Hey Jim! Many thanks, fun dialogue! My * * * responses below...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
Hi Rory! responses below:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
Right, Jim!
This is indeed a forum focusing on topics of interest to seekers and
finders of truth and liberation. It's not primarily about movies or food or
politics, though those indeed are fair game, as is everything else.
**Yes of course.
Since this is primarily a forum about truth and liberation, I will *probably*
continue to focus on sharing those aspects of truth and liberation I find
most interesting at the moment. Sometimes that may look like lecturing; if so
and that causes you pain, may I suggest that you integrate (become aware of)
your inner lecturer; or if you don't like my thoughts, please feel free not
to read them.
**What are you talking about?
* * * This post was primarily intended for those of Us who might feel they have
a problem with one of Us being angry, boring, pedantic, nauseating, a liar,
ignorant, suffering, etc. etc., and would like to change that other's
behavior so that *they* will feel more comfortable -- the classic stance of the
suffering addict in Us :-)
It looks to me as if we're *all* constantly jabbering away at our own
reflections -- I find that incredibly humorous, personally, but it doesn't
stop me from doing it!
**Absolutely! One of my favorite and most challenging activities!
Sadness, boredom, anger, shame, guilt, and even ignorance itself are all in
the perceiver, the one who feels the sadness, boredom, anger, and so on.
They are not the fault of the world or anyone out there -- they just
ARE, and they always will be; they are eternal parts of Us. I find
personally that they are not a problem if we do not resist them, but simply
allow them to BE wherever
they wish to BE within our body.
**Duality along with Dharma lovingly co-exists with Unity. Duality within
Unity, relaxing into a greater Unity that encompasses both - perhaps that is
Brahman? I don't know what you would call it.
* * * I don't know what to call it either, except Us :-)
**Duality and Unity, as a subset of a greater whole, each vying for the
greatest love and attention from us, simultaneously. Always inclusive vs.
exclusive. Like a fractal, continually dividing itself into an ever
expanding, unified wholeness.
* * * Yes!
**Even the fiercest emotions are experienced in that light, and are
absolutely loved. I think we are saying the same thing - lol.
* * * YES! Absolutely! :-D
As Blu pointed out, sometimes that may pop us out of the arena of suffering
into a more spacious one, so we see the larger context -- but sometimes it
may pop us deeper into the arena, so that we find the suffering is
actually made up of particles of bliss, or love, or light. Either way,
deeper into Purusha/Shiva or Prakrit/Shakti, we have broken the deadlock of
bondage or identification which was causing the suffering.
**deeper into Purusha/Shiva or Prakrit/Shakti - what is the relationship to
Vishnu here, please?
* * * What is the relationship to Vishnu? Beats me. I was simply using a
Spirit-Matter (or -Body) duality, with the I AM as Soul in the middle of the
two. We could say that these are the three metagunas, with Shiva being Spirit
or infinite expansion into Ecstasy, and Vishnu/Indra being Matter or infinite
contraction into Love, and Brahma being the I AM or the consciousness-balance
of Light, but it's just a model. Each end wraps into and embraces the other, if
we go far enough into infinity in any direction. None of it is really Us,
anyway, as we are simply the Great Mystery, it's only a perpective rendering of
our body-of-manifestation from one point of view :-)
Thanks :-)
* * * My pleasure! :-)
