it applies to YOU.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:09 AM, ShempMcGurk wrote:
> >  
> > > > On a daily basis, Vajina, you insist on telling us how
> > > > badly we TMers were "brainwashed" by the TMO.
> > > 
> > > I have only occasionally made this remark, and it is
> > > not one I like to make.
> > 
> > Bullshit. Vaj makes it regularly, freely, and casually
> > (albeit not every day), typically as an ad hominem
> > retort rather than as a considered observation. (And
> > when he's not using the specific term, he has a 
> > repertoire of associated insults, such as references
> > to TMers' "programming" or "indoctrination.")
> > 
> > Examples of his use of "brainwashing" (all referring
> > to TMers, individually or as a group, or including
> > TMers):
> > 
> > 232064
> > Man were you brainwashed!
> > 
> > 230976
> > Sheesh I didn't even go to Brainwash U. like you
> > 
> > 225986
> > You're already brainwashed by Guru Bev
> > 
> > 209032
> > Talk to Edg. He's spent a lot of time with Marshy kids 
> > brainwashing programs.
> > 
> > 192361
> > Your TM brainwashing is showing.
> > 
> > 184723
> > There are a number of brainwashing-like elements in any
> > cult like the TMO
> > 
> > 178480
> > I guess I'll just have to chock [sic] it up to naivete
> > or to cult brainwashing
> > 
> > 158457
> > These are the real anti-science people, all of whom were
> > apparently fooled, brainwashed or didn't really know what
> > science was in the first place.
> > 
> > 157538
> > It's also one the hardest parts of TM indoctrination and
> > brainwashing for TMers to let go of 
> > 
> > 143211
> > So IF the studies are just partially containing some
> > validity, it also means they may have come up with one
> > of the best brainwashing schemes ever.
> > 
> > 139967
> > Methinks thou art brainwashed.  
> > 
> > 128217
> > To propose that consistent *failure* to transcend is
> > "success" is TB and brainwashed nonsense.
> > 
> > 126318
> > If something appeared to happen (or even if it didn't)
> > there was a clutch of brainwashed scientists to massage
> > the numbers 
> > 
> > 107878
> > Like brainwashing you?
> > 
> > 78827 
> > Truly Brainwashed
> 
> BINGO !
> He's so brainwashed by so-called "Buddhism" that he sees brainwashed people 
> everywhere.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5
>  
> I wonder whether all this is related to Bevan Morris' recent withdrawal from
> the board of trustees?
>


Is Spirituality failing at MUM?  Nay, not unless Nature is failing and they are 
failing nature.

Thought and spiritual life move in spirals; each great spiral returning on 
itself, yet ever higher, ever onward.  Progression is the way of life.  Always 
at the passing of the old and the coming of the new is a period of apparent 
decline, as between the harvest of one year and the leaf stage of the next.  As 
in physical nature, so in spiritual life, organizations obey the tidal law of 
ebb and flood, the spiral law of retrogression and fresh advance.

One meditating student may be worth one whole student body with out meditation. 
 Nay, even a few meditators and a whole nation without meditation.  So the 
science says.  Meditators may not be scholars necessarily or necessarily people 
of genius.  In appearance they may also be simple; but they are with 
spirituality and people with spiritual ideas, and capable of sacrifice.  
Fairfield is a lot of just that.  MUM should stay that.  Spare the rod, spoil 
the child.  Bring back Bevan, if he can get in the country.

JGD,
-Doug in FF


>
> Recently, about 300 students signed a petition vowing that they were all
> going to drop out if the university didn't stop forcing them to meditate by
> taking attendance at mandatory group meditations. MUM caved, and that policy
> was dropped. A study was then conducted that determined that the student
> body consists of 
>  
> . 30% entrepreneurs - career-oriented kids who mainly want to learn
> skills and enter the workforce. TM and SCI aren't high priorities. 
> . 60% "dreamers" who want to change the world. They appreciate TM
> but don't see it as the lynchpin of that endeavor. They're into
> environmentalism and other causes.
> . 10% devotees
>  
> The faculty are about 90% devotees, so their attempts to impose their values
> on the students weren't working. The university is trying to translate this
> assessment into practical steps to become more relevant and appealing to
> students.
>  
> I wonder whether all this is related to Bevan Morris' recent withdrawal from
> the board of trustees?
>




[FairfieldLife] Nobel bump?: Obama's approval rises

2009-10-12 Thread do.rflex


Something funny has happened on the way home from Copenhagen, where
President Barack Obama lost his bid for the Chicago Olympics:

His public approval has risen.

Something else came out of Oslo in the meantime: A Nobel Prize for
Peace.

We're hard-pressed for any other explanation for today's measurement of
the president's job approval in the Gallup Poll's daily trackng surveys:
56 pecent.


Up 2 percentage points in a day.

Just last week, the president's approval rating had fallen to 50 percent
in the Gallup track, as measured in the average of surveys from Oct.
3-5. That marked a second slump to the lowest point of his presidency in
the Gallup track -- Obama had seen 50 a month before. That also followed
the International Olympic Committee's rejection of Chicago's bid for the
2016 Olympic Summer Games on Oct. 2.

But later in the week, and with two days of polling in since the Nobel
Committee announced Obama's Peace Prize at dawn Eastern Daylight Time on
Friday, Obama's approval-rating rose again.

Today, it's 56 percent -- still some 13 points shy of the peak that the
president reached, 69 percent, in the Gallup track in the days following
his inauguration. But still well above water.

One of our Republican sources suggests today that perhaps it's because
Obama hasn't spent every hour of the last several days touting "an
unpopular health-care plan." But the big news of the past few days was
the Nobel. If anyone has another explanation for the turnaround in the
last few days, we're glad to hear it, here in the Swamp.

http://snipurl.com/sh7if   [www_swamppolitics_com]










[FairfieldLife] The University Staff

2009-10-12 Thread yifuxero
Faculty and admin, Soka University (Buddhist based education)...in the Nichiren 
School.  All chant NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO.  Not attending the group chants would 
be out of the question.  Are you kidding me?  The whole school 
chants...everybody gets high together.  Neat!  Far more exciting than group 
meditations with TM.

http://www.soka.edu/about_soka/staff/default.aspx


  Now let's see the staff from MUM, and compare.





