[FairfieldLife] Roughnecks

[authfriend]

Roughnecks working on a drilling platform, about three minutes long.

I haven't the foggiest idea what they're doing, but starting around 1:00, it 
becomes almost like a ballet. They wrestle that heavy, ungainly equipment 
around with such grace, it's beautiful to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqLALzUft8Y

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

[FFL PostCount]

Fairfield Life Post Counter
===
Start Date (UTC): Sat Jun 19 00:00:00 2010
End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 26 00:00:00 2010
132 messages as of (UTC) Mon Jun 21 23:50:17 2010

12 Rick Archer 
11 nablusoss1008 
10 authfriend 
 8 John 
 7 yifuxero 
 7 WillyTex 
 7 Bhairitu 
 6 TurquoiseB 
 5 cardemaister 
 5 anatol_zinc 
 4 sgrayatlarge 
 4 seekliberation 
 4 Hugo 
 4 Duveyoung 
 4 Buck 
 3 brian64705 
 3 Yifu Xero 
 3 It's just a ride 
 3 "do.rflex" 
 2 uns_tressor 
 2 raunchydog 
 2 merlin 
 2 hugheshugo 
 2 emptybill 
 2 PaliGap 
 2 Mike Dixon 
 2 "martin.quickman" 
 1 wgm4u 
 1 shainm307 
 1 ditzyklanmail 
 1 Sal Sunshine 
 1 Dick Mays 
 1 Alex Stanley 

Posters: 33
Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times
=
Daylight Saving Time (Summer):
US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM
Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM
Standard Time (Winter):
US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM
Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM
For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com 

[FairfieldLife] Efrem Zimbalist Jr on dropping TM and going to Jesus

[do.rflex]

I ran across this video clip recently and it caught my attention because 
Charlie Lutes had mentioned that as a TMer, Efram Zimbalist Jr was a close 
friend of his and Helen's [Charlie's wife]. I remember Efrem Zimbalist had 
appeared on Johhny Carson's show promoting TM and Charlie was upset that Efrem 
smoked cigarrettes during the interview.

Efrem is currently in his 90's. He appeared in the following video to discuss 
Maharishi and his time with TM and his transition away from it. [The video is 
dated 2009, but I don't know if that's when it was recorded.]

In the clip Efrem mentions Maharishi and his teachings and a dear friend and 
his wife who encouraged his meditation and would meditate with him. I strongly 
suspect that dear friend and wife were Charlie and Helen Lutes.

It's an interesting clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGRjqLbWlY

[FairfieldLife] Kipling, quoted in Beck's book

[Yifu Xero]

By Kipling:

http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_copybook.htm


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: No more rabbinical blessings of my cars

[sgrayatlarge]

Now it's a true Hybrid or shall I say HyBris!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of It's just a ride
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:42 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] No more rabbinical blessings of my cars
>  
>   
> I took possession of my Camry Hybrid today.  The most remarkable thing about
> this Camry is the ride.  It's got special shocks and a continuously variable
> transmission.  The CVT makes the ride smooth as silk as their are no lurches
> forward since the transmission doesn't switch gears.  
> 
> I made one mistake after I took the Camry home.  I wanted it to have an
> appropriate blessing.  A Jewish friend of mine suggested that his rabbi
> would be optimal.  I fell for it.  The rabbi walked around the car chanting
> while he bowed up and down.  Then in a flash he pulled out a hacksaw and cut
> a few inches off the tail pipe.
> LOL!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

[sgrayatlarge]

So you aren't well informed about conservative thought? That's interesting.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> 
> Judy, any comments on this one? I get crap like this all the time from a
> conservative friend. Usually I'm working and don't have time to respond. If
> I did, I probably wouldn't come up with anything as well-informed as you
> would. Feel free to skip it, but if you feel inclined to write something,
> please do.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill
> 
> 
> By: Michael 
> Barone 
> Senior Political Analyst
> June 20, 2010 
> 
> 
> http://media.washingtonexaminer.com/images/250*157/w.obama.0620.jpg
>  
> 
> President Barack Obama waves as he exits Air Force One at Andrews Air Force
> Base, Md., on Friday. (Cliff Owen/AP) 
>  
>   
> Thuggery is unattractive. Ineffective thuggery even more so. Which may be
> one reason so many Americans have been reacting negatively to the response
> of Barack Obama and his administration to BP's Gulf oil spill.
> Take Interior Secretary Ken Salazar's remark that he would keep his "boot on
> the neck" of BP, which brings to mind George Orwell's definition of
> totalitarianism as "a boot stamping on a human face -- forever." Except that
> Salazar's boot hasn't gotten much in the way of results yet.
> Or consider Obama's undoubtedly carefully considered statement to Matt Lauer
> that he was consulting with experts "so I know whose ass to kick." Attacking
> others is a standard campaign tactic when you're in political trouble, and
> certainly BP, which appears to have taken unwise shortcuts in the Gulf, is
> an attractive target.
> But you don't always win arguments that way. The Obama White House gleefully
> took on Dick Cheney on the issue of terrorist interrogations. It turned out
> that more Americans agreed with Cheney's stand, despite his low poll
> numbers, than Obama's.
> Then there is Obama's decision to impose a six-month moratorium on deepwater
> oil drilling in the Gulf. This penalizes companies with better safety
> records than BP's and will result in many advanced drilling rigs being sent
> to offshore oil fields abroad.
> The justification offered was an Interior Department report supposedly "peer
> reviewed" by "experts identified by the National Academy of Engineering."
> But it turned out the drafts the experts saw didn't include any
> recommendation for a moratorium. Eight of the cited experts have said they
> oppose the moratorium as more economically devastating than the oil spill
> and "counterproductive" to safety.
> This was blatant dishonesty by the administration, on an Orwellian scale. In
> defense of a policy that has all the earmarks of mindless panic, that
> penalizes firms and individuals guilty of no wrongdoing and that will worsen
> rather than improve our energy situation. Ineffective thuggery.
> And what about the decision not to waive the Jones Act, which bars
> foreign-flag vessels from coming to the aid of the Gulf cleanup? The Bush
> administration promptly waived it after Katrina in 2005. The Obama
> administration hasn't and claims unconvincingly that, gee, there aren't
> really any foreign vessels that could help.
> The more plausible explanation is that this is a sop to the maritime unions,
> part of the union movement that gave Obama and other Democrats $400 million
> in the 2008 campaign cycle. It's the Chicago way: Dance with the girl that
> brung ya.
> Or the decision to deny Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's proposal to deploy
> barges to skim oil from the Gulf's surface. Can't do that until we see if
> they've got enough life preservers and fire equipment. That inspired blogger
> Rand Simberg to write a blog post he dated June 1, 1940: "The evacuation of
> British and French troops from the besieged French city of Dunkirk was
> halted today, over concerns that many of the private vessels that had been
> deployed for the task were unsafe for troop transport."
> Finally, the $20 billion escrow fund that Obama pried out of the BP treasury
> at the White House when he talked for the first time, 57 days after the rig
> exploded, with BP Chairman Tony Hayward. It's pleasing to think that those
> injured by BP will be paid off speedily, but House Republican Joe Barton had
> a point, though an impolitic one, when he called this a "shakedown."
> For there already are laws in place that insure that BP will be held
> responsible for damages and the company has said it will comply. So what we
> have is government transferring property from one party, an admittedly
> unattractive one, to others, not based on pre-existing laws but on decisions
> by one man, pay czar Kenneth Feinberg.
> Feinberg gets good reviews from everyone. But the Constitution does not
> command "no person . . . shall . . . be deprived of life, liberty or
> property, without due process of law except by the decision of a person as
> wise and capa

[FairfieldLife] Foods That Kill

[anatol_zinc]

Foods That Kill - Part 1 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG_tn3KAXNE


after five minutes of video see your cheeseburger in your blood stream

Rick, you may want Jim to see this.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Things Not Talked About

[WillyTex]

> If Willytex were to characterize my time 
> in Paris, it would be something like, "So 
> you walked around, sat in cafes, talked to 
> some people and watched others." And he'd 
> be right... 
>
So, you went to Paris again.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The sorry state of an grumpy old TMO-hater no longer "spongeworthy"

[Bhairitu]

nablusoss1008 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>   
>> nablusoss1008 wrote:
>> 
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 nablusoss1008 wrote:
 
 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
>   
>   
>   
>> To do a Willytex on this, "So you're saying that a
>> morbidly obese old man (with all that says about his
>> own personal level of happiness), trying to convince 
>> meditators that the TM organization has a future, 
>> could find no way to do so other than show photos
>> of the past and talk about it."  
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Day after day, year after year you denounce the TMO, yet you are going 
> nowhere and the TMO is expanding all over the world except for in the 
> West (which had it's divine opportunity). 
>
> You're on a dead-end-road in your "Buddhist" evangelism against the TMO, 
> and you're not getting any younger.
>
> Don't you have anything better to do ?
>   
>   
 Nabby, you are such a poster child for the TMO.  I bet Bevan would love 
 to have you as his right hand man.  Oh but you might have to hide the 
 Maitreya stuff.  :-D
 
 
>>> Do you think Bevanji is not fully aware of the true colours of all that 
>>> Maharishi produced, including "Heaven will walk on Earth" "In this 
>>> generation" ?
>>>
>>> If Maitryea is indeed amongst us (which He is), His Divinity Maharishi 
>>> Mahesh Yogi was very, very much involved in the process. As one of 
>>> Maharishis closest disciples, do you think this escaped Bevan ?
>>>
>>> No my friend, Bevan is infinately more informed than you can imagine.
>>>   
>> Really? 
>> 
>
> You're a nobody. 
> Bevan is on a fast track to Masterhood.

We're all nobodies including Bevan.  You obviously haven't figured 
things out yet.  Masterhood of what anyway?  Bet Bevan doesn't have a 
clue when it comes to mantra shastra.

[FairfieldLife] Eating can kill you !

[anatol_zinc]

Eating can kill you !

And it does, but not before it makes you suffer from all sort of
diseases from eating the wrong foods.

