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No, I didn't suggest that the Google links were to examples. I was responding to Richard's claim that it didn't exist, essentially, because he'd never seen it. Obviously many people have seen it, but you wouldn't expect to see links to examples, for pete's sake. As I said, the next time I come across an example, I'll give you a link. But you're still overinterpreting standard practice, as I explained and you ignored. As to Barry, if you aren't going to call him on his behavior because he's a mean SOB and you don't read his posts, may I suggest you skip mine as well? Hypocrite. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I don't think you have even remotely established this as standard practice. On the contrary, it's an unusual deviation from the norm. I wasn't impressed by the link you provided. It was a lot of people asking about the use of periods after every word, but not a single example that I could see. Nor have I seen a single example of its use by a good writer. Where are these blogs in which it is standard practice? In answer to your question, I do not in general read Turquoise B. He is a mean S.O.B. so I usually avoid him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: What is with you? I wouldn't have said it if I didn't mean it. But don't overinterpret. It's not that every time someone wants to be emphatic, they use it. Rather, it's standard in that it's used often enough that most readers have seen it before and don't think it's weird; they understand what it's meant to convey. It's been around for several years now. As I say, next time I see it used, I'll give you the link. Then maybe you can relax. You're getting yourself all worked up over nothing. The Internet is changing how people write, and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it. You didn't answer my question, BTW, as to why you didn't explode in blind rage when Barry has used it. Feste continues to fester: Are you still insisting that it's pretty much standard practice these days for bloggers and commenters when they want to say something emphatically? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I don't follow it because it's a fad. I don't follow it at all, actually; I very rarely use it. But it really isn't stupid--if you think about how it would sound if you said it aloud, you may hear an echo of, say, your mother: You. Get. In. Here. Right. Now. It can be an effective way of emphasizing something. Me, I don't think standards of good writing on a Web forum (i.e., highly informal, conversational) necessarily exclude what would be nonstandard in more formal writing if it adds something--flavor, humor, irony, surprise. It can be creative and entertaining if well used. Given your reaction, I'll most likely use the period-after-every-word effect more often. It's fun to see your stuffy freakout. I believe Barry has used it a few times, but that didn't seem to have upset you. Double standards, perhaps?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
Dear Feste, this is an example of a letter, you as a good friend, should have addressed to Share, IMHO. Switch out the name Share for Judy or Ann, and you've got a letter to deliver to your friend Share. Stated gently with loving kindness and concern for her well-being as a human being, of course. All you said about her vile post to Ann was something like (and I paraphrase)I didn't particularly care for it, but she's a friend of mine and I am loyal to my friends. Really? I gave Ravi a bigger ration of shit than that and he gave me one as well. And, I've only met him once. Personally, I depend on my friends that I know in the flesh to tell me the truth and I do the same with them, and we respect and love and trust each other enough to do it and work on owning our own shit. Blind loyalty is a waste of time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: You are as responsible as anyone else for creating an atmosphere of mutual disrespect. Do you behave like this in your real, day-to-day life? Is that how you talk to people? I don't think so. The real dishonesty, the real lie, comes from you. I think you are dishonest with yourself. I suspect that the truth, as I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, is that you enjoy being mean. You enjoy hitting out at other people. My guess is that doing so assuages some of the anger that you feel and gives you some kind of safety valve that you find satisfying. You concoct this fake issue of dishonesty and pretend to yourself that you are the virtuous one, standing up for what is right. Unfortunately, the reality is that you are a person in the grip of some very deep-rooted obsessions that make you very difficult and unpleasant to deal with. Your behavior toward Share is a disgrace. It amounts to harassment, and I don't think this forum should put up with it. You wouldn't be able to do it on Facebook, yet you think you can do it here. You should either change your behavior or unsubscribe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: So you think lying is fine too? As I've said before, most folks here are honest. But there are still several Bad Apples (fortunately some of the worst ones have left) who have no inhibitions about lying--in particular, about other FFL members they don't like--and I think that is terribly destructive. It's the essence of unkindness. And it's hardly a matter of old grudges when it continues to this day. I have never been on a Web forum where lying was so complacently tolerated. But it breeds mutual disrespect and lowers standards of civility generally. I would be willing to bet that if there were less tolerance for lying, there would be a lot less unkindness overall. As I've said many times before, life is tough enough when everyone is doing their absolute damndest to be as honest as they possibly can. There's no excuse for making it tougher. IMHO, of course. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think people are pretty honest here. The only person who obsesses about lying is you. Your question to Buck is of course just a way of sidestepping the issue of perpetual unkindness. I can see why you would want to do that, since you are the principal purveyor of it. You need to let go of all these old grudges and obsessions. They are negative attachments that do not serve you well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: How about the lying? You never mention the lying, Buck. Does that mean you think it's OK to lie? Buck huffed: You can't even hardly invite any civilized person to visit here to FFL with what perpetual unkindness has taken over here on this yahoo-group. It is simply appalling that this culture of low meanness and unkindness has got going here. It is no good to have in our house, But I fear most now for the very life of this entire list if this culture of unkindness is not checked. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Poor Judy Stein
Here she is having a total meltdown becuz no one believes her crap about being a crusader against dishonesty and even Feste is calling her on her meanness and nails her in a lie about punctuation on blogs and y'know what the worst part is? She can't get anyone to come to her defense the way they used to. The only person who is willing to stand up for Judy any more is the woman who never learned to meditate, has nothing to contribute to the ongoing discussions here, and who only posts to this forum because it gives *her* an opportunity to be mean to people. Birds of a feather, eh? Personally I find it all pretty heartening. A few months ago if Judy had thrown a hissy fit like this and tried to pose as some kind of noble crusader against untruth (because, of course, only SHE knows the truth), she could have gotten a few people to pile on and defend her. But even *they* distance themselves from her these days. Not that that'll stop her, of course. Judy will do what she's always done, and possibly even louder. But at least now she'll be standing in the street screaming like an insane bag lady *all by herself*, and hopefully no one but other crazies will be taken in by the screaming...
[FairfieldLife] Missing posts!
Looks like loads of my posts disappeared this week. Also looks like it was my fault for pressing the reply button twice instead of the send button when I'm done. LOL, Well, they are both big and purple-someone should do something about that Sorry to deprive you of my fascinating (ahem) insights...
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
Dying with dignity? There's also nothing wrong with dying in miserable agony, but why bother? I'm going to try and prolong my life because I quite enjoy living, the idea of quitting just because some bacteria or illness (or whatever) happens to inflict itself on me sounds unnecessarily defeatist. And to do it because you think it's a natural course seems depressingly fatalistic. We have medicine to try and change the lottery of nature with its hideous methods of disposing of us. I know people that have *died* because some beardy guy brainwashed them with stupid, untested ideas that his organisation makes millions from. Sure they didn't have to drink the Kool-aid but a great many do and the TMO has done nothing to dissuade them by actually conducting clinical trials into their herbal muck. So whose fault is it? Plenty of religious groups don't allow believers to have operations or even blood transfusions. You are free to chose to refuse medical help even if you are doing so on mistaken information from people who have dominated your inner life to the extent that you might believe god won't want you in heaven if your mix blood with someone else. Some groups teach that you can fly even! But children aren't free to make decisions like that and have to rely on us to do the hard thinking for them, perhaps they might prefer going to school or maybe even not having their lives ruled by superstitious weirdo's? This is where the state should intervene, to protect them from our more bizarre ideas. Adults can do what they like. It is, as I said, natural selection. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Salyavin, There's nothing wrong in dying with dignity. The human body does not have to be prolonged by artificial means. It can be justified, in most cases, to leave the body alone by itself to follow the natural course. If the body recovers, it would be the best. If it does not, then life would end naturally. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