[FairfieldLife] BYU Jerusalem Center, Mormon based education

2009-10-12 Thread yifuxero
Travel to Jerusalem, get a "Real" education; but watch your wallet.

http://ce.byu.edu/jc/



[FairfieldLife] Soka University, Buddhist based education

2009-10-12 Thread yifuxero
Get a "Real" education at Soka University!
http://www.soka.edu/








[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > 
> > On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:09 AM, ShempMcGurk wrote:
>  
> > > On a daily basis, Vajina, you insist on telling us how
> > > badly we TMers were "brainwashed" by the TMO.
> > 
> > I have only occasionally made this remark, and it is
> > not one I like to make.
> 
> Bullshit. Vaj makes it regularly, freely, and casually
> (albeit not every day), typically as an ad hominem
> retort rather than as a considered observation. (And
> when he's not using the specific term, he has a 
> repertoire of associated insults, such as references
> to TMers' "programming" or "indoctrination.")
> 
> Examples of his use of "brainwashing" (all referring
> to TMers, individually or as a group, or including
> TMers):
> 
> 232064
> Man were you brainwashed!
> 
> 230976
> Sheesh I didn't even go to Brainwash U. like you
> 
> 225986
> You're already brainwashed by Guru Bev
> 
> 209032
> Talk to Edg. He's spent a lot of time with Marshy kids 
> brainwashing programs.
> 
> 192361
> Your TM brainwashing is showing.
> 
> 184723
> There are a number of brainwashing-like elements in any
> cult like the TMO
> 
> 178480
> I guess I'll just have to chock [sic] it up to naivete
> or to cult brainwashing
> 
> 158457
> These are the real anti-science people, all of whom were
> apparently fooled, brainwashed or didn't really know what
> science was in the first place.
> 
> 157538
> It's also one the hardest parts of TM indoctrination and
> brainwashing for TMers to let go of 
> 
> 143211
> So IF the studies are just partially containing some
> validity, it also means they may have come up with one
> of the best brainwashing schemes ever.
> 
> 139967
> Methinks thou art brainwashed.  
> 
> 128217
> To propose that consistent *failure* to transcend is
> "success" is TB and brainwashed nonsense.
> 
> 126318
> If something appeared to happen (or even if it didn't)
> there was a clutch of brainwashed scientists to massage
> the numbers 
> 
> 107878
> Like brainwashing you?
> 
> 78827 
> Truly Brainwashed

BINGO !
He's so brainwashed by so-called "Buddhism" that he sees brainwashed people 
everywhere.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Early American Yogic Flying

2009-10-12 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > 
> > Anyone heard Bevan reflect on the decades of decline as he presided over 
> > it? 31 years as Pres of Trustees.  
> > 
> > How does he explain it and feel about how it went?  Would be insightful to 
> > someday hear the heartfelt interview about the years of dwindle.
> >
> 
> 
> I recall walking with him and commiserating with him about `how it was going' 
> one day on the Amherst course back when we were younger.  I knew him before 
> from courses in Europe.  He had come in charge by Amherst then and his was a 
> deep chagrin even then about people who were not following the schedule so 
> closely.  Seems he took care of that, staking administrative guideline for 
> the teaching, as the hard-line doctrinal guideliner.  Not a lot of empathy 
> that way in the kid even then.


Empathy with weaklings without inner discipline that preffer to chat and go to 
cafees or do hikes instead of being on the Programme, empathy with diasters 
like Barry ?

Oh please !



[FairfieldLife] Texas Students Use Bibles to Beat Jewish Students and Roll Joints

2009-10-12 Thread do.rflex

Bible Battles: Students Use Free Gideon Bibles in Texas Schools to Beat
Jewish Students and Roll Joints

by Jonathan Turley


  [200px-Gideon] 
 
[140px-Family-bible] 
 Texas parents are complaining that a program to distribute free
Gideon Bibles at schools may have backfired. So many Bibles were
distributed to students in Plano and Frisco that students reportedly
began to use them as weapons, sold them, or even uses the pages to roll
joints. In one particularly disturbing account, a Jewish boy was
attacked by Christian students throwing the bibles at him.


The American Civil Liberties Union has issued a report on the abuse.
Various complaints have been filed over the program by Gideons
International. We previously followed one such controversy in Frisco
where the violence has been reported, here
 .

The attack on the Jewish student occurred at Frankford Middle School
  in Plano.

It appears "going Biblical" in Texas schools can have a slightly
more threatening meaning than other states.

For the story, click here
 .


via: http://snipurl.com/sh4vw   [jonathanturley_org]





[FairfieldLife] "I saw cotton and I saw black; tall white mansions and little shacks."

2009-10-12 Thread do.rflex

"I saw cotton and I saw black; tall white mansions and little shacks."
[from lyrics to 'Southern Man' by Neil Young]


Robert Stacy McCain
Oppressed Confederate-American

Dear Mr. McCain  ,

  [BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5391488302351858674] 
 You're right. When libislamunistofascists hear
about a son of the Confederacy like Pat Lanzo, they immediately attack
him by flinging charges of racism. They look at the signs he places at
his roadhouse and condemn him without even trying to understand the
heavy burden he carries as a Confederate-American. They fail to
understand that phrases like "Obama's plan for health-care: Nigger rig
it  ," "A Monkey,
Obama. Is there a difference?,
 " "Damn Yankees May Have Taken Our Niggers But Not
Our Guns

," and "Obama A Vision of a dream - James Earl Ray
 "
are simply examples of policy disagreements made by what you describe
  as a beat-down Southerner who finally "surrender[ed] to the
stereotype."

You know how Lanzo feels--no doubt you too have been tempted to
surrender to the stereotype. Your ties to such white pride sites as
VDARE
  and organizations like American Renaissance
  are
often cited as evidence that you are a racist. The same holds true for
how libislmunistofascists interpret your opposition
  to
mixed-race marriages, defense of slavery
 , and
fondness for the Confederate cause
 .

It's amazing you haven't given into temptation and begun flinging the
word "nigger" around (at least not in public, anyway). Maybe you should.
It might feel liberating to someone like you.

Heterosexually yours,

Gen. JC Christian, patriot

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2009/10/i-saw-cotton-and-i-saw-black-tall\
-white.html







[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread yifuxero
http://www.bju.edu/

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Have to agree with Doug here. When I was at MUM, the TM
> > > > practice was considered a course, just like any other.
> > > > It was a required course. Students saying they are being
> > > > "forced" to meditate is absurd. It's like students at
> > > > another uni saying they are "forced" to take a course in
> > > > the humanities, or "forced" to take English composition,
> > > > in order to graduate. If you don't like the mandatory
> > > > courses at a college, go somewhere else, but don't whine
> > > > about being "forced" to take them.
> > > 
> > > Indeed.
> > > 
> > > MUM advertises its curriculum as "consciousness-based
> > > education" in which all students practice TM twice
> > > daily (according to the current Web site).
> > > 
> > > That's right up front and is presumably *why* someone
> > > would go to MUM rather than someplace else. To
> > > complain about this requirement after you get there
> > > is absurd, as it is for MUM to "cave" on it.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> It's the same situation one faces at a religion-run school. If you sign up 
> with the place, you are expected to follow THEIR rules of personal behavior 
> and practices - even if those rules are nuts. 
> 
> YOU were the nut in the first place who agreed to their nutty requirements.
> 
> When I went to BYU, for example, I was required to take religion classes even 
> though I wasn't a Mormon. So I took the classes. I was also expected to 
> follow THEIR religious standards of behavior on 'and' off campus. 
> 
> At around 8 every morning they'd play the National Anthem on a speaker system 
> that blasted over the whole multi-acre campus. Everyone stopped in their 
> tracks and put their hands over their hearts. It made me think of the same 
> kind of robotic political nationalism I'd seen in films of Nazi Germany.
> 
> Two semesters of attending that [what I perceived to be] fascist religious 
> institution, was all I could stomach. At the first opportunity, I transferred 
> to the U of Utah.
> 
> 
> 
> > It's right that you can't whine later about having
> > to meditate once you've agreed to a "consciousness 
> > based education". Unless you aren't getting any of the
> > promised benefits of course.
> > 
> > But isn't all this a rather sad admission of the failure
> > of TM to create enlightened people and the coherent 
> > communities promised by MMY. If it's all failed let's
> > admit it and change the TM mythos to reflect how it 
> > *is* rather than try and promise students and the world 
> > some sort of mythical heaven on earth.
> > 
> > For instance, I'm sure they'd get more respect from the
> > scientific community if they kept it realistic and spoke
> > from the results of experiment rather than promising actual realisation of 
> > vedic beliefs like flying and creating world
> > peace. They'd get invited to more conferences for a start 
> > and the whole thing could be based on evidence rather than
> > Marshy's wild promises. It's hard to take it seriously when
> > it's so weird, I can't imagine what these kids think when
> > they turn up at MUM and find they have a king!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > (Plus which, obviously nobody can be "forced to
> > > meditate." They can be required to gather in a
> > > group and sit with closed eyes for 20 minutes, but
> > > not to meditate.)
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > [quoting Rick]
> > > > > > Recently, about 300 students signed a petition vowing
> > > > > > that they were all going to drop out if the university
> > > > > > didn't stop forcing them to meditate by taking
> > > > > > attendance at mandatory group meditations. MUM caved,
> > > > > > and that policy was dropped.
> > > 
> > > I'd be interested to see the text of the petition.
> > > Rick, can you get ahold of the petition and post it?
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] "Late-Night Comedians Turning on Obama"