"More die in the United States of too much food than of too
little" —John Kenneth  Galbraith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wZendyXhU4


personally not familiar with this specific plant based diet referred to
in the video;

however, I have been a vegan for 39 years and for the last 9 years have
enjoyed the benefits of a plant based diet "Eat to Live" by Dr
Joel Fuhrman MD www.drfuhrman.com    who has
helped thousands reverse obesity, overweight, heart, diabetes,
allergies, arthritis, and many others, and helps to prevent cancer;
here's one of his patients with type-1 diabetes :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG-1otuCgF4


enjoy !

[FairfieldLife] Re: The sorry state of an grumpy old TMO-hater no longer "spongeworthy"

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >   
> >> nablusoss1008 wrote:
> >> 
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
>  To do a Willytex on this, "So you're saying that a
>  morbidly obese old man (with all that says about his
>  own personal level of happiness), trying to convince 
>  meditators that the TM organization has a future, 
>  could find no way to do so other than show photos
>  of the past and talk about it."  
>  
>  
> >>> Day after day, year after year you denounce the TMO, yet you are going 
> >>> nowhere and the TMO is expanding all over the world except for in the 
> >>> West (which had it's divine opportunity). 
> >>>
> >>> You're on a dead-end-road in your "Buddhist" evangelism against the TMO, 
> >>> and you're not getting any younger.
> >>>
> >>> Don't you have anything better to do ?
> >>>   
> >> Nabby, you are such a poster child for the TMO.  I bet Bevan would love 
> >> to have you as his right hand man.  Oh but you might have to hide the 
> >> Maitreya stuff.  :-D
> >> 
> >
> > Do you think Bevanji is not fully aware of the true colours of all that 
> > Maharishi produced, including "Heaven will walk on Earth" "In this 
> > generation" ?
> >
> > If Maitryea is indeed amongst us (which He is), His Divinity Maharishi 
> > Mahesh Yogi was very, very much involved in the process. As one of 
> > Maharishis closest disciples, do you think this escaped Bevan ?
> >
> > No my friend, Bevan is infinately more informed than you can imagine.
> 
> Really? 

You're a nobody. 
Bevan is on a fast track to Masterhood.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The sorry state of an grumpy old TMO-hater no longer "spongeworthy"

[Bhairitu]

nablusoss1008 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>   
>> nablusoss1008 wrote:
>> 
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 To do a Willytex on this, "So you're saying that a
 morbidly obese old man (with all that says about his
 own personal level of happiness), trying to convince 
 meditators that the TM organization has a future, 
 could find no way to do so other than show photos
 of the past and talk about it."  
 
 
>>> Day after day, year after year you denounce the TMO, yet you are going 
>>> nowhere and the TMO is expanding all over the world except for in the West 
>>> (which had it's divine opportunity). 
>>>
>>> You're on a dead-end-road in your "Buddhist" evangelism against the TMO, 
>>> and you're not getting any younger.
>>>
>>> Don't you have anything better to do ?
>>>   
>> Nabby, you are such a poster child for the TMO.  I bet Bevan would love 
>> to have you as his right hand man.  Oh but you might have to hide the 
>> Maitreya stuff.  :-D
>> 
>
> Do you think Bevanji is not fully aware of the true colours of all that 
> Maharishi produced, including "Heaven will walk on Earth" "In this 
> generation" ?
>
> If Maitryea is indeed amongst us (which He is), His Divinity Maharishi Mahesh 
> Yogi was very, very much involved in the process. As one of Maharishis 
> closest disciples, do you think this escaped Bevan ?
>
> No my friend, Bevan is infinately more informed than you can imagine.

Really?  My impression of him was that he was stooge that MMY could 
count on being a "yes man."  Seemed to be a rather naive guy to me.  Was 
he feeling sorry for himself to do this thing on Father's Day that could 
have been put off a week?

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Things Not Talked About

[Bhairitu]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> In my intro to the great AlterNet article I posted earlier, I termed
> this
> place and its ongoing focus "The World Inside My Head, And Why It's
> Better Than Yours." Having just come from Paris and having interacted
> with the French again, I don't think that is an unfair description of
> FFL.
>   

FFL has a rather weird demographic and that's why it may be a somewhat 
compelling place.  And I wouldn't expect ANY YahooGroup especially FFL 
to even begin to compare with Paris. ;-)

This is after all a "life after TM" group.  The majority aren't with 
"the program" anymore and moved on to other things with some 
"left-behinders" commenting from the peanut gallery.  It's also an open 
topic format or what would be a "General Topics" forum if there were 
such a thing as a TM forum BBS.

You can speak at a level here that on other groups or forums would have 
people think you're crazy because you've assumed some level of knowledge 
the general public doesn't have.  I mix with the public daily but find 
they're really not all that social and when you do mix unless you've 
stumbled across someone with a sophisticated background it is because 
you are discussing some areas they have some familiarity with.  Here 
people have a broader range of interests and expertise.   TM, yoga etc 
are an adjunct in life and something we are only engaged in for a few 
minutes to a couple hours a day and the rest of the having established 
ourselves "in yoga" are out "performing action."  Unless you want to 
specifically discuss yogic philosophy and there are plenty of forums 
that focus only on that this it's often more interesting to discuss 
other things.

Sometimes to go deep into those subjects such as music theory, computer 
programming, politics, the movie industry, you'll get deeper discussions 
for those on boards that specialize in those topics.  Here it is mostly 
light discussion to find what people with a common background think.  
I'm not that hard on FFL unless the topics go off on an nostalgia trend 
and I just skip those threads.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The sorry state of an grumpy old TMO-hater no longer "spongeworthy"

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> To do a Willytex on this, "So you're saying that a
> >> morbidly obese old man (with all that says about his
> >> own personal level of happiness), trying to convince 
> >> meditators that the TM organization has a future, 
> >> could find no way to do so other than show photos
> >> of the past and talk about it."  
> >> 
> >
> >
> > Day after day, year after year you denounce the TMO, yet you are going 
> > nowhere and the TMO is expanding all over the world except for in the West 
> > (which had it's divine opportunity). 
> >
> > You're on a dead-end-road in your "Buddhist" evangelism against the TMO, 
> > and you're not getting any younger.
> >
> > Don't you have anything better to do ?
> 
> Nabby, you are such a poster child for the TMO.  I bet Bevan would love 
> to have you as his right hand man.  Oh but you might have to hide the 
> Maitreya stuff.  :-D

Do you think Bevanji is not fully aware of the true colours of all that 
Maharishi produced, including "Heaven will walk on Earth" "In this generation" ?

If Maitryea is indeed amongst us (which He is), His Divinity Maharishi Mahesh 
Yogi was very, very much involved in the process. As one of Maharishis closest 
disciples, do you think this escaped Bevan ?

No my friend, Bevan is infinately more informed than you can imagine.

[FairfieldLife] Mother Earth Oil Spill Invocation

[anatol_zinc]

Mother Earth Oil Spill Invocation

Why not try prayer? Everything else is not working !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQoEmmi4q7A


Invocation For Mother Earth by Anrita Melchizedek
www.pleiadianlight.net. Music by Mike Hammer/Yahoel
www.michaelhammer.com Creative production by Adele Selina.

Invocation. I call upon the Company of Heaven,
Nature Intelligence and Mother Earth,
The Dolphins and Whales, and all Sea Beings of the Light,
To assist in calming the oceans of the this world,

To assist in stopping the "bleeding of Grandmother Earth",
To assist all the sea creatures who have experienced distress,
And to stabilize the Ocean beds of the Earth plane,
Primarily in the Gulf of Mexico.

I connect through the Unity Grid of Light,
The crystalline grid of Light within and around this earth plane,
To all the Light workers and Beings of Light along this grid.
I assist through the Flame of unconditional Love,
In creating a vortex of Light within and around this area.
I bring through the Pink Flame of Love,
The Violet Transmuting Flame of Forgiveness and transformation,
And the White Light of the Christed One.

I am the Heartbeat of this Earth,
One with Mother Earth,
One with all Life.
I trust and surrender to all that Is,
Knowing the difference that I make as part of this Collective of Light.

I Am Wisdom
I Am Light
And I Am Love.
I Am the magnificence of Creation through Service in Love,
Bringing about changes to this Earth plane,
For all Life to live in harmony, peace, abundance, Love and through the
Grace of Mother/Father God.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the ultimate BP Gulf disaster could kill millions

[Bhairitu]

hugheshugo wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>   
>> "If the huge methane bubble breaches the seabed, it will erupt with an 
>> explosive fury similar to that experienced during the eruption of Mt. Saint 
>> Helens in the Pacific Northwest. A gas gusher will surge upwards through 
>> miles of ancient sedimentary rock—layer after layer—past the oil reservoir. 
>> It will explode upwards propelled by 50 tons psi, burst through the cracks 
>> and fissures of the compromised sea floor, and rupture miles of ocean bottom 
>> with one titanic explosion.
>>
>> The burgeoning methane gas cloud will surface, killing everything it 
>> touches, and set off a supersonic tsunami with the wave traveling somewhere 
>> between 400 to 600 miles per hour.
>>
>> While the entire Gulf coastline is vulnerable, the state most exposed to the 
>> fury of a supersonic wave towering 100 feet or more is Florida. The Sunshine 
>> State only averages about 6 inches above sea level. A supersonic tsunami 
>> would literally sweep away everything from Miami to the panhandle in a 
>> matter of minutes. Loss of human life would be virtually instantaneous and 
>> measured in the millions. Of course the states of Texas, Louisiana, 
>> Mississippi, Alabama and  southern region of Georgia—a state with no Gulf 
>> coastline—would also experience tens of thousands, if not hundreds of 
>> thousands of casualties."
>> 
>
> And if a giant asteroid was to hit the north american continental
> plate at exactly the same time it would set off every earthquake
> fault line and volcano on earth, and the population of china gasping
> in shock at hearing the news would suck the earth's atmosphere away.
> Which would make the survivors fall over and tilt the earth's orbit into the 
> path of the sun. Jesus this could be bad.
>
>  
Or the Sun could belch a huge solar flare with unfortunate Earth in the 
way making us post toasties.





To subscribe, send a message to:
fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com

Or go to: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Shoot, stupid software helpfully deleted my careful
> spacing and made hash of what I was trying to show.
> 
> Try it with dots instead of spaces. Echoing Lauer, the
> voice goes down, then up:
> 
> ..KICK."
> "whose.to..
> ...ass.
> 
> Without reference to what Lauer said, the voice would
> have gone up, then down:
>  
> ...ASS..
> "whose.to...
> ..kick."

