date:20151005

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-05 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yes, Ann, that's kind of how I feel.  I see and work with these folks who are 
sort of on the fringes, and I cannot find it in me to judge them.  In fact, 
they are my friends, and I socialize with them, much more than anyone who might 
be more in my income class. 

 When I have extra tickets to a ballgame,or or a sporting event it is they whom 
I invite.
 

 You get a realness, not found in other circles, and what they want out of life 
is the same as everyone else.
 

 Of course there are the so called "bad apples" in any class, but that's not 
who I find in my interactions, except on rare occasions.
 

 What is missing, is what Emily mentioned by way of lack of economic 
opportunity since the manufacturing jobs that once were the mainstay of those 
less educated have gone overseas.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 

 You know, compared to what taxpayers are paying for military expenditures, not 
to mention a whole schwack of other things that I am sure are not only wasteful 
but redundant, social programs and government subsidies to the poor or even 
physically challenged are mere peanuts. I never think about my tax dollars and 
whether some welfare recipient is living off my dime. It doesn't really work 
like that. I mean, I could say I resent paying school taxes because I don't 
have any kids so why should I pay? Stupid thought, stupid question.
 

 Take a look at how much is spent on SS payments. Aren't these a kind of social 
safety net/aid for retired workers, even though workers pay into the system 
during their working lives? I mean, it is still a program instituted and 
subsidized by the Government, it is a social program of sorts. 
 

 Every tax we pay goes toward, presumably, running this country, either through 
the construction of roads or the running of schools and a million other ways. 
Why pick on one sector, the unemployed or poor, who also benefit from 
government money? We're all being "helped" by everyone's tax dollars. 
 

 http://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go 
http://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go

[FairfieldLife] Military Methods to Conquer Fear

2015-10-05 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

They include a breathing technique and meditation.  But the article doesn't 
mention what type of meditation. 
 

 

 8 Military-Tested Tricks to Conquer Your Greatest Fears 
https://www.yahoo.com/makers/ss/8-military-tested-tricks-conquer-232315100/photo-keep-pushing-your-comfort-zone-1444086992834.html

 
 
 
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 8 Military-Tested Tricks to Conquer Your Greatest Fears 
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 By: Joe Oliveto Franklin Delano Roosevelt was an ignoramus. I should probably 
explain that. Sure, he was a stellar president, but he also said some...
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Controversy at the Synod

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 All this discussion merely corroborates that people here on FFL have no actual 
experience about the reality of celibate life among Catholic monastics or among 
the Jesuits - who are the Pope's "SS" (Stutzstaffel).
 

 Fer sure, Empty ol' bean. I'm not a celibate or a Catholic monastic - thank my 
good sense or maybe even God for that. 

In truth, you all don't have a clue.
However, for what it is worth, it is actually more sordid than you know.
 

 If buggering, sodomy, sex with young 'uns, nuns or sheep is "sordid" then I 
think I have a pretty good idea. I'm not sure anything you could tell me about 
this, in all of your wisdom, could shock me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Controversy at the Synod

2015-10-05 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

All this discussion merely corroborates that people here on FFL have no actual 
experience about the reality of celibate life among Catholic monastics or among 
the Jesuits - who are the Pope's "SS" (Stutzstaffel).

In truth, you all don't have a clue.
However, for what it is worth, it is actually more sordid than you know.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Physician Assisted Suicide is Now Legal in California

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Ann,

This law is also fraught with controversy. It's a tough question to answer.
But I used to work with a lady in Seattle WA whose mother became suddenly sick.
I naively recommended to her that the mother take up Maharishi's sound
therapy. Later, I found out that the mother died after she decided NOT to eat.
Can you imagine that?

Yes I can. My father did the same thing when he realized he was going to die.
He simply told us he was ready and he refused food and water until he died
three days later in his bed at home. He died of esophageal cancer hastened by
his desire to stop providing sustenance for his ailing body. He was ready and
willing and did it his way - there were no drugs involved to hurry up the
process.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Governor Jerry Brown signed the bill today. He was once a seminarian for the
Catholic Church. And, do you think this is good or bad for the collective
consciousness of the state?

I don't know about the "collective consciousness" but it is a pretty good deal
for those who are nearing the end of a life that might be fraught with constant
pain, fear and decrepitude while in the throes of a terminal disease. So many
hospice patients are already euthanized, quietly and discreetly with
ever-increasing amounts of IV narcotics, all this really does is take the onus
off others who may not want to actually play an active role in assisting these
people to die a few days or weeks earlier than they might if left to linger
until the bitter (or sweet) end.

California governor signs bill legalizing physician-assisted suicide
http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-physician-assisted-suicide-195845342.html

http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-physician-assisted-suicide-195845342.html

California governor signs bill legalizing physician-assi...
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By Sharon Bernstein SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - Physician-assisted suicide
will become legal in California under a bill signed into law on Monday ...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: How's Meditating Fairfield, Iowa Doing?

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In life most people are not able to have more than one home at a time. Most 
those who are here in the meditating community now are not going to just up and 
move away. A lot have come to Fairfield and some lot of meditators haven't left 
Fairfield regardless what bad the behavior the movement has been up to at 
times. 
  
 Most of the deeper erosion (attrition) happened back in the 1990's. Since then 
its been a smaller chronic or endemic attrition for various reasons, some usual 
reasons around money, sex, or differentials of inclusion or exclusivity, 
including the ongoing reigns of terror excluding people from the communal group 
meditation by administration.  
 

 And yet people move back to Fairfield to be in the meditating community.  
Housing is kind of tight right now with people, young and old, returning.  But 
still the larger portion of meditators lives on in town [Fairfield] or the 
County [Jefferson] outside of contact with the organized or formal movement on 
campus or with the Global Country of World Peace hold up out in M. Vedic City 
to the edge of Fairfield proper.\
 

 One thing for sure, real estate there is preposterously affordable. I could 
buy a veritable mansion there for the median price of a house in Victoria 
which, at the present moment, averages $607K. And FF has some wonderful old 
wood framed homes with wonderful interior wood detailing and stained glass 
windows. And the neighborhoods are classic old-school American with their 
sidewalks, mature landscaping and tree-lined streets. I could easily bypass the 
Vastu housing which I recall is probably over priced anyway although some of 
the examples I have seen online are quite gorgeous. If I did go Vastu I would 
make sure to include the south facing door though - no, make that two south 
facing doors.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Okay, right now I am doing a rather large project, which is somewhat labor 
intensive, so I've needed workers including friends of one of my regular 
workers, and the brother of my assistant.  They are all being paid well, which 
they greatly appreciate, as would anyone, of course. 

 But driving them back and forth to the job, I find the conversation 
fascinating.
 

 The brother of my assistant is around 20, and he is not able to leave for work 
until 9:00 as he is under house arrest for having a firearm while he was on 
probation for something else.  His girlfriend is 20 years old and has three 
kids.  I can't remember what he said when he was asked how many baby daddies 
there were.
 

 My main worker recently left his girlfriend who has five kids, at least three 
of whom are with different daddies. And he has his own kids.  She was recently 
pregnant with his child, but he said something to the effect that she induced 
an abortion.
 

 I admit, none of it bothers me one bit.  I find it rather fascinating.  Yes, I 
know, I am paying (indirectly) for many of these benefits, but they all have a 
lot of street smarts and overall smarts.  They are working hard on this job and 
we are having pretty much fun, as it has gone well so far, and may continue for 
several more weeks.
 

 You know, compared to what taxpayers are paying for military expenditures, not 
to mention a whole schwack of other things that I am sure are not only wasteful 
but redundant, social programs and government subsidies to the poor or even 
physically challenged are mere peanuts. I never think about my tax dollars and 
whether some welfare recipient is living off my dime. It doesn't really work 
like that. I mean, I could say I resent paying school taxes because I don't 
have any kids so why should I pay? Stupid thought, stupid question.
 

 Take a look at how much is spent on SS payments. Aren't these a kind of social 
safety net/aid for retired workers, even though workers pay into the system 
during their working lives? I mean, it is still a program instituted and 
subsidized by the Government, it is a social program of sorts. 
 

 Every tax we pay goes toward, presumably, running this country, either through 
the construction of roads or the running of schools and a million other ways. 
Why pick on one sector, the unemployed or poor, who also benefit from 
government money? We're all being "helped" by everyone's tax dollars. 
 

 http://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go 
http://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Physician Assisted Suicide is Now Legal in California

2015-10-05 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Ann,

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Governor Jerry Brown signed the bill today. He was once a seminarian for the
Catholic Church. And, do you think this is good or bad for the collective
consciousness of the state?

