[FairfieldLife] Swami Beyondananda

[anatol_zinc]

Swami Beyondananda: The Cosmic Comic, Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjOKVeApb4g




Swami Beyondananda The Upwising Begins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hz3FmOJIhM

[FairfieldLife] Buddha Boy Speech

[anatol_zinc]

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG54_bRp2CY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[anatol_zinc]

[FairfieldLife] uncomfortable meditations

[shukra69]

TM can make someone acutely aware of even very subtle imbalances in the nervous 
system. only someone who is meditating for sometime would usually be able to 
feel this. if otherwise ok according to the birth chart, even a very small 
diamond could help to remedy this if other simpler measures like following 
ayurvedic advice and asanas etc does not help. even .25 carats can be good, or 
equivalant uparatna if even that is not possible financially, empowered with 
the vedic gayathri for SHukra "annaat parisuto brahmanaa.." 
Otherwise a larger Yellow Sapphire is good for Ojas and having a vata 
pacifying"Guru" effect on the subtle body as well.

[FairfieldLife] The Buckin' Cult Of Personality (was Re: 1961)

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> >
> > Best of luck,
> > -Buck
> 
> Dear Buck,
> 
> Since we're talking the cult of personality and all, and because I'm as
> much of a cult personality fanboy as the next guy, I have to ask -- are
> you the same "Buck" as General "Buck" Turgidson in "Dr. Strangelove or:
> How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb?" If so, I'm a big fan.
> I always loved your dialogue in that film. Classic ancient Vedic wisdom.
> 

Turq, good eye. Yep. Classic & notice some more of this other similar dialoque 
back in FFL 240217.  That GCS certainly channels buck virtue when called on.  
Admirable when it is needed.  

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/240217

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints win!

[raunchydog]

Entertainment highlights:
Queen Latifa, sings "America the Beautiful" Oh Baby!

Carrie Underwood, American Idol sings "National Anthem" ho-hum.

The Who. WOW!

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/02/super-bowl-2010-carrie-underwood-queen-latifah-and-the-who-go-for-it.html

MVP Drew Brees, Saints quarterback video interview with Katie Couric. Very 
uplifting story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X20e6OEREjU

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > Sonofagun, they did it!
> > 
> > How *fabulous* for New Orleans. Party time!
> >
> 
> Booya!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints win!

[authfriend]

Ed Lavendera of CNN just did a live report from Bourbon
Street, shouting into the microphone while being mobbed
by hordes of people absolutely insane with joy. He
couldn't stop grinning. Wall to wall people on the 
street, laughing and crying and whooping. What a
beautiful sight.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > Sonofagun, they did it!
> > 
> > How *fabulous* for New Orleans. Party time!
> >
> 
> Booya!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saints win!

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> Sonofagun, they did it!
> 
> How *fabulous* for New Orleans. Party time!
>

Booya! 

[FairfieldLife] Saints win!

[authfriend]

Sonofagun, they did it!

How *fabulous* for New Orleans. Party time!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Bowl Ads

[lurkernomore20002000]

I understand.  We're not much of a sports watching family, but it's a little 
tradition for us.  We don't go to a party.  We watch it at home and have some 
bean/cheese/jalapeno dip.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> I never watch the "Stupor Bowl".  ;-)
> 
> raunchydog wrote:
> > The Who rocks the Super Bowl at Half Time. What a show! Vote for your 
> > favorite Ads after the show:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/adblitz
> >
> > Favorites:
> > Wear the Pants--Dockers
> > KGB
> > truTV
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Super Bowl Ads

[Bhairitu]

I never watch the "Stupor Bowl".  ;-)

raunchydog wrote:
> The Who rocks the Super Bowl at Half Time. What a show! Vote for your 
> favorite Ads after the show:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/adblitz
>
> Favorites:
> Wear the Pants--Dockers
> KGB
> truTV
>
>
>
>   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Bowl Ads

[lurkernomore20002000]

I'm liking that Audi pc/green commercial

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> The Who rocks the Super Bowl at Half Time. What a show! Vote for your 
> favorite Ads after the show:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/user/adblitz
> 
> Favorites:
> Wear the Pants--Dockers
> KGB
> truTV
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Bowl Ads

[lurkernomore20002000]

Oh yea.  That's nice. Just saw much of it.  Do you think that might have been 
to allay concerns that they were up to it.  Damn, it made me proud to watch 
them at half time.  I kind of feel that I showed up my kids and all the stuff 
they're into. Talkin bout my generation!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > The Who rocks the Super Bowl at Half Time. What a show! Vote for your 
> > favorite Ads after the show:
> 
> 
> I liked their acoustic press conference performance even more than their big 
> show:
> 
> http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/04/the-who-rock-the-halftime-show-news-conference/
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yc2u6xm
> 
> 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/adblitz
> > 
> > Favorites:
> > Wear the Pants--Dockers
> > KGB
> > truTV
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Bowl Ads

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> The Who rocks the Super Bowl at Half Time. What a show! Vote for your 
> favorite Ads after the show:


I liked their acoustic press conference performance even more than their big 
show:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/04/the-who-rock-the-halftime-show-news-conference/

http://tinyurl.com/yc2u6xm


> 
> http://www.youtube.com/user/adblitz
> 
> Favorites:
> Wear the Pants--Dockers
> KGB
> truTV
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Bowl Ads

[lurkernomore20002000]

I loved them.  Thought they did great.  My teenage kids really enjoyed them 
too.  I think the commercials have been very mediocre.  So far I've liked the 
flower delivery commercial best. FTD or whichever it was. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> The Who rocks the Super Bowl at Half Time. What a show! Vote for your 
> favorite Ads after the show:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/user/adblitz
> 
> Favorites:
> Wear the Pants--Dockers
> KGB
> truTV
>

[FairfieldLife] Super Bowl Ads

[raunchydog]

The Who rocks the Super Bowl at Half Time. What a show! Vote for your favorite 
Ads after the show:

http://www.youtube.com/user/adblitz

Favorites:
Wear the Pants--Dockers
KGB
truTV

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> The more interesting chart is the inner one because it shows relatively 
> little or no significant difference in cyclones and earthquakes.
> 
> Floods, of course, will only be of concern in populated areas...and populated 
> areas increased with the increase of world population.
> 
> Also interesting is the explanation for what is included in the definition of 
> disasters.  A lot of that stuff can be ascribed to other factors than global 
> temperatures.
> 
> Anyway, none of these figures have any meaning whatsoever because:
> 
> 1)it only goes back to 1900;
> 
> 2) we don't know the breakdown of all the disasters except for the ones in 
> the inner box; and
> 
> 3) no one trusts ANY figures anymore from the fraudulent pro-global warming 
> crowd.
> 
> Everything must be recalculated because all data is tainted.
> 


The evidence for AGW is undeniable on the basis of thousands of peer-reviewed 
research papers and simple human observation. 

Like I've suggested before, either you're a willfully blind supporter of the 
profiteer corporate polluters, you're stupid or you're trolling. My bet is that 
it's a little of all three.



> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is simple and basic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
> > > > > > consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather
> > > > > > fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
> > > > > > global temperatures continues upward.
> > > > >
> > > > > ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.
> > > > >
> > > > > It was all made up.
> > > >
> > > > He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
> > > > storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
> > > > in the post he was responding to.
> > > >
> > >
> > > That was one "extreme weather fluctuation".
> > >
> > > Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global
> > warming compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less
> > or about the same?
> > >
> > 
> > Global warming may be responsible in part for some trends in natural
> > disasters such as extreme weather
> >  .
> > 
> >   [File:Trends in natural disasters.jpg] 
> >  > sasters.jpg>
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trends_in_natural_disasters.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > Extreme weather includes weather  
> > phenomena that are at the extremes of the historical distribution,
> > especially severe or unseasonal weather
> >  .[1]
> > 
> > The World Meteorological Organization
> >  [2]
> >   and the U.S.
> > Environmental Protection Agency
> >  [3]
> >   have linked
> > increasing extreme weather events to global warming
> >  , as have Hoyos et al.
> > (2006), writing that the increasing number of category 4 and 5
> > hurricanes is directly linked to increasing temperatures.[4]
> > 
> > 
> > Similarly, Kerry Emmanuel in Nature writes that hurricane power
> > dissipation is highly correlated with temperature, reflecting global
> > warming  . Hurricane
> > modeling has produced similar results, finding that hurricanes,
> > simulated under warmer, high CO2 conditions, are more intense than under
> > present-day conditions.
> > 
> > Thomas Knutson   and Robert
> > E. Tuleya of the NOAA  greenhouse gas
> >   may lead to increasing
> > occurrence of highly destructive category-5 storms.[5]
> >   Vecchi and
> > Soden find that wind shear  ,
> > the increase of which acts to inhibit tropical cyclones
> >  , also changes in
> > model-projections of global warming. There are projected increases of
> > wind shear   in the tropical
> > Atlantic and Ea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[ShempMcGurk]

The more interesting chart is the inner one because it shows relatively little 
or no significant difference in cyclones and earthquakes.

Floods, of course, will only be of concern in populated areas...and populated 
areas increased with the increase of world population.

Also interesting is the explanation for what is included in the definition of 
disasters.  A lot of that stuff can be ascribed to other factors than global 
temperatures.

Anyway, none of these figures have any meaning whatsoever because:

1)it only goes back to 1900;

2) we don't know the breakdown of all the disasters except for the ones in the 
inner box; and

3) no one trusts ANY figures anymore from the fraudulent pro-global warming 
crowd.

