Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count

2015-04-21 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
    FFL has averaged 48.5 posts per day since January 1st of this year. The 
Peak is showing about 25 posts a day but is showing an even sharper decline at 
the moment. I do think substantive conversations have declined because of the 
reduced contrast in viewpoints.
Quite frankly, I think that substantive conversations have declined because 
everything has been said, probably a hundred times, over the course of years 
FFL has been around. That, and the fact that most people have lightened up over 
the years and don't cling to old ideas enough to feel they have to argue about 
them. 

Try to imagine how pathetic it would be, after all, to still be stuck in a 
mindspace in which one still thinks that TM is the best and most effective 
form of meditation is a viable basis for an argument.  

I would say some others left because they got upset at something they could not 
emotionally handle. Supposedly meditators and sidhas can neutralise the 
critical thinking (or negativity from another viewpoint) of others because 
their minds are more powerful and satvic. It did not pan out this way. Jim 
left, seemingly in a huff, as did Nabby; they seem happy over on the Peak. We 
don't know why Judy left, she just basically stopped. 

Jim left because he got caught acting out his obsessive anger towards me by 
indulging in the classic legal definition of slander. He'd been doing it for 
years, but when he turned *really* nasty and started encouraging people to 
contact officials in my town and tell them I was a child molestor, then he went 
over the line and I sicced the law on him. Jim ran away because he was afraid 
the Dutch cops would put him in jail (which they could have). Nabby was doing 
exactly the same thing in terms of slander, but another of the reasons he ran 
away was because he knew that the Dutch cops and Interpol already knew who he 
was in real life behind his screen name, and that his pretense all these years 
of being German was about to be blown (he's really Norwegian, and has been 
lying to everyone on FFL and a.m.t. about his real citizenship for years). 

But the bottom line -- outside of these specifics -- is just as Anartaxius 
suggests. These guys just couldn't emotionally handle hearing opinions that 
differed from their own. They tried their best to make those contrary opinions 
go away, and when they couldn't, *they* ran away. 

As for Judy, I think a case can be made that the real reason WHY Jim, Nabby, 
and Ann all ran away is that Judy was no longer around to protect them when 
they got into one of their group slander-fests. None of them had neither the 
intelligence nor the balls to keep up her act without her.   

...snip...
Here on FFL we can discuss these ideas pro and con, without killing. If you 
think your ideas are special and need some kind of protection however, you are 
entering the discussion at a disadvantage, you are entering the discussion with 
a weakness, for if you think your ideas need to be artificially propped up, 
then it is clear they do not pass muster in the game of reality. 

Bingo. 

Also we do not necessarily discuss reality here. We can discuss the plot of a 
movie that is based on a fictional script, or a song, or a poem, or one could 
talk about feelings. But when reality is part of the conversation you have to 
deal with a particular entity called the 'fact'. A fact is 'a thing that is 
indisputably the case'. That means you have to demonstrate that something is 
true, not just say it is true.
And I think that everyone here would have to admit that long-time TMers are not 
big on facts. They're used to claiming to know things and having people 
actually buy that bullshit, the same way they bought the bullshit when 
Maharishi claimed to know things. 

Now Buck, you have stayed around. Congratulations. But you need to hone your 
debate skills, and get your facts lined up. Now that the TM movement has dumped 
you out yet again, why not tell us what you really think? How has your 
spiritual progress panned out over the years? Did it work as well as you 
expected. Better? Worse? For example, mine worked out pretty well, but I have 
many points of contention with the TMO, and where the TMO failed me, I found 
other resources. I don't blame the TMO for its inadequacies, even if they came 
directly from M. The flexibility to move on when necessary is after all one of 
the features of Creative Intelligence, to do something different if what you 
are doing is keeping you in a rut. TM did well enough (for me), but the 
universe is wide and expansive, the playground of search is not restricted to 
one note.
It will be interesting to see whether Buck is still sane enough to reply to 
this. It would be pleasant -- and surprising -- if he was. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :





Left or driven off?  This as your thinking is fine as intelligent retort on one 
level 

[FairfieldLife] Reasons for Colonizing Mars

2015-04-21 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Primarily, it's for the survival of the humanity.  That would include the 
economic advantages of creating an infrastructure to colonize Mars.  That means 
employment for engineers, physicists, scientists and astronauts and others who 
will contribute to the colonization of the planet.  In the long run, there 
could be a trade of products between the human inhabitants of Earth and Mars.
 

 This idea could be a viable alternative to reducing the national debt of the 
US and the rest of the world economies.
 