California governor signs bill legalizing physician-assisted suicide
http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-physician-assisted-suicide-195845342.html

http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-physician-assisted-suicide-195845342.html

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Controversy at the Synod

2015-10-05 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

S3, 

 You chose your words well to describe his position.  If I may add, he was also 
"flaunting" his secret life for the world to see.  Needless to say, he already 
knew that he'd be immediately fired as a teacher and theologian of the church.  
 Further, why did he enter the priesthood in the first place?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this case the issue of homosexuality is a red herring. To be a Catholic 
priest is to take a vow of celibacy. As this tiresome exhibitionist is openly 
cavorting with his lover - and wants to get married - he clearly hasn't the 
vocation for the role he is in. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When a Catholic priest at the Vatican announced that he is gay last week, I 
thought he was a fool, considering that he was wearing the black clothes worn 
by Christian renunciates and that he'd gone through much training and education 
to be in his position.  But today I just realized that his announcement was an 
act of defiance of the Church teachings.  Thus, the opening of the Synod began 
with a loud bang.
 

 Do you think gay priests, from any denomination, should be allowed to lead a 
religious community?
 

 Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy overshadows synod 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html
 
 Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy... 
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 Pope Francis on Monday urged the Catholic Church to "move forward" as a review 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How's Meditating Fairfield, Iowa Doing?

2015-10-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

In life most people are not able to have more than one home at a time. Most
those who are here in the meditating community now are not going to just up and
move away. A lot have come to Fairfield and some lot of meditators haven't left
Fairfield regardless what bad the behavior the movement has been up to at
times.

Most of the deeper erosion (attrition) happened back in the 1990's. Since then
its been a smaller chronic or endemic attrition for various reasons, some usual
reasons around money, sex, or differentials of inclusion or exclusivity,
including the ongoing reigns of terror excluding people from the communal group
meditation by administration.

And yet people move back to Fairfield to be in the meditating community.
Housing is kind of tight right now with people, young and old, returning. But
still the larger portion of meditators lives on in town [Fairfield] or the
County [Jefferson] outside of contact with the organized or formal movement on
campus or with the Global Country of World Peace hold up out in M. Vedic City
to the edge of Fairfield proper.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

There are several elements to the 40 year old Fairfield meditating community
that will allow it to endure here longer. Fairfield is still a nice place to
meditate and live, regardless of how folks feel about the ongoing nature of the
Raja movement. However it would be better for everyone, the Raja movement
itself, if the TM movement would better behave itself within conscience of its
own ethical behavior. As has been looked at here before, ethical behavior is
evidently a “leading economic indicator”. Attending fast as they can now to
that they should need to better look at themselves inside as others may see
them. “Change begins within”, as they say. That change in the Raja movement may
shortly very well be about their own survival. Yes, Fairfield will go on.
Fairfield regardless is still a real nice place to meditate, and live.
-JaiGuruYou

It is a cute little town which I always enjoyed while I was a student there
and after, when I moved back for a year to start a horseback riding program for
the students and faculty off campus. I totally "get" the appeal because it is a
small, walkable community with many people who have a few fundamental things in
common. The weather is a bit of a drag in the winters, though, and the distance
from a city bigger than Iowa City is a kind of a drag and it is in the Midwest
which I can do without having lived in Chicago twice in my life. Being very
active in my sport means I would be too far geopgraphically from serious
competition and the fact that I love Victoria and Canada, for that matter,
pretty much rules out returning to FF to ever live again. Oh, and other than
the small detail that I don't meditate and am not into any other alternate
therapies or systems of which there seems to be an awful lot of there, I might
just fit in fine.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

That's interesting. I have a friend on the East Coast who wants to move back
here within the next couple of years. Former MUM student. She visited with her
daughter a while back. The daughter has no interest in moving here because
"it's all old people." I think she has a point. This community is not renewing
itself, and time will soon wipe us out. I give Fairfield another 25 years or so
as an eclectic spiritual center; after that almost all the people who make this
place tick will be dead or demented, and Fairfield will bit by bit revert to
its former status as an unremarkable small town in the Midwest. The University
might stagger on for a bit longer, but neither MUM nor MSAE have any money, so
I do not see a bright future for them.

That all sounds about right but I'd give it 15 years, not 25.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I just returned from a scholar's conference on Communal Societies. Spent the
past week traveling to the Lexington, Ky area for the annual meeting of the
Communal Studies Association. http://www.communalstudies.org/
http://www.communalstudies.org/

The conference is three days of scholarly papers on groups like ours here in
Fairfield, Iowa multiple sessions with papers being delivered on 20 minute
intervals. 2015 Paper schedule:
http://www.communalstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Pleasant-Hill-Program-12-Sept-15.pdf

http://www.communalstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Pleasant-Hill-Program-12-Sept-15.pdf

They host their annual meetings at historic sites of communal societies. This
year their conference was at the historic Shaker village of Pleasant Hill. The
historic site at Pleasant Hill is of a historic ashram-like spiritual group
with many features similar to our own here in Fairfield, Iowa.
http://shakervillageky.org/ http://shakervillageky

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-05 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Okay, right now I am doing a rather large project, which is somewhat labor 
intensive, so I've needed workers including friends of one of my regular 
workers, and the brother of my assistant.  They are all being paid well, which 
they greatly appreciate, as would anyone, of course. 

 But driving them back and forth to the job, I find the conversation 
fascinating.
 

 The brother of my assistant is around 20, and he is not able to leave for work 
until 9:00 as he is under house arrest for having a firearm while he was on 
probation for something else.  His girlfriend is 20 years old and has three 
kids.  I can't remember what he said when he was asked how many baby daddies 
there were.
 

 My main worker recently left his girlfriend who has five kids, at least three 
of whom are with different daddies. And he has his own kids.  She was recently 
pregnant with his child, but he said something to the effect that she induced 
an abortion.
 

 I admit, none of it bothers me one bit.  I find it rather fascinating.  Yes, I 
know, I am paying (indirectly) for many of these benefits, but they all have a 
lot of street smarts and overall smarts.  They are working hard on this job and 
we are having pretty much fun, as it has gone well so far, and may continue for 
several more weeks.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Back at that time, there was a stigma attached to having children out of 
wedlock. There was a shame factor to deal with. Now it's just the opposite. Now 
you are the baby daddy or the baby mamma and get all kinds of positive 
attention. We aren't supposed to be *judgmental*but supportive, in order to 
raise the self esteem of the parents and the children. Seems nice enough but 
how's it working? Seems to be having a snowball effect.
 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 10:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
 
 
   

 This song was released in 1968.  At that time, I guess it was still the 
exception rather than the rule to have a child out of wedlock.  I would say it 
is totally reversed now, and I am in agreement that the outcomes are far less 
favorable. I don't know what the percentage was then, but I know the percentage 
in the black community is about 70% and then lower for other ethnic groups
 

 Diana Ross & The Supremes-Love Child 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rntxzyRt9UQ 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rntxzyRt9UQ
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Most people do and want to contribute and always have.  And Yes, I may be 
somewhat idealistic but it wasn't that long ago that most people had children 
after they married. Now, times have changed, many, especially among feminist, 
seem to think marriage or even having a man in the house isn't necessary to 
have a family. We have all these wonderful social programs to make up the 
difference. Except a high percentage of those kids grow up troubled without the 
traditional authority figures in a home.
 

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 9:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
 
 
   Your first point is an idealistic, not a realistic viewpoint.  As long as 
humans procreate and follow their hormonal urges, babies will be born.  That's 
just the way it is.  Planning, higher education and a learned skill prior to 
starting a family is a great idea and I'm all for it, but it's just not going 
to be the case for all.  You can't legislate life, after all.  Should the 
children born of children and the poor not merit the same care and attention 
and value of those born to career couples?  Society has a responsibility for 
its members.  Humans are social creatures.  The idea that there is some large 
population "getting by on charity" by choice is a perpetrated myth - no one 
wants to be in that position.  Most people want to contribute, want to work, 
want to be educated, want to be valued. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better option is, don't start a family until *you* can provide a complete 
and adequate living for all of those that  *you* are responsible for. That 
usually starts with good planning along with a higher education and/or learned 
skill. If people ever developed the attitude that nobody owes them anything, 
everybody would be better off and a lot of problems could be prevented in the 
first place. Hayam Dhukam Anagatam. Avoid the suffering before it comes! If you 
are prepared to go through life depending on charity to get by, then you should 
to be prepared for the worst and hope for the better. Maharishi used to say 
*Deserve then desire*.BTW, that was

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Physician Assisted Suicide is Now Legal in California

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Governor Jerry Brown signed the bill today.  He was once a seminarian for the 
Catholic Church.  And, do you think this is good or bad for the collective 
consciousness of the state?
 