Everything must be recalculated because all data is tainted.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This is simple and basic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
> > > > > consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather
> > > > > fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
> > > > > global temperatures continues upward.
> > > >
> > > > ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.
> > > >
> > > > It was all made up.
> > >
> > > He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
> > > storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
> > > in the post he was responding to.
> > >
> >
> > That was one "extreme weather fluctuation".
> >
> > Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global
> warming compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less
> or about the same?
> >
> 
> Global warming may be responsible in part for some trends in natural
> disasters such as extreme weather
>  .
> 
>   [File:Trends in natural disasters.jpg] 
>  sasters.jpg>
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trends_in_natural_disasters.jpg
> 
> 
> Extreme weather includes weather  
> phenomena that are at the extremes of the historical distribution,
> especially severe or unseasonal weather
>  .[1]
> 
> The World Meteorological Organization
>  [2]
>   and the U.S.
> Environmental Protection Agency
>  [3]
>   have linked
> increasing extreme weather events to global warming
>  , as have Hoyos et al.
> (2006), writing that the increasing number of category 4 and 5
> hurricanes is directly linked to increasing temperatures.[4]
> 
> 
> Similarly, Kerry Emmanuel in Nature writes that hurricane power
> dissipation is highly correlated with temperature, reflecting global
> warming  . Hurricane
> modeling has produced similar results, finding that hurricanes,
> simulated under warmer, high CO2 conditions, are more intense than under
> present-day conditions.
> 
> Thomas Knutson   and Robert
> E. Tuleya of the NOAA  greenhouse gas
>   may lead to increasing
> occurrence of highly destructive category-5 storms.[5]
>   Vecchi and
> Soden find that wind shear  ,
> the increase of which acts to inhibit tropical cyclones
>  , also changes in
> model-projections of global warming. There are projected increases of
> wind shear   in the tropical
> Atlantic and East Pacific associated with the deceleration of the Walker
> circulation  , as well
> as decreases of wind shear in the western and central Pacific.[6]
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather
> 
> Extreme Weather Fits Global Warming Pattern 
> Drought, Flooding, Heavy Storms May Become More Frequent and Extreme as
> Climate ChangesIt seems to make no sense: Record drought, right
> next to downpours. Just this week, for example, swaths of 

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

[FFL PostCount]

Fairfield Life Post Counter
===
Start Date (UTC): Sat Feb 06 00:00:00 2010
End Date (UTC): Sat Feb 13 00:00:00 2010
162 messages as of (UTC) Sun Feb 07 23:51:16 2010

18 curtisdeltablues 
14 WillyTex 
13 authfriend 
10 "do.rflex" 
 9 nablusoss1008 
 9 TurquoiseB 
 8 lurkernomore20002000 
 8 Rick Archer 
 8 It's just a ride 
 8 Buck 
 7 Vaj 
 6 ShempMcGurk 
 6 Sal Sunshine 
 5 metoostill 
 5 janosmelocco 
 5 John 
 5 BillyG 
 5 Bhairitu 
 3 cardemaister 
 2 Duveyoung 
 2 "jeff.evans60" 
 1 sgrayatlarge 
 1 jagg_pell_rf_129 
 1 guyfawkes91 
 1 wle...@aol.com
 1 Joe 
 1 "one.li...@ymail.com" 

Posters: 27
Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times
=
Daylight Saving Time (Summer):
US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM
Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM
Standard Time (Winter):
US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM
Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM
For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com 

[FairfieldLife] Chicago Bears, "Superbowl Shuffle"

[authfriend]

I guess this video from 1985 would be nostalgia for
most; I'd never seen it before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJNC3dgreaU

Pretty cool for its time.

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> > 
> > 2. it's an olfactory thing: basic TM technique makes
> > your body excrete some pheromone like stuff ("burning"
> > of kRSNa-karma??), that irritates other people.
> > 
> 
> Hey, Carde, I've never heard of this body excretion stuff you've mentioned.  
> What does it smell like to women?
>

Have no idea. That was just a wild thought, based on my recalling
the smell of roses, or stuff, of the skin of my forearm a couple of weeks after 
my Flying Block(?), when I was doing siddhis rather
regularly at home. 

Perhaps the features of that smell depend on what kind
of karma is "burning"... :D

Well, according to to Yoga-tattva-upanishad, or somesuch,
-- as I recall it -- the smell of a brahmacaari-yogi practizing
"yogic flying" becomes so "good" that it can make women wild! :0
(I actually saw something during my FB, that could be a "proof"
of that...)

[FairfieldLife] Some thoughts on the movie "500 Days of Summer."

[Bhairitu]

Turq recommended this movie last fall.  I rented it on Blu-Ray and 
watched it last night.  First let me tell you trying to watch it was a 
"trying" experience (warning tech rant ahead).  My 2+ year old Sony 
BDP-300 would not play it.  Those damn "loading bars" would get to a 
certain point and then a slide would come mentioning that the Blu-Ray 
uses the "latest" in Blu-Ray specs and you may need to upgrade the 
firmware to play the disk.  I tried two more times and even after 
cleaning the disk the same thing happened.  I updated the the player 
last fall with version 4.90 but now 5.20 is available so downloaded it 
and burned a CD to update the firmware.  Then sat for about 10 minutes 
as it update.  Then the disk played. 

Needless to say I am much annoyed with this process.  It is the result 
of a bunch non-technical studio heads believing that most of the public 
is stealing their movies so order that that the Blu-Ray codec be 
constantly updated to stay ahead of the pirates and thus requiring users 
to update their firmware.  My player is a first generation player and 
not 2.0 which have either ethernet or wifi for updates so hence the need 
for the CD.   But I'm a tech guy so what about the other 99% of the 
populace that isn't?  I wonder how many Netflix disks go back with a 
complaint that it wouldn't play?

The film was interesting though usually not my cup of tea.  I like 
Deschanel but wonder if she was the first choice as the part seemed to 
have been written for a younger actress.  I can imagine someone like 
Cristin Bell playing the part.  She actually seems to be older in the 
film than the male lead (she is actually 1 year older).  She also 
usually plays older parts in movies and TV (great in the second season 
of Weeds).  In Turq's original post on the film I mentioned that I would 
like to see here play a serial killer someday because she would be 
totally unsuspecting.  The "cold hearted woman" role got pretty close to 
that.

I also kept thinking that this film was taking place in New England not 
Los Angeles but it indeed was shot there.  Maybe the director is from 
New England or the writers (no info on that on IMDB).  I love films done 
in New England far more than in Los Angeles.  Sidney Lumet in his 
commentary on a recent film pointed out the difference in shooting on 
the East Coast as opposed to the west.  The difference is obvious.

The other funny thing is that I have been where the guy was.  One of my 
most serious relationships (lasted only ~70 days though) was like that.  
That woman actually was the one who got me interested in TM though she 
turned right around about a month after learning it and did a "kundalini 
intensive" which could either have been Muktananda or Swami Bhajan (both 
were doing those at the time).  I could have written that script.

On another tech side note, I'll be dumping the old Blu-Ray player for 
new one shortly that has ethernet/wifi.  I have ethernet up to the 
equipment rack for another player which also is getting funky and needs 
to be replaced.  The new player will replace both.  I mentioned before I 
couldn't do this without getting a new TV.  I got curious today about 
looking up the lifespan of my Pioneer HD RPTV.  Seems that it could last 
even another 5 years.   But what I learned from the AVSForum thread on 
not "throwing out your RPTV" was there is an HDMI converter coming 
available this month for $299.  My old Pioneer set does NOT have HDMI 
(many sets made before 2005 don't have HDMI).  So instead of getting a 
new set I'll just pick up one of these and if other folks are interested 
let you know how well it works.  Worth a try especially if it saves me 
up to $2000.

HDMI converter:
http://www.curtpalme.com/

[FairfieldLife] Re: ..Spirituality

[Buck]

> 
> And for guys like me who don't have issues with their practice 
>(because we don't have a practice) your subtext "Let it Be" works >fine.

= a sophist. Non-meditator.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is simple and basic.
> > > >
> > > > Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
> > > > consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather
> > > > fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
> > > > global temperatures continues upward.
> > >
> > > ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.
> > >
> > > It was all made up.
> >
> > He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
> > storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
> > in the post he was responding to.
> >
>
> That was one "extreme weather fluctuation".
>
> Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global
warming compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less
or about the same?
>

Global warming may be responsible in part for some trends in natural
disasters such as extreme weather
 .

  [File:Trends in natural disasters.jpg] 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trends_in_natural_disasters.jpg


Extreme weather includes weather  
phenomena that are at the extremes of the historical distribution,
especially severe or unseasonal weather
 .[1]

The World Meteorological Organization
 [2]
  and the U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency
 [3]
  have linked
increasing extreme weather events to global warming
 , as have Hoyos et al.
(2006), writing that the increasing number of category 4 and 5
hurricanes is directly linked to increasing temperatures.[4]


Similarly, Kerry Emmanuel in Nature writes that hurricane power
dissipation is highly correlated with temperature, reflecting global
warming  . Hurricane
modeling has produced similar results, finding that hurricanes,
simulated under warmer, high CO2 conditions, are more intense than under
present-day conditions.

Thomas Knutson   and Robert
E. Tuleya of the NOAA  greenhouse gas
  may lead to increasing
occurrence of highly destructive category-5 storms.[5]
  Vecchi and
Soden find that wind shear  ,
the increase of which acts to inhibit tropical cyclones
 , also changes in
model-projections of global warming. There are projected increases of
wind shear   in the tropical
Atlantic and East Pacific associated with the deceleration of the Walker
circulation  , as well
as decreases of wind shear in the western and central Pacific.[6]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather

Extreme Weather Fits Global Warming Pattern 
Drought, Flooding, Heavy Storms May Become More Frequent and Extreme as
Climate ChangesIt seems to make no sense: Record drought, right
next to downpours. Just this week, for example, swaths of Arizona have
been on fire and there have been flash floods in Texas.  [flood] 
(ABCNEWS.com)


But to scientists, it does make sense.



The simple reason is that the air is getting warmer, and warmer air
holds more moisture -- so when the warmer winds sweep across wet
farmlands, they suck up more moisture drying the farms out.



And when the winds finally dump that moisture out as rain, the downpours
are much heavier.



"Suddenly you've got a gully-washer," says Kevin Trenberth, a scientist
with the National Center for Atmospheric Research, part of a research
collaboration among universities. "You've got too much water. And then
at other times you've got drier conditions, potential for drought --
associated with global warming because of this increase of water vapor
in the atmosphere."



That can translate into more rain or more snow -- as was the case this
winter in the western mountains.



Normally, more snow is good news for farms and towns below the
mountains, because three-fourths of the West's water comes 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternate universes

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote

Lots of points to agree with.  Some of the differences I see between our POVs 
may be a matter of emphasis.  Here are some thoughts:

First the song.  Living Color gave a ton of interviews when the song came out.  
They were actually being that thoughtful with the song.  Of course every 
interviewer asked them about the odious comparisons in the song. It came out as 
I was leaving TM so it had my attention.

Snip
> 
> When you ask whether we "need" to create a cult of
> personality, what do you mean by "need"?