 5 undeniable reasons humans need to colonize Mars — even though it's going to 
cost billions 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/5-undeniable-reasons-humans-colonize-134500959.html

 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
are you using that term tosspot in the contemptible and stupid sense or the 
drunkard sense?
Had to look that one up, you know. 
 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive informal 
fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a red herring 
which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, 
merely by an irrelevant association. The two types are sometimes referred to as 
guilt by association.  
Apparently you are still a thick twat.


Science Says You Should Ignore Internet Trolls
And you can't argue with the science. I shall reassume my ignoration of the 
Texan tosspot.

 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Eye-Talians and Vaccines

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
See my nest post But Forbes Says
  From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eye-Talians and Vaccines
   
 People are told daily in scientific articles to be careful about what they 
put in their bodies when they eat.  Then they are told to allow whatever big 
pharma deems profitable with a vaccine, to be injected into their body.  You 
can see why a growing segment of society is questioning vaccines.  OTOH, I am 
amused at the segment, usually people who consider themselves liberal, are 
instant doctors when it comes to the issue of being pro vaccine.  These are 
sometimes the same people who question contradictory nutritional claims by 
scientists. 
 
 On 04/21/2015 08:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Reasons for Colonizing Mars

2015-04-21 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
We could open a branch of WestPoint there also.
   From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 2:16 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Reasons for Colonizing Mars
   
    Primarily, it's for the survival of the humanity.  That would include the 
economic advantages of creating an infrastructure to colonize Mars.  That means 
employment for engineers, physicists, scientists and astronauts and others who 
will contribute to the colonization of the planet.  In the long run, there 
could be a trade of products between the human inhabitants of Earth and Mars.
This idea could be a viable alternative to reducing the national debt of the US 
and the rest of the world economies.
5 undeniable reasons humans need to colonize Mars — even though it's going to 
cost billions
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Eye-Talians and Vaccines

2015-04-21 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
It's all about treating us like chickens in a coop.  You must obey, 
MJ.  See John Carpenter's movie They Live on Hulu where you can watch 
it for free (with ads).



On 04/21/2015 10:16 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

See my nest post But Forbes Says


*From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Eye-Talians and Vaccines

People are told daily in scientific articles to be careful about what 
they put in their bodies when they eat.  Then they are told to allow 
whatever big pharma deems profitable with a vaccine, to be injected 
into their body.  You can see why a growing segment of society is 
questioning vaccines.  OTOH, I am amused at the segment, usually 
people who consider themselves liberal, are instant doctors when 
it comes to the issue of being pro vaccine.  These are sometimes the 
same people who question contradictory nutritional claims by scientists.


On 04/21/2015 08:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



U.S. Media Blackout: Italian Courts Rule Vaccines Cause Autism 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/5430940 



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On September 23, 2014, an Italian court in Milan awarded compensation 
to a boy for vaccine-induced autism. (See the Italian document here.) 
A childhood vaccine agai...


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: sanskrit fever

2015-04-21 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Just wait until they start learning the 11 tenses.  It's such a much 
more complicated language than probably any modern day language.  And 
make sure you don't confuse Devanagari, the alphabet, with Sanskrit 
because Hindi also uses it and it there is are added characters for z 
and f which didn't exist in Sanskrit so they could spell foreign words 
with the characters.  When I was in India you would see a store sign 
with Devanagari on the top line and English on the bottom but the 
Devanagari was spelling out what was written in English. :-D



On 04/21/2015 04:38 AM, aryavazhi wrote:


I saw this on FB too. What's written on page 14 then?
http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/1/1 
http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/14/1 MAIL 
TODAY 
http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/15/1





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MAIL TODAY 
http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/15/1
MAIL TODAY is a compact morning daily. It marries the credibility and 
authenticity of the India Today Group with the international standards 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread salyavin808

 Contemptible and stupid. Didn't realise it was so apt actually.
 

 But the fact that it also refers to drunkenness may explain a lot of his 
behaviour. Maybe he drinks a bottle of scotch, types endless drivel about 
things he knows nothing about on the internet and then forgets all about it 
until the next day
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 are you using that term tosspot in the contemptible and stupid sense or the 
drunkard sense?

 
 Had to look that one up, you know. 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive informal 
fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a red herring 
which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, 
merely by an irrelevant association. The two types are sometimes referred to as 
guilt by association.  
 

 Apparently you are still a thick twat.
 









 Science Says You Should Ignore Internet Trolls 
http://time.com/3827683/internet-troll-research/?xid=IFT-Trending
 

 And you can't argue with the science. I shall reassume my ignoration of the 
Texan tosspot.
 