2009-10-12 Thread authfriend
>From TV Guide:

Late-Night Comedians Turning on Obama
By Douglas J. Rowe
Sun Oct 11, 11:49 AM PDT 

"That's pretty amazing, winning the Nobel Peace 
Prize," Jay Leno said Friday night of President 
Barack Obama's latest accolade. "Ironically, his 
biggest accomplishment as president so far ... 
winning the Nobel Peace Prize." 

That joke may be indicative of the TV comedy world 
sharpening its arrows a bit more when the current 
occupant of the White House is the target, The New 
York Times reports. 

The Times quotes Bob Lichter, who has tracked themes 
in late-night humor for 21 years, as saying "it will 
be telling to see how the comedians treat" the 
president's winning the peace prize: Is there now a 
caricature taking hold of a man more celebrated than 
accomplished?

Lichter, of George Mason University's Center for 
Media and Public Affairs, said it was too soon to 
tell whether the Oct. 3 Saturday Night Live skit 
suggesting that Obama has accomplished nothing is a 
"harbinger" or not. "The danger is that Mr. Obama is 
going to be defined by inaction and not living up to 
expectations," he said.

SNL this weekend joined in the jokes about Obama not 
deserving the prize just yet, suggesting that honors 
like People's Sexiest Man designation may soon go to 
children.

Last week Jon Stewart continued with the "done 
nothing" theme on The Daily Show, chiding Obama for 
not yet getting around to reversing the military's 
"Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy about gays. He cited 
Obama's "full plate" of business.

Stewart then acted apoplectic, displaying his 
exasperation. "All that stuff you've been putting on 
your plate?" he said. "It's [expletive] chow time, 
brother. That's how you get things off your plate."

Ric Keller, a former Republican congressman from 
Florida who once wrote jokes for former Florida Gov. 
Jeb Bush, told the Times: "There have been some clear 
shots coming across the bow from the comic left."

But Jeff Nussbaum, a Democratic speech and joke 
writer, disagreed that late-night comedy is a leading 
indicator of the zeitgeist. "To use an economic term, 
it is more of a lagging indicator," he said.

Those old enough to remember Watergate might recall 
that it took Johnny Carson awhile to start making 
jokes about President Richard Nixon and his 
connection to the break-in. But once the Tonight show 
host did, it felt like the beginning of the end for 
the U.S. leader who eventually resigned.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news_print?pid=tv.tvguide.com&id=latenight-comedians-turning-obama-20091011

http://tinyurl.com/yf5sdmk




[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> 
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:09 AM, ShempMcGurk wrote:
 
> > On a daily basis, Vajina, you insist on telling us how
> > badly we TMers were "brainwashed" by the TMO.
> 
> I have only occasionally made this remark, and it is
> not one I like to make.

Bullshit. Vaj makes it regularly, freely, and casually
(albeit not every day), typically as an ad hominem
retort rather than as a considered observation. (And
when he's not using the specific term, he has a 
repertoire of associated insults, such as references
to TMers' "programming" or "indoctrination.")

Examples of his use of "brainwashing" (all referring
to TMers, individually or as a group, or including
TMers):

232064
Man were you brainwashed!

230976
Sheesh I didn't even go to Brainwash U. like you

225986
You're already brainwashed by Guru Bev

209032
Talk to Edg. He's spent a lot of time with Marshy kids 
brainwashing programs.

192361
Your TM brainwashing is showing.

184723
There are a number of brainwashing-like elements in any
cult like the TMO

178480
I guess I'll just have to chock [sic] it up to naivete
or to cult brainwashing

158457
These are the real anti-science people, all of whom were
apparently fooled, brainwashed or didn't really know what
science was in the first place.

157538
It's also one the hardest parts of TM indoctrination and
brainwashing for TMers to let go of 

143211
So IF the studies are just partially containing some
validity, it also means they may have come up with one
of the best brainwashing schemes ever.

139967
Methinks thou art brainwashed.  

128217
To propose that consistent *failure* to transcend is
"success" is TB and brainwashed nonsense.

126318
If something appeared to happen (or even if it didn't)
there was a clutch of brainwashed scientists to massage
the numbers 

107878
Like brainwashing you?

78827 
Truly Brainwashed




[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> > > MUM advertises its curriculum as "consciousness-based
> > > education" in which all students practice TM twice
> > > daily (according to the current Web site).
> > > 
> > > That's right up front and is presumably *why* someone
> > > would go to MUM rather than someplace else. To
> > > complain about this requirement after you get there
> > > is absurd, as it is for MUM to "cave" on it.
> 
> It's the same situation one faces at a religion-run
> school. If you sign up with the place, you are expected
> to follow THEIR rules of personal behavior and practices -
> even if those rules are nuts.

It's the same situation one faces at *any* school
(and many other institutions and organizations with
which one signs up). It isn't peculiar to religious
schools by any means.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ASUS Network Media Player

2009-10-12 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote:
> Bhairitu wrote:
>   
>> ...it only outputs HD using HDMI and my 9 
>> year old HDTV only has component in...
>>
>> 
> >From what I've read, the only way to get HD
> 1080p is with HDMI. 
>
> HP MediaSmart Server:
> http://tinyurl.com/ykr988v
Yes, you need a progressive scan set.  My 9 year old HD RPTV only has 
1080i because that's all that was available back then.  1080p is not (or 
wasn't) part of the ATSC standard. It's also a 53" set with overscan so 
to get a similar sized image I would have to go up to about 60" because 
the overscan makes the set only display 960 lines.  I will probably do 
with a slightly smaller image and get a 55" LCD set as they are 
reasonably priced under $2K.   Some shows are not using "safe area" in 
production so stuff gets cut off the top, bottom and sides on my set.