Nuts. Never mind! Forgot it wouldn't come out monospaced.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The sorry state of an grumpy old TMO-hater no longer "spongeworthy"

[Bhairitu]

nablusoss1008 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
>   
>> To do a Willytex on this, "So you're saying that a
>> morbidly obese old man (with all that says about his
>> own personal level of happiness), trying to convince 
>> meditators that the TM organization has a future, 
>> could find no way to do so other than show photos
>> of the past and talk about it."  
>> 
>
>
> Day after day, year after year you denounce the TMO, yet you are going 
> nowhere and the TMO is expanding all over the world except for in the West 
> (which had it's divine opportunity). 
>
> You're on a dead-end-road in your "Buddhist" evangelism against the TMO, and 
> you're not getting any younger.
>
> Don't you have anything better to do ?

Nabby, you are such a poster child for the TMO.  I bet Bevan would love 
to have you as his right hand man.  Oh but you might have to hide the 
Maitreya stuff.  :-D

[FairfieldLife] Beautiful Powerful Prayers for Living Waters

[anatol_zinc]

Beautiful Powerful Prayers for Living Waters


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKokDQCqeyg


Namaste. . . Please join and pray for healing our living waters.

1) Deva Premal - Om Asatoma,
2) White Eagle Medicine Woman - Global Prayer for Living Waters,
3) Jeff Wolpert - Skimming the Waves,
4) Cristine Mag Strasser - Om Shanti, Lokah Samasta,
5) Hoʻoponopono healing and cleansing prayer
6) Quotes by Amma, Amritanandamayi,

Hoʻoponopono (ho-o-pono-pono) is an ancient Hawaiian practice of
reconciliation and forgiveness.

om namah sivaya !

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:


Shoot, stupid software helpfully deleted my careful
spacing and made hash of what I was trying to show.

Try it with dots instead of spaces. Echoing Lauer, the
voice goes down, then up:

..KICK."
"whose.to..
...ass.

Without reference to what Lauer said, the voice would
have gone up, then down:
 
...ASS..
"whose.to...
..kick."

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Thanks Judy. That was great. I sent it to him.

And a whole lot of good it'll do, I'm sure!

RE: [FairfieldLife] No more rabbinical blessings of my cars

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of It's just a ride
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:42 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] No more rabbinical blessings of my cars
 
  
I took possession of my Camry Hybrid today.  The most remarkable thing about
this Camry is the ride.  It's got special shocks and a continuously variable
transmission.  The CVT makes the ride smooth as silk as their are no lurches
forward since the transmission doesn't switch gears.  

I made one mistake after I took the Camry home.  I wanted it to have an
appropriate blessing.  A Jewish friend of mine suggested that his rabbi
would be optimal.  I fell for it.  The rabbi walked around the car chanting
while he bowed up and down.  Then in a flash he pulled out a hacksaw and cut
a few inches off the tail pipe.
LOL!

[FairfieldLife] No more rabbinical blessings of my cars

[It's just a ride]

I took possession of my Camry Hybrid today.  The most remarkable thing about
this Camry is the ride.  It's got special shocks and a continuously variable
transmission.  The CVT makes the ride smooth as silk as their are no lurches
forward since the transmission doesn't switch gears.

I made one mistake after I took the Camry home.  I wanted it to have an
appropriate blessing.  A Jewish friend of mine suggested that his rabbi
would be optimal.  I fell for it.  The rabbi walked around the car chanting
while he bowed up and down.  Then in a flash he pulled out a hacksaw and cut
a few inches off the tail pipe.

-- 
"The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be
pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues."-- Liz
Taylor

[FairfieldLife] Ken Wilber on Trivedi

[Rick Archer]

http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/show/637
 
Next weekend's one-day retreat in Fairfield --
 
http://www.trivedifoundation.org/fairfield-retreat

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

[Rick Archer]

Thanks Judy. That was great. I sent it to him.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> 
> Judy, any comments on this one? I get crap like this all the
> time from a conservative friend. Usually I'm working and don't
> have time to respond. If I did, I probably wouldn't come up
> with anything as well-informed as you would. Feel free to
> skip it, but if you feel inclined to write something, please
> do.

I'll take a shot. I'm not wildly thrilled with how Obama
has handled this myself, but for somewhat different reasons.

All this should be seen in the light of constant complaints
from both left and right that Obama hasn't been "tough 
enough" on BP. Maybe the guy who wrote this wasn't one of
them, but if he was, it's a bit hypocritical for him now 
to dump on Obama for "thuggery."


> Take Interior Secretary Ken Salazar's remark that he would
> keep his "boot on the neck" of BP

I thought that turn of phrase was awful, myself.

> Or consider Obama's undoubtedly carefully considered statement
> to Matt Lauer that he was consulting with experts "so I know
> whose ass to kick."

NBC is responsible for misunderstandings about this remark.
They released a sound bite of Obama saying this, and it's
been endlessly repeated as though it were, as the writer 
says, "carefully considered."

But here's what Lauer had said that Obama was responding to:

"Critics are...saying..., this is not the time to meet with
experts and advisors. This is a time to spend more time in
the Gulf and — I never thought I'd say this to a President —
but kick some butt."

If you now listen to Obama's response, you'll see that he's
echoing Lauer's wording: He's having meetings with experts
and advisors so he knows whose ass to kick. You can hear
this very clearly in his vocal inflection when you know
what Lauer said:

  KICK."
"whose to 
   ass 

If he'd come up with the phrase on his own without
reference to what Lauer said, it would be:

   ASS
"whose to
  kick."


> Then there is Obama's decision to impose a six-month
> moratorium on deepwater oil drilling in the Gulf. This
> penalizes companies with better safety records than BP's
> and will result in many advanced drilling rigs being sent
> to offshore oil fields abroad.

This is a tough one; it's going to be very painful for those
who make their living from deepwater drilling.

But it isn't just a matter of safety records. Deepwater
drilling is inherently dangerous, and accidents can happen
even to those with excellent records. Part of the problem
is that the blowout preventers aren't fail-safe; part of
the problem is that safety requirements have not been
strictly imposed by the MMS. A good safety record may be
as much due to luck as anything else. The whole system
needs a major overhaul to minimize the risks.

Because the *consequences* of a blowout are just too dire.
At this point *nobody knows* how to plug a blown-out well
in deep water; nobody knows how to effectively clean up
the oil. There may not be a good way to do either.

Under Bush, MMS simply accepted oil companies' assurances
that if a spill were to occur, it could be handled
satisfactorily without serious damage to the environment.
The blowout preventers were cited as fail-safe mechanisms
to ensure a well could be sealed after a blowout with
minimal escape of oil. None of that was true; the oil
companies knew it, and MMS probably knew it too.

Unfortunately, Obama had so many things on his priority
list that reforming MMS wasn't near the top. Salazar
got rid of some of the worst of the corruption, but there
were all kinds of ineffiency and slackness and "regulatory
capture" that he didn't even make a start on.

> The justification offered was an Interior Department report
> supposedly "peer reviewed" by "experts identified by the
> National Academy of Engineering." But it turned out the
> drafts the experts saw didn't include any recommendation
> for a moratorium. Eight of the cited experts have said they
> oppose the moratorium as more economically devastating than
> the oil spill and "counterproductive" to safety.

Don't know the full story on this. I'm inclined to think
the administration tried to pull a fast one and got caught.


> And what about the decision not to waive the Jones Act,
> which bars foreign-flag vessels from coming to the aid of
> the Gulf cleanup? The Bush administration promptly waived
> it after Katrina in 2005. The Obama administration hasn't
> and claims unconvincingly that, gee, there aren't really
> any foreign vessels that could help.

Not true, almost certainly knowingly false. There are many
foreign vessels currently helping out. And the Jones Act 
doesn't *need* to be waived because it has to do with
vessels shipping commercial goods; it doesn't apply in
this situation.


> Or the decision to deny Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's
> proposal to deploy barges to skim oil from the Gulf's
> surface. Can't do that until we see if they've got enough
> life preservers and fire equipme

[FairfieldLife] Moby is cool

[merlin]

Moby is cool
by Gina Orange

TM.org - Transcendental Meditation Blog
USA    Translate This Article
20 June 2010

Gina Orange first became interested in celebrity recording artist Moby when she 
thought she saw him at an airport in Brazil; soon after, she started to read 
his blog. She writes: 

After slowly getting to know Moby through periodically reading his blog over 
time, I found out he was going to perform at the David Lynch Weekend at none 
other than my alma mater, Maharishi University of Management. It seemed a 
little out of the blue that he would be coming to this small town of 10,000 
residents, but sort of made sense, given his progressive-minded blog entries. 

I joined my family and we filed into the campus Recreation Center along with 
everyone else I knew. This was the same building where we once packed in with 
thousands of others to see Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. 

Moby brought cheers, gasps and unrestrained laughter as he delivered an 
original, long set, . . . as he indicated that although he was there simply 
because of his friendship with David Lynch, he also had some interest in 
learning the Transcendental Meditation (TM) technique. 

Fast-forward to April 3, 2009. I, along with several teachers of Transcendental 
Meditation, am sitting in a classroom at Weaver High School in Hartford, 
Connecticut, a school where the David Lynch Foundation has funded an in-school 
Quiet Time program, where all the students have the opportunity to learn to 
meditate. 

We are huddled around a yellowed, sluggish desktop computer, watching a 
streaming live press conference about the ''Change Begins Within'' benefit 
concert, which will be held the next evening. 

Dubbed ''The Beatles Reunion'', the benefit concert was generating a ton of 
international buzz, as Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Sheryl Crow, Jerry 
Seinfeld, Donovan, Russell Simmons, and other big names came together to show 
their support for the David Lynch Foundation. 

And along with these vocal celebrity TM advocates, up pops Moby. This time, in 
addition to his uncensored humor, he talks about how he loves his TM! 

The next evening I accompanied the Weaver High School Choir and sang backup to 
Moby, Laura Dawn and Bettye LaVette in the historic concert. Performing with 
Moby and his band of musicians was so much fun. Being in the midst of the 
reverberations from these world-class musicians was literally electrifying! 
Moby was genuinely friendly and appreciative of the contribution of the Weaver 
High School students, which left a warm impression with all of us. The students 
said they really felt like 'stars.' 