 I don't know about the "collective consciousness" but it is a pretty good deal 
for those who are nearing the end of a life that might be fraught with constant 
pain, fear and decrepitude while in the throes of a terminal disease. So many 
hospice patients are already euthanized, quietly and discreetly with 
ever-increasing amounts of IV narcotics, all this really does is take the onus 
off others who may not want to actually play an active role in assisting these 
people to die a few days or weeks earlier than they might if left to linger 
until the bitter (or sweet) end.
 

 California governor signs bill legalizing physician-assisted suicide 
http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-physician-assisted-suicide-195845342.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-physician-assisted-suicide-195845342.html
 
 California governor signs bill legalizing physician-assi... 
http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-physician-assisted-suicide-195845342.html
 By Sharon Bernstein SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - Physician-assisted suicide 
will become legal in California under a bill signed into law on Monday ...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How's Meditating Fairfield, Iowa Doing?

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

That all sounds about right but I'd give it 15 years, not 25.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

http://www.communalstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Pleasant-Hill-Program-12-Sept-15.pdf

About 130 association members came to this years conference. Lot of the
scholars teach at the university level who use the Communal Studies Association
to be able to present papers in conference or publish in the association's
journal. Also there were papers given by people who live in communal groups of
various types.

I've been attending these conferences for a number of years now. Most all the
papers are interesting and relevant to Fairfield in some way by comparison as
criticism. I always go away from these conferences with relevant things that I
will think about for the following year.

I have gone enough times to their annual conference that folks in this
association know me as the person from Fairfield, Iowa and folks at the
conference will then often ask me in conversation how it is going for the
meditating group here?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Controversy at the Synod

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this case the issue of homosexuality is a red herring. To be a Catholic 
priest is to take a vow of celibacy. As this tiresome exhibitionist is openly 
cavorting with his lover - and wants to get married - he clearly hasn't the 
vocation for the role he is in. 

 No, but he apparently wants to make a point. The point most likely is: the 
Catholic church is stuffy and behind the times and he wants to go out with a 
statement. Good for him.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When a Catholic priest at the Vatican announced that he is gay last week, I 
thought he was a fool, considering that he was wearing the black clothes worn 
by Christian renunciates and that he'd gone through much training and education 
to be in his position.  But today I just realized that his announcement was an 
act of defiance of the Church teachings.  Thus, the opening of the Synod began 
with a loud bang.
 

 Do you think gay priests, from any denomination, should be allowed to lead a 
religious community?
 

 Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy overshadows synod 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html

 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Controversy at the Synod

2015-10-05 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

In this case the issue of homosexuality is a red herring. To be a Catholic 
priest is to take a vow of celibacy. As this tiresome exhibitionist is openly 
cavorting with his lover - and wants to get married - he clearly hasn't the 
vocation for the role he is in. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When a Catholic priest at the Vatican announced that he is gay last week, I 
thought he was a fool, considering that he was wearing the black clothes worn 
by Christian renunciates and that he'd gone through much training and education 
to be in his position.  But today I just realized that his announcement was an 
act of defiance of the Church teachings.  Thus, the opening of the Synod began 
with a loud bang.
 

 Do you think gay priests, from any denomination, should be allowed to lead a 
religious community?
 

 Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy overshadows synod 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html
 
 Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy... 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html
 Pope Francis on Monday urged the Catholic Church to "move forward" as a review 
of teaching on the family got under way amid unprecedented controversy o...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Physician Assisted Suicide is Now Legal in California

2015-10-05 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Governor Jerry Brown signed the bill today.  He was once a seminarian for the 
Catholic Church.  And, do you think this is good or bad for the collective 
consciousness of the state?
 

 California governor signs bill legalizing physician-assisted suicide 
http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-physician-assisted-suicide-195845342.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-physician-assisted-suicide-195845342.html
 
 
 California governor signs bill legalizing physician-assi... 
http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-bill-legalizing-physician-assisted-suicide-195845342.html
 By Sharon Bernstein SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - Physician-assisted suicide 
will become legal in California under a bill signed into law on Monday ...
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-05 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Out of wedlock births are definitely on the rise.  Here's an analysis of this: 
I don't get this journal so can't see the original.but here is the brief:
 

 *This Policy Brief was prepared for the Fall 1996 issue of the Brookings 
Review and adapted from "An Analysis of Out-of-Wedlock Childbearing in the 
United States," which appeared in the May 1996 issue of the Quarterly Journal 
of Economics.
 

 http://www.brookings.edu/research/papers/1996/08/childrenfamilies-akerlof 
http://www.brookings.edu/research/papers/1996/08/childrenfamilies-akerlof

 

 RE:  "Now, times have changed, many, especially among feminist, seem to think 
marriage or even having a man in the house isn't necessary to have a family. We 
have all these wonderful social programs to make up the difference. 

 I was questioning your assumption about what you think "feminists" are 
thinking.  That statement about translated to me as something you assume that 
"feminists" think. I figured that you had these "wonderful social programs" in 
mind - the ones that you think the "feminists" are hoping to replace the father 
with, when you said that.  

 

 

 

   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I think you missed the point. There is *no* social program that can make up 
for not having both parents to successfully raise a child.You wouldn't think 
that with an ever expanding welfare system and ever increasing out of wedlock 
birth rate, considering all of the various birth control  that is easily 
available. 
 

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 1:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
 
 
   What?!?  I am always wary of those who speak with much judgment about things 
they have no experience with. 
 

 Curiously, what social programs are you thinking of that make up the 
difference for an absent parent?  I'm talking about the ones that would service 
the "feminist" woman, who deceived the poor, hapless, male into donating his 
sperm or having sex with her, and then kicked him to the curb, thinking to 
herself, "I don't need himor his money..I have a "social program" I can 
depend on to make up the difference!"
 

 Kids do need a support network when growing up.  Have you thought about how 
you could help?  If you can't put yourself out there for "those people" on a 
personal level, perhaps you could work with Habitat for Humanity?  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Most people do and want to contribute and always have.  And Yes, I may be 
somewhat idealistic but it wasn't that long ago that most people had children 
after they married. Now, times have changed, many, especially among feminist, 
seem to think marriage or even having a man in the house isn't necessary to 
have a family. We have all these wonderful social programs to make up the 
difference. Except a high percentage of those kids grow up troubled without the 
traditional authority figures in a home.
 

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 9:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
 
 
   Your first point is an idealistic, not a realistic viewpoint.  As long as 
humans procreate and follow their hormonal urges, babies will be born.  That's 
just the way it is.  Planning, higher education and a learned skill prior to 
starting a family is a great idea and I'm all for it, but it's just not going 
to be the case for all.  You can't legislate life, after all.  Should the 
children born of children and the poor not merit the same care and attention 
and value of those born to career couples?  Society has a responsibility for 
its members.  Humans are social creatures.  The idea that there is some large 
population "getting by on charity" by choice is a perpetrated myth - no one 
wants to be in that position.  Most people want to contribute, want to work, 
want to be educated, want to be valued. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better option is, don't start a family until *you* can provide a complete 
and adequate living for all of those that  *you* are responsible for. That 
usually starts with good planning along with a higher education and/or learned 
skill. If people ever developed the attitude that nobody owes them anything, 
everybody would be better off and a lot of problems could be prevented in the 
first place. Hayam Dhukam Anagatam. Avoid the suffering before it comes! If you 
are prepared to go through life depending on charity to get by, then you should 
to be prepared for the worst and hope for the better. Maharishi used to say 
*Deserve then desire*.BTW, that was supposed to be frying *fries* not *fires*.

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
 
 
   Not sure what "fry fires" refers to, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: How's Meditating Fairfield, Iowa Doing?

