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From: "rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]"
Date:04/13/2015 9:23 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness, Consciousness, Stillness
Thanks Mike, for changing the subject - awareness, consciousness and stillness
seem to be complicated for some of the other informants. LoL!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Ten generations back, Ambrose Dixon came to James Virginia, about 1640.
Roger Williams, my infamous ancestor, was born in England, where he had
graduated from Cambridge, and he had become a cleric in the Church of England.
According to what I've read, Roger Williams founded Rhode Island and the
Baptist Church and became its first citizen and pastor.
He had become a respected minister at Salem, Massachusetts, and for a short
time became a Fundamentalist, and then announced that, like the Pilgrims, he
was in fact a Separatist, urging a complete separation between Church and
State.
It is further recorded that he endorsed full religious toleration. Due to
Roger's outspoken views concerning these and other matters, he was deported
back to England, but before he was chained up "...he fled into the wilderness
to live with the Indians. He founded Providence Plantation in 1636."
So much for the facts.
If anything, the truth is exactly the opposite. Roger Williams was likely one
of the most intolerant men ever to set foot in this country. He held to an
extreme "separatism" which led him eventually to renounce every Christian
church in the world as apostate. Go figure.
He left London England, seeking religious freedom because he was a Quaker. He
later left Virginia because he and his Quaker brothers felt discriminated
against and resettled in Maryland where Lord Baltimore granted him land and
refuge. Somewhere down the line, the Dixons joined Church of Christ in
Kentucky. I guess I'm the first generation to return to seeking the Kingdom
within via transcendental awareness.
From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 10:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness, Consciousness, Stillness
I was up in Rochester, Mn. last week and looked to see if there was a group
meditation there. The Quakers there are old-style Hicksite Friends simply
sitting in awareness as no-mantra-no-thought stillness. Like the Fairfield
Quaker meeting is deeply transcendent meditative that way. Transcendent, really
a good activated field effect of pure consciousness without the cultural veneer
of TM .
Who We Are
Who We Are
We welcome you to our meeting for worship in the confident expectation that
both members and visitors will benefit from a mutual search for the truth which
...
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Empty, Awareness, pure consciousness. The list of 'correct meditation' in the
teaching also includes “no-mantra, no thought”. Stillness.
Though technically you are right that thinking the mantra is not implicitly
transcendental consciousness, it is just consciousness as you've defined it by
reference. Though as one gets really good at sitting with stillness then this
transcendental meditative consciousness becomes vipassanaic-like in practice.
Stillness and even watching thoughts emerge.
The real TM tru-believer on hearing that would be horrified though asserting
that as mindfulness, as in sitting still is comtemplative and or concentrative
if you sit with it and hence no good by TM standard. ..As our TM Alpha EEG
studies demonstrate that TM is superior. Come back to the mantra! Come back!
Re-introduce the mantra and all costs! Faintly. Easily. Don't just sit there!
However, I feel you are on to something in experience with your analysis of
this. Sit with it some more. JaiGuruYou, -Buck in Meditative Fairfield, Iowa
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
About Consciousness versus Awareness:
One of the characteristics of TM teachings has always been the conflation of
two terms - consciousness and awareness. The result is that we liberally use
the term “pure consciousness” or occasionally “pure awareness” in our tm-speak.
These terms are ways that we conceptually identify a reality that is neither
waking, dreaming or sleeping. Usually we call it “the forth state” or
“transcendental consciousness”.
Supposedly, this terminology describes an “experience” of “transcendental
consciousness”. It is described as 1.) remaining “awake inside in a state
where knower, knowing and known object are united”. Another way of describing
it is 2.) “dissolving the process of experience into the experiencer –thus
leaving the experiencer awake and alone within their own nature.” Based upon
such descriptions, this terminology then attempts to translate and