What's good about the ASUS is all the video formats it can handle.  
Other devices are more limited.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread do.rflex


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Have to agree with Doug here. When I was at MUM, the TM
> > > practice was considered a course, just like any other.
> > > It was a required course. Students saying they are being
> > > "forced" to meditate is absurd. It's like students at
> > > another uni saying they are "forced" to take a course in
> > > the humanities, or "forced" to take English composition,
> > > in order to graduate. If you don't like the mandatory
> > > courses at a college, go somewhere else, but don't whine
> > > about being "forced" to take them.
> > 
> > Indeed.
> > 
> > MUM advertises its curriculum as "consciousness-based
> > education" in which all students practice TM twice
> > daily (according to the current Web site).
> > 
> > That's right up front and is presumably *why* someone
> > would go to MUM rather than someplace else. To
> > complain about this requirement after you get there
> > is absurd, as it is for MUM to "cave" on it.
> 



It's the same situation one faces at a religion-run school. If you sign up with 
the place, you are expected to follow THEIR rules of personal behavior and 
practices - even if those rules are nuts. 

YOU were the nut in the first place who agreed to their nutty requirements.

When I went to BYU, for example, I was required to take religion classes even 
though I wasn't a Mormon. So I took the classes. I was also expected to follow 
THEIR religious standards of behavior on 'and' off campus. 

At around 8 every morning they'd play the National Anthem on a speaker system 
that blasted over the whole multi-acre campus. Everyone stopped in their tracks 
and put their hands over their hearts. It made me think of the same kind of 
robotic political nationalism I'd seen in films of Nazi Germany.

Two semesters of attending that [what I perceived to be] fascist religious 
institution, was all I could stomach. At the first opportunity, I transferred 
to the U of Utah.



> It's right that you can't whine later about having
> to meditate once you've agreed to a "consciousness 
> based education". Unless you aren't getting any of the
> promised benefits of course.
> 
> But isn't all this a rather sad admission of the failure
> of TM to create enlightened people and the coherent 
> communities promised by MMY. If it's all failed let's
> admit it and change the TM mythos to reflect how it 
> *is* rather than try and promise students and the world 
> some sort of mythical heaven on earth.
> 
> For instance, I'm sure they'd get more respect from the
> scientific community if they kept it realistic and spoke
> from the results of experiment rather than promising actual realisation of 
> vedic beliefs like flying and creating world
> peace. They'd get invited to more conferences for a start 
> and the whole thing could be based on evidence rather than
> Marshy's wild promises. It's hard to take it seriously when
> it's so weird, I can't imagine what these kids think when
> they turn up at MUM and find they have a king!
> 
> 
> 
> > (Plus which, obviously nobody can be "forced to
> > meditate." They can be required to gather in a
> > group and sit with closed eyes for 20 minutes, but
> > not to meditate.)
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> > > wrote:
> > [quoting Rick]
> > > > > Recently, about 300 students signed a petition vowing
> > > > > that they were all going to drop out if the university
> > > > > didn't stop forcing them to meditate by taking
> > > > > attendance at mandatory group meditations. MUM caved,
> > > > > and that policy was dropped.
> > 
> > I'd be interested to see the text of the petition.
> > Rick, can you get ahold of the petition and post it?
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2012 Movie Charlie Frost Blog

2009-10-12 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>   
>> Charlie Frost is a character in the upcoming movie "2012.
>> He is played by Woody Harrelson and is a radio talk show 
>> host.   To promote the movie they've created a Charlie 
>> Frost Blog at http://thisistheend.com/
>>
>> There are some videos there as well as on YouTube and I 
>> watched a few OnDemand on Comcast in HD.  Enjoy!
>> 
>
> OK, if you've seen the five-minute clip of
> this movie that was posted earlier, you know
> that to some extent it's tongue in cheek, and
> making fun of the people who believe in this
> 2012 Doomsday stuff. And the character of 
> Charlie Frost couldn't possibly be more of a
> parody of the real-live versions of such
> Doomsayers.
>   

Yup, fun stuff.  The funny thing is that Alex Jones who was in a movie 
with Woody Harrelson ("A Scanner Darkly") claims that the Frost 
character is based on him.  But I would think the video shows more of a 
Jeff Rense/George Noory type of character.   I don't know what Roland 
Emmerich believes but if you've seen "10,000 BC" it has a bit that 
alludes to the lore of the Veda about advanced beings (who were gods the 
people were worshiping).   I found it  was entertaining and not as bad 
as critics thought.  I bet "2012" gets bad reviews too.
> *However*, I cannot help but find it sad to
> sae a movie company building an entire P.R. 
> campaign on mass fear and superstition, and
> worse in a way, trying to make a buck on it.
>   

It should do well being that it isn't competing with the summer 
blockbusters.  People will be up for something like this.  Remember that 
Emmerich's "Independence Day" showed the White House being blown up in 
the trailer and people loved that.  People are interested in the 2012 
thing whether they believe something is going to happen or not.  So it 
made a good subject for a film.  I'm sure there will be lots of laughter 
in the theater.
> "Disaster movies" cater IMO to the inherent
> sense of self-importance that human beings 
> have about such things. Either "I am so impor-
> tant that all these huge things are happening
> during my lifetime," or "I am so important 
> that because I'm so cool as to see them coming
> (or "because I'm a Chrisschun...whatever") I
> may survive the coming disaster."
>   

Um, I would say the sense of "self-importance" is catered to more in the 
super hero movies.  IOW, the belief that someone can become a super hero 
and save the world.
> It strikes me as not only pandering to a fear
> of Doomsday but trying to increase the group
> psychic power contributing to such a thing.
> If you can get millions of people placing all
> of their attention on some future disaster,
> aren't you helping to bring it about?

Some kind of "predictive programming?"  

What comes after December 21st, 2012?  December 22nd, 2012.  :-D



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Vaj


On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:09 AM, ShempMcGurk wrote:




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:

[snip]

> Man were you brainwashed!

[snip]

On a daily basis, Vajina, you insist on telling us how badly we  
TMers were "brainwashed" by the TMO.



I have only occasionally made this remark, and it is not one I like  
to make. I do not make it every day. You're exaggerating.


Yes, I suppose the TMO has and continues still to brainwash and,  
yes, I suppose there are a certain contingent of TBers that will  
drink the kool-aid any chance they get.


But to paint the ENTIRE meditating population -- even those of us  
that went to MIU or were teachers -- is silly. If we were  
brainwashed as much as you suggest we were, we'd all still be in  
the TMO...and certainly not posting on a "rogue" forum such as this.




I don't consider involvement in the TMO a prerequisite for being  
thought reformed or brainwashed. In fact, it seems like the majority  
of the brainwashed people here do not have an involvement in the TMO.  
So clearly, your assumption seems false, to me.


Perhaps it was YOU who was brainwashed and you assume everyone else  
was like you? Why else would you keep insisting upon it...and to do  
it with such ferocity and so consistently for these many years --  
nay, decades -- in itself suggests a kind of brainwashing, I suggest.




