[FairfieldLife] Re: the quality of research on TM

2017-10-23 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It's important to look deeper.  Here is the reality of one of the studies.  
What is claimed as "published" was apparently, from what I could find, a 
one-page pdf of the study that they hoped to have published and had published 
online ahead of time.   

 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryhusten/2011/06/27/archives-decides-at-last-minute-not-to-publish-a-scheduled-paper/#72ab14a1669d
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryhusten/2011/06/27/archives-decides-at-last-minute-not-to-publish-a-scheduled-paper/#72ab14a1669d
 

 Note that the majority of actual references to articles published (at bottom 
of page linked to) are over 30 years old and from the 70's and 80's—a very 
different time.  

 

 I certainly don't disagree that TM is good for stress relief and the myriad of 
associated illnesses. But, of course, one doesn't need research to register 
personal benefits. I am for anything that changes anyone's life for the better. 
 And, I never weigh in on it's efficacy for achieving "enlightenment" and other 
examples of living in harmony with the universe and all it's realms and 
"planes."  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/research.html#video=10XeslMRbiw 
https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/research.html#video=10XeslMRbiw 




 
  


 
 

 

 

  
 

 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryhusten/2011/06/27/archives-decides-at-last-minute-not-to-publish-a-scheduled-paper/#72ab14a1669d
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larryhusten/2011/06/27/archives-decides-at-last-minute-not-to-publish-a-scheduled-paper/#72ab14a1669d
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/research.html#video=10XeslMRbiw 
https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/research.html#video=10XeslMRbiw 




 
  





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[FairfieldLife] Re: the quality of research on TM

2017-10-23 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The important point is: are more people practicing TM due to the research?  I'd 
bet that among the newcomers in the US, not a single new TM practitioner 
started due to the research.
 I'd also wager that nobody on this forum that practices TM started because of 
the research.
 More likely, it was word of mouth as a catalyst.
 The research is therefore becoming irrelevant.  Besides, its of very low 
quality.
 

 



[FairfieldLife] the quality of research on TM

2017-10-23 Thread srijau
https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/research.html#video=10XeslMRbiw 
https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/research.html#video=10XeslMRbiw 



[FairfieldLife] Re: [twitter]TM and smoking!

2017-10-23 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"FACT: 50% of smokers quit smoking 2 years into #TranscendentalMeditation 
https://twitter.com/hashtag/TranscendentalMeditation?src=hash. That's 3 x 
higher quit rate than with therapy." 

 H.from Wikipedia
 

 In the U.S., for example, the rate of unassisted quitting fell from 91.8% in 
1986 to 52.1% during 2006 to 2009.[16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_cessation#cite_note-ReferenceA-16 The 
most frequent unassisted methods were "cold turkey 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_turkey";, a term that has been used to mean 
either unassisted quitting or abrupt quitting [16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_cessation#cite_note-ReferenceA-16 and 
"gradually decreased number" of cigarettes, or "cigarette reduction".[17] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_cessation#cite_note-17

 

 The tweet is meaningless without understanding the details.  Fifty percent of 
all smokers?  By age?  By gender?  How is "quit rate" defined?  What kind of 
therapy are we talking about?  Group?  Nicotine replacement?  Other?
 

 I'll stop here and leave you guys to it.  For those that do, I have no idea 
how you swallow this stuff without questioningI'm guessing it takes a TM 
Village. :)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 

 https://twitter.com/TMhome_com/status/918833955750547460 
https://twitter.com/TMhome_com/status/918833955750547460

 

 

 





[FairfieldLife] [twitter]TM and smoking!

2017-10-23 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]


 https://twitter.com/TMhome_com/status/918833955750547460 
https://twitter.com/TMhome_com/status/918833955750547460

 

 

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: is TM a cult?

2017-10-23 Thread rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
When I was on the ayurveda table and getting a basti for the first time the 
idea" is this a cult" came to mind.

[FairfieldLife] Re: is TM a cult?

2017-10-23 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And another correction: 

 In this case, it would seem that the TM org and/or MMY followers would qualify 
as part of a "religious movement" with Melton.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 About J. Gordon Melton's work as a cult apologist (according to this article): 

 http://www.apologeticsindex.org/m06.html 
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/m06.html
 

 His views are that organizations such as Scientology, Children of God, 
Jonestown, etc. are not cults but rather "new religious movements" or in 
another interview I read with him personally "minority religions."  
 

 In this case, it would seem that the TM org would qualify as a "religion" with 
Melton.  As an aside, I think this is the basis for how the chanting pundits 
are allowed into the U.S.—under the category of "religious workers."  FFL had a 
long discussion on this some time ago (when the the pundits organized a 
protest).  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Correction:  The definition David Orme-Johnson has adopted from J. Gordon 
Melton (his own personal definition). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From your link:
 

 The word “cult” has many meanings, but in recent decades it has often been 
used with a negative connotation to point out a group that others would like to 
see removed from society. This use of the term is expressed by the prominent 
religious scholar J. Gordon Melton:
 

 "My working definition of a cult is a group that you don't like, and I say 
that somewhat facetiously, but at the same time, in fact, that is my working 
definition of a cult. It is a group that somebody doesn't like. It is a 
derogatory term, and I have never seen it redeemed from the derogatory 
connotations that it picked up in the sociological literature in the 1930s." 
(1).
 