 
 
 
 http://time.com/3827683/internet-troll-research/?xid=IFT-Trending 
 
 Science Says You Should Ignore Internet Trolls 
http://time.com/3827683/internet-troll-research/?xid=IFT-Trending A new 
algorithm can predict Internet irritants with 80% accuracy
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] 7 VERY IMPORTANT REASONS TO START WITH VEDIC AGRICULTURE: updates

2015-04-21 Thread email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

MAHARISHI VEDIC ORGANIC AGRICULTURE:MORE QUALITY PLUS MORE QUANTITY

 Global Country of World Peace:  

AGRICULTURE is the science and art 
of agreeing with the culturing intelligence 
of Total Natural Law, 
in order to create fully nourishing and vital food, the basis of perfect health 
for the individual and the nation. 

http://www.globalcountry.org/wp/agriculture/


7 VERY IMPORTANT  REASONS  
TO START WITH VEDIC AGRICULTURE

1.           
1. MORE MINERALS  VITAMINS IN ORGANIC FOOD:
AS DIFFERENT STUDIES SHOW:

JUST CHECK THE CHARTS 

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IN CONVENTIONAL FOOD LESS MINERALS  VITAMINS:
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http://www.gesundheitsverband.net/vitalstoffe.html

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2.   
2. STUDIES SHOW:  THERE ARE 
TOO MUCH PESTICIDES IN OUR FOOD,
EVEN IN ORGANIC FOOD !!
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The Danger of Pesticides 
in Fruits  Vegetables to Kids and Adults:
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3.  
3. Do less  accomplish more 
we work with the nature, not against, 
what saves time, energy and money:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/organic-agriculture-benefits_n_998214.html



4.  
4. Food rising prices:
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BY OFFERING BEST QUALITY FOOD FOR A FAIR PRICE, VEDIC AGRICULTURE IS ABLE TO 
INSPIRE THE MARKET.

 ***

5.        
5. ORGANIC FOOD IS BOOOMING .
MORE AND MORE PEOPLE REALISE 
THE VALUE OF HEALTHY FOOD.

http://www.economicimpactrating.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/orgsales.png

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6.    
6. HEALTH BENEFITS OF VEDIC ORGANIC FOOD:

MEDITATING FARMERS, 
WHO USE VEDIC SOUNDS TO LET GROW THEIR PLANTS,
PRODUCES HEALTHY  HAPPY PLANTS, WHAT CREATES
HEALTHY FOOD AND HEALTHY PEOPLE ...

Health Benefits — Beyond Pesticicides
http://www.beyondpesticides.org/organicfood/health/
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7. 
7. WORLDPOPULATION IS GROWING:
IN ABOUT 35 YEARS THE POPULATION WILL BE 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 About all we're left with posting to FFL is a few science-writers, some 
lurking reporters, an occasional linguist and a few informants that got kicked 
out of the TMO decades ago. All the others left the group - now we are alone on 
the spiritual path. Nobody wants to give us any spiritual help. Where is Share 
when we need her? 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Many of the writers left here have in many ways become the people they revile, 
bullies like they see Bevan or others in the movement community...

That's the cognitive dissonance, Buck. If we are guilty by association like 
Salya seems to think, then everyone is a bully to a certain extent - it's 
sort of built into the system, it's a feature not a flaw. 

The problem is that we have no Correctors anymore, to sort of level things out, 
so the present inmates just get to run roughshod over the TMers. It's starting 
to look like there are only 3 or 4 TMers left on FFL - and only one single real 
TMO insider informant. 

So, we are probably not going to get much news about the movement on this 
forum. Go figure.

Nothing to see here folks. Just another person trying to blame the fact that he 
and the people he likes can't think of anything intelligent to say on the 
people they don't like.  

Sooo, turns out that there WERE ZERO posts since last night.Just 
another tell that FFL is going down for the count. 

  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
So, it's all about Jim. All about Jim acting out his obsessive anger towards 
Barry. So, that's what it is all about. That's what I'm talking about! Barry 
won the religious debate. And, he got rid of Judy. Barry won. Addressing the 
important issues! LoL!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : 
 

 Jim left because he got caught acting out his obsessive anger towards me 

Why was Jim angry with Barry? Why was Judy angry with Barry? Why did the 12 
others leave the group in anger? Why did they get so angry? Why would Jim be 
jealous of Barry? 

I'm trying to help you out here, Barry, keeping the conversation going. So many 
questions to be discussed, so little time.

by indulging in the classic legal definition of slander. 

If so, then Rick would have probably banned Jim from the group, right? So, I 
wonder why he did not? Go figure.  