For days after the performance, I was on a cloud from this energizing 
experience. To get the chance to participate in such an amazing cause is 
something I'll always remember. The recording of the concert is slated for 
release hopefully soon, but for now you can see a couple of brief clips in a 
montage of concert highlights on DLF.TV. Whenever I see the clips, even for a 
brief moment, with a few bars of Moby's Natural Blues audible, the feeling of 
that magical night is as real as if it were happening now. 

Moby really created a magical moment, not just for all of us who were onstage 
with him and in the audience, but for a whole generation of kids who, thanks to 
the David Lynch Foundation, will get to learn a tool to manage their stress, 
improve their grades, and build a solid foundation for a happy life. Of all the 
many reasons why Moby is cool, that has to be one at the top. 

View the following link to see an interview in which David Lynch speaks with 
Moby about creativity: David and Moby. 

© Copyright 2010 Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation 

[FairfieldLife] Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

[Rick Archer]

Judy, any comments on this one? I get crap like this all the time from a
conservative friend. Usually I'm working and don't have time to respond. If
I did, I probably wouldn't come up with anything as well-informed as you
would. Feel free to skip it, but if you feel inclined to write something,
please do.


 


Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill


By: Michael 
Barone 
Senior Political Analyst
June 20, 2010 


http://media.washingtonexaminer.com/images/250*157/w.obama.0620.jpg
 

President Barack Obama waves as he exits Air Force One at Andrews Air Force
Base, Md., on Friday. (Cliff Owen/AP) 
 

Thuggery is unattractive. Ineffective thuggery even more so. Which may be
one reason so many Americans have been reacting negatively to the response
of Barack Obama and his administration to BP's Gulf oil spill.
Take Interior Secretary Ken Salazar's remark that he would keep his "boot on
the neck" of BP, which brings to mind George Orwell's definition of
totalitarianism as "a boot stamping on a human face -- forever." Except that
Salazar's boot hasn't gotten much in the way of results yet.
Or consider Obama's undoubtedly carefully considered statement to Matt Lauer
that he was consulting with experts "so I know whose ass to kick." Attacking
others is a standard campaign tactic when you're in political trouble, and
certainly BP, which appears to have taken unwise shortcuts in the Gulf, is
an attractive target.
But you don't always win arguments that way. The Obama White House gleefully
took on Dick Cheney on the issue of terrorist interrogations. It turned out
that more Americans agreed with Cheney's stand, despite his low poll
numbers, than Obama's.
Then there is Obama's decision to impose a six-month moratorium on deepwater
oil drilling in the Gulf. This penalizes companies with better safety
records than BP's and will result in many advanced drilling rigs being sent
to offshore oil fields abroad.
The justification offered was an Interior Department report supposedly "peer
reviewed" by "experts identified by the National Academy of Engineering."
But it turned out the drafts the experts saw didn't include any
recommendation for a moratorium. Eight of the cited experts have said they
oppose the moratorium as more economically devastating than the oil spill
and "counterproductive" to safety.
This was blatant dishonesty by the administration, on an Orwellian scale. In
defense of a policy that has all the earmarks of mindless panic, that
penalizes firms and individuals guilty of no wrongdoing and that will worsen
rather than improve our energy situation. Ineffective thuggery.
And what about the decision not to waive the Jones Act, which bars
foreign-flag vessels from coming to the aid of the Gulf cleanup? The Bush
administration promptly waived it after Katrina in 2005. The Obama
administration hasn't and claims unconvincingly that, gee, there aren't
really any foreign vessels that could help.
The more plausible explanation is that this is a sop to the maritime unions,
part of the union movement that gave Obama and other Democrats $400 million
in the 2008 campaign cycle. It's the Chicago way: Dance with the girl that
brung ya.
Or the decision to deny Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's proposal to deploy
barges to skim oil from the Gulf's surface. Can't do that until we see if
they've got enough life preservers and fire equipment. That inspired blogger
Rand Simberg to write a blog post he dated June 1, 1940: "The evacuation of
British and French troops from the besieged French city of Dunkirk was
halted today, over concerns that many of the private vessels that had been
deployed for the task were unsafe for troop transport."
Finally, the $20 billion escrow fund that Obama pried out of the BP treasury
at the White House when he talked for the first time, 57 days after the rig
exploded, with BP Chairman Tony Hayward. It's pleasing to think that those
injured by BP will be paid off speedily, but House Republican Joe Barton had
a point, though an impolitic one, when he called this a "shakedown."
For there already are laws in place that insure that BP will be held
responsible for damages and the company has said it will comply. So what we
have is government transferring property from one party, an admittedly
unattractive one, to others, not based on pre-existing laws but on decisions
by one man, pay czar Kenneth Feinberg.
Feinberg gets good reviews from everyone. But the Constitution does not
command "no person . . . shall . . . be deprived of life, liberty or
property, without due process of law except by the decision of a person as
wise and capable as Kenneth Feinberg." The Framers stopped at "due process
of law."
Obama doesn't. "If he sees any impropriety in politicians ordering
executives about, upstaging the courts and threatening confiscation, he has
not said so," write the editors of the Economist, who then suggest that
markets see Obama as "an 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alien Civilizations could be One Million Years Ahead of Earth

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Duveyoung
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 12:07 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alien Civilizations could be One Million Years
Ahead of Earth
 
  
What don't you understand about large numbers and inevitability?

"Regardless of the exact fraction of stars with planets, the total number of
exoplanets must be very large. Since our own Milky Way Galaxy has at least
100 billion stars, it must also contain hundreds of billions of planets if
not trillions of them."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exoplanets#Number_of_stars_with_planets

And that's just one galaxy's worth. Billions of galaxies. And don't forget
moons -- we have two moons in our own solar system that have "life friendly"
conditions. 

Yet you would rather believe that humanity is unique despite that
potentiality? Sounds like someone wants to be "special."

What's your deal? Seems to me you're pushing an atheist's agenda in that if
one speculates that intelligent life is a one-off, then any proposal that
there is a God is immediately attackable just on the sheer wastefulness of
God's creativity -- who'd want a God that made such an immensity for only "a
nice photograph?" 

Life everywhere is a gimme.
One argument that to me supports the abundance of life throughout the
universe is that it's so abundant here on earth, even in the most
inhospitable conditions. 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The sorry state of an grumpy old TMO-hater no longer "spongeworthy"

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > . . .
> > That's alright. Experiencing that which is smaller than the 
> > smallest and bigger that biggest at any given point is for 
> > sure not degrading the Turq's personal experiences, why 
> > should it ? 
> 
> I'm happy for you, if that sorta thing floats yer boat.

Except ofcourse, that you don't have a clue what it's all about. 

> 
> > That's why I have been avoiding that kind of discussions here on 
> > FFL; a personal experience is a personal experience and not 
> > anyone elses business. It's a personal fact, that's all.
> 
> It's a personal *claim*. It will never be a "fact" 
> except to you, subjectively, in your mind. 

Let's leave it at that for now. I do think differently about the future which 
is glorious.

> 
> > Turq, I don't mind you a bit but find it strange that you focus 
> > so much negative energy on a Movement that, wheter you like it 
> > or not, has a tremendous place in the history of mankind.
> 
> 
> 
> Me, I'm not important

We know.


Many here are interested in that which you disdain; the glory of transcendence 
one way or another.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_Dv8fQIx_8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPNajR8E5O4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsyNeRGUnY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sHc3PouCC0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPaetsf0arM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ6OvbwLvTA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB-ZAIj0NZo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CyxYurZOeI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKRRnGJPx0&feature=related


Sorry Turq, but by TM, and with the grace of Guru Dev, Jim Flanegin got 
thoroughly enlightened. 

We know that you dislike it to your bones but it is nevertheless a fact.


"It is said that the Buddha made 500 people enlightened. 
I think we will do better."


His Divine Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, full moon of May 
1982, in the presence of Purusha, The River Rhine, Germany

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alien Civilizations could be One Million Years Ahead of Earth

[Duveyoung]

What don't you understand about large numbers and inevitability?

"Regardless of the exact fraction of stars with planets, the total number of 
exoplanets must be very large. Since our own Milky Way Galaxy has at least 100 
billion stars, it must also contain hundreds of billions of planets if not 
trillions of them."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exoplanets#Number_of_stars_with_planets

And that's just one galaxy's worth.  Billions of galaxies.  And don't forget 
moons -- we have two moons in our own solar system that have "life friendly" 
conditions.  

Yet you would rather believe that humanity is unique despite that potentiality? 
 Sounds like someone wants to be "special."

What's your deal?  Seems to me you're pushing an atheist's agenda in that if 
one speculates that intelligent life is a one-off, then any proposal that there 
is a God is immediately attackable just on the sheer wastefulness of God's 
creativity -- who'd want a God that made such an immensity for only "a nice 
photograph?"  