I think it is a human tendency that may go back to our primate alpha leader 
relationship past.  I think it is a tendency we need to keep an eye on. 

> 
> Just out of curiosity, when you're performing and
> getting all kinds of positive feedback, do you ever
> ask yourself whether there's a "cult of personality"
> element to the audience's response? Do you have any
> "groupies"? (If you do, I'm sure it would never occur
> to you to take advantage of them; that isn't what I'm
> asking.)

There is a aura effect that happens whenever someone gets in front of a group 
even to speak.  For some it may be because they can't imagine themselves doing 
it so they confer more credit that it deserves.  Fear of public speaking is 
really high on the list of fears.  Sometimes women will get all glowy about a 
performer.  If it happened on the scale of rock stars it would be really 
disruptive to a person's relationships.  At a lower level (mine) it seems 
obvious that it has very little to do with me as an individual.  So it is hard 
to take it too seriously.  But in any case it is a far cry from being viewed as 
a perfect enlightened human so if it is on the same continuum it is at the low 
end.
> 
> It seems to be something people *do*. Presumably if
> they didn't feel the need, they wouldn't do it. The
> issue is *why* they feel the need.

Agreed.  It is a matter of scale I think.  It is one thing to view Obama as a 
guy with some good ideas and another to believe he can do no wrong and 
shouldn't be watched like a hawk like any other politician.  

> 
> But look again at what MMY said: 
> 
> "...We know what Divine could be in man's life. Just
> fullness of divinity. That is all the strength I have
> *and that you should feel in yourself*" (emphasis
> added).
> 
> The point he was making is that if Guru Dev could have
> "fullness of divinity" in his life, if MMY could have
> it, you can too--"Humanity will be changed into
> divinity."

Here is where the hyperbole gets out of hand for me.  I don't think it is ever 
appropriate to invoke perfection when discussing people.

> 
> If, hypothetically, that were indeed possible (and you
> might want to substitute something like "Humanity will
> fulfill its potential" for "Humanity will be changed
> into divinity"), might that obviate the need for cults
> of personality? Isn't it a feeling of *lack* in oneself
> that leads one to worship someone unsuitable?

Well it seems pretty clear that this isn't one of the options in or out of the 
movement so it seems like a moot point.
> 
> It wouldn't necessarily mean that human beings become
> "perfect" in some relative sense, but rather fulfilled
> on their own terms, pros and cons and strengths and
> weaknesses and all, while recognizing the same 
> fulfillment in others--"I'm OK, you're OK."
> 
> (Or as a minister of my acquaintance once phrased it,
> "I'm not OK, you're not OK--and that's OK.")

I see much more wisdom and human understanding in your Minister friend's 
phrasing.  Perfectionist standards, no matter what the language have a negative 
effect on people IMO.  They are not just not useful, they hamper a person's 
ability to feel satisfaction with the ragtag way creativity in our lives 
happens.  I am against the concept of enlightenment as a goal.  (I understand 
that for a person who has a belief in the state of enlightenment, this POV is 
absurd!) And glorifying a person like Guru Dev whom we can't interact with 
turns him into something more than human.  Especially when the language used 
explicitly makes this case.  

> 
> Basically, what I'm seeing as so bizarre among both
> Tea Party-types and TM critic-types is the apparent
> inability to see anything but negatives in what they're
> criticizing. No shades of gray, no nuance. Anything
> that looks as though it *might* have a somewhat positive
> element must be reframed to eliminate that element.

I would agree that this quality in a person's thinking is bad.  Many posters 
here may be showing more of a polarity in opposition to other posters than they 
might feel if it was out of this context.  But I have no problem stating good 
things about TM or Maharishi.  If this is a reminder to be more "fair and 
balanced" I can accept that.  I have certainly shifted the balance a bit since 
posting here.  FFL has been a help in sorting out some of the gray areas for me.

> 
> I'm not into thinking of peop

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Taliban

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Obviously, certain gay behavior as well as certain heterosexual behavior 
> > > most definitely should be outlawed.
> > > 
> > > And we all know which activities I am referring to without having to go 
> > > into details.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > No "we" don't. What specific behavior would you outlaw, Mr Shremp?
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If you don't know which activities I refer to, Bongo, I strongly suggest you 
> go get an AIDS test, pronto.
> 


This is the kind of response that can typically be expected from a hateful 
homophobic bigot like the Shremp.



> 
> 
> > 
> > > All that stupid idiot Sprigg had to do after he answered "yes" to 
> > > Matthew's question was to add the six words: "SOME homosexual activities 
> > > should be outlawed"  and he would have had Matthews, the gay community 
> > > and everyone else watching agree with him.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Not sure how many of you caught 'Hardball' last night, but the 
> > > > Christian Right Family Research Council trotted out Peter Sprigg, 
> > > > another one of their odious spokesbots to rail against the repeal of 
> > > > DADT, and at the end of the piece, this little exchange happened:
> > > > 
> > > > -Matthews: Do you think we should outlaw gay behavior?
> > > > 
> > > > -Sprigg: Well, I think certainly..
> > > > 
> > > > -Matthews: I'm just asking, should we outlaw gay behavior?
> > > > 
> > > > -Sprigg: I think the Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v. Texas which 
> > > > overturned the sodomy laws in this country was wrongly decided. I think 
> > > > there would be a place in this country for criminal sanctions against 
> > > > homosexual behavior.
> > > > 
> > > > -Matthews: So we should outlaw gay behavior?
> > > > 
> > > > -Sprigg: YES!
> > > > 
> > > > Watch: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35206587#35206587
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > via: http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=33951
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > This is simple and basic. 
> > > 
> > > Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
> > > consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather 
> > > fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
> > > global temperatures continues upward.
> > 
> > ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.  
> > 
> > It was all made up.
> 
> He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
> storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
> in the post he was responding to.
>

That was one "extreme weather fluctuation".

Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global warming 
compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less or about the 
same?

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

[Buck]

> 
> Of course I am no help in any "spiritual" issues because I don't >share a 
> spiritual perspective. (not that there's anything wrong with >that!) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >

Well, for a lack of just not knowing (experience) that later is a large 
spiritual assumption on your part.
Though proly right on the first.

You're fun to read anyway.  Thanks.

-Buck

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

[John]

> 
> 2. it's an olfactory thing: basic TM technique makes
> your body excrete some pheromone like stuff ("burning"
> of kRSNa-karma??), that irritates other people.
> 

Hey, Carde, I've never heard of this body excretion stuff you've mentioned.  
What does it smell like to women?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > 
> > This is simple and basic. 
> > 
> > Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
> > consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather 
> > fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
> > global temperatures continues upward.
> 
> ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.  
> 
> It was all made up.

He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
in the post he was responding to.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader living in Paris with wife and 2 kids

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> "How many simply blocked it out of their
> awareness because they're friendly with Barry?"
> 
> I'm gunna take a wild guess who this was aimed at.  At
> least you know I'm reading your posts.
> 
> Of the 3 alternative options I can think of my favorite
> is that if you take off the "malicious Barry" glasses
> for a moment, and knowing his writing style, you might
> just conclude that Barry enjoys hyperbole and finds it
> entertaining to take an extreme perspective and watch
> people react to it.  I didn't think for a second that
> he meant it literally so I thought it was a funny
> exaggeration.

I should have used the phrase "rationalized it" instead
of "blocked it out of their awareness." Or "blocked the
malice out of their awareness."

You're missing the point and being naive. It's a
*propaganda technique* to use a loaded metaphor like
that. *Because* it's a metaphor, it can more easily
sneak through one's critical thinking filter and 
color one's emotional reaction.

And you quoted me out of context. I wasn't referring
just to that ugly metaphor but to all the distortions
in his characterization of John's post. (Note that he
didn't *quote* John's post, just included a link to
it. Again, how many are going to click the link to see
if his characterization fairly reflects what John
wrote?)

> Maybe he was tweaking John's ear a bit, I don't remember
> how they usually interact here.

When Barry says John is someone "who IMO represents
pure, unadulterated, On The Program 'TM thinking' more
than anyone else on this forum, even Nabby" (quoted in
my post), how can you be in any doubt that he was
demonizing John?

How about when he says (also quoted in my post) that
John's post was a "tribute to misogyny and hatred of
women" that is "pervasive" in the TM movement?

Did you notice that Barry's big objection to John's
post was that John suggested the guy's wife felt
left out--which was remarkably similar to what you
had said in the post John was responding to?

> You are starting with the premise of sinister intent
> and finding pieces to suggest that.

Barry's disquisition on John's post *started* with
pieces not just suggesting but *embodying* sinister
intent. I didn't have to look for them.

You think it's OK for Barry to slander people because
he finds it "entertaining." I don't. We've been over
this before and obviously we aren't going to agree.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternate universes

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> "the love inspired by a guru is no
> different from the mindless devotion of the German
> masses to Hitler;"
> 
> If this refers to me posting the "Cult of Personality"
> song in response to the Guru Dev is a divinity quote, you
> may have missed what I believe is the point of the song.
> 
> MMY quote from the original post:
> "We have seen his life, so we know what Divine could be
> in man's life. Just fullness of divinity. That is all the
> strength I have and that you should feel n yourself. Such
> great power, such great wisdom, such great bliss. That is
> something about Guru Dev."
> 
> So what problems do you suppose could arise from viewing
> a human being as a divinity?  Is this a tendency that
> humans have that we should keep an eye on?  Do the cases
> of relatively benign hero worship make us more susceptible
> to less benign examples?
> 
> Is there something wrong with viewing all people as just
> humans with pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses?  Do
> we ever need to create a cult of personality?
> 
> The song writer didn't answer these questions, he just got
> me to ask them.

Right. The song writer didn't *ask* them either, so
they weren't exactly "the point of the song." But
that aside...

When you ask whether we "need" to create a cult of
personality, what do you mean by "need"?

Just out of curiosity, when you're performing and
getting all kinds of positive feedback, do you ever
ask yourself whether there's a "cult of personality"
element to the audience's response? Do you have any
"groupies"? (If you do, I'm sure it would never occur
to you to take advantage of them; that isn't what I'm
asking.)

It seems to be something people *do*. Presumably if
they didn't feel the need, they wouldn't do it. The
issue is *why* they feel the need.

But look again at what MMY said: 

"...We know what Divine could be in man's life. Just
fullness of divinity. That is all the strength I have
*and that you should feel in yourself*" (emphasis
added).