2015-10-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

That all sounds about right but I'd give it 15 years, not 25.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

http://www.communalstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Pleasant-Hill-Program-12-Sept-15.pdf

Of course there are layers to answering this question. Well, on returning home
to Fairfield, Iowa from the CSA annual conference I drove in just in time for
the weekly shape note harmony sing in Fairfield. In the Sacred Harp tune book
there is a song titled, The Church's Desolation. The last verse of the text is
a pretty good paraphrased succinct description of 'how it is going' in
Fairfield for the contemporary meditating community. The Church's Desolation is
a real fine tune to sing by example of the genre with great harmony and
poignant narrative in the text. Verse 3, like meditating Fairfield, Iowa:

Some few, like good Elijah, stand
While thousands have revolted,
In earnest for the heav'nly land
They never yet have halted.
With such religion doth remain,
For they are not perverted;
O may they all through men regain

The glory that's departed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The '93-'94 Survey of Meditating Fairfield

2015-10-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

What was the “average age” of meditating community survey respondents, back in 
1993-4?
  Add 20 years to that now as an estimate now?  Link to the survey results 
below..
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, is a fair assessment about the Fairfield Mental Health Alliance in your 
comments below. Out of an upward pressure showcased through a more public 
discussion the Fairfield Mental Health Alliance helped the .org-movement from 
its highest levels be brought to change and incorporate a lot that is modern on 
this in there being places and appropriate need at times for modern mental 
health practices. The surveying has been extremely important in this process. 
There is still ongoing discussion and practical work in progress towards 
improving particular policy effects within the 'culture' of the TM movement 
around this.
 

 dhamiltony2k5writes,
 

 Yes, this larger survey is interesting base-line data on the larger meditating 
community in Fairfield from back when the meditating community and the Dome 
numbers were more around their peak as the long decline (attrition) was then 
ensuing. You can see the seeds and the consequent beginning of the cultivated 
socioeconomic exclusivity sprouting then and the administrative separation of 
meditators from membership in the group meditation over visiting saints and 
spiritual people that had started in the late 1980's and through the 1990's to 
present.
 

 Since the larger sample community survey of the early 1990's there have only 
been small sample surveys of sub-groups. In a way the recent book on Fairfield 
[How a New Age Movement Remade a Small Town in Iowa] by the journalist, Joseph 
Weber is a survey by extensive interviewing of the Fairfield meditating 
community that is current. A few years ago when there was such strife in the 
sustainable living students an interview survey was hired and conducted of the 
university SL students about their experience at the university. The results 
were presented to the administration and then defended against by the 
President. That survey and more recent surveying has been useful more recently 
in guiding some policy changes around the university and MSAE student life 
currently.
 

 While the progressive side of the TM movement has been methodically tracking 
metrics and hiring marketing surveying related to the teaching of meditation, 
there have not been broad surveying of the meditating community of the scale of 
the 1994 survey. That could proly be too frightening for some of the key 
patriarchs of old administration on watch of the movement to see.
 

 The closest thing to that kind of surveying would be a larger ongoing survey 
of collected first-person cases by a sub-committee of the Fairfield Mental 
Health Alliance compiling cases where people have felt their well-being was 
effected by their experience with the culture of the movement. There is a range 
and distribution to those collected cases which have clearly indicated areas 
for policy changes that could improve elements of culture and consequences in 
aspects of the movement. Elements of the movement are moving on some of this 
while some ideologues try to hold a dogmatic line against it. Having 
'data-points' has been extremely helpful towards seeing policy. There is a lot 
in process going on and things are also fluid.  -JaiGuruYou
 

 awoelflebater writes
 This last paragraph is enlightening. This Mental Health Alliance group is 
important, it seems and the data it could produce would/could address all sorts 
of aspects with regard to the socio-economic factors that may have resulted in 
damage to individuals coupled with its relationship to their 
involvement/participation in or practice of TM. In the sense that TM is 
supposed to factor into all aspects of one's life this mental health thing is 
relevant in perhaps revealing where the meditation technique might not measure 
up to its promise. Those in the meditating community in FF are often old 
timers, not only in their practice of TM but chronologically. The mere fact of 
the existence of the Mental Health Alliance is evidence of the need for 
psychiatric aid for those practicing TM. How could anyone in the Movement cling 
to dogma in the face of such a fact? Perhaps they require the attention of the 
professionals in the psychiatric department there. Rabid or avid denial is a 
form of aberrational behavior, is it not?
 

 awoelflebater writes: 
 This is interesting but 20 years old. Is there anything more recent to compare 
this to?
 

 FFL#420254Re: The '93-'94 Survey of Meditating Fairfield
 

 text of early 1990's survey report:
 Fairfield Life 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/420254 
 
 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/420254
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Controversy at the Synod

2015-10-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Of course, all of those priests molesting children were supposed to be 
celibate. I think from a legal point of view, the Catholic Church can't take 
the chance that their celibates are truly celibate.
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 4:14 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Controversy at the Synod
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

When a Catholic priest at the Vatican announced that he is gay last week, I 
thought he was a fool, considering that he was wearing the black clothes worn 
by Christian renunciates and that he'd gone through much training and education 
to be in his position.  But today I just realized that his announcement was an 
act of defiance of the Church teachings.  Thus, the opening of the Synod began 
with a loud bang.
Do you think gay priests, from any denomination, should be allowed to lead a 
religious community?
Of course. Being gay doesn't necessarily mean you aren't celebate. It just 
means you'd pick someone of your own sex over another gender if the opportunity 
for sex came up. Since Catholic priests are supposed to be celebate I think it 
is moot which gender they would prefer if it came right down to it. (smile)
Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy overshadows synod

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Controversy at the Synod

2015-10-05 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Ann, 

 That was pretty funny.  I had to reread what you wrote to understand what you 
meant.  But I was going to say you speak with a forked tongue. :)
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When a Catholic priest at the Vatican announced that he is gay last week, I 
thought he was a fool, considering that he was wearing the black clothes worn 
by Christian renunciates and that he'd gone through much training and education 
to be in his position.  But today I just realized that his announcement was an 
act of defiance of the Church teachings.  Thus, the opening of the Synod began 
with a loud bang.
 

 Do you think gay priests, from any denomination, should be allowed to lead a 
religious community?
 

 Of course. Being gay doesn't necessarily mean you aren't celebate. It just 
means you'd pick someone of your own sex over another gender if the opportunity 
for sex came up. Since Catholic priests are supposed to be celebate I think it 
is moot which gender they would prefer if it came right down to it. (smile)
 

 Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy overshadows synod 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ann I'll give you that approximately 50% of marriages end up in divorce. 
However, those children are more likely to have a court remedy in child support 
orders and even survivor benefits from SS, should one parent die.And at least 
they can be shuffled from one parent to the other or to grandparents etc. The 
*bastard* child, as you put it, has far less.The sociological studies I've 
seen, give a child raised by a single mother, a far greater chance of ending in 
trouble with the law(jail or prison) and never reaching their potential, than 
one raised by both parents. A mother's love rarely makes up for the discipline 
and guidance a male gets from his father or close male relative. Yes, of course 
a mother can be authoritarian but not usually as effective without the father 
to back her up. I saw a story a while back about young male elephants and how 
once they reached puberty, they began rampaging, bullying and being quite 
destructive around the cows and their very young, as well as other species such 
as Rhinoceros, even killing them. The game wardens took a bunch of these young 
upstarts and moved them away from the cows and in among a group of  mature 
adult male elephants. The older males read the younger ones the riot act very 
quickly and put them in the appropriate pecking order, subduing their hormones 
and consequent actions. The cows couldn't do that. A balanced order was 
achieved. Older males have a powerful affect over younger ones. Now consider 
that 70-80% of African/American males grow up in single mother households. 
White and Hispanics are *trying* to catch up to this stat but are less than 
half that. It's no wonder so many young black males end up in trouble

 with the law. This was not the case in the early or mid sixties when black 
families were much more stable.
 

 That'a interesting about the elephants because in the horse world the alpha 
mare(s) discipline the juveniles, not the stallion. The stallion will fight 
with competing or threatening males but they basically eat, poop and breed.

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 8:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Most people do and want to contribute and always have.  And Yes, I may be 
somewhat idealistic but it wasn't that long ago that most people had children 
after they married. Now, times have changed, many, especially among feminist, 
seem to think marriage or even having a man in the house isn't necessary to 
have a family. We have all these wonderful social programs to make up the 
difference. Except a high percentage of those kids grow up troubled without the 
traditional authority figures in a home.
 

