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Now, FrensZone is the latgt; treated them as what they were acting like -- wimps.
> 
> Any woman who falls back on the "I/She didn't succeed
> because of misogyny" whine is the counterpart of the
> guy who strikes out and blames it on the "wrong bat,"
> or the fact that the other team jeered at the batter.
> They're trying to blame their own failure (which is
> because they didn't try hard enough or didn't want
> what they were striving for hard enough) on others.
> 
> > Want to change attitudes about domestic violence?  Don't 
> > make a guy getting hit in the nuts a punchline for women 
> > in popular culture. Walk the talk.
> 
> I'll limit it to the latter statement -- walk the talk.
> 
> Everything else is whining. Excuses are just excuses,
> no matter who makes them. Manufactured outrage may
> play well in the press, but it's Just Another Excuse,
> offered up by those who have never walked the talk.
> 
> > Men are wired to wonder if we would like to sleep with 
> > Sara Palin and every other women we meet.  
> 
> I must be broken. :-) I've never for a moment consid-
> ered her fuckable. Or any of the whiny faux feminists
> I've ever met. 
> 
> Real feminists. Real fuckable. 
> 
> > Our biology is not lower than your own, it is just 
> > different.  We don't have to act like an ass about it 
> > in your presence, but don't be surprised if you hear 
> > us talking about some woman's tits who you think is 
> > scary important and above discussing her tits.  
> 
> Worse, don't PRETEND to be surprised. That's 
> what's really going on.
> 
> > We don't separate the world that way.  We can take you
> > seriously and still want to fuck you, or not want to 
> > fuck you.  But we always know.
> 
> And we always know when your faux outrage is faux. 
> And when it is, NOTHING YOU COULD EVER DO
> could get us to take you seriously.
>

But you are still using the male view of all this as the yardstick of what is 
"normal" and 
right.  It may be that, in general, women are different.  Or rather, that men 
are different!!  
Outrage may not be faux, it is more likely that most men just don't get it.

  And I think it very likely that those ultra successful women who never whine 
or talk about 
inequality are wired differently than your average woman  - maybe more like a 
man - 
especially since success itself changes the brain and hormones and results in 
feelings of 
power, entitlement, and dominance in most people.  Studies in one of the apes 
show just 
that when a shift in status within the group occurs.  In addition, most of us, 
male or 
female but especially male, justify our success, once achieved.  We think it 
was "something 
anyone could do if they  just ______________(fill in the blank) as I did."  

I too know a few incredibly successful women, and all have thought the entire 
feminist 
thing a waste of their time since they "made it" without that support.  But 
that does not 
mean most women have not benefitted.  It sounds as if Rama was right, at a 
certain point 
you need to get past it, but come on - real change, not only of rules but of 
how people 
really feel, takes a few generations.  So I think women are entitled to whine 
sometimes 
cause things are not fair, and it gets tiring, and sure we could be super 
successful if we 
really tried but sometimes really trying is tiring.  Especially if children 
arrive and the 
incredible maternal hormones kick in and ypu fluctuate between nurturing and 
the rough 
and tumble of making money.  I did not realize how pervasive this whole thing 
was until I 
read Egalia's Daughters, a Satire of the Sexes, by Gerd Brantenberg (translated 
from 
Norwegian) a few years ago. I had never read any feminist literature, but it 
was an eye 
opener.  Have you seen the new series Mad Men at all?  It seems amazing, but 
there is a 
great deal of truth in it regarding women - I actually remember those days in 
the 60's 
when I had a few summer jobs in offices while in hgihg school and college.  We 
have come 
a long way.........

I think your usual stance re Judy is causing you to take this position.  It has 
validity but 
seems harsh, but then that is my female point of view:)



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