I am responding to the topics as they arise. It probably would be a  
good idea to find a more scientifically based term than brainwashed.  
Let me think about it a little more. Thanks.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5


> 
> > Have to agree with Doug here. When I was at MUM, the TM practice  
> > was considered a course, just like any other. It was a required  
> > course. Students saying they are being "forced" to meditate is  
> > absurd. It's like students at another uni saying they are "forced"  
> > to take a course in the humanities, or "forced" to take English  
> > composition, in order to graduate. If you don't like the mandatory  
> > courses at a college, go somewhere else, but don't whine about  
> > being "forced" to take them.
> 
> 
> Man were you brainwashed!
> 

No,simply not true or honest.  We know our experience with it thank you.  
You're presuming a lot.  Is too large a statement to make.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread It's just a ride
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Rick Archer  wrot

>
>
>   *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *ShempMcGurk
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 12:01 AM
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments
>
>
>
>
> **
>
> I don't understand what or who "mud people" are.
>
> Please elaborate.
>
> It's a racial slur against dark-skinned people.
>
>
Wrong.  It's part of the beliefs of a Christian sect.  The sect follows the
Christian Identity Beliefs, vis
http://www.rickross.com/reference/christian_identity/christianidentity10.html

or

  http://tinyurl.com/3ybxd .  Rick is getting racism confused with religious
beliefs, which beliefs are protected by the Bill of Rights of the US
Constitution.**


[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Have to agree with Doug here. When I was at MUM, the TM
> > > practice was considered a course, just like any other.
> > > It was a required course. Students saying they are being
> > > "forced" to meditate is absurd. It's like students at
> > > another uni saying they are "forced" to take a course in
> > > the humanities, or "forced" to take English composition,
> > > in order to graduate. If you don't like the mandatory
> > > courses at a college, go somewhere else, but don't whine
> > > about being "forced" to take them.
> > 
> > Indeed.
> > 
> > MUM advertises its curriculum as "consciousness-based
> > education" in which all students practice TM twice
> > daily (according to the current Web site).
> > 
> > That's right up front and is presumably *why* someone
> > would go to MUM rather than someplace else. To
> > complain about this requirement after you get there
> > is absurd, as it is for MUM to "cave" on it.
> 
> It's right that you can't whine later about having
> to meditate once you've agreed to a "consciousness 
> based education". Unless you aren't getting any of the
> promised benefits of course.

In which case you should probably just leave. To demand
to be allowed to stay without having to follow the
requirements doesn't make sense.

> But isn't all this a rather sad admission of the failure
> of TM to create enlightened people and the coherent 
> communities promised by MMY.

Dunno. I'm very dubious that we have the whole story
about this petition business.

The only way it would make sense to me is if the
students were resisting having to be in a specific
place at a specific time to meditate and were
demanding that they be trusted to do their meditation
when and where it was convenient for them.

I'm not particularly concerned about the failure of
"coherent communities" as defined by MMY. He had some
very weird notions along those lines. If what it means
to be part of the MUM community is becoming more
flexible, that's swell, and by no means necessarily a
failure--quite possibly the opposite.

But if students aren't getting anything from doing
TM, that's a different story. One has to wonder why
the current crop would not be benefiting when so many
previous ones did.

 If it's all failed let's
> admit it and change the TM mythos to reflect how it 
> *is* rather than try and promise students and the world 
> some sort of mythical heaven on earth.
> 
> For instance, I'm sure they'd get more respect from the
> scientific community if they kept it realistic and spoke
> from the results of experiment rather than promising actual
> realisation of vedic beliefs like flying and creating world
> peace. They'd get invited to more conferences for a start 
> and the whole thing could be based on evidence rather than
> Marshy's wild promises. It's hard to take it seriously when
> it's so weird, I can't imagine what these kids think when
> they turn up at MUM and find they have a king!

I doubt having a king affects them a whole lot.

But I agree that toning down the weirdness quotient would
be a big step in the right direction.




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[FairfieldLife] Why Israel may very well bomb Iran

2009-10-12 Thread ShempMcGurk
Oil was up to $73.00 a barrel.

It was only hovering around $70.00, alot of the time being below that 
benchmark.  But ever since a news report from last week that Israel would bomb 
Iran if sanctions weren't put into place by year's end, Mr. Clampett's Black 
Gold has been making a move.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread ShempMcGurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:


[snip]

> Man were you brainwashed!

[snip]

On a daily basis, Vajina, you insist on telling us how badly we TMers were 
"brainwashed" by the TMO.

Yes, I suppose the TMO has and continues still to brainwash and, yes, I suppose 
there are a certain contingent of TBers that will drink the kool-aid any chance 
they get.

But to paint the ENTIRE meditating population -- even those of us that went to 
MIU or were teachers -- is silly.  If we were brainwashed as much as you 
suggest we were, we'd all still be in the TMO...and certainly not posting on a 
"rogue" forum such as this.

Perhaps it was YOU who was brainwashed and you assume everyone else was like 
you? Why else would you keep insisting upon it...and to do it with such 
ferocity and so consistently for these many years -- nay, decades -- in itself 
suggests a kind of brainwashing, I suggest.

I think, Vajina, that you were a blind believer who was brainwashed yourself.  
But what you inadvertently reveal about yourself by your continual rants is 
that, if true, then you are as stupid as everyone else in the TMO.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayan Calendar: 2012

2009-10-12 Thread Hugo


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> 2012 isn't the end of the world, Mayans insist

If they were into predictions they weren't very good at it because
they didn't know the Spanish were going to invade, which had a rather 
more calamitous effect on their civilisation than a pole shift would
have on ours.

Here's hoping something occurs though. An alien invasion would be
really cool and quite the photo opportunity!


>  
> By MARK STEVENSON, Associated Press Writer
>  
>  
> (10-11) 00:58 PDT MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) --
>  
> Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded with frantic questions
> about the Mayan calendar supposedly "running out" on Dec. 21, 2012. After
> all, it's not the end of the world.
>  
> Or is it?
>  
> Definitely not, the Mayan Indian elder insists. "I came back from England
> last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff."
>  
> It can only get worse for him. Next month Hollywood's "2012" opens in
> cinemas, featuring earthquakes, meteor showers and a tsunami dumping an
> aircraft carrier on the White House.
>  
> At Cornell University, Ann Martin, who runs the "Curious? Ask an Astronomer"
> Web site, says people are scared.
>  
> "It's too bad that we're getting e-mails from fourth-graders who are saying
> that they're too young to die," Martin said. "We had a mother of two young
> children who was afraid she wouldn't live to see them grow up."
>  
> Chile Pixtun, a Guatemalan, says the doomsday theories spring from Western,
> not Mayan ideas.
>  
> A significant time period for the Mayas does end on the date, and
> enthusiasts have found a series of astronomical alignments they say coincide
> in 2012, including one that happens roughly only once every 25,800 years.
>  
> But most archaeologists, astronomers and Maya say the only thing likely to
> hit Earth is a meteor shower of New Age philosophy, pop astronomy, Internet
> doomsday rumors and TV specials such as one on the History Channel which
> mixes "predictions" from Nostradamus and the Mayas and asks: "Is 2012 the
> year the cosmic clock finally winds down to zero days, zero hope?"
>  
> It may sound all too much like other doomsday scenarios of recent decades -
> the 1987 Harmonic Convergence, the Jupiter Effect or "Planet X." But this
> one has some grains of archaeological basis.
>  
> One of them is Monument Six.
>  
> Found at an obscure ruin in southern Mexico during highway construction in
> the 1960s, the stone tablet almost didn't survive; the site was largely
> paved over and parts of the tablet were looted.
>  
> It's unique in that the remaining parts contain the equivalent of the date
> 2012. The inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012
> involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and
> creation.
>  
> However - shades of Indiana Jones - erosion and a crack in the stone make
> the end of the passage almost illegible.
>  
> Archaeologist Guillermo Bernal of Mexico's National Autonomous University
> interprets the last eroded glyphs as maybe saying, "He will descend from the
> sky."
>  
> Spooky, perhaps, but Bernal notes there are other inscriptions at Mayan
> sites for dates far beyond 2012 - including one that roughly translates into
> the year 4772.
>  
> And anyway, Mayas in the drought-stricken Yucatan peninsula have bigger
> worries than 2012.
>  
> "If I went to some Mayan-speaking communities and asked people what is going
> to happen in 2012, they wouldn't have any idea," said Jose Huchim, a Yucatan
> Mayan archaeologist. "That the world is going to end? They wouldn't believe
> you. We have real concerns these days, like rain."
>  
> The Mayan civilization, which reached its height from 300 A.D. to 900 A.D.,
> had a talent for astronomy
>  
> Its Long Count calendar begins in 3,114 B.C., marking time in roughly
> 394-year periods known as Baktuns. Thirteen was a significant, sacred number
> for the Mayas, and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.
>  
> "It's a special anniversary of creation," said David Stuart, a specialist in
> Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin. "The Maya never said
> the world is going to end, they never said anything bad would happen
> necessarily, they're just recording this future anniversary on Monument
> Six."
>  
> Bernal suggests that apocalypse is "a very Western, Christian" concept
> projected onto the Maya, perhaps because Western myths are "exhausted."
>  
> If it were all mythology, perhaps it could be written off.
>  
> But some say the Maya knew another secret: the Earth's axis wobbles,
> slightly changing the alignment of the stars every year. Once every 25,800
> years, the sun lines up with the center of our Milky Way galaxy on a winter
> solstice, the sun's lowest point in the horizon.
>  
> That will happen on Dec. 21, 2012, when the sun appears to rise in the same
> spot where the bright center of galaxy sets.
>  
> Another spooky coincidence?
>  