 I think you are assuming too much, Mike. About 50% of marriages, whether the 
children were born before or after the nuptials, end in divorce. This means 
that children are then shuffled between two different parents and/or raised by 
at least one step parent or go to live either exclusively with one parent or 
another. Having "bastard" children is hardly the only reason for kids growing 
up "troubled without the traditional authority figures in a home." Of course, 
this lack of "authority" implies women aren't able to assume an authoritarian 
role as a parent, that you need a man. You can imagine what I think of that! LOL

[FairfieldLife] Re: How's Meditating Fairfield, Iowa Doing?

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

That all sounds about right but I'd give it 15 years, not 25.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

http://www.communalstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Pleasant-Hill-Program-12-Sept-15.pdf

The glory that's departed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gay Controversy at the Synod

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When a Catholic priest at the Vatican announced that he is gay last week, I 
thought he was a fool, considering that he was wearing the black clothes worn 
by Christian renunciates and that he'd gone through much training and education 
to be in his position.  But today I just realized that his announcement was an 
act of defiance of the Church teachings.  Thus, the opening of the Synod began 
with a loud bang.
 

 Do you think gay priests, from any denomination, should be allowed to lead a 
religious community?
 

 Of course. Being gay doesn't necessarily mean you aren't celebate. It just 
means you'd pick someone of your own sex over another gender if the opportunity 
for sex came up. Since Catholic priests are supposed to be celebate I think it 
is moot which gender they would prefer if it came right down to it. (smile)
 

 Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy overshadows synod 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html
 
 Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy... 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html
 Pope Francis on Monday urged the Catholic Church to "move forward" as a review 
of teaching on the family got under way amid unprecedented controversy o...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Black October??

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 10/05/2015 08:18 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 We don't have those kinds of winters any more. I'm serious. It's got milder. 
Yes, there are still some very cold days and nights, but they soon pass, and we 
don't get much snow. 
 
 
 I've gotten soft in my old age, Feste. Where I live now the coldest it gets is 
about 30F and that is rare. The average temperature in the winter is about 40F 
with rain and damp so it isn't exactly California but it is temperate and I 
don't need a face mask, ski goggles and moon boots to venture outside.




 
 I've also heard from aging Fairfielders who have moving to more southerly 
climes so as to avoid the Fairfield winters.  Gotta love the temperate Bay Area 
though but it's getting too expensive for many people to afford.
 
 My last winter in eastern Washington was in January of 1989 when the temps got 
down to below zero.  I had studded tires on as that was the only way I could 
even keep my FWD Subaru on the road.  In early January 1982 I had to drive from 
Seattle to Moscow, Idaho for a club gig.  There had been a blizzard.  I arrived 
in fine shape to play the gig that evening which didn't happen because the 
other band members had to turn back to get chains to make it over the pass.  My 
drive was amusing through roads with 2-3 foot snow drifts on the side.
 
 Sometimes when Seattle would get bad snow storms I would be among the few 
driving around and most all the cars were Subarus.  Seattle and Victoria snow 
can be treacherous though, because it is usually a tad slushy and much more 
slippery than colder snows. I remember careening around Victoria all cocky in 
one of the first snows I drove in there and almost went up on the side walk.  
Some good friends in Colorado had their Subaru for years and they lived in the 
snowy mountains with quite a climb to their Snowmass home. My VW Golf is great 
in the snow, especially since it is a stick (standard). 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 
 Fairfield, Iowa is a great place to weather bad times.  That is, to sit them 
out. Certainly Sell your belongings now while they are worth something and move 
yourself to Fairfield. 
 Come in out of the weather and anchor your Self in these deep transcendent 
waters of the cove that is Fairfield, Iowa.   Act fast, before it is too late? 
Did you read about that freighter that foundered out in 100 mile an hour 
weather and 40 foot waves last week in that storm off our coasts?  -JaiGuruYou
 

 Heh, the last time I lived in FF the snow was up to my tits, there was no 
heating oil at MIU, ! the wind chill was enough to freeze the tip of your nose 
off in 20 seconds walking to the cafeteria where we had to eat off of paper 
plates because there was no hot water to wash the real dishes. I'd rather lose 
all my money in the stock market then experience that again; and winter is 
coming, dear boy.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:hepa7@... wrote :
 
 Money and Markets
 
 
 
 
 Money and Markets The Final Reckoning: BLACK OCTOBER 2015 The Beginning of The 
End Dear Investor, You awake to shocking news. The investors Washington counts 
on for loans have snapped their wallets shut.


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Black October??

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm out in the weather all the time.  It ain't that bad most of the time any 
more.  I agree with Feste. Seems that winters are not like winters that I grew 
up with here in Iowa before climate change set in.  Regardless, you just got to 
have good clothes for it.  I like the changing seasons and weather.  It gives 
us all something to talk about, at least.  "Too hot, too cold, too wet, too 
dry.. Damn hot or damn cold."  and then it changes.   It is life.  The Tao is.  

 

 Hold on, I see snow on your hat. Still too cold (although I love snow). Is 
that you Doug?
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We don't have those kinds of winters any more. I'm serious. It's got milder. 
Yes, there are still some very cold days and nights, but they soon pass, and we 
don't get much snow. 
 

 I've gotten soft in my old age, Feste. Where I live now the coldest it gets is 
about 30F and that is rare. The average temperature in the winter is about 40F 
with rain and damp so it isn't exactly California but it is temperate and I 
don't need a face mask, ski goggles and moon boots to venture outside.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Fairfield, Iowa is a great place to weather bad times.  That is, to sit them 
out. Certainly Sell your belongings now while they are worth something and move 
yourself to Fairfield. 
 

 Come in out of the weather and anchor your Self in these deep transcendent 
waters of the cove that is Fairfield, Iowa.   Act fast, before it is too late? 
Did you read about that freighter that foundered out in 100 mile an hour 
weather and 40 foot waves last week in that storm off our coasts?  -JaiGuruYou
 

 Heh, the last time I lived in FF the snow was up to my tits, there was no 
heating oil at MIU, the wind chill was enough to freeze the tip of your nose 
off in 20 seconds walking to the cafeteria where we had to eat off of paper 
plates because there was no hot water to wash the real dishes. I'd rather lose 
all my money in the stock market then experience that again; and winter is 
coming, dear boy.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/


 
 
 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/ 
The Final Reckoning: BLACK OCTOBER 2015 The Beginning of The End Dear Investor, 
You awake to shocking news. The investors Washington counts on for loans have 
snapped their wallets shut.


 
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[FairfieldLife] Gay Controversy at the Synod

2015-10-05 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

When a Catholic priest at the Vatican announced that he is gay last week, I 
thought he was a fool, considering that he was wearing the black clothes worn 
by Christian renunciates and that he'd gone through much training and education 
to be in his position.  But today I just realized that his announcement was an 
act of defiance of the Church teachings.  Thus, the opening of the Synod began 
with a loud bang.
 

 Do you think gay priests, from any denomination, should be allowed to lead a 
religious community?
 

 Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy overshadows synod 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html
 
 
 Pope urges Church to move forward as gay controversy... 
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-urges-church-move-forward-gay-issue-overshadows-090757673.html
 Pope Francis on Monday urged the Catholic Church to "move forward" as a review 
of teaching on the family got under way amid unprecedented controversy o...
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Ann I'll give you that approximately 50% of marriages end up in divorce. 
However, those children are more likely to have a court remedy in child support 
orders and even survivor benefits from SS, should one parent die.And at least 
they can be shuffled from one parent to the other or to grandparents etc. The 
*bastard* child, as you put it, has far less.The sociological studies I've 
seen, give a child raised by a single mother, a far greater chance of ending in 
trouble with the law(jail or prison) and never reaching their potential, than 
one raised by both parents. A mother's love rarely makes up for the discipline 
and guidance a male gets from his father or close male relative. Yes, of course 
a mother can be authoritarian but not usually as effective without the father 
to back her up. I saw a story a while back about young male elephants and how 
once they reached puberty, they began rampaging, bullying and being quite 
destructive around the cows and their very young, as well as other species such 
as Rhinoceros, even killing them. The game wardens took a bunch of these young 
upstarts and moved them away from the cows and in among a group of  mature 
adult male elephants. The older males read the younger ones the riot act very 
quickly and put them in the appropriate pecking order, subduing their hormones 
and consequent actions. The cows couldn't do that. A balanced order was 
achieved. Older males have a powerful affect over younger ones. Now consider 
that 70-80% of African/American males grow up in single mother households. 
White and Hispanics are *trying* to catch up to this stat but are less than 
half that. It's no wonder so many young black males end up in trouble
with the law. This was not the case in the early or mid sixties when black 
families were much more stable.
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 8:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Most people do and want to contribute and always have.  And Yes, I may be 
somewhat idealistic but it wasn't that long ago that most people had children 
after they married. Now, times have changed, many, especially among feminist, 
seem to think marriage or even having a man in the house isn't necessary to 
have a family. We have all these wonderful social programs to make up the 
difference. Except a high percentage of those kids grow up troubled without the 
traditional authority figures in a home.
I think you are assuming too much, Mike. About 50% of marriages, whether the 
children were born before or after the nuptials, end in divorce. This means 
that children are then shuffled between two different parents and/or raised by 
at least one step parent or go to live either exclusively with one parent or 
another. Having "bastard" children is hardly the only reason for kids growing 
up "troubled without the traditional authority figures in a home." Of course, 
this lack of "authority" implies women aren't able to assume an authoritarian 
role as a parent, that you need a man. You can imagine what I think of that! LOL