Life everywhere is a gimme.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Amongst all the staggering coincidences and apparently 
> > > > > rare requirements that common organic molecules have to 
> > > > > go through in order to become complex life forms I forgot to
> > > > > mention that the trigger (for their always is one in leaps 
> > > > > of evolution) for life to go from the happy bacterial state 
> > > > > it was in for 3 billion years into it's post-cambrian 
> > > > > cornucopia is the fact that the Earth was frozen solid for 
> > > > > millions of years thus the only survivors were the bacteria 
> > > > > that mutated into the cell that make up *all* living things 
> > > > > today. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This isn't creationism, it's hard empirical science and is 
> > > > > easily checkable. 
> > > > 
> > > > I don't get this Hugo.
> > > > 
> > > > Are you saying that "snowball earth" was a pre-requisite for 
> > > > our planet's rich life-status? 
> > > 
> > > It might very well have been yes. On one side of the freeze
> > > you have just bacteria no the other you have everything we know
> > > today.
> > > 
> > > And that this is hard science? 
> > > > I did a quick-and-dirty wiki check and got the impression Life 
> > > > arose *despite* the conjectured snowball Earth, not 
> > > > *because* of it.
> > > 
> > > Can't believe everything you read on the internet I'm afraid.
> > > 
> > > I'm talking about the change from simple single-celled stuff
> > > before a major cataclysm to a stronger type of cell (that ALL
> > > life now shares) the improvements in cell structure may well
> > > have been forced on us by environmental pressure. Bit too
> > > much of a coincidence otherwise.
> > >  
> > > > The fact that one event precedes another event does not in 
> > > > itself make it a "trigger" does it?  Or have I misunderstood 
> > > > you?
> > > 
> > > Probably. In this case you'd have to prove that the freeze
> > > *wasn't* the trigger and come up with some other explanation 
> > > for the arrival of complex life when, for 3 billion years, 
> > > before a sudden massive change in climate there wasn't any.
> > 
> > And that's the "hard empirical science"? No mechanism (it seems)
> > and just a lack of other explanations? ;-) 
> 
> No mechanism, oh please!
>  
> > Actually, when you say this: "Bit too much of a coincidence
> > otherwise" - doesn't that really count against the more
> > general point you are trying to make? Viz. *Our* Life may
> > be just some highly improbable coincidence. After
> > all, if there is an *explanation* for turbo-boosted Cambrian
> > explosions, and the explanation is just this: That the biology
> > needs serious stress testing to fire it up... Then what you
> > need to show is that such stressing is rare and unusual around
> > the galaxy. Which is...unlikely? *Probably* not! if the only
> > explanation is a Gallic shrug and "coincidence!", then yes,
> > maybe so.
> > 
> > (By the way - who is it that is asserting this theory viz. 
> > "a snowball planet may be a necessary condition for complex
> >  life"? It's not a HugoFintlewoodLewix *special* is it?)
> 
> 
> Oh dear. The theory isn't that a world needs to go through
> a deep freeze in order for complex life to evolve. The thread
> is a response to the idea that complex, indeed conscious life
> is a given wherever organic molecules arise. I am just pointing
> out that there was a long path to the complexity seen on earth
> that may not have "just" happened as though it was inevitable,
> but the very fact that it took so long is a bit of a giveaway
> when the CE happened right after a serious bit of environme

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the ultimate BP Gulf disaster could kill millions

[Mike Dixon]

Palease You're scaring me!





From: hugheshugo 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 7:05:08 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the ultimate BP Gulf disaster could kill 
millions

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> "If the huge methane bubble breaches the seabed, it will erupt with an 
> explosive fury similar to that experienced during the eruption of Mt. Saint 
> Helens in the Pacific Northwest. A gas gusher will surge upwards through 
> miles of ancient sedimentary rock—layer after layer—past the oil reservoir. 
> It will explode upwards propelled by 50 tons psi, burst through the cracks 
> and fissures of the compromised sea floor, and rupture miles of ocean bottom 
> with one titanic explosion.
> 
> The burgeoning methane gas cloud will surface, killing everything it touches, 
> and set off a supersonic tsunami with the wave traveling somewhere between 
> 400 to 600 miles per hour.
> 
> While the entire Gulf coastline is vulnerable, the state most exposed to the 
> fury of a supersonic wave towering 100 feet or more is Florida. The Sunshine 
> State only averages about 6 inches above sea level. A supersonic tsunami 
> would literally sweep away everything from Miami to the panhandle in a matter 
> of minutes. Loss of human life would be virtually instantaneous and measured 
> in the millions. Of course the states of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, 
> Alabama and southern region of Georgia—a state with no Gulf coastline—would 
> also experience tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of 
> casualties."

And if a giant asteroid was to hit the north american continental
plate at exactly the same time it would set off every earthquake
fault line and volcano on earth, and the population of china gasping
in shock at hearing the news would suck the earth's atmosphere away.
Which would make the survivors fall over and tilt the earth's orbit into the 
path of the sun. Jesus this could be bad.

> http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/55689
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4hfGY6i75w&feature=player_embedded#
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMEr4FctWAM&feature=player_embedded#
>





  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alien Civilizations could be One Million Years Ahead of Earth

[Hugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Amongst all the staggering coincidences and apparently 
> > > > rare requirements that common organic molecules have to 
> > > > go through in order to become complex life forms I forgot to
> > > > mention that the trigger (for their always is one in leaps 
> > > > of evolution) for life to go from the happy bacterial state 
> > > > it was in for 3 billion years into it's post-cambrian 
> > > > cornucopia is the fact that the Earth was frozen solid for 
> > > > millions of years thus the only survivors were the bacteria 
> > > > that mutated into the cell that make up *all* living things 
> > > > today. 
> > > > 
> > > > This isn't creationism, it's hard empirical science and is 
> > > > easily checkable. 
> > > 
> > > I don't get this Hugo.
> > > 
> > > Are you saying that "snowball earth" was a pre-requisite for 
> > > our planet's rich life-status? 
> > 
> > It might very well have been yes. On one side of the freeze
> > you have just bacteria no the other you have everything we know
> > today.
> > 
> > And that this is hard science? 
> > > I did a quick-and-dirty wiki check and got the impression Life 
> > > arose *despite* the conjectured snowball Earth, not 
> > > *because* of it.
> > 
> > Can't believe everything you read on the internet I'm afraid.
> > 
> > I'm talking about the change from simple single-celled stuff
> > before a major cataclysm to a stronger type of cell (that ALL
> > life now shares) the improvements in cell structure may well
> > have been forced on us by environmental pressure. Bit too
> > much of a coincidence otherwise.
> >  
> > > The fact that one event precedes another event does not in 
> > > itself make it a "trigger" does it?  Or have I misunderstood 
> > > you?
> > 
> > Probably. In this case you'd have to prove that the freeze
> > *wasn't* the trigger and come up with some other explanation 
> > for the arrival of complex life when, for 3 billion years, 
> > before a sudden massive change in climate there wasn't any.
> 
> And that's the "hard empirical science"? No mechanism (it seems)
> and just a lack of other explanations? ;-) 

No mechanism, oh please!
 
> Actually, when you say this: "Bit too much of a coincidence
> otherwise" - doesn't that really count against the more
> general point you are trying to make? Viz. *Our* Life may
> be just some highly improbable coincidence. After
> all, if there is an *explanation* for turbo-boosted Cambrian
> explosions, and the explanation is just this: That the biology
> needs serious stress testing to fire it up... Then what you
> need to show is that such stressing is rare and unusual around
> the galaxy. Which is...unlikely? *Probably* not! if the only
> explanation is a Gallic shrug and "coincidence!", then yes,
> maybe so.
> 
> (By the way - who is it that is asserting this theory viz. 
> "a snowball planet may be a necessary condition for complex
>  life"? It's not a HugoFintlewoodLewix *special* is it?)


Oh dear. The theory isn't that a world needs to go through
a deep freeze in order for complex life to evolve. The thread
is a response to the idea that complex, indeed conscious life
is a given wherever organic molecules arise. I am just pointing
out that there was a long path to the complexity seen on earth
that may not have "just" happened as though it was inevitable,
but the very fact that it took so long is a bit of a giveaway
when the CE happened right after a serious bit of environmental pressure on the 
bacteria swimming around at the time.

On Earth, the snowball theory might be absolutely essential
to explain the cambrian explosion or it may not, if it isn't
why did life wait so long before diversifying so much? *That*
would be the coincidence. Or it may have come about because
of a different environmental pressure. Seems rather likely
though that because it took 3 billion years *then* an 
environmental catastrophe (as far as bacteria are concerned) 
before life got really interesting seems like a bit of a give-
away.

If complex life would have happened anyway, why not straight 
away? You have to look at it in the context of why species 
change anyway and that is because the world changes and they 
have to adapt. Could be predators, environmental change. 
Species drift genetically anyway but selection pressure makes
it happen fast. But without the joining of the two ancient
bacteria that give us the modern cell everything is based on
we wouldn't be here and that only happened after 3 billion 
years, question is: would it have happened without sufficient
pressure from the environment? Would we still all be happily
swimming in our primordial stew without the big snowball? 
Seems likely, 3 billion years is an awful long time

Do you e

[FairfieldLife] Re: The sorry state of an grumpy old TMO-hater no longer "spongeworthy"

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> . . .
> That's alright. Experiencing that which is smaller than the 
> smallest and bigger that biggest at any given point is for 
> sure not degrading the Turq's personal experiences, why 
> should it ? 

I'm happy for you, if that sorta thing floats yer boat.

> That's why I have been avoiding that kind of discussions here on 
> FFL; a personal experience is a personal experience and not 
> anyone elses business. It's a personal fact, that's all.

It's a personal *claim*. It will never be a "fact" 
except to you, subjectively, in your mind. 

> Turq, I don't mind you a bit but find it strange that you focus 
> so much negative energy on a Movement that, wheter you like it 
> or not, has a tremendous place in the history of mankind.

I honestly don't expect the TM movement to even be 
remembered in 20 years. YMMV, and that's OK, but I 
suspect that your assessment of its importance has
a lot to do with your assessment of your own. You
were associated with it, therefore it has to be
important...that sorta thing.

Me, I'm not important, and neither have been any 
of the spiritual groups I've ever been associated 
with. There is a certain freedom in that. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The sorry state of an grumpy old TMO-hater no longer "spongeworthy"

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > To do a Willytex on this, "So you're saying that a
> > > morbidly obese old man (with all that says about his
> > > own personal level of happiness), trying to convince 
> > > meditators that the TM organization has a future, 
> > > could find no way to do so other than show photos
> > > of the past and talk about it."  
> > 
> > Day after day, year after year you denounce the TMO, yet you are 
> > going nowhere and the TMO is expanding all over the world except 
> > for in the West (which had it's divine opportunity). 
> > 
> > You're on a dead-end-road in your "Buddhist" evangelism against 
> > the TMO, and you're not getting any younger.
> > 
> > Don't you have anything better to do ?
> 
> Nabby,
> 
> Just for fun I'm going to pretend you replied to my
> earlier "The Things Not Talked About" post and not
> this one. So in answer to your last sentence above,
> I'll turn it around on you -- don't *you* have any-
> thing better to do than what we see here on FFL?

That depends on the eye of the beholder.

> 
> Your schtick seems to be to post TM and Benjamin 
> Creme and UFO propaganda and call the folks who don't 
> find any of them as fascinating as you do names.

I named you the "Turqey" once, years ago. But you haven't forgotten. I find 
that intruiging and strange.

 I 
> can't remember you ever speaking much about your 
> life, in a way that convinced me you have one. 

And I don't expect you to do so. As you I am in love with the relative, I 
marvel at it's glory. I'm totally in love with what I see around me. I'm in 
love with life. And yes, I find walking around in Paris with a camera to be 
enhancing in a way that is almost as of speaking about, or trying to speak of, 
transcendental experiences.