[FairfieldLife] Kirk Bernhardt's Birthday

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Archer
Today is Kirk's B-Day. Even though he's not on FFL at the moment, if you
want to send him a B-Day greeting, his email is kirk_bernha...@cox.net.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Hugo


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > 
> > Have to agree with Doug here. When I was at MUM, the TM
> > practice was considered a course, just like any other.
> > It was a required course. Students saying they are being
> > "forced" to meditate is absurd. It's like students at
> > another uni saying they are "forced" to take a course in
> > the humanities, or "forced" to take English composition,
> > in order to graduate. If you don't like the mandatory
> > courses at a college, go somewhere else, but don't whine
> > about being "forced" to take them.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> MUM advertises its curriculum as "consciousness-based
> education" in which all students practice TM twice
> daily (according to the current Web site).
> 
> That's right up front and is presumably *why* someone
> would go to MUM rather than someplace else. To
> complain about this requirement after you get there
> is absurd, as it is for MUM to "cave" on it.

It's right that you can't whine later about having
to meditate once you've agreed to a "consciousness 
based education". Unless you aren't getting any of the
promised benefits of course.

But isn't all this a rather sad admission of the failure
of TM to create enlightened people and the coherent 
communities promised by MMY. If it's all failed let's
admit it and change the TM mythos to reflect how it 
*is* rather than try and promise students and the world 
some sort of mythical heaven on earth.

For instance, I'm sure they'd get more respect from the
scientific community if they kept it realistic and spoke
from the results of experiment rather than promising actual realisation of 
vedic beliefs like flying and creating world
peace. They'd get invited to more conferences for a start 
and the whole thing could be based on evidence rather than
Marshy's wild promises. It's hard to take it seriously when
it's so weird, I can't imagine what these kids think when
they turn up at MUM and find they have a king!



> (Plus which, obviously nobody can be "forced to
> meditate." They can be required to gather in a
> group and sit with closed eyes for 20 minutes, but
> not to meditate.)
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> > wrote:
> [quoting Rick]
> > > > Recently, about 300 students signed a petition vowing
> > > > that they were all going to drop out if the university
> > > > didn't stop forcing them to meditate by taking
> > > > attendance at mandatory group meditations. MUM caved,
> > > > and that policy was dropped.
> 
> I'd be interested to see the text of the petition.
> Rick, can you get ahold of the petition and post it?
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: 2012 Movie Charlie Frost Blog

2009-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:

> "Disaster movies" cater IMO to the inherent
> sense of self-importance that human beings 
> have about such things. Either "I am so impor-
> tant that all these huge things are happening
> during my lifetime," or "I am so important 
> that because I'm so cool as to see them coming
> (or "because I'm a Chrisschun...whatever") I
> may survive the coming disaster."

Nah, that's not why people like disaster movies.
This is just Putdown #396, "Self-importance," from
Barry's standard list, grafted on to disaster
movies because he urgently needed to deliver himself
of a putdown and the disaster movie gentre was a
convenient hook.

It doesn't even make sense. Few disaster movies are
about prophecies being fulfilled, for one thing;
and for another, "all these huge things" portrayed
in disaster movies are *not* actually happening.

People like disaster movies not because of their
sense of self-importance but because they feel
helpless and these movies assuage their fears. They
want to feel that massive disasters only happen in
the movies. Watching a disaster unfold onscreen
helps exorcise the fear that it will happen in real
life.

If Barry hadn't been so anxious to get off a putdown
that he didn't put any thought into it, he could
have used his Putdown #257, "Silly Fears of Bad Things
Happening," which would have been much more
appropriate.

Oh, wait...

> It strikes me as not only pandering to a fear
> of Doomsday

He's trying to stick in Putdown #257 as well, even
though it doesn't work at all with #396. He must
have had the sense that #396 was absurd, but he was
in such a state of anxiety to get off the putdown
that he couldn't take the time to go back and do it
over properly, so he just added #257 as an
afterthought.

 but trying to increase the group
> psychic power contributing to such a thing.
> If you can get millions of people placing all
> of their attention on some future disaster,
> aren't you helping to bring it about?

No.

Apparently Barry himself has Silly Fears of Bad
Things Happening. And we all know how badly he
suffers from a sense of self-importance.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> 
> Have to agree with Doug here. When I was at MUM, the TM
> practice was considered a course, just like any other.
> It was a required course. Students saying they are being
> "forced" to meditate is absurd. It's like students at
> another uni saying they are "forced" to take a course in
> the humanities, or "forced" to take English composition,
> in order to graduate. If you don't like the mandatory
> courses at a college, go somewhere else, but don't whine
> about being "forced" to take them.

Indeed.

MUM advertises its curriculum as "consciousness-based
education" in which all students practice TM twice
daily (according to the current Web site).

That's right up front and is presumably *why* someone
would go to MUM rather than someplace else. To
complain about this requirement after you get there
is absurd, as it is for MUM to "cave" on it.

(Plus which, obviously nobody can be "forced to
meditate." They can be required to gather in a
group and sit with closed eyes for 20 minutes, but
not to meditate.)

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
[quoting Rick]
> > > Recently, about 300 students signed a petition vowing
> > > that they were all going to drop out if the university
> > > didn't stop forcing them to meditate by taking
> > > attendance at mandatory group meditations. MUM caved,
> > > and that policy was dropped.

I'd be interested to see the text of the petition.
Rick, can you get ahold of the petition and post it?