 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: How's Meditating Fairfield, Iowa Doing?

2015-10-05 Thread feste37

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

http://www.communalstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Pleasant-Hill-Program-12-Sept-15.pdf

The glory that's departed.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Heyam dukham anagatam. Avert the danger *before* it comes. You can ask me to 
*avert the danger* of criminal youth by helping the single mother raise her 
child and build her a house. I can take it a step further, the mother and 
father need to *avert the danger* by taking precaution not to bring a child 
into the world that they are not prepared to raise, by simply preventing 
pregnancy by any means necessary. Which is easier, cheaper and most effective? 
My solution requires a little personal responsibility on the part of two 
people. Yours... effort and resources I and others may not have, to be 
sacrificed for two other people's thoughtless  mistakes. Maybe I would like to 
be more helpful to a single mother if I new her personally and her 
circumstances.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 1:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
   
    What?!?  I am always wary of those who speak with much judgment about 
things they have no experience with. 
Curiously, what social programs are you thinking of that make up the difference 
for an absent parent?  I'm talking about the ones that would service the 
"feminist" woman, who deceived the poor, hapless, male into donating his sperm 
or having sex with her, and then kicked him to the curb, thinking to herself, 
"I don't need himor his money..I have a "social program" I can depend 
on to make up the difference!"
Kids do need a support network when growing up.  Have you thought about how you 
could help?  If you can't put yourself out there for "those people" on a 
personal level, perhaps you could work with Habitat for Humanity?  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Most people do and want to contribute and always have.  And Yes, I may be 
somewhat idealistic but it wasn't that long ago that most people had children 
after they married. Now, times have changed, many, especially among feminist, 
seem to think marriage or even having a man in the house isn't necessary to 
have a family. We have all these wonderful social programs to make up the 
difference. Except a high percentage of those kids grow up troubled without the 
traditional authority figures in a home.

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 9:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
 
 Your first point is an idealistic, not a realistic viewpoint.  As long as 
humans procreate and follow their hormonal urges, babies will be born.  That's 
just the way it is.  Planning, higher education and a learned skill prior to 
starting a family is a great idea and I'm all for it, but it's just not going 
to be the case for all.  You can't legislate life, after all.  Should the 
children born of children and the poor not merit the same care and attention 
and value of those born to career couples?  Society has a responsibility for 
its members.  Humans are social creatures.  The idea that there is some large 
population "getting by on charity" by choice is a perpetrated myth - no one 
wants to be in that position.  Most people want to contribute, want to work, 
want to be educated, want to be valued. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A better option is, don't start a family until *you* can provide a complete and 
adequate living for all of those that  *you* are responsible for. That usually 
starts with good planning along with a higher education and/or learned skill. 
If people ever developed the attitude that nobody owes them anything, everybody 
would be better off and a lot of problems could be prevented in the first 
place. Hayam Dhukam Anagatam. Avoid the suffering before it comes! If you are 
prepared to go through life depending on charity to get by, then you should to 
be prepared for the worst and hope for the better. Maharishi used to say 
*Deserve then desire*.BTW, that was supposed to be frying *fries* not *fires*.
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
 
 Not sure what "fry fires" refers to, but it is true that a single parent who 
is the exclusive provider, making $15/hr, cannot afford the cost of daycare.  
This is why support networks are required—education and opportunity—for the 
good of the all.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Well, actually they are a living wage, but just barely for themselves. 
Definitely not meant to raise a family on. Today, someone wants to fry fires 
eight hours a day and raise three or four kids without a second income.  Their 
income alone, isn't enough to pay day care for one or two kids.

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 11:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
 
 

It Was Always Supposed T

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I think you missed the point. There is *no* social program that can make up for 
not having both parents to successfully raise a child.You wouldn't think that 
with an ever expanding welfare system and ever increasing out of wedlock birth 
rate, considering all of the various birth control  that is easily available. 

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 1:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

    What?!?  I am always wary of those who speak with much judgment about 
things they have no experience with. 
Curiously, what social programs are you thinking of that make up the difference 
for an absent parent?  I'm talking about the ones that would service the 
"feminist" woman, who deceived the poor, hapless, male into donating his sperm 
or having sex with her, and then kicked him to the curb, thinking to herself, 
"I don't need himor his money..I have a "social program" I can depend 
on to make up the difference!"
Kids do need a support network when growing up.  Have you thought about how you 
could help?  If you can't put yourself out there for "those people" on a 
personal level, perhaps you could work with Habitat for Humanity?  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Most people do and want to contribute and always have.  And Yes, I may be 
somewhat idealistic but it wasn't that long ago that most people had children 
after they married. Now, times have changed, many, especially among feminist, 
seem to think marriage or even having a man in the house isn't necessary to 
have a family. We have all these wonderful social programs to make up the 
difference. Except a high percentage of those kids grow up troubled without the 
traditional authority figures in a home.

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 9:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

 Your first point is an idealistic, not a realistic viewpoint.  As long as 
humans procreate and follow their hormonal urges, babies will be born.  That's 
just the way it is.  Planning, higher education and a learned skill prior to 
starting a family is a great idea and I'm all for it, but it's just not going 
to be the case for all.  You can't legislate life, after all.  Should the 
children born of children and the poor not merit the same care and attention 
and value of those born to career couples?  Society has a responsibility for 
its members.  Humans are social creatures.  The idea that there is some large 
population "getting by on charity" by choice is a perpetrated myth - no one 
wants to be in that position.  Most people want to contribute, want to work, 
want to be educated, want to be valued. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A better option is, don't start a family until *you* can provide a complete and 
adequate living for all of those that  *you* are responsible for. That usually 
starts with good planning along with a higher education and/or learned skill. 
If people ever developed the attitude that nobody owes them anything, everybody 
would be better off and a lot of problems could be prevented in the first 
place. Hayam Dhukam Anagatam. Avoid the suffering before it comes! If you are 
prepared to go through life depending on charity to get by, then you should to 
be prepared for the worst and hope for the better. Maharishi used to say 
*Deserve then desire*.BTW, that was supposed to be frying *fries* not *fires*.
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

 Not sure what "fry fires" refers to, but it is true that a single parent who 
is the exclusive provider, making $15/hr, cannot afford the cost of daycare.  
This is why support networks are required—education and opportunity—for the 
good of the all.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Well, actually they are a living wage, but just barely for themselves. 
Definitely not meant to raise a family on. Today, someone wants to fry fires 
eight hours a day and raise three or four kids without a second income.  Their 
income alone, isn't enough to pay day care for one or two kids.

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 11:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

It Was Always Supposed To Be A Living Wage
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Geee Emily, neither. These jobs have traditionally been considered entry level 
jobs, where people go to learn skills and get job experience, so

[FairfieldLife] How's Meditating Fairfield, Iowa Doing?

2015-10-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

http://www.communalstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Pleasant-Hill-Program-12-Sept-15.pdf

The glory that's departed.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Black October??

2015-10-05 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


On 10/05/2015 08:18 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We don't have those kinds of winters any more. I'm serious. It's got 
milder. Yes, there are still some very cold days and nights, but they 
soon pass, and we don't get much snow.