He'd been doing it for years, but when he turned *really* nasty and started 
encouraging people to contact officials in my town and tell them I was a child 
molestor, then he went over the line and I sicced the law on him. Jim ran away 
because he was afraid the Dutch cops would put him in jail (which they could 
have). Nabby was doing exactly the same thing in terms of slander, but another 
of the reasons he ran away was because he knew that the Dutch cops and Interpol 
already knew who he was in real life behind his screen name, and that his 
pretense all these years of being German was about to be blown (he's really 
Norwegian, and has been lying to everyone on FFL and a.m.t. about his real 
citizenship for years). 
 

 
 
 Ironically there is an evident invective that is intolerance to conversation 
here and to divergent idea by a concentration of some few who remain active 
posting here. 
 
 Sooo, turns out that there WERE ZERO posts since last night. Just 
another tell that FFL is going down for the count.  





 
  



 


 













[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive informal 
fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a red herring 
which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, 
merely by an irrelevant association. The two types are sometimes referred to as 
guilt by association.  

The question is, why would you post a fallacy just to win a religious debate? 
Go figure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sal...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 

 Surprisingly loathsome TM poster boy Rupert Murdoch shows just how effective 
and compassionate a thinker TM can make you. 
 

 Murdoch berated Sun journalists for not doing enough to attack Miliband 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html

 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 
 Murdoch berated Sun journalists for not doing en... 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 Rupert Murdoch berated journalists on his tabloid papers for not doing enough 
to stop Labour winning the general election and warned them that the futu...


 
 View on www.independent.co.uk 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 





Re: [FairfieldLife] TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Really! I wonder what the TM junkies like sri and nabby would think if the 
world was being run by the likes of Ray Dalio and Murdoch?

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:42 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM and Spontaneous Right Action...
   
    
Surprisingly loathsome TM poster boy Rupert Murdoch shows just how effective 
and compassionate a thinker TM can make you. 
Murdoch berated Sun journalists for not doing enough to attack Miliband
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive informal 
fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a red herring 
which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, 
merely by an irrelevant association. The two types are sometimes referred to as 
guilt by association.  
 

 Apparently you are still a thick twat.

The question is, why would you post a fallacy just to win a religious debate? 
Go figure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sal...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 

 Surprisingly loathsome TM poster boy Rupert Murdoch shows just how effective 
and compassionate a thinker TM can make you. 
 

 Murdoch berated Sun journalists for not doing enough to attack Miliband 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html

 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 
 Murdoch berated Sun journalists for not doing en... 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 Rupert Murdoch berated journalists on his tabloid papers for not doing enough 
to stop Labour winning the general election and warned them that the futu...


 
 View on www.independent.co.uk 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 







Re: [FairfieldLife] TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Association fallacy - guilt by association.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Really! I wonder what the TM junkies like sri and nabby would think if the 
world was being run by the likes of Ray Dalio and Murdoch?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:42 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM and Spontaneous Right Action...
 
 
   
 

 Surprisingly loathsome TM poster boy Rupert Murdoch shows just how effective 
and compassionate a thinker TM can make you. 
 

 Murdoch berated Sun journalists for not doing enough to attack Miliband 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html

 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 
 Murdoch berated Sun journalists for not doing en... 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 Rupert Murdoch berated journalists on his tabloid papers for not doing enough 
to stop Labour winning the general election and warned them that the futu...


 
 View on www.independent.co.uk 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 


 


 









  


Re: [FairfieldLife] GREAT SOUL DAVID LYNCH

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Inland Empire was named the second-best film of 2007 (tied with two others) by 
Cahiers du cinéma,[4] and listed among Sight  Sound's thirty best films of 
the 2000s, as well as The Guardian;s 10 most underrated movies of the decade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Empire_%28film%29#Accolades 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Empire_%28film%29#Accolades  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 Well, I guess we know now the answer to whether email4you was ever a TM 
teacher. 

Non sequitur.
 

 The answer clearly has to be No, or else he wouldn't be so impressed at 
David Lynch doing such a bad impression of one.

Non sequitur.


 From: email4you mikemail4you@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 1:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] GREAT SOUL DAVID LYNCH
 
 
   
 https://www.facebook.com/skipndie/posts/10153199001764723 
https://www.facebook.com/skipndie/posts/10153199001764723
 

 JUST A 1 MINUTE INSPIRING ANALOGY.
 HAVE  NICE SPRING DAY.
 ENJOY ...

 

 



 


 







   

 The answer clearly has to be No, or else he wouldn't be so impressed at 
David Lynch doing such a bad impression of one. 

 From: email4you mikemail4you@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 1:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] GREAT SOUL DAVID LYNCH
 
 
   
 https://www.facebook.com/skipndie/posts/10153199001764723 
https://www.facebook.com/skipndie/posts/10153199001764723
 

 JUST A 1 MINUTE INSPIRING ANALOGY.
 HAVE  NICE SPRING DAY.
 ENJOY ...