The point he was making is that if Guru Dev could have
"fullness of divinity" in his life, if MMY could have
it, you can too--"Humanity will be changed into
divinity."

If, hypothetically, that were indeed possible (and you
might want to substitute something like "Humanity will
fulfill its potential" for "Humanity will be changed
into divinity"), might that obviate the need for cults
of personality? Isn't it a feeling of *lack* in oneself
that leads one to worship someone unsuitable?

It wouldn't necessarily mean that human beings become
"perfect" in some relative sense, but rather fulfilled
on their own terms, pros and cons and strengths and
weaknesses and all, while recognizing the same 
fulfillment in others--"I'm OK, you're OK."

(Or as a minister of my acquaintance once phrased it,
"I'm not OK, you're not OK--and that's OK.")

Basically, what I'm seeing as so bizarre among both
Tea Party-types and TM critic-types is the apparent
inability to see anything but negatives in what they're
criticizing. No shades of gray, no nuance. Anything
that looks as though it *might* have a somewhat positive
element must be reframed to eliminate that element.

I'm not into thinking of people as "divinities"--
not Jesus, not Guru Dev, not MMY. It makes me nuts
when folks capitalize the pronouns referring to such
people. But that doesn't lead me to summarily empty
the whole bathtub out the window.

I found MMY's "Except his grace, I don't have anything"
very moving. That isn't the way I look at it, but the
love that inspired him to say that is pretty impressive.
The *humility* is impressive.

Can you see any of this? It wouldn't require you to
drop your concerns about personality cults in general.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader living in Paris with wife and 2 kids

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
"How many simply blocked it out of their
awareness because they're friendly with Barry?"

I'm gunna take a wild guess who this was aimed at.  At least you know I'm 
reading your posts.

Of the 3 alternative options I can think of my favorite is that if you take off 
the "malicious Barry" glasses for a moment, and knowing his writing style, you 
might just conclude that Barry enjoys hyperbole and finds it entertaining to 
take an extreme perspective and watch people react to it.  I didn't think for a 
second that he meant it literally so I thought it was a funny exaggeration.  
Maybe he was tweaking John's ear a bit, I don't remember how they usually 
interact here. 

You are starting with the premise of sinister intent and finding pieces to 
suggest that.  I'm pretty familiar with that writing style.

As far as the shared tendency to exaggerate to provoke between Palin and Barry, 
I can see that.  But Barry is a much more entertaining writer.

Wait a second, I may have to take that back:

http://www.slate.com/id/2237261/




>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "metoostill"  
> wrote:
> > > I wonder was Tony:
> 
> > > 5. or...[please fill in as appropriate]
> > 
> > 6. It was along the lines that JohnR (who IMO repre-
> > sents pure, unadulterated, On The Program "TM thinking"
> > more than anyone else on this forum, even Nabby) said 
> > this morning in another context.
> 
> "In another context" = about a different couple,
> in an entirely different situation. John said
> nothing in the post Barry references about Tony
> and his wife.
> 
>  "Mrs. Nader" was just
> > playing some kind of "power game" with Tony, and trying
> > to be the center of attention. Instead of that "center
> > of his attention" being -- as we all know it should
> > be -- on meditation,
> 
> Actually, with regard to this other couple, it
> was Curtis who proposed to the husband that the
> wife may be more "sensitive to your disappearing
> for periods of time from her needs than anything
> to do with spiritual practices."
> 
> John concurred, saying, "She may be feeling left
> out in the cold." And he suggested they meditate
> together--even if she practices a different
> meditation technique--so she wouldn't feel 
> excluded. Not exactly "pure, unadulterated On the
> Program TM thinking."
> 
> Then John said, "AT WORST, she may playing a power
> game in that she wants to be the center of 
> attention in all of your activities" (emphasis
> added).
> 
> > He should have "taken out a contract" on her and had
> > certified Maharishi-brand pundits "perform a yagya" or
> > two on her,
> 
> "Taken out a contract" is Barry's phrase, not
> John's, the misleading quote marks notwithstanding.
> And John said the yagyas would be performed "for
> your family," not "on her."
> 
> > and then he wouldn't have had to worry about
> > the waste of time of having a relationship between equals
> 
> Actually, John's first suggestion was to "speak
> with her about this matter," the yagyas to come
> into play only if the problem could not be
> "resolved amicably"--in other words, as a last
> resort, not in order to *avoid* what Curtis
> called the need to "work this balance out, as
> most couples do."
> 
> 
> > 7. Tony and Maharishi really DID commission pundit hit
> > men to "take Mrs. Tony out,"
> 
> Again, "take [the wife] out" is Barry's phrase,
> despite the misleading quote marks.
> 
> **Barry wants readers to react to the idea of the
> man having a yagya done for his family in the 
> same way they would to the idea of his hiring a
> hit man to have his wife murdered.**
> 
> 
> > Seriously, though, how many here *did not even pause*
> > when reading JohnR's tribute to misogyny and hatred
> > of women in the earlier post? How many didn't even 
> > NOTICE it? That's how pervasive that attitude was in
> > the TM movement, and still is. Read it again, at:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/240690
> > and see what a TMer's view of "resolving family problems
> > amicably" is.
> 
> How many here who read this post of Barry's did
> not even click the link to read the post of 
> John's he references? How many who did failed to
> notice the extraordinary and malicious distortion
> of Barry's characterization of the post?
> 
> How many who *did* notice are afraid to point
> it out lest they become Barry's next target?
> 
> How many simply blocked it out of their 
> awareness because they're friendly with Barry?
> 
> > Chilling. JohnR clearly has *no earthly
> > idea* how insane his view of a relationship and how
> > one maintains one is.
> 
> John's "insane view of a relationship": The wife
> "may be feeling left out in the cold," and AT
> WORST "may be playing a power game." That view
> represents, to Barry, "misogyny and hatred of
> women."
> 
> I mean, the notion that a relationship may
> involve "power games

[FairfieldLife] Re: The American Taliban

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> >
> > Obviously, certain gay behavior as well as certain heterosexual behavior 
> > most definitely should be outlawed.
> > 
> > And we all know which activities I am referring to without having to go 
> > into details.
> > 
> 
> 
> No "we" don't. What specific behavior would you outlaw, Mr Shremp?
> 
> 




If you don't know which activities I refer to, Bongo, I strongly suggest you go 
get an AIDS test, pronto.






> 
> > All that stupid idiot Sprigg had to do after he answered "yes" to Matthew's 
> > question was to add the six words: "SOME homosexual activities should be 
> > outlawed"  and he would have had Matthews, the gay community and everyone 
> > else watching agree with him.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Not sure how many of you caught 'Hardball' last night, but the Christian 
> > > Right Family Research Council trotted out Peter Sprigg, another one of 
> > > their odious spokesbots to rail against the repeal of DADT, and at the 
> > > end of the piece, this little exchange happened:
> > > 
> > > -Matthews: Do you think we should outlaw gay behavior?
> > > 
> > > -Sprigg: Well, I think certainly..
> > > 
> > > -Matthews: I'm just asking, should we outlaw gay behavior?
> > > 
> > > -Sprigg: I think the Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v. Texas which 
> > > overturned the sodomy laws in this country was wrongly decided. I think 
> > > there would be a place in this country for criminal sanctions against 
> > > homosexual behavior.
> > > 
> > > -Matthews: So we should outlaw gay behavior?
> > > 
> > > -Sprigg: YES!
> > > 
> > > Watch: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35206587#35206587
> > > 
> > > 
> > > via: http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=33951
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> This is simple and basic. 
> 
> Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the consequences include the 
> abnormal and extreme weather fluctuations that we see as the trend of 
> increasing global temperatures continues upward.
> 
> 



...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.  

It was all made up.

Why are you such a denier?






> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > If you want to play the anecdotal evidence game, take a gander at the
> > following.
> > 
> > Look, Bongo, nobody believes the global warming propaganda anymore:
> > temperature statistics fudged, lying about Himalayan glaciers melting,
> > bullshitting about sea levels.  The phoney evidence has been exposed for
> > all to see.
> > 
> > You should be celebrating the fact that millions won't die, John. 
> > Instead you are miserable about it.
> > 
> > Why is that?
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
> > 
> > Storm WatchHistoric snowstorm winds down later today Chris
> > Dolce, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel  Feb. 6, 2010 12:05 pm ET
> > Snow, heavy in some locations, continues to fall from West Virginia and
> > southwest Pennsylvania eastward to the Mid-Atlantic Coast. Look for the
> > snow to wind down from west to east late this afternoon and early
> > evening putting the final touches on this historic event.
> > 
> > Widespread totals of a foot to over two feet have been reported in
> > portions of southern Pennsylvania, West Virginia, northern Virginia,
> > Maryland, Delaware, southern New Jersey and the District of Columbia.
> > Localized amounts have topped 30 inches.
> > 
> > As the low pushes off the coast it will continue to strengthen which
> > will result in very strong winds near and along the coast. Gusts of 40
> > to 50 miles per hour will be likely along the coasts from the Tidewater
> > of Virginia north to the Jersey shore.
> > 
> > Snow and gusty winds will contribute to low visibilities and
> > near-blizzard conditions in some areas.
> > 
> > The winds will also serve up high surf which will lead to beach erosion
> > and areas of coastal flooding from Atlantic City southward to the
> > Carolina coast.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader living in Paris with wife and 2 kids

[metoostill]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex"  wrote:
>
> me:
> > Hey it is Saturday night...
> >
> Couldn't get a date?
>

Married with children.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Wants to Fly

[ShempMcGurk]

I wonder whether the title "David wants to fly" is a play on the title of the 
Werner Herzog film "Little Dieter needs to fly" which is a 1997 document about 
Dieter Dengler who, born in Germany and who lived as a boy through WWII, joined 
the U.S. Air Force as a young man, went to Vietnam, and on one of his first 
missions was shot down over Laos.  He was taken prisoner of war and actually 
escaped.  The story was then made into the movie, also by Herzog, in 2006 
called "Rescue Dawn".

On another note: how much do you want to bet that the infamous "Invincibility 
for Germany" video will be front and center of this documentary?

Oh, and I do very much hope that the film wasn't finished before Lynch had a 
chance to sign that petition calling for the release of the child rapist, Roman 
Polanski. That would make a nice addition to the film...