 Yes, in society today, mostly a pejorative term.  
 

 The dictionary defines the word more objectively and comprehensively.  Using 
David Orme-Johnson's definition of "It is a group that somebody doesn't like," 
the TM org could easily be called a cult by those who don't like it!  So could 
so many other things, no?  That definition is his own personal definition and 
not one supported by the dictionary.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm 
http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm

 








 
  




 
  



[FairfieldLife] Re: is TM a cult?

2017-10-23 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
About J. Gordon Melton's work as a cult apologist (according to this article): 

 http://www.apologeticsindex.org/m06.html 
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/m06.html
 

 His views are that organizations such as Scientology, Children of God, 
Jonestown, etc. are not cults but rather "new religious movements" or in 
another interview I read with him personally "minority religions."  
 

 In this case, it would seem that the TM org would qualify as a "religion" with 
Melton.  As an aside, I think this is the basis for how the chanting pundits 
are allowed into the U.S.—under the category of "religious workers."  FFL had a 
long discussion on this some time ago (when the the pundits organized a 
protest).  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Correction:  The definition David Orme-Johnson has adopted from J. Gordon 
Melton (his own personal definition). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From your link:
 

 The word “cult” has many meanings, but in recent decades it has often been 
used with a negative connotation to point out a group that others would like to 
see removed from society. This use of the term is expressed by the prominent 
religious scholar J. Gordon Melton:
 

 "My working definition of a cult is a group that you don't like, and I say 
that somewhat facetiously, but at the same time, in fact, that is my working 
definition of a cult. It is a group that somebody doesn't like. It is a 
derogatory term, and I have never seen it redeemed from the derogatory 
connotations that it picked up in the sociological literature in the 1930s." 
(1).
 

 Yes, in society today, mostly a pejorative term.  
 

 The dictionary defines the word more objectively and comprehensively.  Using 
David Orme-Johnson's definition of "It is a group that somebody doesn't like," 
the TM org could easily be called a cult by those who don't like it!  So could 
so many other things, no?  That definition is his own personal definition and 
not one supported by the dictionary.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm 
http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm

 








 
  



[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Satan Create Catholicism?

2017-10-23 Thread ultrarishi
Having worked in the corporate world for decades, I came to realize that 
corporations function much like cults as well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: is TM a cult?

2017-10-23 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Correction:  The definition David Orme-Johnson has adopted from J. Gordon 
Melton (his own personal definition). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From your link:
 

 The word “cult” has many meanings, but in recent decades it has often been 
used with a negative connotation to point out a group that others would like to 
see removed from society. This use of the term is expressed by the prominent 
religious scholar J. Gordon Melton:
 

 "My working definition of a cult is a group that you don't like, and I say 
that somewhat facetiously, but at the same time, in fact, that is my working 
definition of a cult. It is a group that somebody doesn't like. It is a 
derogatory term, and I have never seen it redeemed from the derogatory 
connotations that it picked up in the sociological literature in the 1930s." 
(1).
 

 Yes, in society today, mostly a pejorative term.  
 

 The dictionary defines the word more objectively and comprehensively.  Using 
David Orme-Johnson's definition of "It is a group that somebody doesn't like," 
the TM org could easily be called a cult by those who don't like it!  So could 
so many other things, no?  That definition is his own personal definition and 
not one supported by the dictionary.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm 
http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm

 







[FairfieldLife] Re: is TM a cult?

2017-10-23 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From your link:
 

 The word “cult” has many meanings, but in recent decades it has often been 
used with a negative connotation to point out a group that others would like to 
see removed from society. This use of the term is expressed by the prominent 
religious scholar J. Gordon Melton:
 

 "My working definition of a cult is a group that you don't like, and I say 
that somewhat facetiously, but at the same time, in fact, that is my working 
definition of a cult. It is a group that somebody doesn't like. It is a 
derogatory term, and I have never seen it redeemed from the derogatory 
connotations that it picked up in the sociological literature in the 1930s." 
(1).
 

 Yes, in society today, mostly a pejorative term.  
 

 The dictionary defines the word more objectively and comprehensively.  Using 
David Orme-Johnson's definition of "It is a group that somebody doesn't like," 
the TM org could easily be called a cult by those who don't like it!  So could 
so many other things, no?  That definition is his own personal definition and 
not one supported by the dictionary.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm 
http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm

 





[FairfieldLife] is TM a cult?

2017-10-23 Thread srijau
http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm 
http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm

 



[FairfieldLife] Well: aho bata, bala-bharata!

2017-10-23 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Force India (bala-bharata??) 6th and 8th in Formula 1 US race:
 

 
https://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2017/races/975/united-states/race-result.html
 
https://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2017/races/975/united-states/race-result.html