 

 



 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GREAT SOUL DAVID LYNCH

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 Apparently the Lynch film Inland Empire was shot with a Sony DSR-PD150 and 
was the first Lynch digital video. This was done mainly for economic reasons. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Thing is that he shot Inland Empire with a Sony SD camera and not an HD 
camera.  

David doesn't get millennials.

Non sequitur.

That's okay, a lot of old farts don't. 

Non sequitur.

 Kinda hard to watch the movie on a bigger screen when you loft has no space 
for one.  

Non sequitur.

Stories are stories regardless of the resolution.

According to what I've read, film remains able to resolve more image detail 
than current HD video formats. Go figure.
  
 On 04/20/2015 06:18 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   This is still my fave David Lynch clip:
 
 David Lynch on iPhone
 
 
 
 
 David Lynch on iPhone David Lynch talks about watching film on a cell phone. 
Clip from special edition of Inland Empire, with music and graphics by the 
super awesome xmas.


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I know the truth hurts sometimes and its difficult to admit it. 

Judy, to my knowledge, never posted a single lie to FFL. She never called 
anyone a liar just to win a religious debate. 

When she posted that some of you informants were posting untrue statements, she 
called you on it. It's not complicated - you guys either fibbed or you lied - 
it's a form of newsgroup dishonesty. I never promised you a rose garden.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Try to imagine how pathetic it would be, after all, to still be stuck in a 
mindspace in which one still thinks that TM is the best and most effective 
form of meditation is a viable basis for an argument.  

Let's see, you've mentioned this at least 1000 times in the past 15 years. So, 
who is it exactly that supposedly said this? Nobody on this forum, so far as I 
can tell - ever posted that TM was the best and most effective form of 
meditation. 

So, yes it is kind of pathetic of you to post it once again. Go figure.
 


 
 
 Left or driven off?  This as your thinking is fine as intelligent retort on 
one level Anartaxius except, the low post and dwindled active member counts may 
show something else.   Looking in on the culture of what is FFL now, is it a 
surprise the numbers have dropped off when there is so much about Fairfield or 
larger spiritual matter being talked about otherwise by others actively 
involved in it? No, it is like the well was poisoned here by some. Ironically 
there is an evident invective that is intolerance to conversation here and to 
divergent idea by a concentration of some few who remain active posting here. 
If could be we are just getting on with our lives. Now that most of the TB 
crazies have left, some of the tart, sharp conversation has dwindled, and there 
are less opportunities for intelligent retorts. I think you would have welcomed 
the change.
 'Intelligent retort'? 
 We've not been very good at discussion here for some time on FFL and the place 
as a forum is nearly dead. Yep, visiting looking back in on Fairfieldlife at 
yahoo-groups evidently this is mostly a sad inhospitable place rendered down to 
some pulp substance of travelogue, movie reviews and the personal bickerings of 
a few.  Om, for what once was Fairfieldlife, 
 Sooo, turns out that there WERE ZERO posts since last night. Just 
another tell that FFL is going down for the count.  





 
  



 


 













[FairfieldLife] Amma Sri Karunamayi: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 04/21/2015

2015-04-21 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]





  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Mediation simply means to think things over in our mind. So, everyone meditates 
to a certain degree every day. Meditation is based on thinking and there's 
hardly a person on the planet that can't think. 

We couldn't go through a single day without once or twice pausing to take stock 
of our own mind's mental contents. And, we are all transcending all the time. 
There's no TM, Barry. I'm sorry - it's just a cult word you made up.

The real question is: did you enjoy?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 
 Quite frankly, I think that substantive conversations have declined because 
everything has been said, probably a hundred times, over the course of years 
FFL has been around. 

You still have not explained the human levitation events - that's the most 
interesting topic to ever be discussed on FFL - a special eyewitness account of 
human levitation in mid-air with no visible means of support. 

That, and we we've never really discussed the yogic flying. Why not? What is it 
that you're keeping secret? All we want is for you to be honest. It's not 
complicated.

 
 
 We've not been very good at discussion here for some time on FFL and the place 
as a forum is nearly dead. Yep, visiting looking back in on Fairfieldlife at 
yahoo-groups evidently this is mostly a sad inhospitable place rendered down to 
some pulp substance of travelogue, movie reviews and the personal bickerings of 
a few.  Om, for what once was Fairfieldlife, 
 Sooo, turns out that there WERE ZERO posts since last night. Just 
another tell that FFL is going down for the count.  





 
  



 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive informal 
fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a red herring 
which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, 
merely by an irrelevant association. The two types are sometimes referred to as 
guilt by association.  
Apparently you are still a thick twat.