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> From TMFree:
> 
> http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2010/02/david-wants-to-fly-opens-at-berlin-film.html
> 
> "David Wants to Fly" opens at Berlin Film Festival, a young filmmaker's 
> experience of David Lynch and Transcendental Meditation
> Posted by Gina at 2/07/2010 10:50:00 AM
> A few years ago, a young film maker met his creative idol, David Lynch. 
> The young filmmaker wished to absorb all that he could learn from his 
> creative guru.
> 
> Naturally, the young filmmaker was encouraged to learn Transcendental 
> Meditation. When the young man, David Sieveking, began questioning the 
> TM-Siddhi program, he was suddenly denied access to further TM information 
> and no longer had access to David Lynch. Sieveking thought, "There's a story 
> here!"
> 
> The documentary about Sieveking's global journey to learn about the TM 
> Movement opens this month at the prestigious Berlinale - the Berlin Film 
> Festival.
> 
> For our central European TMFree readers, the show schedule is :
> 
> 12 February, 2010 CineStar 7 17:00 Premiere 
> 
> 13 February, 2010 Cubix 7 17:30
> 
> 14 February, 2010 Colosseum 1 15:30
> 
> The online festival press release for "David Wants to Fly" can be readhere 
> (scroll down a tad).
> 
> We are not able to get away to attend the film opening. If any of our readers 
> attend the show, feel free to write a review for us to post. A European film 
> distributor will be distributing the film. We will inform you when a DVD is 
> available.
>

[FairfieldLife] Considering a new career [1 Attachment]

[It's just a ride]

-- 
Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?

Diversity.  It killed 13 at Fort Hood.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternate universes

[WillyTex]

Judy: 
> My reaction to the quotes in the story from Palin
> and members of her audience was *exactly the same*
> as my reaction to what I'd read of the latest posts
> from the TM critics on FFL right before I read the
> Times article...
> 
So, it's all about Curtis.

"If Maharishi or Guru Dev appear to you in any state, 
send them out for some beer and chips. Do not listen 
to anything they tell you if then don't come back 
with actual beer and chips..."

FairfieldLife/message/240688

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader living in Paris with wife and 2 kids

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "metoostill"  
wrote:
> > I wonder was Tony:

> > 5. or...[please fill in as appropriate]
> 
> 6. It was along the lines that JohnR (who IMO repre-
> sents pure, unadulterated, On The Program "TM thinking"
> more than anyone else on this forum, even Nabby) said 
> this morning in another context.

"In another context" = about a different couple,
in an entirely different situation. John said
nothing in the post Barry references about Tony
and his wife.

 "Mrs. Nader" was just
> playing some kind of "power game" with Tony, and trying
> to be the center of attention. Instead of that "center
> of his attention" being -- as we all know it should
> be -- on meditation,

Actually, with regard to this other couple, it
was Curtis who proposed to the husband that the
wife may be more "sensitive to your disappearing
for periods of time from her needs than anything
to do with spiritual practices."

John concurred, saying, "She may be feeling left
out in the cold." And he suggested they meditate
together--even if she practices a different
meditation technique--so she wouldn't feel 
excluded. Not exactly "pure, unadulterated On the
Program TM thinking."

Then John said, "AT WORST, she may playing a power
game in that she wants to be the center of 
attention in all of your activities" (emphasis
added).

> He should have "taken out a contract" on her and had
> certified Maharishi-brand pundits "perform a yagya" or
> two on her,

"Taken out a contract" is Barry's phrase, not
John's, the misleading quote marks notwithstanding.
And John said the yagyas would be performed "for
your family," not "on her."

> and then he wouldn't have had to worry about
> the waste of time of having a relationship between equals

Actually, John's first suggestion was to "speak
with her about this matter," the yagyas to come
into play only if the problem could not be
"resolved amicably"--in other words, as a last
resort, not in order to *avoid* what Curtis
called the need to "work this balance out, as
most couples do."


> 7. Tony and Maharishi really DID commission pundit hit
> men to "take Mrs. Tony out,"

Again, "take [the wife] out" is Barry's phrase,
despite the misleading quote marks.

**Barry wants readers to react to the idea of the
man having a yagya done for his family in the 
same way they would to the idea of his hiring a
hit man to have his wife murdered.**


> Seriously, though, how many here *did not even pause*
> when reading JohnR's tribute to misogyny and hatred
> of women in the earlier post? How many didn't even 
> NOTICE it? That's how pervasive that attitude was in
> the TM movement, and still is. Read it again, at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/240690
> and see what a TMer's view of "resolving family problems
> amicably" is.

How many here who read this post of Barry's did
not even click the link to read the post of 
John's he references? How many who did failed to
notice the extraordinary and malicious distortion
of Barry's characterization of the post?

How many who *did* notice are afraid to point
it out lest they become Barry's next target?

How many simply blocked it out of their 
awareness because they're friendly with Barry?

> Chilling. JohnR clearly has *no earthly
> idea* how insane his view of a relationship and how
> one maintains one is.

John's "insane view of a relationship": The wife
"may be feeling left out in the cold," and AT
WORST "may be playing a power game." That view
represents, to Barry, "misogyny and hatred of
women."

I mean, the notion that a relationship may
involve "power games" is really way out there,
isn't it? *Especially* if it's the woman who's
playing the game. Only an insane person could
propose such a thing.

> And this guy probably sells his
> services as a Jyotish "marriage consultant" to help
> other men who think the way he does find wives. 
> Chilling.

Barry sure does manage to manufacture chilling 
fantasies. The question is, does he have *any
earthly idea* that they're fantasies?

The same question occurs to many of us with
regard to, say, the chilling fantasies of Rush
Limbaugh or Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin.

Some of us suspect these figures *do* know they're
fantasies, constructed with the express purpose
of maliciously manipulating the thinking of their
fearful and credulous Tea Party audiences.

Barry's "take out a contract/take her out" trope
reminds me of nothing so strongly as the "death
panels/pull the plug on Grandma" notion first
proposed by Sarah Palin, referring to a provision
in an early version of the health reform bill that
would have reimbursed patients for a consultation
with their physicians about end-of-life issues.
The degrees of distortion and malice are quite
remarkably similar.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alternate universes

[curtisdeltablues]

"the love inspired by a guru is no
different from the mindless devotion of the German
masses to Hitler;"

If this refers to me posting the "Cult of Personality" song in response to the 
Guru Dev is a divinity quote, you may have missed what I believe is the point 
of the song.

MMY quote from the original post:
"We have seen his life, so we know what Divine could be in man's life. Just 
fullness of divinity. That is all the strength I have and that you should feel 
n yourself. Such great power, such great wisdom, such great bliss. That is 
something about Guru Dev."

So what problems do you suppose could arise from viewing a human being as a 
divinity?  Is this a tendency that humans have that we should keep an eye on?  
Do the cases of relatively benign hero worship make us more susceptible to less 
benign examples?

Is there something wrong with viewing all people as just humans with pros and 
cons, strengths and weaknesses?  Do we ever need to create a cult of 
personality?

The song writer didn't answer these questions, he just got me to ask them.






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> I have plenty of criticisms of Obama and the
> Democratic Congress, just as I do of MMY and the
> TMO.
> 
> But this morning, after I had read the story in the 
> NYTimes about the Tea Party convention in Nashville
> at which Sarah Palin gave the keynote speech, I
> suddenly realized something.
> 
> My reaction to the quotes in the story from Palin
> and members of her audience was *exactly the same*
> as my reaction to what I'd read of the latest posts
> from the TM critics on FFL right before I read the
> Times article.
> 
> It's the sense of looking in on an alternate
> universe, a sort of malign Disneyfied cartoon
> version of reality, replete with paranoia fueled
> by malicious propaganda from folks whose feelings
> of resentment and hatred have taken the place of
> rationality.
> 
> In the Tea Partiers' universe, the birth of Jesus
> is better documented than that of Obama; habeas
> corpus is to be accorded only to U.S. citizens,
> despite what the Constitution says that they hand
> out at every gathering; consulting one's physician
> about end-of-life issues is "pulling the plug on
> Grandma." And so on.
> 
> In the TM critics' universe, when a TMer responds
> to a request for advice by saying, "I don't have
> any answers for you," that's inane, insulting, and
> trivializing; the love inspired by a guru is no
> different from the mindless devotion of the German
> masses to Hitler; the attempt to bring harmony to a
> family via spiritual means is equivalent to a
> husband hiring a hit man to murder his wife. And
> so on.
> 
> The gulf between the universe I live in and the one
> these TM critics inhabit may be even greater than
> the gulf between my universe and that of the Tea
> Partiers and their leaders.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Sal Sunshine]

On Feb 7, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Vaj wrote:

> "David Wants to Fly" opens at Berlin Film Festival, a young filmmaker's 
> experience of David Lynch and Transcendental Meditation

Should be good--hope we get to see
it over here in the good old US.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

[WillyTex]

Vaj:
> Many people who were adversely effected by 
> TM and/or the TMSP...
>
So, you were adversely affected.

> ...have had great relief the kundalinicare 
> people. 
>
So, you're now considering getting help from
some 'kundalini' people. And you're going to 
take a bus trip all the way to Tennessee, and 
pay hundreds of dollars to get some more 
'snake oil'?

You've spent what, thousands of dollars and
most of your adult life in and out of cults,
and now you're thinking a 'Swami' in downtown
Knoxville will be able to help you get what,
a snake to go up your ass?

You're not serious, right?

http://kundalinicare.com/payment-newcomers.html

[FairfieldLife] RFK Jr. is a true global warming visionary

[sgrayatlarge]

Not!


RFK, Jr. 15 months ago: Global warming means no snow or cold in DC
By: David Freddoso
Online Opinion Editor
12/21/09 1:51 PM EST 
  

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who flies around on private planes so as to tell larger 
numbers of people how they must live their lives in order to save the planet, 
wrote a column last year on the lack of winter weather in Washington, D.C.

"In Virginia, the weather also has changed dramatically. Recently arrived 
residents in the northern suburbs, accustomed to today's anemic winters, might 
find it astonishing to learn that there were once ski runs on Ballantrae Hill 
in McLean, with a rope tow and local ski club. Snow is so scarce today that 
most Virginia children probably don't own a sled. But neighbors came to our 
home at Hickory Hill nearly every winter weekend to ride saucers and Flexible 
Flyers.