[FairfieldLife] Re: ASUS Network Media Player

2009-10-12 Thread WillyTex
Bhairitu wrote:
> ...it only outputs HD using HDMI and my 9 
> year old HDTV only has component in...
>
>From what I've read, the only way to get HD
1080p is with HDMI. 

HP MediaSmart Server:
http://tinyurl.com/ykr988v



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Vaj


On Oct 12, 2009, at 9:08 AM, feste37 wrote:

Have to agree with Doug here. When I was at MUM, the TM practice  
was considered a course, just like any other. It was a required  
course. Students saying they are being "forced" to meditate is  
absurd. It's like students at another uni saying they are "forced"  
to take a course in the humanities, or "forced" to take English  
composition, in order to graduate. If you don't like the mandatory  
courses at a college, go somewhere else, but don't whine about  
being "forced" to take them.



Man were you brainwashed!

They may pass TM off as a course, but a course isn't something you  
repeat en masse two times a day for the rest of your college years. A  
course is also something where you are taught the state of the art  
for a certain relative truth. It is not something where you are  
supposed to be deliberately deceived as to what's going down!  
Normally you take your course, pass it and you move on. At MIU/MUM if  
you do not comply to daily trance induction, you're kicked out. As a  
mandatory element, daily, for years, it was a thought-reform exercise  
for those not into it (i.e. 90% on the current MUM student body).


"For we know that the hypnotized never lie,
 Do ya?"

-Pete Townsend
"We Won't Get Fooled Again"

[FairfieldLife] Re: [I'm Doing Time on Broadway]

2009-10-12 Thread shukra69
just stop smoking so much weed and you will be fine Robert

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> My nose hurts, from all the plastic, fantastic surgery...
> I lost all my money because of Bernie Maddoff.
> I had to sell my soul to the devil, for a loaf of bread.
> Mr. Rogers, doesn't live in my neighborhood.
> I am alone, most of the time, except for the wild parties, every nit at  
> 3:00am.
> Help me if you can, I'm feelin' down...
> Yesterday, all my troubles, seemed to far away
> Somewhere Marta Farra, combs her hair...
> 
> R.G.  2009
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread feste37


Have to agree with Doug here. When I was at MUM, the TM practice was considered 
a course, just like any other. It was a required course. Students saying they 
are being "forced" to meditate is absurd. It's like students at another uni 
saying they are "forced" to take a course in the humanities, or "forced" to 
take English composition, in order to graduate. If you don't like the mandatory 
courses at a college, go somewhere else, but don't whine about being "forced" 
to take them. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> >
> > Recently, about 300 students signed a petition vowing that they were all
> > going to drop out if the university didn't stop forcing them to meditate by
> > taking attendance at mandatory group meditations. MUM caved, and that policy
> > was dropped. 
> 
> 
> Such children they are.  They just don't know.  Young people need to be 
> looked out after until they are olde enough to take care of themselves.  If 
> they don't want to meditate and won't, let them go to Indian Skills Community 
> College.  Push them out of the Tee-pee, that will learn them.  They were 
> lucky little shits and threw it all away. Tough love.
> 
> JGD,
> -D in FF
>



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:01 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments
 
  
I don't understand what or who "mud people" are.

Please elaborate.
It's a racial slur against dark-skinned people. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "It's just a ride"
 wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:22 PM, ShempMcGurk  wrote:
> > My first reaction to the fascinating post below is that ever since the
advent of all the "extras" that the TMO sells and emphasizes these days --
schtapatyaveda, ayurveda, yagyas, sidhis, etc. etc. -- has, simply, watered
down the core message of TM.  Not only are people NOT starting TM in droves
they way they did in the '70s but those that do start, such as the students
described here, don't put much priority on it BECAUSE THE TMO DOESN'T
EITHER.  I mean, how can they when the message is watered down with all this
other stuff.  You can't say out of one side of your mouth that capturing the
fort with 20 minutes of TM is all you need to have access to the goldmines
that are in control of the fort and then, out of the other side of your
mouth, sell and promote all those goldmines as "extras".  Something's gotta
give, and in this case it's TM.
> >
> 
> TM meditators were in the eyes of Maharishi lower than whale shit. I
> remember how low I was. Locked out of courses, couldn't see tapes,
> which tapes I can't understand why they need to be kept from the whale
> shit. Couldn't attend meetings, WPAs. It got down to a residence
> course a year offered at MIU if you were lucky. And the residence
> courses were offered for rising sidhas and as infomercials for the
> sidhis.
> 
> So MUM can't have it both ways. There's no equation to factor
> meditators into the Dome numbers. The TMers don't count.
> Furthermore, when I go to the mens dorms, I don't see a single white
> face. Well, now there's one, an RA who's on IA. They are all mud
> people who came here because someone else was paying. These people
> don't give a shit for MUM, Fairfield, Iowa, the United States or TM.
> They came to get what they could because they couldn't join a pirate
> ship or score it big spending spam as a solicitor looking to smuggle
> money out of their countries.
> 
> 
> Arise, wretched of the earth
> Arise, convicts of hunger
> Reason thunders in its crater
> This is the eruption of the end
> Of the past let us wipe the slate clean
> Enslaved masses, arise, arise
> The world is about to change its foundation
> We are nothing, let us be all
> This is the final struggle
> Let us group together, and tomorrow The Internationale
> Will be the human race.
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Early American Yogic Flying

2009-10-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5


> 
> Anyone heard Bevan reflect on the decades of decline as he presided over it? 
> 31 years as Pres of Trustees.  
> 
> How does he explain it and feel about how it went?  Would be insightful to 
> someday hear the heartfelt interview about the years of dwindle.
>


I recall walking with him and commiserating with him about `how it was going' 
one day on the Amherst course back when we were younger.  I knew him before 
from courses in Europe.  He had come in charge by Amherst then and his was a 
deep chagrin even then about people who were not following the schedule so 
closely.  Seems he took care of that, staking administrative guideline for the 
teaching, as the hard-line doctrinal guideliner.  Not a lot of empathy that way 
in the kid even then.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5


>
> Recently, about 300 students signed a petition vowing that they were all
> going to drop out if the university didn't stop forcing them to meditate by
> taking attendance at mandatory group meditations. MUM caved, and that policy
> was dropped. 


Such children they are.  They just don't know.  Young people need to be looked 
out after until they are olde enough to take care of themselves.  If they don't 
want to meditate and won't, let them go to Indian Skills Community College.  
Push them out of the Tee-pee, that will learn them.  They were lucky little 
shits and threw it all away. Tough love.

JGD,
-D in FF





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Vaj


On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:22 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote:

My first reaction to the fascinating post below is that ever since  
the advent of all the "extras" that the TMO sells and emphasizes  
these days -- schtapatyaveda, ayurveda, yagyas, sidhis, etc. etc.  
-- has, simply, watered down the core message of TM.


Bad rationale. I bet the students still get the same spiel they used  
to: boring SCI, and a required set of interdisciplinary courses  
filled with quantum nonsense that are simply transparent cult-crap to  
todays savvy students--even if they do try to censor the web from them.


They just don't fall for it like the glassy-eyed rounders of yesteryear.

Not only are people NOT starting TM in droves they way they did in  
the '70s but those that do start, such as the students described  
here, don't put much priority on it BECAUSE THE TMO DOESN'T EITHER.