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[FairfieldLife] But Forbes Says

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Court Rulings Don't Confirm Autism-Vaccine Link
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[FairfieldLife] Eye-Talians and Vaccines

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
U.S. Media Blackout: Italian Courts Rule Vaccines Cause Autism
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eye-Talians and Vaccines

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 It's a Potemkin village all the way down!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 U.S. Media Blackout: Italian Courts Rule Vaccines Cause Autism 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/5430940
  
  
 
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 U.S. Media Blackout: Italian Courts Rule Vaccines Cause ... 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/5430940
 On September 23, 2014, an Italian court in Milan awarded compensation to a boy 
for vaccine-induced autism. (See the Italian document here.) A childhood 
vaccine agai...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Put him in the drunk tank down in the dungeon.

On 04/21/2015 11:08 AM, salyavin808 wrote:



Contemptible and stupid. Didn't realise it was so apt actually.

But the fact that it also refers to drunkenness may explain a lot of 
his behaviour. Maybe he drinks a bottle of scotch, types endless 
drivel about things he knows nothing about on the internet and then 
forgets all about it until the next day



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

are you using that term tosspot in the contemptible and stupid sense 
or the drunkard sense?

Had to look that one up, you know.

*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

*From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive 
informal fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a 
red herring which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently 
qualities of another, merely by an irrelevant association. The two 
types are sometimes referred to as guilt by association.


Apparently you are still a thick twat.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eye-Talians and Vaccines

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Apparently you have just exhibited a confirmation bias. 

This refers to a type of selective thinking whereby one tends to notice and to 
look for what confirms one's beliefs, and to ignore, not look for, or 
undervalue the relevance of what contradicts one's beliefs.

Italian court says vaccines cause autism – wrong

Italian court says vaccines cause autism – wrong 
http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/mmr-vaccines-do-not-cause-autism/
 
 
 
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 Italian court says vaccines cause autism – wrong 
http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/mmr-vaccines-do-not-cause-autism/
 Updated 12 April 2015. So, here we ago again with the trope that courts 
confirm that vaccines cause autism. It all started when I saw a Facebook meme 
(t...
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 U.S. Media Blackout: Italian Courts Rule Vaccines Cause Autism 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/5430940
  
  
 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/5430940
  
  
  
  
  
 U.S. Media Blackout: Italian Courts Rule Vaccines Cause ... 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/5430940
 On September 23, 2014, an Italian court in Milan awarded compensation to a boy 
for vaccine-induced autism. (See the Italian document here.) A childhood 
vaccine agai...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Liberate Yourself

2015-04-21 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Huffington Post article (Liberate Yourself: Develop a Healthy Ego Through 
Meditation) from back in 2011 touting the benefits of TM. I don't think it's 
been mentioned on FFL before . . . 
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-and-ego_b_1032259.html?ref=tw
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-and-ego_b_1032259.html?ref=tw



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Liberate Yourself

2015-04-21 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is an excellent article.  Some members of this forum should read this to 
check their own attitudes and motivations regarding meditation and other 
matters. 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Huffington Post article (Liberate Yourself: Develop a Healthy Ego Through 
Meditation) from back in 2011 touting the benefits of TM. I don't think it's 
been mentioned on FFL before . . . 
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-and-ego_b_1032259.html?ref=tw
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-and-ego_b_1032259.html?ref=tw






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberate Yourself

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jesus - an article by a long term TM'er suggesting TM creates HEALTHY egos 
Ever been around Big Bopper Bevan? Chris Crowell? Neil Patterson? Or that most 
ego centric TM'er of all, Marshy the Big Liar?

  From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:54 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberate Yourself
   
    This is an excellent article.  Some members of this forum should read this 
to check their own attitudes and motivations regarding meditation and other 
matters.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

Huffington Post article (Liberate Yourself: Develop a Healthy Ego Through 
Meditation) from back in 2011 touting the benefits of TM. I don't think it's 
been mentioned on FFL before . . . 
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[FairfieldLife] US weighs crackdown on homeopathic remedies over 'significant safety issues

2015-04-21 Thread eustace10679
The Guardian - US healthcare

Hearings to conclude on Tuesday into whether reported concerns including loss 
of sense of smell are cause for greater regulation of booming industry
Homeopathic remedies

[Homeopathic remedies typically contain highly diluted concentrations of their 
active ingredient, leading critics to claim they are little more than sugar 
pills. Photograph: Peter Macdiarmid/Getty Images]

Rory Carroll in Los Angeles
Tuesday 21 April 2015 08.57 EDT
Last modified on Tuesday 21 April 2015 09.14 EDT

Sceptics consider homeopathy a joke, a bogus science that belongs in a 
punchline, not a pharmacy – but US government regulators are suddenly taking it 
seriously.