> 
> You have spoken of at least one past girlfriend, as 
> if she was part of the distant past. You have spoken 
> of your past Purusha involvement, also distant past. 
> 
> What you never speak of is your present. 
> 
> Do you have one?

Certainly. I have a wonderful girlfriend whom I've known for a long time know, 
she is my life in many ways and I truly love and respect her. She is not a 
devotee of His Holiness by the way, but her wisdom is such that it encompasses 
all faiths, all religions and all non-beliefs. She is an atheist and soscialist 
by nature. 
I live a life in which the transcendance and relative is one big project: Life. 
For me they are both Love, they are both Divine. Your focus is on the latter. 
So be it.

> 
> If you don't mind, tell us about the most uplifting 
> and interesting spiritual experience you have had
> recently.

AnorAnoyan and MahatoAnoryan simultaneously. Carde will perhaps want to correct 
my spelling.

> 
> To put my request in perspective, from my point of
> view you are free to believe that the TM movement is 
> still moving; I am less convinced, that's all. Con-
> trary to what you claim I don't hate the TMO; I find 
> it an interesting failed socio-religious experiment, 
> and follow its exploits like soap opera because I 
> was once a minor character in the soap opera, and 
> am curious as to how it'll end. As I've told you 
> many times, I'm not even a Buddhist, much less a 
> Buddhist evangelist.

As for "going nowhere," and 
> being on a "dead-end road," I can see how you would 
> believe that because I have no one in my life I call 
> "guru" or "master" or even teacher, and some see 
> thinking for themselves as an indication of failure. 

That's fair enough, and with all I saw of Maharishi he would not disagree; in 
all my interactions with Him, He always encouraged independent thinking, 
couragous thinking within certain boundaries. Which, especially for many 
Western students was very challenging, if not impossible. 

This supreme Master challenged us in so many ways many will spend the rest of 
their lives digesting it. To be His student meant to file an application for 
Discipleship and eventually Masterhood. 

We have the Self, the supreme "Guru". The Guru in the flesh is, for many a 
tremendous help, but the Self is the Guru of Gurus. For everybody, believers 
and non-believers, for atheists and those bent on God. The Self is the same.


> 
> That said, if someone made the request of me I make
> of you above, at any point in the last ten years, I 
> wouldn't have to go back any further than a few days 
> to think of my most recent uplifting and interesting 
> spiritual experience.
> 
> If you have to go back to your days with Maharishi 
> to come up with yours, I'd suggest that the path you 
> and Bevan are on is possibly more reminiscent of a 
> dead end than mine.

That's alright. Experiencing that which is smaller than the smallest and bigger 
that biggest at any given point is for sure not degrading the Turq's personal 
experiences, why should it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alien Civilizations could be One Million Years Ahead of Earth

[PaliGap]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > Amongst all the staggering coincidences and apparently 
> > > rare requirements that common organic molecules have to 
> > > go through in order to become complex life forms I forgot to
> > > mention that the trigger (for their always is one in leaps 
> > > of evolution) for life to go from the happy bacterial state 
> > > it was in for 3 billion years into it's post-cambrian 
> > > cornucopia is the fact that the Earth was frozen solid for 
> > > millions of years thus the only survivors were the bacteria 
> > > that mutated into the cell that make up *all* living things 
> > > today. 
> > > 
> > > This isn't creationism, it's hard empirical science and is 
> > > easily checkable. 
> > 
> > I don't get this Hugo.
> > 
> > Are you saying that "snowball earth" was a pre-requisite for 
> > our planet's rich life-status? 
> 
> It might very well have been yes. On one side of the freeze
> you have just bacteria no the other you have everything we know
> today.
> 
> And that this is hard science? 
> > I did a quick-and-dirty wiki check and got the impression Life 
> > arose *despite* the conjectured snowball Earth, not 
> > *because* of it.
> 
> Can't believe everything you read on the internet I'm afraid.
> 
> I'm talking about the change from simple single-celled stuff
> before a major cataclysm to a stronger type of cell (that ALL
> life now shares) the improvements in cell structure may well
> have been forced on us by environmental pressure. Bit too
> much of a coincidence otherwise.
>  
> > The fact that one event precedes another event does not in 
> > itself make it a "trigger" does it?  Or have I misunderstood 
> > you?
> 
> Probably. In this case you'd have to prove that the freeze
> *wasn't* the trigger and come up with some other explanation 
> for the arrival of complex life when, for 3 billion years, 
> before a sudden massive change in climate there wasn't any.

And that's the "hard empirical science"? No mechanism (it seems)
and just a lack of other explanations? ;-) 

Actually, when you say this: "Bit too much of a coincidence
otherwise" - doesn't that really count against the more
general point you are trying to make? Viz. *Our* Life may
be just some highly improbable coincidence. After
all, if there is an *explanation* for turbo-boosted Cambrian
explosions, and the explanation is just this: That the biology
needs serious stress testing to fire it up... Then what you
need to show is that such stressing is rare and unusual around
the galaxy. Which is...unlikely? *Probably* not! if the only
explanation is a Gallic shrug and "coincidence!", then yes,
maybe so.

(By the way - who is it that is asserting this theory viz. 
"a snowball planet may be a necessary condition for complex
 life"? It's not a HugoFintlewoodLewix *special* is it?)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alien Civilizations could be One Million Years Ahead of Earth

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
> >
> > The fact that one event precedes another event does not in 
> > itself make it a "trigger" does it?  Or have I misunderstood 
> > you?
> 
> Probably. In this case you'd have to prove that the freeze
> *wasn't* the trigger and come up with some other explanation 
> for the arrival of complex life when, for 3 billion years, 
> before a sudden massive change in climate there wasn't any.

I'm fond of the Pleiadean Santa Explanation, in which
giant verginas from the Pleiades arrived here to sow
the seeds of life. They came dressed as Santa Claus
(because let's face it...even one-celled organisms get
a little put off by giant verginas from space) and 
flew around distributing bags of DNA to good little
bacteria. Either that or the God Explanation. Can't
have things happening because they just happen.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alien Civilizations could be One Million Years Ahead of Earth

[hugheshugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Amongst all the staggering coincidences and apparently 
> > rare requirements that common organic molecules have to 
> > go through in order to become complex life forms I forgot to
> > mention that the trigger (for their always is one in leaps 
> > of evolution) for life to go from the happy bacterial state 
> > it was in for 3 billion years into it's post-cambrian 
> > cornucopia is the fact that the Earth was frozen solid for 
> > millions of years thus the only survivors were the bacteria 
> > that mutated into the cell that make up *all* living things 
> > today. 
> > 
> > This isn't creationism, it's hard empirical science and is 
> > easily checkable. 
> 
> I don't get this Hugo.
> 
> Are you saying that "snowball earth" was a pre-requisite for 
> our planet's rich life-status? 

It might very well have been yes. On one side of the freeze
you have just bacteria no the other you have everything we know
today.



And that this is hard science? 
> I did a quick-and-dirty wiki check and got the impression Life 
> arose *despite* the conjectured snowball Earth, not 
> *because* of it.

Can't believe everything you read on the internet I'm afraid.

I'm talking about the change from simple single-celled stuff
before a major cataclysm to a stronger type of cell (that ALL
life now shares) the improvements in cell structure may well
have been forced on us by environmental pressure. Bit too
much of a coincidence otherwise.


 
> The fact that one event precedes another event does not in 
> itself make it a "trigger" does it?  Or have I misunderstood 
> you?

Probably. In this case you'd have to prove that the freeze
*wasn't* the trigger and come up with some other explanation 
for the arrival of complex life when, for 3 billion years, 
before a sudden massive change in climate there wasn't any.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How the ultimate BP Gulf disaster could kill millions

[authfriend]

P.S.: Another good source of basic info is the emails
sent out by the response team. You can sign up here:

http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/mailinglist/2931/

You'll get a *lot* of emails--as many as a dozen a day--but
most of them aren't that useful; you can tell from the
subject headings and delete them without reading them.

But they send transcripts of press briefings, which include
Q&As with the journalists who attend, and those can be very
useful since they're on a layperson's level. They also send
out a good summary of what's been going on once a day.

There's some pro-gummint hype mixed in, but it's fairly
obvious and easy to discount if you've been reading the
news reports.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Judy. It's impressive how well-informed you've become
> > on this topic.
> 
> Rick, I'm really just barely informed on the most minimal
> basics. OTOH, it isn't that difficult for a layperson to
> become as informed as I am.
> 
> All I've been doing is hanging out at TheOilDrum.com and
> reading the discussions there among knowledgeable oil
> industry folks. Or rather skimming them--because most of
> the discussion goes way over my head, it's so technical.
> 
> Even just the material in the New York Times, and/or the
> Times Picayune (of New Orleans--at nola.com) and some of
> the excellent articles in the Wall Street Journal will
> give you most of the basics, enough to recognize a tall
> tale when you see one.
> 
> (You *aren't* likely to get a clear picture even on this
> basic level from TV, though, either broadcast or cable.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alien Civilizations could be One Million Years Ahead of Earth

[PaliGap]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" 
 wrote:

> Amongst all the staggering coincidences and apparently 
> rare requirements that common organic molecules have to 
> go through in order to become complex life forms I forgot to
> mention that the trigger (for their always is one in leaps 
> of evolution) for life to go from the happy bacterial state 
> it was in for 3 billion years into it's post-cambrian 
> cornucopia is the fact that the Earth was frozen solid for 
> millions of years thus the only survivors were the bacteria 
> that mutated into the cell that make up *all* living things 
> today. 
> 
> This isn't creationism, it's hard empirical science and is 
> easily checkable. 

I don't get this Hugo.

Are you saying that "snowball earth" was a pre-requisite for 
our planet's rich life-status? And that this is hard science? 
I did a quick-and-dirty wiki check and got the impression Life 
arose *despite* the conjectured snowball Earth, not 
*because* of it.