Bullshit. TM is still the central core of their "consciousness-based"  
scam. In fact the "sidhis" don't even work (that is, if you believe  
they work at all) without TM.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Interesting MUM Developments

2009-10-12 Thread Vaj


On Oct 11, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

Recently, about 300 students signed a petition vowing that they  
were all going to drop out if the university didn't stop forcing  
them to meditate by taking attendance at mandatory group  
meditations. MUM caved, and that policy was dropped. A study was  
then conducted that determined that the student body consists of




· 30% entrepreneurs - career-oriented kids who mainly want  
to learn skills and enter the workforce. TM and SCI aren't high  
priorities.


· 60% "dreamers" who want to change the world. They  
appreciate TM but don't see it as the lynchpin of that endeavor.  
They're into environmentalism and other causes.


· 10% devotees



The faculty are about 90% devotees, so their attempts to impose  
their values on the students weren't working. The university is  
trying to translate this assessment into practical steps to become  
more relevant and appealing to students.


Hmmm. I guess the "principle of charm" didn't turn out to be that  
charming after all!

[FairfieldLife] "Mud people" (was Re: Interesting MUM Developments)

2009-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
wrote:
>
> I don't understand what or who "mud people" are.
>
> Please elaborate.

I don't think Bill (Tom) needs to elaborate.
Given his history of posts, I think we can
safely assume that he sees nothing wrong
with this doll:

  [http://imgur.com/eDHOJ.jpg]

http://imgur.com/eDHOJ.jpg


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and gay rights (Attn: Rachel Maddow)

2009-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "It's just a ride" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Alex Stanley
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > You think that's bad? Try going to a straight bar! 
> > > What's with all the men with their unbuttoned shirts, 
> > > gold chains, and garish oversized macho watches? And, 
> > > you just *know* that if they're not manscaping the 
> > > upper torso, they're not manscaping the lower torso, 
> > > either. C'mon, what woman wants a mouth full of 
> > > huevos peludos? Yuck! With so many icky unfabulous 
> > > straight boys, it's no wonder that the hot chicks 
> > > all go to the gay dance clubs!
> > ^
> > Alex, you're going to a Guido bar.
> 
> Hey, if Robert can judge gay people as a whole by gay bars, 
> then I can judge straight folks by stereotypical het-boy 
> unfabulousness.

Alex, I can assure you that straight women agree
with you 100%. I have heard my women friends (both
in Europe and in the US, but especially in the US)
voice exactly the same sentiments. 

>From my side, I talk about "hanging out in bars"
here from time to time mainly to push the prudes'
buttons, and don't actually do much of it, for the
same reasons you expressed. I am *embarrassed* by
the men in "mating bars." If I go out to a bar, it's
to a quiet "conversation bar" with a higher level of
clientele, and usually with a group of friends. I
don't go to bars to pick up women; that is *much*
more easily done in cafes, where one can actually
hear the other person talking. The music in "mating
bars" is usually so loud that you can't. I have a
feeling it's that way because the people who go to
such places have nothing to say and the music 
allows them to hide that fact. :-)

When I was working with my gay friends in Chicago on
a Web project there for a few weeks, they took me out
to a few of their favorite gay bars. I was immediately
struck by how *subtle* they were compared to the equiv-
alent hetero "mating bars." No one was grossly coming
on to anyone else, everybody was keeping their dicks
in their pants (both literally and energetically), 
and it was by far a more subtle and refined energy
and atmosphere in the gay bars. Go figure...exactly
the opposite to the common straight person's stereo-
type of what such places are like.

Yes, there are some gay bars that are "over the top"
and fit the straight people's stereotypes, but even
the most over the top of them in Sitges isn't as
embarrassing as the straight "pickup" bars. I pity
the women who go to them hoping to meet an inter-
esting guy. They'd have better luck trying to find
a popsicle in Hell.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and gay rights (Attn: Rachel Maddow)

2009-10-12 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "It's just a ride" 
 wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Alex Stanley
>  wrote:
> >
> > You think that's bad? Try going to a straight bar! What's with all the men 
> > with their unbuttoned shirts, gold chains, and garish oversized macho 
> > watches? And, you just *know* that if they're not manscaping the upper 
> > torso, they're not manscaping the lower torso, either. C'mon, what woman 
> > wants a mouth full of huevos peludos? Yuck! With so many icky unfabulous 
> > straight boys, it's no wonder that the hot chicks all go to the gay dance 
> > clubs!
> 
> Alex, you're going to a Guido bar.

Hey, if Robert can judge gay people as a whole by gay bars, then I can judge 
straight folks by stereotypical het-boy unfabulousness.



[FairfieldLife] Catholic Church Logo :-)

2009-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
Still in "WTF are they thinking?" mode after learning
that the age of consent in the Vatican Nation is 12, I
appreciated this classic Catholic Church logo from 1973:







[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and gay rights (Attn: Rachel Maddow)

2009-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "It's just a ride" 
 wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Alex Stanley
>  wrote:
> >
> > You think that's bad? Try going to a straight bar! What's 
> > with all the men with their unbuttoned shirts, gold chains, 
> > and garish oversized macho watches? And, you just *know* 
> > that if they're not manscaping the upper torso, they're 
> > not manscaping the lower torso, either. C'mon, what woman 
> > wants a mouth full of huevos peludos? Yuck! With so many 
> > icky unfabulous straight boys, it's no wonder that the hot 
> > chicks all go to the gay dance clubs!
> 
> Alex, you're going to a Guido bar.
> 
> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Guido
> 
> Where I live, there's no room so gay bars are intermixed between
> cocktail clubs, straight bars and tapas bars.  

Ahem. Where he lives (Texas), hetero bars are 
having to offer their female customers drink
coasters that allow them to test for date rape
drugs:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/around-town/food-drink/Drink-Coasters-Can-Test-for-Date-Rape-Drugs-63822357.html

So in other words, Texans are so evolved that
the men can't get a woman unless they drug
them. No wonder Bill knows so much about the
gay scene.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: 2012 Movie Charlie Frost Blog

2009-10-12 Thread TurquoiseB


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Charlie Frost is a character in the upcoming movie "2012.
> He is played by Woody Harrelson and is a radio talk show 
> host.   To promote the movie they've created a Charlie 
> Frost Blog at http://thisistheend.com/
> 
> There are some videos there as well as on YouTube and I 
> watched a few OnDemand on Comcast in HD.  Enjoy!

OK, if you've seen the five-minute clip of
this movie that was posted earlier, you know
that to some extent it's tongue in cheek, and
making fun of the people who believe in this
2012 Doomsday stuff. And the character of 
Charlie Frost couldn't possibly be more of a
parody of the real-live versions of such
Doomsayers.

*However*, I cannot help but find it sad to
sae a movie company building an entire P.R. 
campaign on mass fear and superstition, and
worse in a way, trying to make a buck on it.

"Disaster movies" cater IMO to the inherent
sense of self-importance that human beings 
have about such things. Either "I am so impor-
tant that all these huge things are happening
during my lifetime," or "I am so important 
that because I'm so cool as to see them coming
(or "because I'm a Chrisschun...whatever") I
may survive the coming disaster."

It strikes me as not only pandering to a fear
of Doomsday but trying to increase the group
psychic power contributing to such a thing.
If you can get millions of people placing all
of their attention on some future disaster,
aren't you helping to bring it about?