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is holding public hearings this week 
to explore whether it should toughen oversight of what has become a 
controversial, billion-dollar branch of the healthcare industry.

Critics have long called for greater scrutiny and regulation of homeopathic 
remedies that make bold healing claims and and fill pharmacy shelves alongside 
conventional drugs.

“I hesitate to call these remedies ‘drugs’. They’re mostly sugar pills,” said 
Jim Underdown, the executive director of the Los Angeles branch of the Center 
for Inquiry, a nonprofit that advocates secularism and science, and made a 
presentation to the FDA panel on Monday. “People seem to think they actually 
have medicinal value, but all the science points to that not being true.”

The FDA invited consumers, patients, caregivers, healthcare professionals and 
industry groups, among others, to make oral and written submissions “about the 
current use of human drug and biological products labeled as homeopathic”, as 
well as the agency’s regulatory framework for such products.

The hearings, held in Silver Spring, Maryland, conclude on Tuesday. They offer 
a rare official forum for advocates and foes, and some who hold a halfway 
position, to argue over a fast-growing industry. In 2007, according to a 
Centers for Disease Control survey, 3.3 million Americans spent $2.9bn on 
homeopathic treatments.

Homeopathy, pioneered in the 18th century by German physician Samuel Hahnemann, 
operates on the basis that “like cures like” – that heavily diluted versions of 
substances which cause ailments can cure the same ailments.

Under current FDA enforcement policies, issued in a 1988 policy guide, 
homeopathic remedies can reach pharmacy shelves without official safety and 
efficacy evaluation.

The agency is now reviewing that policy in light of the “dramatic increase in 
the homeopathic product marketplace over the last 25 years”, it said in an 
emailed statement.

Another factor was concern about “significant safety issues” in recent years, 
including more than 130 reports of loss of sense of smell associated with the 
use of three over-the-counter cold remedies, and a warning about Hyland’s 
Teething Tablets because of inconsistent levels of belladonna.

A third reason, said the FDA statement, was availability of more scientific 
data. Studies in Australia, Britain and the United States have found little 
evidence that homeopathic remedies work.

In a submission on Monday, Adriane Fugh‐Berman, associate professor of 
pharmacology and physiology at Georgetown University medical center, said 
classical homeopathy, which seeks to match a patient’s ailment with a single, 
personalised remedy, should not be a regulatory concern.

However, most remedies were pre-mixed and sold over the counter to consumers 
who often confused them with dietary supplements and conventional medicine, she 
said. “The dangers of selling prescription drugs as homeopathic remedies are 
obvious. Allowing homeopathic remedies to sit side‐by‐side with conventional 
drugs that have undergone FDA scrutiny as over‐the‐counter drugs is inherently 
misleading.”

Luana Colloca, an associate professor in anaesthesiology at the University of 
Maryland, speaking to the Guardian after she addressed the panel, said she did 
not favour homeopathic remedies for serious diseases but said they “could be 
acceptable” for minor ailments, even if any benefit was “probably” just a 
placebo effect.

Colloca said lack of dialogue between the pro- and anti-homeopathy camps 
hindered patient awareness of best treatment options. “I think integration of 
the two systems could be very helpful for the patients.”

Homeopathy representatives defended their industry and the existing 
regulations, saying there was no need for a dramatic shakeup.

“Consumers most likely to buy homeopathic medicines are committed to their 
health and devote considerable research effort in evaluating healthcare 
choices,” said an American Association of Homeopathic Pharmacists submission.

“Consumers who have used homeopathic medicines highly trust their prescribing 
physician because of their personal experience, the safety profile, the low 
cost of the medicine and the consistent quality of homeopathic products,” said 
Lisa Amerine, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
he might just be drunk on his own foolishness

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 2:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...
   
    
Contemptible and stupid. Didn't realise it was so apt actually.
But the fact that it also refers to drunkenness may explain a lot of his 
behaviour. Maybe he drinks a bottle of scotch, types endless drivel about 
things he knows nothing about on the internet and then forgets all about it 
until the next day



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

are you using that term tosspot in the contemptible and stupid sense or the 
drunkard sense?
Had to look that one up, you know. 
  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive informal 
fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a red herring 
which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, 
merely by an irrelevant association. The two types are sometimes referred to as 
guilt by association.  
Apparently you are still a thick twat.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 Apparently you've just posted a fundamental attribution error, as it is 
impossible to know the real traits of an individual solely from their birth 
circumstances.

 From: salyavin808 sa...@yahoogroups.com
 
 And you can't argue with the science. I shall reassume my ignoration of the 
Texan tosspot. 