I've gotten soft in my old age, Feste. Where I live now the coldest it 
gets is about 30F and that is rare. The average temperature in the 
winter is about 40F with rain and damp so it isn't exactly California 
but it is temperate and I don't need a face mask, ski goggles and moon 
boots to venture outside.


I've also heard from aging Fairfielders who have moving to more 
southerly climes so as to avoid the Fairfield winters.  Gotta love the 
temperate Bay Area though but it's getting too expensive for many people 
to afford.


My last winter in eastern Washington was in January of 1989 when the 
temps got down to below zero.  I had studded tires on as that was the 
only way I could even keep my FWD Subaru on the road.  In early January 
1982 I had to drive from Seattle to Moscow, Idaho for a club gig.  There 
had been a blizzard.  I arrived in fine shape to play the gig that 
evening which didn't happen because the other band members had to turn 
back to get chains to make it over the pass.  My drive was amusing 
through roads with 2-3 foot snow drifts on the side.


Sometimes when Seattle would get bad snow storms I would be among the 
few driving around and most all the cars were Subarus.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Fairfield, Iowa is a great place to weather bad times.  That is, to 
sit them out.
Certainly Sell your belongings now while they are worth something and 
move yourself to Fairfield.
Come in out of the weather and anchor your Self in these deep 
transcendent waters of the cove that is Fairfield, Iowa.   Act fast, 
before it is too late? Did you read about that freighter that 
foundered out in 100 mile an hour weather and 40 foot waves last week 
in that storm off our coasts?  -JaiGuruYou


Heh, the last time I lived in FF the snow was up to my tits, there was 
no heating oil at MIU, ! the wind chill was enough to freeze the tip 
of your nose off in 20 seconds walking to the cafeteria where we had 
to eat off of paper plates because there was no hot water to wash the 
real dishes. I'd rather lose all my money in the stock market then 
experience that again; and winter is coming, dear boy.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Money and Markets 







Money and Markets 

The Final Reckoning: BLACK OCTOBER 2015 The Beginning of The End Dear 
Investor, You awake to shocking news. The investors Washington counts 
on for loans have snapped their wallets shut.


View on www.moneyandmarkets.com 



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Black October??

2015-10-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I'm out in the weather all the time.  It ain't that bad most of the time any 
more.  I agree with Feste. Seems that winters are not like winters that I grew 
up with here in Iowa before climate change set in.  Regardless, you just got to 
have good clothes for it.  I like the changing seasons and weather.  It gives 
us all something to talk about, at least.  "Too hot, too cold, too wet, too 
dry.. Damn hot or damn cold."  and then it changes.   It is life.  The Tao is.  
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We don't have those kinds of winters any more. I'm serious. It's got milder. 
Yes, there are still some very cold days and nights, but they soon pass, and we 
don't get much snow. 
 

 I've gotten soft in my old age, Feste. Where I live now the coldest it gets is 
about 30F and that is rare. The average temperature in the winter is about 40F 
with rain and damp so it isn't exactly California but it is temperate and I 
don't need a face mask, ski goggles and moon boots to venture outside.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Fairfield, Iowa is a great place to weather bad times.  That is, to sit them 
out. Certainly Sell your belongings now while they are worth something and move 
yourself to Fairfield. 
 

 Come in out of the weather and anchor your Self in these deep transcendent 
waters of the cove that is Fairfield, Iowa.   Act fast, before it is too late? 
Did you read about that freighter that foundered out in 100 mile an hour 
weather and 40 foot waves last week in that storm off our coasts?  -JaiGuruYou
 

 Heh, the last time I lived in FF the snow was up to my tits, there was no 
heating oil at MIU, the wind chill was enough to freeze the tip of your nose 
off in 20 seconds walking to the cafeteria where we had to eat off of paper 
plates because there was no hot water to wash the real dishes. I'd rather lose 
all my money in the stock market then experience that again; and winter is 
coming, dear boy.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/


 
 
 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/ 
The Final Reckoning: BLACK OCTOBER 2015 The Beginning of The End Dear Investor, 
You awake to shocking news. The investors Washington counts on for loans have 
snapped their wallets shut.


 
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[FairfieldLife] Interesting Perspective

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I can't say I have ever had to consider the things this writer brings up in 
this article because I have been extremely fortunate and privileged in my life. 
While reading this article I tried to put myself not only in her place but to 
examine my own attitudes about poverty, government assistance and those who 
need it.  I am sorry to say I am guilty of some of the things this woman brings 
up in her article. Hell, I even judge lots of other people checking out at the 
supermarket. The obese woman in front of me, does she really need to be buying 
all that pop, a 20-pk of hamburger buns and three boxes of Sara Lee coffee 
cake? Next, I might glance at the guy behind me stacking the veal cutlets and 
lamb loin onto the conveyor belt and think, "Doesn't he realize how veal is 
raised, why would he eat that, is he ignorant or just doesn't he give a shit?" 
I do this kind of thing quite often, actually. I'm a judgmental ass at times. 
So, when I read this article and see how others convey their distaste for those 
on welfare or make judgments about what someone on government assistance should 
be spending their money on I can't get too smirky about it.
 

 
http://www.alternet.org/economy/please-dont-feed-animals-disturbing-rise-rise-anti-poor-web-cruelty?akid=13546.1968262.AbL67h&rd=1&src=newsletter1043490&t=6
 
http://www.alternet.org/economy/please-dont-feed-animals-disturbing-rise-rise-anti-poor-web-cruelty?akid=13546.1968262.AbL67h&rd=1&src=newsletter1043490&t=6

[FairfieldLife] Re: Black October??

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We don't have those kinds of winters any more. I'm serious. It's got milder. 
Yes, there are still some very cold days and nights, but they soon pass, and we 
don't get much snow. 
 

 I've gotten soft in my old age, Feste. Where I live now the coldest it gets is 
about 30F and that is rare. The average temperature in the winter is about 40F 
with rain and damp so it isn't exactly California but it is temperate and I 
don't need a face mask, ski goggles and moon boots to venture outside.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Fairfield, Iowa is a great place to weather bad times.  That is, to sit them 
out. Certainly Sell your belongings now while they are worth something and move 
yourself to Fairfield. 
 Come in out of the weather and anchor your Self in these deep transcendent 
waters of the cove that is Fairfield, Iowa.   Act fast, before it is too late? 
Did you read about that freighter that foundered out in 100 mile an hour 
weather and 40 foot waves last week in that storm off our coasts?  -JaiGuruYou
 

 Heh, the last time I lived in FF the snow was up to my tits, there was no 
heating oil at MIU, the wind chill was enough to freeze the tip of your nose 
off in 20 seconds walking to the cafeteria where we had to eat off of paper 
plates because there was no hot water to wash the real dishes. I'd rather lose 
all my money in the stock market then experience that again; and winter is 
coming, dear boy.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/


 
 
 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/ 
The Final Reckoning: BLACK OCTOBER 2015 The Beginning of The End Dear Investor, 
You awake to shocking news. The investors Washington counts on for loans have 
snapped their wallets shut.


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Right stuff

2015-10-05 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

John, do you know what "populism" is? I can't imagine why you'd say a Democrat 
(which I am) wouldn't consider Trump a populist. 

 As to how I know he won't be running for president, just the other day I 
checked out the entrails of a bat.
 

 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Judy, 

 If you're a Democrat, you wouldn't consider Trump as a populist.  Also, how do 
you know that Trump isn't going to be running?  Are you using a crystal ball to 
make such prediction?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, it could be which is dependent on who the Democrats will choose for their 
candidate.  IMO, Trump is the worst candidate that the Republicans could choose 
for a candidate.  You see, Trump only appeals to the extreme right of the 
Republicans, which represents a minority group in the entire USA.
 

 Trump isn't really a right-winger, he's a populist, which makes his appeal 
significantly broader.
 

 During the general election, Trump will not appeal to the median group of 
Americans.  As such, Trump will lose the election.
 

 However, he isn't going to lose the election because he's not going to be 
running.
 

 

 

 

 
 

 Also, based on his jyotish chart, his popularity will take a nosedive by the 
end of October 2015.  Why?  Because he will be running the sub-period of Mars, 
the yogakaraka, which is placed in the 12th house, the field of loss.
 