The fact that one event precedes another event does not in 
itself make it a "trigger" does it?  Or have I misunderstood 
you?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Things Not Talked About

[authfriend]

For a whole week, Barry had to restrain himself from
dumping on people. You can sense his relief at finally
being able to assuage his withdrawal symptoms now that
he's back.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> Getting out of one's normal environment and dropping into
> another one is instructive. One learns a lot not only from
> the things that are present in the different environment
> (in my case, Paris), but the things that are missing in the
> different environment. Being mindful of this on my latest
> Road Trip, I figured I'd bring a little of that mindfulness
> back to FFL and rap about the things I found missing while
> playing catch-up today.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How the ultimate BP Gulf disaster could kill millions

[hugheshugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> "If the huge methane bubble breaches the seabed, it will erupt with an 
> explosive fury similar to that experienced during the eruption of Mt. Saint 
> Helens in the Pacific Northwest. A gas gusher will surge upwards through 
> miles of ancient sedimentary rock—layer after layer—past the oil reservoir. 
> It will explode upwards propelled by 50 tons psi, burst through the cracks 
> and fissures of the compromised sea floor, and rupture miles of ocean bottom 
> with one titanic explosion.
> 
> The burgeoning methane gas cloud will surface, killing everything it touches, 
> and set off a supersonic tsunami with the wave traveling somewhere between 
> 400 to 600 miles per hour.
> 
> While the entire Gulf coastline is vulnerable, the state most exposed to the 
> fury of a supersonic wave towering 100 feet or more is Florida. The Sunshine 
> State only averages about 6 inches above sea level. A supersonic tsunami 
> would literally sweep away everything from Miami to the panhandle in a matter 
> of minutes. Loss of human life would be virtually instantaneous and measured 
> in the millions. Of course the states of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, 
> Alabama and  southern region of Georgia—a state with no Gulf coastline—would 
> also experience tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of 
> casualties."

And if a giant asteroid was to hit the north american continental
plate at exactly the same time it would set off every earthquake
fault line and volcano on earth, and the population of china gasping
in shock at hearing the news would suck the earth's atmosphere away.
Which would make the survivors fall over and tilt the earth's orbit into the 
path of the sun. Jesus this could be bad.

 
> http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/55689
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4hfGY6i75w&feature=player_embedded#
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMEr4FctWAM&feature=player_embedded#
>

[FairfieldLife] SomeWhere in Wiltshire. Steeped in relative ignorance this farmer express his h

[nablusoss1008]

  

SomeWhere in Wiltshire.
Reported 21st June.
Map Ref:
This Page has been accessed
  [Hit Counter]


Updated Monday 21st June 2010
     AERIAL SHOTS
  GROUND SHOTS
  DIAGRAMS
  FIELD REPORTS
  COMMENTS
  ARTICLES
   00/00/10 00/00/10 00/00/10 00/00/10 00/00/10 00/00/10

A  MESSAGE FOR THE SOLSTICE?   A Wonderful Formation has appeared in the
mystical Vale Pewsey to welcome in the Summer Solstice.   This formation
seems to me to have links to the Wilton Windmill formation that appeared
in oil seed rape earlier in the season.   This formation is in young
wheat crop. This latest circle appears, like Wilton Windmill, to have
some sort of coded message within the design.   This formation really
needs to be seen from the air to get the full impact of its profound
statement.   Julian Gibsone (Director of our Crop Circle DVD's)




Images John Montgomery Copyright 2010

I have this morning noticed the circle on land that I manage.

I do not support this vandalism, and demand that this circle, and the
location are not reported on your web-site.

We will be posting notices on the field stating we do not allow access
to the circle, and will regularly monitor the field to ensure this is
obeyed.  At this stage, the crop remains harvestable, and as a result,
we will leave the circle intact.  If visitors to the site ignore our
notices, and continue to walk into the crop, we will mow out the circle.

I will be taking advice from the local police, and legal advice from our
solicitors to counter this act of vandalism.

Please let the teams behind the circles know, they are not welcome here.
If we get anymore, we will be forced to mow them out to avoid the
hassle.

I thank you for your assistance.

Gavin R A Davies Farm Manager


  

CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD






Image Olivier Morel Copyright 2010

[FairfieldLife] Re: How the ultimate BP Gulf disaster could kill millions

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Thanks Judy. It's impressive how well-informed you've become
> on this topic.

Rick, I'm really just barely informed on the most minimal
basics. OTOH, it isn't that difficult for a layperson to
become as informed as I am.

All I've been doing is hanging out at TheOilDrum.com and
reading the discussions there among knowledgeable oil
industry folks. Or rather skimming them--because most of
the discussion goes way over my head, it's so technical.

Even just the material in the New York Times, and/or the
Times Picayune (of New Orleans--at nola.com) and some of
the excellent articles in the Wall Street Journal will
give you most of the basics, enough to recognize a tall
tale when you see one.

(You *aren't* likely to get a clear picture even on this
basic level from TV, though, either broadcast or cable.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: The sorry state of an grumpy old TMO-hater no longer "spongeworthy"

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > To do a Willytex on this, "So you're saying that a
> > morbidly obese old man (with all that says about his
> > own personal level of happiness), trying to convince 
> > meditators that the TM organization has a future, 
> > could find no way to do so other than show photos
> > of the past and talk about it."  
> 
> Day after day, year after year you denounce the TMO, yet you are 
> going nowhere and the TMO is expanding all over the world except 
> for in the West (which had it's divine opportunity). 
> 
> You're on a dead-end-road in your "Buddhist" evangelism against 
> the TMO, and you're not getting any younger.
> 
> Don't you have anything better to do ?

Nabby,

Just for fun I'm going to pretend you replied to my
earlier "The Things Not Talked About" post and not
this one. So in answer to your last sentence above,
I'll turn it around on you -- don't *you* have any-
thing better to do than what we see here on FFL?

Your schtick seems to be to post TM and Benjamin 
Creme and UFO propaganda and call the folks who don't 
find any of them as fascinating as you do names. I 
can't remember you ever speaking much about your 
life, in a way that convinced me you have one. 

You have spoken of at least one past girlfriend, as 
if she was part of the distant past. You have spoken 
of your past Purusha involvement, also distant past. 

What you never speak of is your present. 

Do you have one?

If you don't mind, tell us about the most uplifting 
and interesting spiritual experience you have had
recently.

To put my request in perspective, from my point of
view you are free to believe that the TM movement is 
still moving; I am less convinced, that's all. Con-
trary to what you claim I don't hate the TMO; I find 
it an interesting failed socio-religious experiment, 
and follow its exploits like soap opera because I 
was once a minor character in the soap opera, and 
am curious as to how it'll end. As I've told you 
many times, I'm not even a Buddhist, much less a 
Buddhist evangelist. As for "going nowhere," and 
being on a "dead-end road," I can see how you would 
believe that because I have no one in my life I call 
"guru" or "master" or even teacher, and some see 
thinking for themselves as an indication of failure. 

That said, if someone made the request of me I make
of you above, at any point in the last ten years, I 
wouldn't have to go back any further than a few days 
to think of my most recent uplifting and interesting 
spiritual experience.

If you have to go back to your days with Maharishi 
to come up with yours, I'd suggest that the path you 
and Bevan are on is possibly more reminiscent of a 
dead end than mine.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alien Civilizations could be One Million Years Ahead of Earth

[Hugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> I called him a creationist as a way to signal that he's not reachable by 
> logic or fact and that he'll trollishly defend untoward positions with an 
> endless parade of trying to spin the debate instead of resolve the debate.  
> And, I actually do feel like he's trying to make the case that today's 
> creationists maintain with statements which have been deeply considered in 
> the literature and found to be easily debunked. 
> 
> Perhaps, but only just barely, Hugo may simply just not be well-read instead 
> of the hidden agendaist that I think he obviously presents to us.
> 
> And, yeah, sometimes I'm just a name caller, cuz it gets to the point.

Ah Edg, if only it was a point worth getting to.

I think the problem here is your dislike of opinions that
differ from your own. My point in the "where is everyone?"
debate is that for every glass-half-full theory that 
someone comes up with there is an equally valid and contrary
we-just-might-be-all-alone one.

Amongst all the staggering coincidences and apparently 
rare requirements that common organic molecules have to 
go through in order to become complex life forms I forgot to
mention that the trigger (for their always is one in leaps 
of evolution) for life to go from the happy bacterial state 
it was in for 3 billion years into it's post-cambrian 
cornucopia is the fact that the Earth was frozen solid for 
millions of years thus the only survivors were the bacteria 
that mutated into the cell that make up *all* living things 
today. 

This isn't creationism, it's hard empirical science and is 
easily checkable. You can continue to believe that complex 
life is common in the universe, I'm just saying that it may
not be so, coz we appear to have had a long hard journey 
getting here.

 
> Edg
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> > 
> > > I have concluded that you are not actually reading my words
> > > with understandingif at all.
> > 
> > Calling Hugo a "creationist" doesn't exactly put you in the
> > best position to conclude that *he* is not reading *your*
> > words with understanding. Just sayin'...
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] The sorry state of an grumpy old TMO-hater no longer "spongeworthy"

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:

> To do a Willytex on this, "So you're saying that a
> morbidly obese old man (with all that says about his
> own personal level of happiness), trying to convince 
> meditators that the TM organization has a future, 
> could find no way to do so other than show photos
> of the past and talk about it."  


Day after day, year after year you denounce the TMO, yet you are going nowhere 
and the TMO is expanding all over the world except for in the West (which had 
it's divine opportunity). 

You're on a dead-end-road in your "Buddhist" evangelism against the TMO, and 
you're not getting any younger.

Don't you have anything better to do ?

[FairfieldLife] Share International magazine June 2010 - Questions and answers

[nablusoss1008]

Q. You have said that Maitreya has appeared 16 times (as of 12 June
2010) already in television interviews. Did He always use the same name?
Did He appear in the mayavirupa [a self-created physical body] made in
the Himalayas?

A. He appeared as He looks. He uses the same name each time – not
Maitreya but another name which He will use until the Day of
Declaration.



Q. Why does He not use His own name?

A. Millions of people are waiting for Maitreya to come and do our work
for us. By `work' mean accepting the principle of sharing,
creating justice and peace. The nations don't do it – it is
difficult, so they want Maitreya to come and do it for them. He
doesn't come for that; Maitreya comes to inspire and galvanize
humanity but not to do our work for us.

If Maitreya comes incognito He knows that people will be responding to
His ideas; they will be responding because they want for the world what
He is advocating for the world and not because it is the World Teacher
Himself Who is saying these things.