 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :


 Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive informal 
fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a red herring 
which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, 
merely by an irrelevant association. The two types are sometimes referred to as 
guilt by association. 


 



  
  














  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Why do all your solutions seem to involve forms of sadism, deprivation, 
isolation, and control?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Put him in the drunk tank down in the dungeon.
 
 On 04/21/2015 11:08 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   
 
 Contemptible and stupid. Didn't realise it was so apt actually.
 
 
 But the fact that it also refers to drunkenness may explain a lot of his 
behaviour. Maybe he drinks a bottle of scotch, types endless drivel about 
things he knows nothing about on the internet and then forgets all about it 
until the next day
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote :
 
 are you using that term tosspot in the contemptible and stupid sense or the 
drunkard sense?

 
 Had to look that one up, you know. 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...
 
 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
richard@... mailto:richard@... wrote :
 
 Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive informal 
fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a red herring 
which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, 
merely by an irrelevant association. The two types are sometimes referred to as 
guilt by association.  
 
 
 Apparently you are still a thick twat.
 

 







 Science Says You Should Ignore Internet Trolls
 
 
 And you can't argue with the science. I shall reassume my ignoration of the 
Texan tosspot.
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: sanskrit fever

2015-04-21 Thread aryavazhi
I saw this on FB too. What's written on page 14 then?
http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/1/1 
http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/1/1 
http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/14/1 
http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/14/1 MAIL 
TODAY http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/15/1 
 
 http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/15/1 
 
 MAIL TODAY 
http://epaper.mailtoday.in/480079/mt/Mail-Today-April-15-2015#page/15/1 MAIL 
TODAY is a compact morning daily. It marries the credibility and authenticity 
of the India Today Group with the international standards of Daily Mail of...
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive informal 
fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a red herring 
which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, 
merely by an irrelevant association. The two types are sometimes referred to as 
guilt by association.  
 

 Apparently you are still a thick twat.
 









 Science Says You Should Ignore Internet Trolls 
http://time.com/3827683/internet-troll-research/?xid=IFT-Trending
 

 And you can't argue with the science. I shall reassume my ignoration of the 
Texan tosspot.
 

 
 
 
 http://time.com/3827683/internet-troll-research/?xid=IFT-Trending 
 
 Science Says You Should Ignore Internet Trolls 
http://time.com/3827683/internet-troll-research/?xid=IFT-Trending A new 
algorithm can predict Internet irritants with 80% accuracy
 
 
 
 View on time.com 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Spontaneous Right Action...

2015-04-21 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Apparently you have just posted a non sequitur.  An inference or conclusion 
that does not follow from the premises or evidence.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sa...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Apparently you are still a thick twat.

 Thanks for proving my argument, but I already told you I'm not gay. Thanks for 
proving my point about you trying to drive off all the women on this forum with 
your cunt slurs. 

The question is, why would someone purporting to be a science-writer have to 
resort to posting non sequiturs just to win a religious debate?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Apparently you've just posted an association fallacy; an inductive informal 
fallacy of the type hasty generalization. Sometimes called a red herring 
which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, 
merely by an irrelevant association. The two types are sometimes referred to as 
guilt by association.  
 

 The question is, why would you post a fallacy just to win a religious debate? 
Go figure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sal...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 

 Surprisingly loathsome TM poster boy Rupert Murdoch shows just how effective 
and compassionate a thinker TM can make you. 
 

 Murdoch berated Sun journalists for not doing enough to attack Miliband 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html

 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 
 Murdoch berated Sun journalists for not doing en... 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/rupert-murdoch-berated-sun-journalists-for-not-doing-enough-to-attack-ed-miliband-10191005.html
 Rupert Murdoch berated journalists on his tabloid papers for not doing enough 
to stop Labour winning the general election and warned them that the futu...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Eye-Talians and Vaccines

2015-04-21 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
People are told daily in scientific articles to be careful about what 
they put in their bodies when they eat.  Then they are told to allow 
whatever big pharma deems profitable with a vaccine, to be injected into 
their body.  You can see why a growing segment of society is questioning 
vaccines. OTOH, I am amused at the segment, usually people who consider 
themselves liberal, are instant doctors when it comes to the issue 
of being pro vaccine.  These are sometimes the same people who question 
contradictory nutritional claims by scientists.


On 04/21/2015 08:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
U.S. Media Blackout: Italian Courts Rule Vaccines Cause Autism 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/5430940 



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On September 23, 2014, an Italian court in Milan awarded compensation 
to a boy for vaccine-induced autism. (See the Italian document here.) 
A childhood vaccine agai...


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