In those days, I recall my uncle, President Kennedy, standing erect as he rode 
a toboggan in his top coat, never faltering until he slid into the boxwood at 
the bottom of the hill. Once, my father, Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, brought a 
delegation of visiting Eskimos home from the Justice Department for lunch at 
our house. They spent the afternoon building a great igloo in the deep snow in 
our backyard. My brothers and sisters played in the structure for several weeks 
before it began to melt. On weekend afternoons, we commonly joined hundreds of 
Georgetown residents for ice skating on Washington's C&O Canal, which these 
days rarely freezes enough to safely skate.

Meanwhile, Exxon Mobil and its carbon cronies continue to pour money into think 
tanks whose purpose is to deceive the American public into believing that 
global warming is a fantasy."

Having shoveled my walk five times in the midst of this past weekend's extreme 
cold and blizzard, I think perhaps RFK, Jr. should leave weather analysis to 
the meteorologists instead of trying to attribute every global phenomenon to 
anthropogenic climate change.

[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Vaj]

>From TMFree:

http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2010/02/david-wants-to-fly-opens-at-berlin-film.html

"David Wants to Fly" opens at Berlin Film Festival, a young filmmaker's 
experience of David Lynch and Transcendental Meditation
Posted by Gina at 2/07/2010 10:50:00 AM
A few years ago, a young film maker met his creative idol, David Lynch. 
The young filmmaker wished to absorb all that he could learn from his creative 
guru.

Naturally, the young filmmaker was encouraged to learn Transcendental 
Meditation. When the young man, David Sieveking, began questioning the 
TM-Siddhi program, he was suddenly denied access to further TM information and 
no longer had access to David Lynch. Sieveking thought, "There's a story here!"

The documentary about Sieveking's global journey to learn about the TM Movement 
opens this month at the prestigious Berlinale - the Berlin Film Festival.

For our central European TMFree readers, the show schedule is :

12 February, 2010 CineStar 7 17:00 Premiere 

13 February, 2010 Cubix 7 17:30

14 February, 2010 Colosseum 1 15:30

The online festival press release for "David Wants to Fly" can be readhere 
(scroll down a tad).

We are not able to get away to attend the film opening. If any of our readers 
attend the show, feel free to write a review for us to post. A European film 
distributor will be distributing the film. We will inform you when a DVD is 
available.

[FairfieldLife] Alternate universes

[authfriend]

I have plenty of criticisms of Obama and the
Democratic Congress, just as I do of MMY and the
TMO.

But this morning, after I had read the story in the 
NYTimes about the Tea Party convention in Nashville
at which Sarah Palin gave the keynote speech, I
suddenly realized something.

My reaction to the quotes in the story from Palin
and members of her audience was *exactly the same*
as my reaction to what I'd read of the latest posts
from the TM critics on FFL right before I read the
Times article.

It's the sense of looking in on an alternate
universe, a sort of malign Disneyfied cartoon
version of reality, replete with paranoia fueled
by malicious propaganda from folks whose feelings
of resentment and hatred have taken the place of
rationality.

In the Tea Partiers' universe, the birth of Jesus
is better documented than that of Obama; habeas
corpus is to be accorded only to U.S. citizens,
despite what the Constitution says that they hand
out at every gathering; consulting one's physician
about end-of-life issues is "pulling the plug on
Grandma." And so on.

In the TM critics' universe, when a TMer responds
to a request for advice by saying, "I don't have
any answers for you," that's inane, insulting, and
trivializing; the love inspired by a guru is no
different from the mindless devotion of the German
masses to Hitler; the attempt to bring harmony to a
family via spiritual means is equivalent to a
husband hiring a hit man to murder his wife. And
so on.

The gulf between the universe I live in and the one
these TM critics inhabit may be even greater than
the gulf between my universe and that of the Tea
Partiers and their leaders.

[FairfieldLife] Re: On Knowing: A Confession

[WillyTex]

Turq:
> I hope that I keep wondering about stuff
> as long as there is an "I" to wonder... 
>
So, you're thinking there is a 'soul-monad' 
that reincarnates over time, but you don't 
even know who you are. 

If you don't know your 'self', how will you 
know your 'Self'? In a previous post, you 
claimed to know that the 'self' is the same 
thing as the 'Self'. 

Exactly, how did you 'know' that, Turq?  

> And afterwards, 
>
So, you're thinking that there is a 'after'
life.

> if creation is that cool.
>
And, you're thinking that the cosmos was  
'created' by a intelligent agent? 

It looks like someone got really mixed up at 
the local cafe today!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

[Vaj]

Many people who were adversely effected by TM and/or the TMSP have had great 
relief the kundalinicare.com people. The book Kundalini Vidya on their website 
is a must read for all long-term TMers.

On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:01 PM, janosmelocco wrote:

> 
> Another point: Curtis is also right. Perhaps TM teachers are not equipped to 
> solve this problem. I have asked a couple locally and basically did not get 
> any valuable answer. That is why I was going to solicit opinions and 
> experiences here. I also tried simple checking years ago. It worked while I 
> was in the room with the TM teacher. Then I went home and the same phenomenon 
> started as before.
> 
> I tried again yesterday after my posting then this morning. My experience was 
> OK, no forcing, very natural, it had a good feeling but nothing very special. 
> Mantram was flowing with extraordinariy speed, level of consiousness did not 
> change much. It would have qualified for an acceptable med years ago for me.
> 
> Came downstairs and found my wife really possessed. It took us hours of 
> talking and resting to get out if it. It is a non-cause, as if she were 
> thrown back into the past again. Similar to a bad case of PMS.
> 
> I do not blame her, I think there is some kind of attack or psychic vampirism 
> involved and she is sensitive to that.
> 
> Mybe I will contact Miss Neff after all... what she wrote seemed enough for 
> me first to lift weights. But back then I have not tried the technique again.
> 
> I even had a few spontaneous flashes of MMY appearing to me - all right, I 
> saluted him in my thoughts - just in case it is more than my imagination.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader living in Paris with wife and 2 kids

[WillyTex]

Turq:
> ...prancing around like an out-of-control drag 
> queen in robes and a crown, and doing all those 
> other oh-so MALE things any TM saint *should*
> be doing. 
> 
"Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds
discuss events. Small minds discuss people."
-- Eleanor Roosevelt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader living in Paris with wife and 2 kids

[WillyTex]

me:
> Hey it is Saturday night...
>
Couldn't get a date? 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Smoke the Bigots Out of the Closet

[It's just a ride]

On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:34 AM, do.rflex  wrote:

>
>
> Smoke the Bigots Out of the Closet
>
> By FRANK 
> RICH-
>  February 6, 2010
>
> *   A* funny thing happened after Adm. Mike Mullen called for gay men
> and lesbians to serve openly in the 
> military:
> A curious silence befell much of the right. If this were a Sherlock Holmes
> story, it would be the case of the attack dogs that did not bark.
>
>
My take on gays in the military:

I didn't serve in the military.  I was deferred. I have spoken with
thousands of guys who served in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam and Iraq.  It was
appropriate to have separate units for negros during WWI and WWII.  There
were farmboys from Iowa signing up or being drafted into the military who
had never seen a negro and were unfamiliar with such things as indoor
plumbing.

Even in Vietnam, it was inappropriate for gays to openly serve in the
military.  Testosterone and macho filled the air.  It's pretty funny to look
back at the Summer of Love time and realize that this was love between a man
and a woman.  Gays need not apply, not be seen, not be part of their scene.
Yup, the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius was redneck as Hell.

Mass media has infiltrated every part of the US.  The Iowa farmboy now
probably is sexting pictures of his package to girls in his class and has
probably posted some nude pix of himself on the Internet.  Gays are a known
entity.  It's pretty common now for guys to come out and even join gay clubs
in middle or high school these days.  There's still a lot of testosterone in
the military.  As the saying goes, only an 18 year old would jump out of a
perfectly good airplane.  I live in an area where there are a lot of
military camps.  I see the guys going to and coming back from Iraq.  Tattoo
city.  Often steroid/weight lifting city.  Testosterone or not, these guys
are hip.  They were their saggers, their broaders.  It's no longer an army
of recruited boys who came off of farms which were period pieces of 60 years
before.

Time for out gays in the military.  Of course a lot of gays will be
closeted.  It would disrupt too many marriages if many of the current career
officers came out.


-- 
Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?

Diversity.  It killed 13 at Fort Hood.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Smoke the Bigots Out of the Closet

[WillyTex]

Do:
> "...don't ask, don't tell." 
>
So, why would anyone feel a need to ask anyone
else if they are 'gay' or not, John? I already
told you I'm not gay.

Is that what you ask all of your friends - 'are 
you a homo'? 

You may get away with it on a news forum, where 
you can post anonymously, but in real life, you'd 
probably find yourself in a difficult situation. 

Take my advice, John, don't tell anyone! 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader living in Paris with wife and 2 kids

[WillyTex]

me:
> Anybody have a name for the Mrs... 
>
Mrs. Anthony Nader?

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

[WillyTex]

Curtis:
> You seem really sincere and in real distress.  
> Here are my two cents.
> 
> Your wife's issues have nothing to do with 
> your TM practice.  
>
You are not equipped to answer any questions 
about 'spiritual practice', Curtis. 

> It is more likely that she is sensitive to your 
> disappearing for periods of time from her needs 
> than anything to do with spiritual practices... 
>
And probably not equipped to say much about 
couples either, since you're obviously not even
married with children. Better stick to singing
the 'blues' - forget the 'spiritual teaching' -
you and Sally suck at it. My two cents.

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

[WillyTex]

> > According to Zen Master Suzuki, all you have 
> > to do is 'sit'. This 'just sitting' IS the 
> > enlightened state. All you have to do is 'be 
> > aware of being aware'. 
> > 
> > It's that simple.
> >
Nab:
> Let Suzuki sit thinking and imagine he is 
> enlightened, 
>
Just sitting IS the enlightened state.

Otherwise, why would the Masters continue to
meditate after reaching an enlightened state?

'Being aware of being aware' is the 'Direct 
Path' taught by the Ramana Maharshi.

> wasting his time as most "Buddhists" do. 
>
Maybe so. 

Don't just do something, sit there!
 
> In TM you go beyond.
>
There is only one Transcendent.