Q. On 26 March 2010, a South Korean warship was sunk close to the
North-South Korean maritime border. The South Korean investigation into
the cause of the sinking has concluded that a torpedo fired from a North
Korean submarine was to blame. The US and other governments have
condemned North Korea, but the North claims that so-called evidence was
deliberately planted and strongly denies any involvement. Did a North
Korean submarine really fire the torpedo?

A. My information is that North Korea had nothing to do with the sinking
of the South Korean ship. (And certainly North Korea has nothing to gain
from taking this action. In fact it has everything to lose from the
growing sanctions which would obviously be imposed.) My information is
that the true culprit is the American CIA, to bring further pressure on
North Korea.



Q. You say that the Day of Declaration will happen throughout the world
simultaneously? Will it be during the daytime? At night? Will it be the
same time whether it is day or night in some places?

A. Exactly. Maitreya lives in London. Now, it may happen that Maitreya
will decide that it will be, let's say for example, on a Sunday at
three o'clock in the afternoon, perhaps. In Tokyo that would be
about 11pm; that's not too bad. In some places – like Australia
and New Zealand – people will have to get up at 3am. In some places
people will have to set their alarm clocks or stay awake. They will have
to work out when it will be for them, locally. It depends on where you
live.



Q. Was the Master Who appeared in Tokyo, at your lectures, a woman?

A. No, all the Masters, at the present time, are in male bodies. That is
the case now but will not always be the case in the future. But, of
course, the Masters can appear to people as men and women; then it is as
a `familiar', or temporary self-created body.



Q. I have noticed an increase of contrails in the skies of Orange
County, California, USA. Actually, they seem to fit the definition of
chemtrails, as the jets circle back to leave criss-cross patterns of
expanding clouds in the sky. (1) Is this the US government trying to
keep control over the populace after the Day of Declaration? (2) Or are
these a sign of Maitreya's emergence?

A. (1) No. (2) No.



Q. When asked what he thought of Western civilization, Gandhi reportedly
answered: "It would be a good idea." (1) May I ask what you
think of the current state of the US healthcare system? (2) Is universal
healthcare a feasible goal – not only in the USA, but in each
country?

A. (1) The current US healthcare system is to my mind divisive and
exclusive, but what I think is not important. Rather, you should ask the
44 millions who cannot afford healthcare what they think about it. (2)
Yes, yes, yes! Totally feasible and attainable if we get our priorities
right and end war, create justice and share the resources of the world.



Q. Regarding the Lisbon Treaty which was ratified on 1 January 2009.
According to spoken and documented evidence, does this mean that the UK
no longer has a constitution as we know it? Many are saying that the
European Union is now a base for a communist dictatorship, whereby the
people have no say in their voting referendums or in their
constitutional rights. That all these things are just a mock smoke
screen to appease the majority of the populace. Does Mr Creme and/or his
Master lend any credence to this?

A. No, I don't lend any credence to it. Nor does my Master.



Q. How can Japan and other developed countries help the world?

A. Instead of making all these useless gadgets, if countries like Japan,
Germany, Britain, America and China really wanted to help the world they
would sell off all the useless gadgets they produce to any fool who
would buy them and donate the money to the starving millions who have
nothing at all.



Q. Does Japan possess nuclear weapons?

A. No. But it has nuclear power stations which are pouring high levels
of nuclear radiation into th

[FairfieldLife] Importance Of Om From Our Swami

[martin.quickman]

http://childrenofimmortality.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/importance-of-om-from-swami-rama/

[FairfieldLife] Silence Is The True Spiritual Instruction

[martin.quickman]

http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2010/06/21/silence-is-the-true-spiritual-instruction-all-about-steady-wisdom/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhagavad-Gita

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Olson"  wrote:
>
> The one that I have is 
> 
>  
> 
>   The
> Bhagavad Gita: According to Paramhansa Yogananda [Kindle Edition]
> By: Paramhansa Yogananda, Swami KriyanandaI
> 
> OR are you recommending 
> 
> "The essence of the BG explained by P. Yogananda?

I wouldn't recommend Kriyananda's interpretation!! Get it from SRF or Amazon:  
http://www.amazon.com/God-Talks-Arjuna-Bhagavad-Gita/dp/0876120311/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277118971&sr=8-11

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meeting with Dr. Bevan Morris, Sunday, 1:30 PM

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> In Fairfield.  
> 
> Was Bevan emeritus.  A simple meeting.  He did just what he might 
> be doing with stories of his time with Maharishi.  Was very 
> charming teaching by example of vignettes about his times with 
> Maharishi.  In the telling of the eye-witness devotee, it was 
> done with a spare powerpoint slide show of old still images to 
> talk off of.  Not administrative though obviously with his thumb 
> on the organization, was just a charming talk which mostly was 
> about a more intimate character of Maharishi.  Yes some lot of 
> hubris but that was to be expected.
> 
> A nice meditator meeting.  Full audience.  No badges needed.  
> Even Rick Archer could have gone to hear it.  Bevan looked good 
> and comfortable (though seems in a grade of congestive heart 
> failure from being so morbidly obese for so long).  However, he's 
> evidently got a role and he is moving on it.  The meeting was not 
> a Patton apologizing to assembled troops for lapse of leadership. 
> No mention.  Only the future.  A call to meditation.   

To do a Willytex on this, "So you're saying that a
morbidly obese old man (with all that says about his
own personal level of happiness), trying to convince 
meditators that the TM organization has a future, 
could find no way to do so other than show photos
of the past and talk about it."  

There was an old Firesign Theater skit called "Forward,
Into The Past." I always liked that phrase. It seemed
to capture so much about the TM movement and other sup-
posedly spiritual organizations. Their "glorious moments,"
the things they focus on to inspire them and enable them
to keep on keepin' on, are all in the past. Either the
past of memory, when they were all young and silly ideas
didn't sound so silly hearing them the first time around,
or the past of myth and fable, back in the glorious Vedic
Era that history can find no trace of, a time of peace 
and prosperity and well-being that we can only dream of 
re-achieving today, in which all those non-stop wars 
it talks about were merely symbolic. 

You can long for your Patton speech all you want, Buck,
but if you're one of the people sitting there quietly
listening to stories you've heard dozens of times before 
and never interrupting to say, "Yeah...but what about NOW," 
you don't really deserve an apology. You're part of the 
problem, not the solution.

[FairfieldLife] The Things Not Talked About

[TurquoiseB]

Getting out of one's normal environment and dropping into another one
is instructive. One learns a lot not only from the things that are
present
in the different environment (in my case, Paris), but the things that
are
missing in the different environment. Being mindful of this on my latest
Road Trip, I figured I'd bring a little of that mindfulness back to FFL
and rap about the things I found missing while playing catch-up today.

In my intro to the great AlterNet article I posted earlier, I termed
this
place and its ongoing focus "The World Inside My Head, And Why It's
Better Than Yours." Having just come from Paris and having interacted
with the French again, I don't think that is an unfair description of
FFL.

The French are actually one of the few nationalities on the planet who
still appreciate philosophy, and who consider being a philosopher a
career. They think a LOT. But that thinking and spending time with
ideas inside their heads is always balanced with attention to and a keen
appreciation for the world outside their heads. Ask any philosopher or
spiritual thinker in France what is most important to them, and they
would probably launch into a rhapsodic description of their spouses,
children, friends, the foods and wines they love, the sunset that was so
beautiful it made them weep, that sorta stuff.

Being around that more balanced view of life, in which the world outside
one's head is perceived as just as important (and as fascinating) as the
ideas buzzing around inside it, I could not help but notice when
skimming
the posts on FFL this morning that it's a VERY one-sided place. There
are
things that are almost never talked about here, and those things tend to
be the things that happen outside one's head. For example:

People

Except for total recluses (and we've probably got a few), most of the
folks
here on FFL have other people in their lives. Howcum we never hear about
them? The impression one gets from scanning a week's worth of FFL posts
(and I know, because I just did it) is that most of the posters have
nothing
going on in their lives except what's going on inside their heads, and
have
no one else in those lives.

Folks here must have wives or husbands or lovers. Howcum they never come
up? They have children, and they almost never come up. Think of that. On
the whole, the only descriptions of or references by one human being on
FFL
to another human being is to some spiritual teacher or guru somewhere,
or
to some personality within their spiritual organization or in the news.
Call
me crazy, but I think that's weird.

As for "internal references," and talk of other FFL posters, I don't
have to
tell anyone here what that consists of. It's primarily name-calling and
pigeon-
holing. If you find what you consider the proper epithet to call someone
who
has pointed out that you have not a single piece of objective evidence
for some
belief inside your head, you can hurl that epithet at the other person
and
ignore the lack of evidence. And you can do so safely, because most
other
posters will just quibble about your choice of epithet and ignore the
fact that
by relying on it you've just run for the "safe place" inside your own
head again,
where no one challenges any of your ideas.  :-)

The Realm Of The Senses

On the whole, things discussed on FFL tend to be about ideas or
emotions.
Again, internal. Few (other than Alex and Curtis when he was still here)
talk about how astounding the meal they prepared last night was, or how
perfect the bottle of wine they served with it complemented the meal. I
can't
remember the last time anyone here mentioned how something smells, or
how the wind feels on your face (much less how the touch of a loved one
feels). There is more talk about visual inputs, but predominantly about
artificial visuals, such as movies.

Couple this with the disdain and actual scorn shown by some some posters
here for the phenomena of the relative world, and again I cannot help
but
think that something is out of balance. It's almost as if decades of
sitting
with eyes closed and focusing inward has robbed people of the ability to
appreciate the joys of the external world.

I don't know about you guys, but if I were to try to describe the "high
points"
of my time in Paris, it would almost all be in terms of the people I
interacted
with and the sensory overload of being back in one of the world's great
cities.
Several meals I had there trump any idea I've had inside my head for
months.
The sights and smells walking through the marché in Bastille make the
things
I was pondering the week before shrink into insignificance. Yes, I sat
in cafes
and thought, but that inside-my-head pondering was always balanced by
and
interactive with what was going on around me. So it really struck me
when I
sat down to catch up on the ongoing FFL soap opera how much of its focus
seems so non-interactive with the world, and so stuck inside its own
head.

If Willytex were to characterize my time in Paris, it wou