 PS
 

 I'm surprised Bobby Jindal got 6 percent.  He's one of the Republican 
candidates who has been projected to drop out of the race in the near future.  
Also, Ben Carson is probably not going to appeal to the general public either.  
Specifically, his belief in creationism is a red flag about his ability to see 
reality and the best choices for the country.  But the Republicans can make 
that decision for the time being.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Trump is leading the polls in Iowa according to the latest results. Is this 
The Maharishi Effect at work?

 

 Donald Trump = 24 percent
 Dr. Ben Carson = 19 percent
 Carly Fiorina = 8 percent
 Jeb Bush = 7 percent
 Ted Cruz = 6 percent
 
 Marco Rubio = 6 percent
 
 Bobby Jindal = 6 percent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Black October??

2015-10-05 Thread feste37

We don't have those kinds of winters any more. I'm serious. It's got milder. 
Yes, there are still some very cold days and nights, but they soon pass, and we 
don't get much snow. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Fairfield, Iowa is a great place to weather bad times.  That is, to sit them 
out. Certainly Sell your belongings now while they are worth something and move 
yourself to Fairfield. 
 Come in out of the weather and anchor your Self in these deep transcendent 
waters of the cove that is Fairfield, Iowa.   Act fast, before it is too late? 
Did you read about that freighter that foundered out in 100 mile an hour 
weather and 40 foot waves last week in that storm off our coasts?  -JaiGuruYou
 

 Heh, the last time I lived in FF the snow was up to my tits, there was no 
heating oil at MIU, the wind chill was enough to freeze the tip of your nose 
off in 20 seconds walking to the cafeteria where we had to eat off of paper 
plates because there was no hot water to wash the real dishes. I'd rather lose 
all my money in the stock market then experience that again; and winter is 
coming, dear boy.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/


 
 
 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/ 
The Final Reckoning: BLACK OCTOBER 2015 The Beginning of The End Dear Investor, 
You awake to shocking news. The investors Washington counts on for loans have 
snapped their wallets shut.


 
 View on www.moneyandmarkets.com 
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 Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Black October??

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Fairfield, Iowa is a great place to weather bad times.  That is, to sit them 
out. Certainly Sell your belongings now while they are worth something and move 
yourself to Fairfield. 
 Come in out of the weather and anchor your Self in these deep transcendent 
waters of the cove that is Fairfield, Iowa.   Act fast, before it is too late? 
Did you read about that freighter that foundered out in 100 mile an hour 
weather and 40 foot waves last week in that storm off our coasts?  -JaiGuruYou
 

 Heh, the last time I lived in FF the snow was up to my tits, there was no 
heating oil at MIU, the wind chill was enough to freeze the tip of your nose 
off in 20 seconds walking to the cafeteria where we had to eat off of paper 
plates because there was no hot water to wash the real dishes. I'd rather lose 
all my money in the stock market then experience that again; and winter is 
coming, dear boy.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/


 
 
 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/ 
The Final Reckoning: BLACK OCTOBER 2015 The Beginning of The End Dear Investor, 
You awake to shocking news. The investors Washington counts on for loans have 
snapped their wallets shut.


 
 View on www.moneyandmarkets.com 
http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/
 Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right stuff

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Trump's appeal is that being a successful business man,he thinks and others as 
well, think he can create a business climate that will created a lot of jobs. 
He doesn't come off as a wuss either and gives the impression that he would be 
a tough negotiator, domestically and foreign. When we hear politicians say "I 
will fight for you", it's laughable. When you hear Trump say that,his opponents 
tend to take a low profile and fly under the radar. I don't know how far he 
will go, but I do find him amusing.

 

 I think you're partly right here. Trump does come off as the business head 
honcho who won't tolerate any kind of malarky with him around. He's the dude 
and no one is going to best him - in anything. If he can't get something done 
then he'll get the bestest, meanest sons of bitches he can find to get 'er 
done. He's a caricature for me. The American wild west romp 'em, stomp 'em 
pioneer who won't stop at anything to get what he wants or feels he has the 
right to. Build walls, hell yea! Make the other guy pay, you bet. Keep those 
Chinks and Wetbacks from taking advantage of us, you know it! Trump is your 
proverbial 'man's man' and he'll make America strong again so that no one 
laughs at us ever again. The ironic part, the rest of the world hasn't had such 
a good laugh since he decided to run for President.
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 8:48 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Right stuff
 
 
   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, it could be which is dependent on who the Democrats will choose for their 
candidate.  IMO, Trump is the worst candidate that the Republicans could choose 
for a candidate.  You see, Trump only appeals to the extreme right of the 
Republicans, which represents a minority group in the entire USA.
 

 Trump isn't really a right-winger, he's a populist, which makes his appeal 
significantly broader.
 

 During the general election, Trump will not appeal to the median group of 
Americans.  As such, Trump will lose the election.
 

 However, he isn't going to lose the election because he's not going to be 
running.
 

 

 

 

 
 

 Also, based on his jyotish chart, his popularity will take a nosedive by the 
end of October 2015.  Why?  Because he will be running the sub-period of Mars, 
the yogakaraka, which is placed in the 12th house, the field of loss.
 

 PS
 

 I'm surprised Bobby Jindal got 6 percent.  He's one of the Republican 
candidates who has been projected to drop out of the race in the near future.  
Also, Ben Carson is probably not going to appeal to the general public either.  
Specifically, his belief in creationism is a red flag about his ability to see 
reality and the best choices for the country.  But the Republicans can make 
that decision for the time being.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Trump is leading the polls in Iowa according to the latest results. Is this 
The Maharishi Effect at work?

 

 Donald Trump = 24 percent
 Dr. Ben Carson = 19 percent
 Carly Fiorina = 8 percent
 Jeb Bush = 7 percent
 Ted Cruz = 6 percent
 
 Marco Rubio = 6 percent
 
 Bobby Jindal = 6 percent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record

2015-10-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Most people do and want to contribute and always have.  And Yes, I may be 
somewhat idealistic but it wasn't that long ago that most people had children 
after they married. Now, times have changed, many, especially among feminist, 
seem to think marriage or even having a man in the house isn't necessary to 
have a family. We have all these wonderful social programs to make up the 
difference. Except a high percentage of those kids grow up troubled without the 
traditional authority figures in a home.
 

 I think you are assuming too much, Mike. About 50% of marriages, whether the 
children were born before or after the nuptials, end in divorce. This means 
that children are then shuffled between two different parents and/or raised by 
at least one step parent or go to live either exclusively with one parent or 
another. Having "bastard" children is hardly the only reason for kids growing 
up "troubled without the traditional authority figures in a home." Of course, 
this lack of "authority" implies women aren't able to assume an authoritarian 
role as a parent, that you need a man. You can imagine what I think of that! LOL

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance Of Group Meditation

2015-10-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

..Group meditations strengthen the individuals. When you're in meditation with 
other devotees you don't know how much you help one another. It gives you 
strength. There is a vibration that is created that strengthens, and supports, 
and encourages each one. So when you sit to meditate just remember this.
 —Sri Daya Mata on the SRF tape Karma Yoga
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Group meetings to practice the techniques of meditation are vitally important. 
Group meetings strengthen the individual Self-realization that one has acquired 
in private at home.  -Paramahansa Yogananda
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Group meditation helps to disperse the dark clouds of man's obliviousness to 
the Sun of All Life, that its warm, liberating rays may burst forth in his 
soul.  
 -Self-Realization Fellowship in Meeting For Group Meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Black October??

2015-10-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Fairfield, Iowa is a great place to weather bad times.  That is, to sit them 
out. Certainly Sell your belongings now while they are worth something and move 
yourself to Fairfield. 
 Come in out of the weather and anchor your Self in these deep transcendent 
waters of the cove that is Fairfield, Iowa.   Act fast, before it is too late? 
Did you read about that freighter that foundered out in 100 mile an hour 
weather and 40 foot waves last week in that storm off our coasts?  -JaiGuruYou
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/


 
 
 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/ 
The Final Reckoning: BLACK OCTOBER 2015 The Beginning of The End Dear Investor, 
You awake to shocking news. The investors Washington counts on for loans have 
snapped their wallets shut.


 
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[FairfieldLife] Black October??

2015-10-05 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]

Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/


 
 
 Money and Markets http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/reports/RWR/blackoctober/lp2/ 
The Final Reckoning: BLACK OCTOBER 2015 The Beginning of The End Dear Investor, 
You awake to shocking news. The investors Washington counts on for loans have 
snapped their wallets shut. 
 
 
 
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