The practice of 'TM' is 'Buddhism', Nab. The
Maharishi was a Buddhist! The Buddha is the
first historical yogin - Shakya founded the
Enlightenment Tradition in India. All the 
Upanishad thinkers were transcendentalists
and all the of major Upanishads were composed
after the Buddha's Nirvana (483 BC).

[FairfieldLife] Smoke the Bigots Out of the Closet

[do.rflex]

Smoke the Bigots Out of the Closet
By FRANK RICH
  - February 6, 2010
A funny thing happened after Adm. Mike Mullen called for gay men
and lesbians to serve openly in the military
 : A
curious silence befell much of the right. If this were a Sherlock Holmes
story, it would be the case of the attack dogs that did not bark.

 
 [190]
Frank Rich
John McCain, commandeering the spotlight as usual, did fulminate against
the repeal  
of "don't ask, don't tell." But the press focus on
McCain, the crazy man in Washington's attic, was misleading. His
yapping was an exception, not the rule.
Many of his Republican colleagues said little or nothing. The
right's noise machine was on mute. The Fox News report on
Mullen's testimony was fair and balanced — and brief. The
network dropped the subject entirely in the Hannity-O'Reilly
hothouse of prime time that night.


Only ratings-desperate CNN gave a fleeting platform to the old
homophobic clichés. Michael O'Hanlon, an "expert" from
the Brookings Institution, speculated
  that "18-year-old, old-fashioned,
testosterone-laden" soldiers who are "tough guys" might
object to those practicing "alternative forms of lifestyle,"
which he apparently views as weak and testosterone-deficient.


His only prominent ally was the Family Research Council, which issued an
inevitable "action alert" demanding a stop to "the
sexualization of our military
 ."

The occasional outliers notwithstanding, why did such a hush greet
Mullen on Capitol Hill?


The answer begins with the simple fact that a large majority of voters
— between 61 percent
 
and 75 percent
  depending on the poll — now share his point of view.
Most Americans recognize that being gay is not a "lifestyle" but
an immutable identity, and that outlawing discrimination against gay
people who want to serve their country is, as the admiral said, "the
right thing to do."

Mullen's heartfelt, plain-spoken testimony
  gave
perfect expression to the nation's own slow but inexorable progress
on the issue. He said he had "served with homosexuals since
1968" and that his views had evolved "cumulatively" and
"personally" ever since. So it has gone for many other Americans
in all walks of life.


As more gay people have come out — a process that accelerated once
the modern gay rights movement emerged from the Stonewall riots of 1969
— so more heterosexuals have learned that they have gay relatives,
friends, neighbors, teachers and co-workers. It is hard to deny our own
fundamental rights to those we know, admire and love.

But that's not the whole explanation for the scant pushback in
Washington to Mullen and his partner in change, Defense Secretary Robert
Gates. There is also a potent political subtext.


To a degree unimaginable as recently as 2004 — when Karl Rove and
George W. Bush ran a national campaign exploiting fear of gay people
— there is now little political advantage to spewing homophobia.
Indeed, anti-gay animus is far more likely to repel voters than attract
them.


This equation was visibly eating at Orrin Hatch, the Republican senator
from Utah, as he vamped nervously with Andrea Mitchell of MSNBC last
week
 , trying to duck any discernible stand on
Mullen's testimony. On only one point was he crystal clear: "I
just plain do not believe in prejudice of any kind."

Now that explicit anti-gay animus is an albatross, those who oppose gay
civil rights are driven to invent ever loopier rationales for denying
those rights, whether in the military or in marriage. Hatch, for
instance, limply suggested to Mitchell that a repeal of "don't
ask" would lead to gay demands for "special rights."


Such arguments, both preposterous and disingenuous, are mere fig leaves
to disguise the phobia that can no longer dare speak its name. If gay
Americans are to be granted full equality, the flimsy rhetorical
camouflage must be stripped away to expose the prejudice that lies
beneath.

The arguments for preserving "don't ask" have long been
blatantly groundless.


McCain  —  who said in 2006 that he would favor repealing the law
 
if military leaders ever did — didn't even bother to offer a
logical expl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

[It's just a ride]

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:59 PM, John  wrote:

> Lastly, you may have to request a pandit to perform yagyas for your family
> to correct this problem, if it cannot be resolved amicably.
>
>
>
All problems are the result of bad vastu.  Get your house recitified to the
latest vastu thinking and you and yours will be healthy, wealthy, wise and
Enlightened.


-- 
Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?

Diversity.  It killed 13 at Fort Hood.

[FairfieldLife] If your spiritual path conflicts with your relationship...

[TurquoiseB]

...which wins...what do you do?

It seems to me that this is a topic worth discussing, since
basically this question is at the basis of several important
threads in recent weeks, not least of them the "Da King is
married with children" thang.

Clearly, within the TM movement there are many pondering this
same question by projecting them it onto their "king." A few 
will stop at a very quick, On The Program answer to the 
question -- "Your spiritual path, of course! You do what It 
calls you to do." -- and ponder no further.

More discerning seekers might have been pondering what *they*
would have done in a similar scenario. Which is a near-Hamletean
quandary: "Whether t'is nobler to swim against the tide of the
Holy Dogma, or go with the flow?" Especially when you consider 
that much of that Holy Dogma, for over 40 years, has consisted 
of convincing everyone that the spiritual path is the "highest 
path," and ALWAYS comes first.

Some exposed to that Holy Dogma for much of that 40 years might
even react to me bringing up theis question *as* a question as
if I had uttered heresy. "*Of course* it's 'Your spiritual path,
of course!'" How can you even *challenge* that?

Well, I'm challenging it.

Seems to me -- low-vibe slime non-TMer that I am -- that in a 
contest between having a relationship with another real, live
sentient being and having a relationship with an idea of some-
thing called "God" or "The Absolute" or "enlightenment," the
real-life relationship should win every time.

Then again, I'm a fan of that great wartime quote, "If I am
ever asked to betray either my friend or my country, I should
hope I have the guts to betray my country." Same thing, IMO.
In one case, you're talking about your relationship with a 
real, live human being winning, and in the other, you're talk-
ing about your relationship with an idea or belief system
winning.

How MANY stories we must have here on FFL, among those who
paid their dues in the TMO and/or other spiritual movements,
of this question coming into play, and couples or families 
having to deal with it. The decision to have kids rather 
than not. The decision to go with that lump in your pants 
that yearns for Suzie Creamcheese over there, or to go with 
that lump in your heart that tells you that being celibate 
is Way Better. The decision to spend money on the Next Big 
TM Course or your children's clothing. The decision to live 
in one town as opposed to another. The decision whether to 
continue to pay lip service to a belief system you no longer 
believe in but your spouse/lover/friend/brother/sister does?

This is a very HUMAN question. And IMO in all too many cases
it's not dealt with *as* a human question. It's dealt with 
by invoking the Holy Dogma as if it were a manual on How To
Play Poker. In poker there are "trump cards," and the trumps 
always...uh...trump. They win. Throw down two royal flushes,
and the one in spades always trumps the one in hearts.

In the Holy Dogma, "spades" is following the path of God. Or
enlightenment. Whatever. Spades automatically "win." God 
automatically "wins." "Hearts" is following the path of the
...uh...heart. It loses. 

Millions of human beings have so *bought into* the Holy Dogma
that they do not even challenge the rules of the poker game
that is their life. Me, I like challenging those rules. If
The Truth That We Shall Never Know About King Tony turns out
that he went for his heart instead of going for God, he gets
a big high-five from me for having done so.

But then I don't know shit, so there you jolly well are,
aren't you?

[FairfieldLife] Subjective/Objective - which is the trump card?

[TurquoiseB]

Continuing my pondering of "What trumps what?," given
threads in recent history I think the koan of whether
one's subjective experience vs. experience of objective
reality "wins" or *should* "win" is in order. But that's
just me, sitting in a sunny cafe in February knowing
absolute diddleysquat but rapping about it anyway. 
Rapeat emptor.

Some have held -- rather emphatically, in fact -- that
their subjective "knowing" or point of view or perception
on a given situation "wins," no matter what. Suffice it 
to say I do not swing that way. 

I hope that I *honor* my subjective experience by never
being afraid to express it, but I also hope that I don't
try to "extrapolate" from that subjective experience in
such a way as to declare it true, much less Truth. 

But many do. What's up with that, eh?

I'm thinking that we may be back to the Holy Dogma again.
The Holy Dogma stateth -- and in no uncertain terms -- 
that if you find yourself having "good experiences," 
those good experiences are not only true in a someday-
to-be-proved-by-science way, they define Truth not only 
for yourself, but for others.

I think you're getting the picture that I am not exactly
a big fan of the Holy Dogma. I hold *some* of it to be 
useful, *not a whole heckuva lot of it* to be true, and
absolutely *none* of it to be Truth.

"Gimme that old-time religion (subjectivity)?" No way.

"Gimme that old-time science/consensus reality (object-
ivity ONLY)? No way. 

"Gimme the fun of trying to juggle my subjective 
experience with objective consensus reality?"

Way.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader living in Paris with wife and 2 kids

[It's just a ride]

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 11:14 PM, metoostill  wrote:

> Anybody have a name for the Mrs. or an address yet?  Dying to know.  There
> were Popes in the middle ages who had children too, kept them in Vegas I
> think, you know, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
>

Are you referring to OJ Simpson?



-- 
Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?

Diversity.  It killed 13 at Fort Hood.

[FairfieldLife] On Knowing: A Confession

[TurquoiseB]

It's a warm, sunny, week-before-Carnavale Sunday in
Sitges, and I am taking advantage of it in one of the 
ways I love best, sitting in a beachside cafe watching 
the passersby and taking advantage of my new laptop's 
eight-hour battery life to rap about a few things.

The first, as seems fitting given some of the conver-
sation here recently, is a bit of a confession. Yes,
I'm going to -- as requested often -- "come clean" and
acknowledge my sins. Or at least one of them, which
seems around here to be a big one: I don't know.

So *many* folks here seem to feel that they *do* know,
and actually "know that they know," and about so much
stuff, that I've sometimes felt the need -- out of 
shame, you understand -- to hide this grievous sin from 
you. But no more. I'm coming out of the "I don't know" 
closet and confessing.

I don't know shit.

Wow. It felt good to get that off my chest. I feel like 
a new man, in an AA-meeting-Hi-my-name-is-Turq-and-I-
don't-know-shit kinda way. But interestingly enough, 
the first thing this new man feels after "coming out" 
as a non-knower is a sense of not only ease but *pride* 
in not knowing.

I don't know shit and I like it that way.

I mean, think of the opposite. How BORING would it
be to "know" stuff? Your sense of wonder about that
subject is OVER, man -- kaput, fini. How sad. 

Yeah, I guess you'd have that all-prevading sense of
my-shit-don't-stink-ness that knowers seem to have,
but -- and call me crazy for thinking this if you want 
-- my shit *does* stink and I can live with that. I 
don't know and I can live with that, too. In fact, 
I believe that not knowing is a Good Thing. It not 
only preserves my sense of wonder about life and
its mysteries, it facilitates it.

Personally, I hope that I *never* know stuff. I hope
that I keep wondering about stuff as long as there
is an "I" to wonder. And afterwards, if creation is
that cool. 

[FairfieldLife] The Buckin' Cult Of Personality (was Re: 1961)

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
 wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0
> >
> > The cult of personality.
>
> Dear Curt,
>
> Well, that certainly ain't no gandharva veda music. Kind of  the
opposite. To
> the anti-christ of cult music spiritually .   No wonder.
>
> Best of luck,
> -Buck

Dear Buck,

Since we're talking the cult of personality and all, and because I'm as
much of a cult personality fanboy as the next guy, I have to ask -- are
you the same "Buck" as General "Buck" Turgidson in "Dr. Strangelove or:
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb?" If so, I'm a big fan.
I always loved your dialogue in that film. Classic ancient Vedic wisdom.

Like this sequence, on how a real man gets out of bed with his mistress
and rushes off to play missile envy with the guys:
Miss Scott  : It's 3 o'clock in the
morning!
General "Buck" Turgidson  :
Weh-heh-heh-ll, the Air Force never sleeps.
Miss Scott  : Buck, honey, I'm not
sleepy either...
General "Buck" Turgidson  : I know
how it is, baby. Tell you what you do: you just start your countdown,
and old Bucky'll be back here before you can say "Blast off!"

Or this sequence, in which Buck displays truly Vedic calm when informing
the President that one of his fellow generals has pushed the big button:
General "Buck" Turgidson  : Mr.
President, about, uh, 35 minutes ago, General Jack Ripper, the
commanding general of, uh, Burpelson Air Force Base, issued an order to
the 34 B-52's of his Wing, which were airborne at the time as part of a
special exercise we were holding called Operation Drop-Kick. Now, it
appears that the order called for the planes to, uh, attack their
targets inside Russia. The, uh, planes are fully armed with nuclear
weapons with an average load of, um, 40 megatons each. Now, the central
display of Russia will indicate the position of the planes. The
triangles are their primary targets; the squares are their secondary
targets. The aircraft will begin penetrating Russian radar cover within,
uh, 25 minutes.
President Merkin Muffley  : General
Turgidson, I find this very difficult to understand. I was under the
impression that I was the only one in authority to order the use of
nuclear weapons.
General "Buck" Turgidson  : That's
right, sir, you are the only person authorized to do so. And although I,
uh, hate to judge before all the facts are in, it's beginning to look
like, uh, General Ripper exceeded his authority.
General "Buck" Turgidson  : General
Ripper called Strategic Air Command headquarters shortly after he issued
the go code. I have a portion of the transcript of that conversation if
you'd like me to to read it.
President Merkin Muffley  : Read
it!
General "Buck" Turgidson  : Ahem...
The Duty Officer asked General Ripper to confirm the fact that he *had*
issued the go code, and he said, uh, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their
way in, and no one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and
our way of life, I suggest you get the rest of SAC in after them.
Otherwise, we will be totally destroyed by Red retaliation. Uh, my boys
will give you the best kind of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure
as hell won't stop them now, uhuh. Uh, so let's get going, there's no
other choice. God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from
fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of our
natural... fluids. God bless you all" and he hung up.
[beat]
General "Buck" Turgidson  : Uh,
we're, still trying to figure out the meaning of that last phrase, sir.
President Merkin Muffley  : There's
nothing to figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a
psychotic.
General "Buck" Turgidson  :
We-he-ell, uh, I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir,
until all the facts are in.
President Merkin Muffley  : General
Turgidson! When you instituted the human reliability tests, you
*assured* me there was *no* possibility of such a thing *ever*
occurring!
General "Buck" Turgidson  : Well,
I, uh, don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of
a single slip-up, sir.

If that's really you, Buck, thanks for all the laughs and keep up the
good work.

Turq

[FairfieldLife] Re: 1961

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0
> 
> The cult of personality.
> 
>

Dear Curt,

Well, that certainly ain't no gandharva veda music.  Kind of the opposite. To 
the anti-christ of cult music spiritually .  No wonder.

Best of luck, 
-Buck

 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > "As a Shankaracharya he (Guru Dev) was found to have the great intellect of 
> > the first Shankacharya and the heart of Buddha - lovable, soft heart of 
> > Buddha and the great intellect of Shankara. That was his personality."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Those who have seen those days (around Guru Dev) have been so fortunate, 
> > and those who have seen me moving about in that atmosphere know how the 
> > grace of Guru Dev has dawned. And when they hear the story how it is 
> > happening, then they say, `Oh, it is no surprise, he has received the grace 
> > of Guru Dev`.   All but his grace and nothing else. Except his grace I 
> > don't have anything."
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> > "So, we are fortunate and all of you are very fortunate to have his (Guru 
> > Dev) grace so far from India. But the fortune is there, only we have to 
> > share our fortune with all our fellowmen. We have to do our utmost what we 
> > can to bring this meditation to all the people in all the ways it is 
> > possible for everyone of us."
> > 
> > 
> > "If I could have some real good cooperation of all the people who come in 
> > my contact, it would be something - the whole world will become so full 
> > with all sublime actions of human life.  Humanity will be changed into 
> > divinity.
> > 
> > We have seen his life, so we know what  Divine could be in man's life. Just 
> > fullness of divinity. That is all the strength I have and that you should 
> > feel in yourself. Such great power, such great wisdom, such great bliss. 
> > That is something about Guru Dev."
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: please advise me on technique - mantras, experiences

[cardemaister]

> 
> I am a practicing Indian astrologer BTW.
> 
> Let me recap what my question is about. Somehow, my basic meditation
> technique changed over the years, and since about 2001-2002 it has not
> been good at all - sometimes I felt it was downright unpleasant and
> destructive to my everyday life. While TM was the single greatest factor
> in stabilizing my life and making it colorful for over two decades,
> during the 21st century I gradually got to the point where I felt I
> should not do it at all â€" sidhi sutras are OK, other traditional
> (long japa) mantras are also good, but every time I did TM, someone in
> my family acted like literally possessed. I felt weird and nervous -
> usually I concluded it was just a wasting of my time.
> 

Two possibilities came to my mind:

1. somehow your body language may change after
meditating

and/or

2. it's an olfactory thing: basic TM technique makes
your body excrete some pheromone like stuff ("burning"
of kRSNa-karma??), that irritates other people.

Because I have a mild visual defect, I'm a slow reader;
thus, I have not read most of this thread, because
I'm not that interested in this topic. So, those
possibilities may have come up in other people's replies.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader living in Paris with wife and 2 kids

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "metoostill"  wrote:
>
> Anybody have a name for the Mrs. or an address yet? Dying to know.

Don't be silly. Raj Rajaswaris don't have names,
or deserve them. They are  women!

> There were Popes in the middle ages who had children too, kept 
> them in Vegas I think, you know, what happens in Vegas stays in 
> Vegas.  See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexually_active_popes

I once bribed a tour guide at the Papal Palace
at Avignon to take me on an after-hours secret
tour of the palace. He showed me the secret
passages by which the Pope got from his chambers
to those of his mistresses. Plural. Showed me the
torture chambers as well. Can't you just imagine
the conversation as the Pope says, "Not tonight,
honey...I've got to go down to the basement and
do God's work by supervising the torture of one
of the heretics. Priorities, you know."

> I wonder was Tony:
> 
> 1. Trying to quit, to ease himself out and away by letting 
> the TMO world know that he was just being kind to MMY when 
> MMY got attached to him as his physician, and played along 
> with that, sort of "OK yeah sure I'm worth my weight in 
> gold, now can we get back to your prescription Maharishi, 
> are you taking those meds for your blood pressure?"
> 
> 2. or was he just trying to come out of the closet because 
> he heard Obama say don't ask don't tell was passe and he 
> thought yes this has become a burden
> 
> 3. or was he looking to test his authority figuring "if 
> they buy this its off to the races, I will be able to say 
> anything" and he'll be back strong in another few weeks 
> and nobody can say no to anything he tries on if they 
> backed him on this one
> 
> 4. or did he realize that when somebody found him living 
> the non monastic life in the non-vastu housing it would not 
> go down well so he thought better get out in front of it, 
> classic damage control strategy
> 
> 5. or...[please fill in as appropriate]

6. It was along the lines that JohnR (who IMO repre-
sents pure, unadulterated, On The Program "TM thinking"
more than anyone else on this forum, even Nabby) said 
this morning in another context. "Mrs. Nader" was just
playing some kind of "power game" with Tony, and trying
to be the center of attention. Instead of that "center
of his attention" being -- as we all know it should
be -- on meditation, prancing around like an out-of-
control drag queen in robes and a crown, and doing all
those other oh-so MALE things any TM saint *should*
be doing. 

He should have "taken out a contract" on her and had
certified Maharishi-brand pundits "perform a yagya" or
two on her, and then he wouldn't have had to worry about
the waste of time of having a relationship between equals,
much less getting  married and having 
children. 

7. Tony and Maharishi really DID commission pundit hit
men to "take Mrs. Tony out," and it worked exactly as
well as any of the other yagyas they sell. That is,
not at all. So they did what the other sucker buyers
of such scamware do and merely imagined good results
while hiding the failure.

Seriously, though, how many here *did not even pause*
when reading JohnR's tribute to misogyny and hatred
of women in the earlier post? How many didn't even 
NOTICE it? That's how pervasive that attitude was in
the TM movement, and still is. Read it again, at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/240690
and see what a TMer's view of "resolving family problems
amicably" is. Chilling. JohnR clearly has *no earthly
idea* how insane his view of a relationship and how
one maintains one is. And this guy probably sells his
services as a Jyotish "marriage consultant" to help
other men who think the way he does find wives. 
Chilling.